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The beast has arrived.
I'm already on page nine, will be continuing my catch-up.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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That seems to be the popular consensus.In post 239, mattblackguy wrote:mattblackguy - Town
GAYreenHamster - Town
Shade - Town
rakkar - Mafia
schadd_- Town
Raskolnikov (SE) - Town
ThinkBig (SE) - Mafia
gigabyteTroubadour (SE) - Town
Creature (IC) - Town
So did we win?
Why are your reads the popular consensus?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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That's nice and all, but what has everyone else besides TB done to convince you they're town?In post 240, mattblackguy wrote:By the way, my previous post was 100% serious. I really do believe Rakkar, and ThinkBig are the mafia. Rakkar hasn't contributed anything to the game. He hasn't posted any opinions on anything that has gone on in this game so far, and hasn't posted any of his thoughts about the other players (who he thinks is town, who he thinks is scum etc.) I will not remove my vote from Rakkar unless he actually contributes something.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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WatIn post 299, Raskolnikov wrote:1. mattblackguy
2. GAYreenHamster
3. Shade
4. rakkar
5. schadd_
6. Raskolnikov (SE)
7. ThinkBig (SE)
8. gigabyteTroubadour (SE)
9. Creature (IC)“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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That's a deflection, not an answer. When you posted those reads, they were the popular consensus.In post 536, mattblackguy wrote:
Not the popular consensus anymore. Ever since Cass has come in the town seems a little more split. Before we were basically circle jerking, reading each other as town, and reading the lurkers as scum. I'm glad we moved away from that, and think we're in a better state now.In post 534, -Grey- wrote:Why are your reads the popular consensus?
Why?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Fair enough.In post 537, mattblackguy wrote:
It was more so since I thought rakkar, and thinkbig was scum that everyone else had to be town (because of the rolelist). My thinking was pretty naive and noobess now looking back at it in hindsight. Honestly this is my first game, and I'm still trying to figure things out.In post 535, -Grey- wrote:That's nice and all, but what has everyone else besides TB done to convince you they're town?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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If I saw what I thought I saw IRT Creature, that was really, really stupid.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Ew.In post 367, mattblackguy wrote:Since Rakkar is most likely getting replaced later today I'll just drop my vote on him now, and see what the new person says.
Not a fan.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Hypocrite, thy name is matt.In post 369, mattblackguy wrote:Lastly it does seem to me that Gayreen is just following whatever you(Giga) say in an attempt to gain a town read from you.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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schadd_ and Rask, I might work with you on.In post 400, cassielle wrote:wrapping it up relatively quicklike. i got strong scumdar pings on gbT, schadd_ and rask.
Gigs, nowai.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Seriously? How is that even a concern?In post 431, Creature wrote:This looks really reckless for scum, but what bothers me is that he took 13 mins to make post 240.
What's your opinion?
I'm not overly keen on his slot, but that's hella nitpicky.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Not seeing Gigs in this list?In post 455, cassielle wrote:actually, excluding gbT id like a condensed prelim reads list from you creature, just for compare and contrast purposes. ill do the same:
TOWNIEST
creature
gayreen
tb
mbg
shade
schadd_
rask
SCUMMIEST
and if you could your preferred scumteam pairings.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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First impressions:
{Creature}
{Casserole, Gigs}
{schadd_}
{ThinkBig, Shade}
{matt, Rask}
Not yet ready to put down a vote, will probably do that tomorrow.
Prepare yourselves for the upcoming onslaught.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 472, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: Shade
Probably should've joined this wagon when it originally happened.
What happened to this vote?In post 286, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: rakkar
this is most likely the scum.
Holding onto the tell for now but it's a good one, tried and true.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In either of the scenarios you're considering, I'm the common denominator in the scumteam.In post 468, Raskolnikov wrote:Gayreen
Shade
Thinkbig
{Thinkbig, Gayreen}
{Shade, Gayreen}
Thinkbig/shade prob not
Not quite convincing, potentially wrong on someone
Why are you voting Shade instead of me?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I don't give them a clean slate, if that's what you're asking.In post 573, Raskolnikov wrote:
How do you treat replacements -grey- ?In post 571, -Grey- wrote:
Yeah, right.In post 569, Raskolnikov wrote:Cass replaced rakkar.
Enough said.
That said, I read Cass as town anyway.
I was agreeing with your post, if you couldn't tell.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Will obviously you're potentially wrong on someone, but it's rather difficult to operate under the assumption you aren't right.In post 575, Raskolnikov wrote:re: 570
Not quite convincing, potentially wrong on someone
That was the emphasis in that post. The point, the conclusion, of it. If on the other hand it all looked sunshine and daisies I might've just followed it on blind faith but is that what it looked like?Not quite convincing, potentially wrong on someone
Though other townreads disagreeing with me there too was a part of it as well, perhaps you missed the context via just ISOing?
