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VOTE: FancyPants
Guide us, oh chosen one-
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It's been two pages someone find a scum yet?-
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In post 33, Overcat wrote: Anyway, I'll out some reads that you shouldn't take too seriously because it's been, like, 5 minutes:
I very mildly townread kay. I also very mildly townread Jackson for the effort he has put in so far.In post 57, JacksonVirgo wrote:
What part of what they're saying reeks of TMI?In post 42, Luka wrote:
their reads reek of TMI but they're new so w/eIn post 38, Hu Tao wrote: I like overcat so far. Even though they suspiciously chose a dog for an avatar as a cat-
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Pressuposing benevolent intent Overcat made a honest entry and Luka took an honest dislike to it. Nothing major, cat gives early reads but makes sure not to commit, Luka suspects this but again makes sure not to commit (cat: 5 min luka: cat is new)
Personal dislike for cat wallpost but that's more emotional than game related.
RVS behaviors, nothing solid for either wagon so far imo
Personally I feel some people are looking at this exchange as a way to get momentum going but from my side I'm happy with open discussion and keeping things slow for a bit-
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I don't have a read on Luka but I don't like any of the pushes launched at her so far. My gut did scream scum are in the grouping.-
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Nothing serious. Mainly people stating a sense of aggression when I didn't sense any, rather sensing aggression in Overcat, but that's probably a perspective thing.In post 117, ceejayvinoya wrote:In post 78, Eiralox wrote: I don't have a read on Luka but I don't like any of the pushes launched at her so far. My gut did scream scum are in the grouping.
can you point us to any push in particular that you didn't like?
YesIn post 129, Umlaut wrote:
@Eiraloxare you just sheeping me or do you have your own reasons to suspect ceejay?-
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I think you're the one being voted isn't the onus on you to daringly dazzle us with a display of downright towniness?
And monkeys should be naked anyway-
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I can wait for you to become coherent and game-orientated we still have plenty of time.-
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We're just going to lurkpost each other into a doom spiral of boredom so have a fun day monkey monkey-
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I don't think I'm really looking for anything from you specifically, unless your attitude towards the game changes.-
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It's not your responsibility to change my vote, my vote my choice. In a void with me, you, Umlaut and Hu Tao, with the data I currently have, my vote falls on you.-
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If you don't want to die sort of yeah it's how all this works
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Mostly yes. I do have some to say but I'm keeping chill for a bit. Before taking a mafia break my playstyle was actively detrimental to my mental health and at times others' experience, I mostly joined this game because I saw Ceejay was in it and generally am in a better place right now, but that's all mostly out of game.In post 214, Umlaut wrote: Eiralox, are you normally this... passive? I don't really remember. You seem content to just park your vote on whoever you think is highest prob scum, not try to convince anyone else nor push to learn more. Do you agree that accurately describes your approach?
I feel good about you and Hu Tao so far, as inferred by a prior post. Beyond that Jackson is probably towniest just for effort and the best opening post.-
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Noted. I usually try to do that.In post 221, Hu Tao wrote: I would say eira is the most sus voting right after I did despite unvoting that slot right before.-
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Mel?In post 228, Luka wrote:
Mel still isn't putting effort in idgi why are people towning them based off of thisIn post 219, Eiralox wrote: I feel good about you and Hu Tao so far, as inferred by a prior post. Beyond that Jackson is probably towniest just for effort and the best opening post.-
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Yeah he just feels chill is all
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I usually try to unvote like that I don't know what else I can say.
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effort = amount of content, engagement with others
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It was just a casual "Jackson's chill m8" >.>In post 262, JacksonVirgo wrote:
When Luka said he was unsure why people were town-reading my effort, you responded to that by saying I was chill. I don't see the connection there, are those two thinks deeply linked to you?-
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I mean if you're already feeling that here, just know that if this behavior in my past games are at an 10 i'm currently at a mild 1.5In post 274, KayJayQueue wrote:
Maybe the wrong word but I just mean that’s he’s trying to take control of the thread with his questions.-
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Asura don't exactly look like sloths but maybe it's the blue. Feel better!
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I kinda don't see myself voting Luka, Umlaut or KayJay today. The other four are fair game but highly doubt I'll vote Jackson just cos of his vibes.In post 321, Firebringer wrote: jackson asking me that question feels pretty weird as well.
i mean i did sort of naked vote but it still seems weird to ask-
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I am yes because you're voting me and not monkey.In post 367, JacksonVirgo wrote: That feels like you're starting to position yourself against me-
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You objectively look worse, much worse
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If you say so love-
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I must have missed it I can't click every spoiled before I've even drunk my monster -.-In post 373, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I do say so, I explained as much in my ISO-diveIn post 372, Eiralox wrote: If you say so love
Against you? Hu Tao? None. I'll check your reasons because you do say you posted some? But don't expect much from me?In post 374, JacksonVirgo wrote: Didn't you say to HEM it was his responsibility to defend against nothing but a naked vote? Where's your defense here?
