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Post #13 (isolation #1) » Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:04 pm
Postby Black »
In post 11, furtiveglance wrote:
My favourite part of this setup is that I can just claim Doctor and the scumteams don't know whether to kill me or not
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Post #119 (isolation #6) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:18 am
Postby Black »
In post 118, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Allow me to elaborate: Aureal made a non-point, IceDragon voted because of it. That's wacky, but this one doesn't particularly want to push that as "woah!! scum!!" YET, but Ice is def on my scumlist for it.
I see where you are coming from. I think applying pressure can be valuable even if you don't necessarily want to lim them yet. I guess all I'm saying is don't be afraid to use your vote on someone you think is scummy. Sometimes the reactions can either solidify or pick apart your initial read
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Post #140 (isolation #10) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:25 am
Postby Black »
In post 139, Doctor Drew wrote:
But in multiball like this, and if you are scum there is always a chance that the lim-bait is scum. Personally I wouldn't overthink things on D1 and just try to find the easiest path and just hope for the best.
I think I agree with this. Everyone is trying to lim scum D1, even scum
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Post #171 (isolation #14) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:25 am
Postby Black »
In post 169, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
This one thinks it trusts Python, and of course it's got a scumread on Ice for his vote on Mala, but otherwise it's... rather lacking in reads honestly. Need to give this game a look over sometime and try to come up with SOMETHING.
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Post #174 (isolation #15) » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:30 am
Postby Black »
Don't get me wrong...I'm not in a hurry to lim either. I just don't see the benefit of not using your vote in a situation where you SR someone and have the opportunity to use it as pressure
Yeah...I'm starting to think HPE just doesn't use its vote a lot. I only played one other game with it and it didn't make its first real vote until like post 400
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Post #236 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:06 am
Postby Black »
In post 220, Oclaxian Empire wrote:
tl;dr - scum are not going to want to kill scum today, but will act like they're actively trying to find scum. any other day? fuck if i know. its probably advantageous to scumhunt for all sides starting tmrw.
Ehhhh. Idk. I can understand the point where you said both scum teams have interest in keeping the other alive (for now) because that means more nights with multiple kills, but I still think I disagree here
Neither mafia team wins unless the other is completely eliminated. So both mafia teams should be just as eager to kill opposing scum as they are killing a townie. Yeah, having both mafia teams alive equals two kills, but those kills aren't guaranteed to hit green even if it's statistically likely. The Mafia teams could easily shoot each other overnight
I don't think scum finds enemy scum D1 and decides to vote elsewhere
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Post #288 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:38 am
Postby Black »
In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
I think you might be confusing me with someone else? We only played Death Note together. I've finished 5 games on site and 3 of them were wolf games lol
In post 282, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I thought you were bragging in one game that you never flipped scum before? Unless you have an alt i'm not aware of I guess. Either way you're scum here.
Black's been scum in Newbie 2111, Newbie 2113, Newbie 2116. It's basically a meme at this point that Black can't roll town in Newbie games
In post 313, Black wrote:
Didn't you just say those vibes were NAI?
That was before I realized I've only played with scum!Black, I'm basically trusting Kokichi that the vibes from DN are different until I actually have time to read the game
-A
That's an awful approach, but ok
If I had to even guess what Kokichi is referring to about my vibes being different, I guess I posted more jokes in this game? I barely knew anyone in DN so I didn't feel as comfortable and loose
I mean you said my vibes are the same in "all the other games" you've played with me. It was literally just one. And if you are seriously using meta on one game as the basis for your vote then I definitely SR that
In post 162, Black wrote:
I don't really think python "main hunting" is AI though
In post 326, Black wrote:
Convenient of you to ignore my first point. Using meta as the foundation of your vote is not town behavior
Python's mainhunting was explicitly used to provide meta to base their Dragon vote on. If using meta as the foundation of a vote is not town behaviour, then you should think it's AI, isn't it?
VOTE: Black
Yeah that's fair. I guess in my mind there's a difference in using it for the first push of the game on page 3 and then using it slightly more seriously here later in the game
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Post #336 (isolation #50) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:58 am
Postby Black »
You all are more than welcome to lim me based on meta ig?
You can read DN yourselves and probably see the only difference here is I'm playing more loose, and I already explained that's because of the playerlist
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Post #337 (isolation #51) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:59 am
Postby Black »
In post 335, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Okay first big red flag on Black (or black flag, it guesses) is that none of her DN solving effort really seems to be present. Maybe that's just a consequence of how DN's setup was, but... This setup is kinda similar in it's extra emphasis on day-time analysis to find scum since there's no investigatives, which even
DN
had one!
Can you elaborate on this? My solving effort consists of me asking questions. How is this game any different?
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Post #340 (isolation #52) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:11 am
Postby Black »
@Python - yeah I was clearly more invested in DN. That was only pg 7 but I feel like more stuff happened in those 7 pages than the 14 pages we have here. Lots more mech discussion and honestly just discussion in general. I found it much easier to read people that game
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Post #342 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:14 am
Postby Black »
I'm most sus of Python over this. I can kinda see this angle from Kokichi and HPE, I'm not really sure about Bianco as a player, but I don't see this push coming from town!python at all
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Post #348 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:28 am
Postby Black »
In post 346, usesPython wrote:
"You might be genuine but you probably aren't but if you are you're other groupscum"? Can you explain further?
What I'm saying is you might think I'm scum. That part can be genuine. But that doesn't mean you are town like it would in a normal setup
I looked at a past game because I wanted to see if you used meta to base a vote. You didn't, but I did find a post where you said you like to scumhunt by pushing people to see how they react
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Post #355 (isolation #60) » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:50 am
Postby Black »
The more I think about the meta wagon the more I'm not liking it from Kokichi. It seems like a convenient way to turn his RVS vote on me into something serious. It's also something I can't really defend myself against because meta arguments are pretty subjective
It would make sense for Kokichi to come into our second game together wanting me dead. I was able to see through his little town disguise in Death Note at the end, and it led to us winning the game in a situation where town was destined to lose. I feel like that could have caused him to view me as a threat here
Likelihood of scum on my wagon probably goes something like Kokichi > python > Bianco? > HPE