If your reads were genuine, I believe you would have voted me with the intention of finding my partner if I flipped red.
Putting me as a possible partner with two different players, them voting one of those other players instead of me in a later post reads fabricated as fuck.
VOTE: Rask
L-1“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Caution tell.In post 580, mattblackguy wrote:UNVOTE: Rask
I don't want the day to end just yet. There's still plenty to talk about.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Did you see how fast mbg unvoted when I put Rask to L-1?In post 584, cassielle wrote:rask is THE SEVENTH CIRCLE now. mbg is scumlean, tb and shade are my prefered scumbuddies for rask.scum busses and tb flaked quick when the pressure ratcheted, and shades been distant but rask has been mostly ignoring shade until people started staring his way.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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And what do you think would happen in the event of a quick-hammer?In post 590, mattblackguy wrote:
We have 8 days left in the day, and I don't want to end it yet. With Rask at L-1 someone can just come and quickhammer him which I want to avoid for now.In post 586, -Grey- wrote:Did you see how fast mbg unvoted when I put Rask to L-1?
That's right, Sherlock, even bad things teach us something.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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#top“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Already stated.
Nobody has spoken up to confirm what Rask was saying about the gamestate in their defense, so I'm not giving it much credence.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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If she said no, would you stop trying to find/push scum?In post 608, Raskolnikov wrote:Are you 100% saying you're not going to reconsider trying to lynch me today?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I've given him another read.In post 625, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Grey, can you go a bit more into your scumread on him?
He addressed my concerns about him fairly well, the only thing I really don't like about him right now is where he throws shade over my questioning of him when I was obviously in a hurry to get caught up with the rest of the game.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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VOTE: ThinkBig
I'm not lynching a PR claim d1. They will be sorted through natural events.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I'm not an alt. -_-In post 635, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i mean
if grey is who i think he is (if he is an alt i'm keeping him under wraps sorry)
i think it's totally within his scumrange to do that“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Oh shush, Giggles.In post 639, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:that's what they all say ♡♡“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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That in itself is a scumtell.In post 643, cassielle wrote:theres also the fact that he clammed up when he saw a (fake) l-1 before. i want him to talk, not curl up and die“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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If you have any interest in me responding to your post about me, redo it with post tags because I'm not wading through this site without links on my phone.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: 534: FIRST post worth commenting on??? commenting on MBG's list at 239, not saying a word about those weird ass claims and such prior? arguably this is NAI leaning town but im suspicious af about there being nothing to comment on from 135 to 160-ish just for example. #535 still leaning on MBG but it is valid and in order here.
Your primary objection in block of text seems to be that I didn't comment on content within the first nine pages, which I had already stated that I read before actually getting my role pm. Add to that the fact I believe the beginning of d1 is bullshit in general for all games.
HE LISTED HIMSELF AS LYNCHABLE YOU FUCKING CLOWN
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: 539 is vaguely towny. leans on mbg for more info. can someone tell me what they think about the info hes pressing for here? is there even a point to asking that in that post?
Reads that match the popular consensus are scummy. It's not rocket surgery why I'd pressure that.
You notice that "kumbaya" atmosphere is gone? That's called progress because it means people have to justify their reads instead of "ommm this person is town because sheep ommm"“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: #544 is contentless expression of dislike toward SOMETHING to do with creature. what? who knows!
I totally disliked what Creature posted because it was stupid of him to post.
Unless you think I'm pushing him as scum for what I disliked (hint: I'm not, which you could tell if you were paying as much attention to my posts as you are claiming), I don't see why you would want me to expand on that.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: #547 is vaguely scummy imo -- expresses disgust with mbg pulling vote off player to be replaced who had prior contributed literally almost nothing. its giving the newcomer a fair chance to make their name lol, that is the correct motorcycle when lurkers replace out (obv diff players are a diff story)
Resetting a read on someone simply because they replace out is bad.
I absolutely agree with this.In post 14, mastina wrote:Clean slates are the worst possible thing to do.
There's a reason that if a player is being run up and then needs to be replaced, most of the time,the town lynches the slot.
They're not gonna bother with the shit a replacement will give, since the replacement won't do anything to change people's minds.
Are you starting to feel stupid with your bullshit push yet?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I defended nothing, I pointed out hypocrisyand Matt admitted to it.
That's just blatant misrep.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: #552 seems to be a scumslip? town can easily see the paranoia that would lead to #431, no one else questioned it, even mbg seemed to take it in stride, treat it as fair.