And my defense against monke?
I'll explain why I voted Ceejay and Monke in my own time but for now I, in fact, waiting. Mostly for content from Hu Tao, humaneating monkey,GuyInFreezer-
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It's pacific punch but I prefer mariposa or watermelon. aussie lemonade is okay.In post 377, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Which flavour? I may unvote if you pick correctlyIn post 376, Eiralox wrote: before I've even drunk my monster
In post 378, JacksonVirgo wrote: Wait, you were trying to position yourself against me without even knowing what my case even was?
Not as such, real talk my vote will probably be very static today and not touch you at all, but you hurt my feelings so much by voting me after seeming to like me earlier that I feel I JUST have to form a towncore with Luka, Umlaut and KayJay, who all seem such splendid folk.-
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Ugh ok this is it you went hard I'll read it and try and talk with you when I get time
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I'm making a towncore from people I think are towny. You should be in it but nuh uh :3 My current stance is the voting humaneatingmonkey claw technique and I already said I'll explain it whenever.
I mean yeah you're jiving me for not efforting yet on p16 of a micro but honestly i already need a break -.-In post 383, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I sunk multiple hours into that it feels like lmao, I don’t actually know how long it took me
have fun Virgo-
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This is really aggressive when I haven't even interacted with you that much or at all. And your Luka take is pretty basicIn post 457, Hu Tao wrote: I still want Eira gone today. Since Luka is just tunneling me for whatever reason he can go too. But would prefer Eira-
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Wrong.In post 474, Hu Tao wrote:
So am I scum? Am I wrong?In post 473, Eiralox wrote:
This is really aggressive when I haven't even interacted with you that much or at all. And your Luka take is pretty basicIn post 457, Hu Tao wrote: I still want Eira gone today. Since Luka is just tunneling me for whatever reason he can go too. But would prefer Eira-
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Because I promised. Din't read the rest of your post because can't waste the energy rn
Yes. Early game. Personal dislike for facets of Overcat's play regardless of alignment. I was saying exactly what I wanted to say.In post 346, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Oh boy, here we go.In post 67, Eiralox wrote: Personal dislike for cat wallpost
This post feels like it's full of content but it really contains nothing but them stating a dislike for wallposts which they admit is more of an emotional response. I like them settling for a slow game but why write this whole post saying nothing just to say you want to take things slow?
the strongest stance one can take in a game is one's vote.In post 346, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Not explaining the ceejay read even when they voted, asked (responded later), unvoted and then responded to the question asking what the read was from, they seriously just dodged the question entirely. They've been incredibly sidelined up to this point, not making any stance and not committing to the one they did make. I didn't realise how little they did until seeing it in an ISO.
If you say so.
In certain legal systems maybe. Here I just follow the rules Alianna posted on p1.In post 346, JacksonVirgo wrote: The burden of proof is initially on the accuser. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
Honest advice maybe relax you're overthinking things from 1 to a 10. I don't have nothing to add here, I was being genuine with both you and Luka there so I know what I meant.In post 346, JacksonVirgo wrote: I know I responded to 256 and relevant posts in that string of conversation, but I really don't like how they reacted to this all. They say the town-read is because of my effort, walk it back and say it's predominately me being chill, I ask for elaboration and they say the two reads are seperate, I call that out and then they throw effort/chill into the same bucket again. This feels like textbook defensive behaviour, I do not like this slot.
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I mean that's a you problem imoIn post 558, JacksonVirgo wrote:
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Could you elaborate on why not monkey when you have timeIn post 594, KayJayQueue wrote: I’m not voting any of these today: Firebringer (obviously), Luka, HEM. Or myself.-
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Thanks : pIn post 599, KayJayQueue wrote:
It’s a gut townlean at the moment that I’d like to observe the rest of Day 1 and into Day 2 to get a more concrete read. It’s not fully developed but it’s enough to not want to vote there.In post 597, Eiralox wrote:
Could you elaborate on why not monkey when you have timeIn post 594, KayJayQueue wrote: I’m not voting any of these today: Firebringer (obviously), Luka, HEM. Or myself.-
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btw why's Umlaut scummy? because tbh this is the towniest I've found him in a game thus far. And iirc both games I've played with him he was scum >.>In post 612, Luka wrote:
I mostly was asking for elaboration on myself, why do you feel confident TRing me?In post 611, KayJayQueue wrote: I elaborated on HEM a few posts ago. For you, I feel pretty confident in townreading you currently.