This is garbage, because building reads around timestamps is stupid. You don't know wtf is going on in meatworld that affects posting times, and it's not like everybody has nothing to do but sit around and post.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: #554 seems to also imply scumminess -- scum skim, town deep-reads. on a skim my list there is bad. the shallowest of deep-reads reveals i imply that is to be expected. context in thread also does.
I was rushing to catch up with the thread and throwing out comments as I had them.
Feel free to metadive me to confirm, that's how I always catch up.
Hell, post a single game where I'm "deep reading" as either alignment and I'll vote myself.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: #568 reads as completely unaware of the thread. rakkar DID NOT POST. even just clicking the activity overview will tell you exactly what changed there lol. this is a clear scumslip from where im standing.
Holy shit, a guy that is trying to take in a couple dozen pages of information all at once missed something?
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: #570 i can practically hear "target locked." thats a bit of hindsight but jfc
See this is just bullshit shade throwing that falls apart when you actually follow the link you're referring to, and that's why I wanted those posts linked.
VOTE: Casserole
Rask thought I was likely scum with two different people. If was a genuine read, Why would he want to push either of those two over me when lynching me is objectively more likely to hit scum?
It didn't make sense, and this right here just shows that you're throwing shit against the wall and hoping people don't actually pay attention.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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[/size]In post 678, cassielle wrote: #571 dismisses a valid line of reasoning. in fact, a line of reasoning used by mbg and accepted by grey at that point as well! see #541In post 576, -Grey- wrote:
I don't give them a clean slate, if that's what you're asking.In post 573, Raskolnikov wrote:
How do you treat replacements -grey- ?In post 571, -Grey- wrote:
Yeah, right.In post 569, Raskolnikov wrote:Cass replaced rakkar.
Enough said.
That said, I read Cass as town anyway.
I was agreeing with your post, if you couldn't tell.
Who's the one skimming now, Casserole? But it's town if you do it right?
More bullshit misrep.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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[/size]In post 720, -Grey- wrote:In post 678, cassielle wrote: #571 dismisses a valid line of reasoning. in fact, a line of reasoning used by mbg and accepted by grey at that point as well! see #541In post 576, -Grey- wrote:
I don't give them a clean slate, if that's what you're asking.In post 573, Raskolnikov wrote:
How do you treat replacements -grey- ?In post 571, -Grey- wrote:
Yeah, right.In post 569, Raskolnikov wrote:Cass replaced rakkar.
Enough said.
That said, I read Cass as town anyway.
I was agreeing with your post, if you couldn't tell.
Who's the one skimming now, Casserole? But it's town if you do it right?
More bullshit misrep.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 678, cassielle wrote: #578 is CONVINCING REASONING. the speed at which it came out of fuckin nowhere was not. i recall feeling this way when i first saw it, but i was (and to a slightly reduced degree, am!) so convinced of rask flipping red that i just sat on it (see my feelings on mbg as poss. scumteam member in #604)
Good post. MUST BE SCUM!
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In post 699, cassielle wrote: #582 casts shade but doesnt claim towntell or scumtell, just "tell". mbg's noob, implies NOOBtell to me. #582 feels light anti-town to me -- either greys ignored everything up to this point while reading through or hes scumteam, otherwise hed realize hes probably seeing mbg's repeatedly stated inexperience with mafia lol
Caution tell is a textbook scumtell, and the fact Matt is inexperienced MAKES IT MORE likely to be valid, NOT LESS, because he isn't likely to know about it and Scum are naturally cautious.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Not contentless at all. I was pointing out Matt being cautious scum.In post 699, cassielle wrote: #586 is further contentless shade casting on mbg. while i agree its indicative of something, i did not and do not agree its enough to even FoS mbg rn, we need to focus on our bigger scumbags. its also an ULTRA-easy read, which is why i was dismissing peoples concerns with gayreen changing mind on the tb l-1 -- thats a copout read, it stands out, grabs attention and means nothing. scum can use it to pretend they have real opinions
Noobscum Matt and Casserole partner makes a lot of sense, too.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 699, cassielle wrote: #592 is stating the obvious in a dickish manner. arguably nai but im leaning scum with it combined with the rest.
Hi. I'm Grey. I'm an asshole that find scum by being an asshole. Ask Giggles.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 699, cassielle wrote: #609 feels like its pushing for an immediate lynch. its trying to corner rask into a "well thats scum claim" position. i even gave rask an out from that in 610 because W T F. i dont mind that sort of play but we have A FULL WEEK OF DAYTIME, you corner someone that way on the last day of day phase rofl you dont do that shit midway through, wtf??? scum af here
Wrong. Once you find scum, you lynch scum. Deadline is irrelevant. Putting off the Lynch simply because of the deadline only serves to give scum extra time to wiggle out of the noose.
Once again, this can be confirmed by a metadive. But you don't care about the truth, all you care about is who you can make look like scum.
#629 dismisses at least three separate concerns with mbg as "nah its all cool" including 582-592! wtf? NAI but mbg and -grey- are going to be opposite factions p sure
#637 why did it take this long for this? why? rask claimed a full HOUR prior. W T F. and why the hell put pressure on tb again? what is the point here? what more is going to come of this? i make this point several times around here, saying "no more than l-2" and gbT and -Grey- are BOTH dismissive of my point here, but gbT is trying to allay concerns while -Grey- (#644) is sayingthat everything points to TB=scum anyway so who gives a fuck. S C U M
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done[/quote]“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Cast shade and then say NAI. Brilliant.In post 699, cassielle wrote: #629 dismisses at least three separate concerns with mbg as "nah its all cool" including 582-592! wtf? NAI but mbg and -grey- are going to be opposite factions p sure“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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A whole hour?! Jiminy crickets!In post 699, cassielle wrote: #637 why did it take this long for this? why? rask claimed a full HOUR prior. W T F. and why the hell put pressure on tb again? what is the point here? what more is going to come of this? i make this point several times around here, saying "no more than l-2" and gbT and -Grey- are BOTH dismissive of my point here, but gbT is trying to allay concerns while -Grey- (#644) is sayingthat everything points to TB=scum anyway so who gives a fuck. S C U M
If Rask had been lynched in that hour, we'd have had the d2 lynch mapped out, I wasn't at all worried about having my vote on him while I decided where I wanted my vote to go.
Painting my actions as scummy here is disingenuous as fuck.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Bullshit.In post 700, cassielle wrote:also re: 578 it ignores the possibility of scumhunting which is a valid reason to vote someone who isnt your top scumread (see e.g. my current vote)
If he was scumhunting, he'd have wanted to lynch the most objectively scummier person which by his started theory was me since I might be scum with two different people whereas lynching either of those people wouldn't even clear me anyway.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Proof that all you care about is who you can make look like scum.In post 716, cassielle wrote:i dont really buy meta arguments USUALLY (outside of very hard, near infallible town/scumread meta like creature), so im going to say no, that doesnt matter here, it still feels like a scum mindset to me.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Why should I read what you want me to read when you straight up refused to read content that would contradict your bullshit push and show that it's playstyle indicative?
Fucking hypocrite.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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What pissed me off was her blatant misrepping of my play on multiple occasions.In post 738, schadd_ wrote:but getting a bit too frustrated with cass's arguments (she's done that with, like, everybody, bub)“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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^ that kind of shit is exactly what I'm talking about.
She is banging on that drum like it's her fucking swan song, but the inarguable fact of matter is that once I find scum, I want scum dead period and that giving scum time just gives them opportunity to escape.
Casserole is only concerned about superficial appearances.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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This doesn't change the fact that you are calling things I do as town scummy when the fact of the matter is it's simply playstyle.In post 739, cassielle wrote:2: the second time you brought it up -- if its true, i would be willing to say that your meta and mine work so poorly with each other than one of us would naturally be a d1 lynch in any game we were in. to me, shutting down info is ALWAYS anti-town. shortening the day dramatically is ALWAYS anti-town. i would read that meta and say "so its a player that personally id want to policy lynch because nothing about where theyre coming from feels pro-town to me at all no matter what side theyre on"
Disagreeing on theory doesn't make the other player scum. Misrepping the other person's play instead of actually wanting the truth, however...“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I have two completed town games.In post 739, cassielle wrote:3: you never even linked to a representative game like gbT did on a couple occasions in this very game, which makes me think youd be hoping id dig into a couple games shallowly, get exhausted from info overload and accept it at face value. notthat that would help this, see 1 and 2.
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You are full of shit.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I have no incentive to work with someone that doesn't even try to see things from my perspective.In post 739, cassielle wrote:4: finally, those posts i want you to read arent meta. they are directly relevant to this discussion, in this game, in this very conversation in fact. that is a pretty considerable difference.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69704
No clicking on the Dead spoiler...
What's my alignment?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Also check deadlines vs actual lynch dates.
OH WOW, IT'S LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY MY PLAYSTYLE!“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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^ fucking obvscum post lol
"I don't care how much you prove me wrong. I am going to double down and pray nobody else smells the bullshit pouring out of my mouth!"“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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In post 607, -Grey- wrote:
Idk, I'm occupied elsewhere.In post 606, Alisae wrote:Grey whats your read on Ircher currently?
Wow, I read super deep into Ircher before giving a read. Three whole minutes worth.In post 610, -Grey- wrote:ISOed Ircher, he seems pretty town.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Casserole, you're full of shit and anyone that actually reads the game I linked will see that.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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