One more to add to the pocket bin-
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Oh yeah we were town together in 2016 i forgot : 3In post 614, Luka wrote:
I never said he was, I have him >rand town. I'm saying I want more elaboraton on his reads and how they've changed.In post 613, Eiralox wrote: btw why's Umlaut scummy? because tbh this is the towniest I've found him in a game thus far. And iirc both games I've played with him he was scum >.>
Hmm ok. It's just that Umlaut is beneath monkey in your list. So far I think Umlaut is playing the game just fine but yeah. Mostly he's got the vibe I'm looking for in town, the only Umlaut post that really pinged me was in fact his opening one -.--
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Sure.In post 617, humaneatingmonkey wrote: I'm not convinced that there's a big reveal anyway.-
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too wombatty to be a walrusIn post 631, KayJayQueue wrote:
HelpIn post 629, humaneatingmonkey wrote: TWTBAW
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Why you still voting me Jackson-
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My feeling's been monkey x freezer it's been hard to find real scum behavior outside of their slots tbh. would love to be wrong.
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i'm not english but being called a goober is just so ughIn post 649, Luka wrote: this one little goober-
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sure but deep down a memory of me will existIn post 656, Luka wrote:
SowwyIn post 651, Eiralox wrote: i'm not english but being called a goober is just so ugh
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This is probably the most serious I've ever seen you bringer -.--
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not serious in an effort sense but in a consistently-not-relaxed sense. briefly explaining my current headspace, Luka caught Overcat in TMI'ng too early, Overcat doubled down by hard scum reading Luka to counter, which was in itself a TMI stance in this instance. Umlaut and Eiralox vote Ceejay, there follows a meta read which considering its pathos and timing was in itself TMI.
Following this, HME tries hard to engage Hu Tao and Eiralox for their naked votes, interacting with Eiralox specifically in a way that suggested he was looking to create thread chaos and make someone else play emotionally rather than rationally and provide fodder for a couterattack. Hard positioning by HME and subtle positioning by GuyInFreezer good indicator for townspewing Hu Tao and JacksonVirgo.
That's most of it. With Umlaut's opening post I immediately felt it was a bus vote on Overcat but since then I've seen no reason to doubt him. Hu Tao and Jackson only other people who have pinged me here and there but overall I can frame their attitude as most probably uninformed. I'd say I trust KayJay more than Luka but that's apples and pears at this point imo-
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Thank you : 3In post 718, KayJayQueue wrote: Happy Birthday! It’s really cute that scum get to celebrate their birthday together in the mafia PT.
I want to call that solve just because it’d be really funny.-
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Why. Are. There. Votes. On. Umlaut.
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I'll hammer Jackson to save Umlaut btw. Luka and Jackson parking their votes on vanity wagons part of the reason we didn't have momentum when we had scum at e-2.-
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It wasn't me who caught them, it was Luka and Umlaut.In post 790, KayJayQueue wrote: Why exactly are you so sure you caught scum?
I don't understand why you're voting Umlaut. Is it a content thing? Because he talks less = less value to the group? That's the push that monkey decided to pull last moment so if you have any other reason to think he's scummy please tell me.-
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In post 760, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Just go for Umlaut right now. If he's town, what has he really done? He spent the last few days tunnelling me on basically what amounts to null reads? Where are his other reads? Oh yeah, a Kay scumread because she's hypersensitive or something? Yeah, he doesn't look good.
Because, to put it bluntly, if your vote is partly or wholly motivated by the above post then you are being majorly played.In post 766, KayJayQueue wrote: Wait I can’t handle being the one responsible for his elimination, I don’t think I really want him dead. Yet.
Hmm. I want to vote GIF, Eira or
VOTE: Umlaut
The exact reason why I'm defending Umlaut is also why I'm now taking the effort to warn you against a player like monkey, now and in future: intent > content
As an aside, reading between the lines, monkey and co are either going to kill me tonight or are considering me as a viable D2 execution. If Umlaut gets eliminated today that might actually happen.-
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whatever. i'll try to be around but with six hours left I honestly don't care what happens just play smart with the next eliminations.
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I should have just voted GIF and called it quits. We can do that but honestly people might not be online to see it through. I can vote Jackson with you but I agree it's a green flip.
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I don't read what you say anymore.In post 798, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Shifting blame to others if it flips greenIn post 791, Eiralox wrote: It wasn't me who caught them, it was Luka and Umlaut.-
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Yes. You do post a lot but overall you're lost.In post 805, JacksonVirgo wrote: Good for you-
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