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Post #108 (isolation #10) » Thu May 25, 2023 5:41 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
In post 52, Alianna wrote:
I'm not willing to townlean anyone on the basis of "has reads" but I guess I won't complain about it too much.
this stuff felt slightly wolf to me at surface level.
"I won't complain about it too much" just feels like a wolf perspective in a way that I could see alianna slipping up. either about some correct townreads or wanting to get townread herself for an active start
the idea of town complaining about some page 2 reads just doesnt make sense to me, even if u disagree with the reads. what I would expect town to do is like, evaluate implosion's alignment based on that, which doesn't happen; this post also assumes implosion town in a +0.05% wolf way
In post 52, Alianna wrote:
I'm not willing to townlean anyone on the basis of "has reads" but I guess I won't complain about it too much.
this stuff felt slightly wolf to me at surface level.
"I won't complain about it too much" just feels like a wolf perspective in a way that I could see alianna slipping up. either about some correct townreads or wanting to get townread herself for an active start
the idea of town complaining about some page 2 reads just doesnt make sense to me, even if u disagree with the reads. what I would expect town to do is like, evaluate implosion's alignment based on that, which doesn't happen; this post also assumes implosion town in a +0.05% wolf way
idk ive been back and forth on this
why would town feel an urge to complain about those townreads? I spent a while trying to empathize with it but couldnt really
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Post #115 (isolation #14) » Thu May 25, 2023 6:06 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
idk u just feel like the other games I played with u
the way u are forming reads + the way u are asserting them, I believe this is u genuinely trying to solve the game
and like not caring about how appeasing it is. ppl find it wolfy but doesn't affect you
the wolfgames I briefly skimmed I could see like more effort to be amenable to people interacting with them + generally milder assertions
but in the games ive played with ppl they were also like "this is NAI for andante, that is NAI for andante" so I wouldnt let this take me past like, page 10
In post 115, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
but in the games ive played with ppl they were also like "this is NAI for andante, that is NAI for andante" so I wouldnt let this take me past like, page 10
this feels like you're leaving that opening to walk back that town lean you have on me.. like, when you see people pushing me, you have that door wide open to vote me and go "oh lol meta isn't reliable here"
idk yea I was sorta explicitly walking it back lol, like "theoretically if u did nothing I find towny after this, then it would go straight back to null soon cuz im so unconfident"
the intention was mostly to try to get things going by expressing mild feels
but I also think I feel more strongly about the townread now, so that prob wont happen
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Post #126 (isolation #16) » Thu May 25, 2023 6:27 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
In post 120, Andante wrote:
kinda wanna vote sheep... but sheep is at least interacting with me, so meh. I hate the votes on me. I feel like I'm the towniest one here by far
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Post #241 (isolation #21) » Thu May 25, 2023 7:05 pm
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
Cat Scratch Fever do u happen to have any reads on the active posters now? like andante/alianna/me etc.
it's kinda bugging me how ur avoiding commenting on relevant stuff
otherwise I would be townreading u lol. 151 and 213 are rly good imo
also what do I call u is it like Cat or CSF or something
In post 52, Alianna wrote:
I'm not willing to townlean anyone on the basis of "has reads" but I guess I won't complain about it too much.
this stuff felt slightly wolf to me at surface level.
"I won't complain about it too much" just feels like a wolf perspective in a way that I could see alianna slipping up. either about some correct townreads or wanting to get townread herself for an active start
the idea of town complaining about some page 2 reads just doesnt make sense to me, even if u disagree with the reads.
what I would expect town to do is like, evaluate implosion's alignment based on that
, which doesn't happen;
this post also assumes implosion town in a +0.05% wolf way
idk ive been back and forth on this
How am I supposed to evaluate someone's alignment off "X and Y are towny" with no reasoning? There really wasn't much to sort in the post. Even though I had a guess about the reasoning, I didn't find it AI. I just disagreed with it.
How does it do that?
ur green sorta contradicts u firmly assuming the reason was for giving reads
purple: this is basically me saying the same thing as the green part lol. a) finding it frustrating and b) not wondering "does poor logic make implo scum?" Technically assumes the reads are real + he is town
But I sorta want to drop it and my mind changed lol. ur post after this made me basically get it.
+ other takes made me think ur village
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Post #313 (isolation #28) » Fri May 26, 2023 5:16 pm
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
I think woo posting is rife with more disconnects to accompany the one drew pointed out
In post 247, GuerillaWoo wrote:
I am not sure I understand why I am being wagoned, but hello o/ Lookin like wagons are forming and dissipating in the span of a handful of post
In post 248, implosion wrote:
Well, you have two votes on you which is nominally a wagon. Do either of the votes on you make you think anything about the people voting you?
In post 249, GuerillaWoo wrote:
Nah, not really. They thought I was inactive and wanted to pressure. It's pretty NAI, scum could do it for the town vibes.
this just seems like a direct contradiction to me
I was also going to townread woo like, doubling down that he had no reads + nothing meaningful happened so far (last line of 247, 251). but then he talks about andante like a normal scum read. idk something feels fake
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Post #401 (isolation #30) » Sat May 27, 2023 7:09 pm
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
In post 375, Aisa wrote:
VOTE: sheepsaysmeep
Idk fellow citizens of Scarfolk his towniness seems a bit overrated to me
Would anyone like to convince me this slot is town?
Spoiler: gif
Yes?
tbh this feels slightly scummy to me. oh my god u suck
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Post #402 (isolation #31) » Sat May 27, 2023 7:12 pm
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
eh I was going to say a bunch of things but I double-checked closer and realized u do actually townread andante alongside all the other current wagons. so this makes far more sense to me
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Post #482 (isolation #37) » Mon May 29, 2023 8:40 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
Aisa's approach the last few days is nagging me
The way she has tested different votes (me, skitter, andante) just looks a little openwolfy to me
a) I think it highlights how she's struggling to form legit scumreads, which is just a little more likely wolf than villager
b)I think a more villagery approach would be like alianna's readlist, where she i) admitted explicitly to having a lack of wolfreads and b) concluded "there's likely a decent amount of wolves in the inactives," which is a valid conclusion imo. rather than like, aisa forcing herself to turn on different actives, such as her former townreads
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Post #484 (isolation #38) » Mon May 29, 2023 8:52 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
like in particular the momentary vote on me is still on my mind
theres like the "I'm just trying this to test what happens" aspect
which is just kinda wolfy to me outside of rvs
"I don't necessarily outright wolfread you, but I feel like what you've done is fakeable, so I want to challenge the townreads on u"
this just feels.. more inherently wolf-motivated to me. like even if there have been townreads that I disagree with, im not inclined to try to challenge them at this point. but theres so much direct scum reason to do so. the notion of "fakeable" feels like inauthentic justification when I would assert literally everyone has technically done easily fakeable stuff this game
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Post #486 (isolation #39) » Mon May 29, 2023 9:02 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
hi Im tired too lmaoo
ur post implies the existence of stronger scumreads than the people youre voting for. do u have any actual outright scumreads this game? my understanding was u were doing this because of a lack of actual scumreads and u were actually trying to hit scum
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Post #487 (isolation #40) » Mon May 29, 2023 9:05 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
In post 485, Aisa wrote:
I think it's like in general as a player I enjoy fooling around for a bit. Sometimes I don't vote my top scumread right away but I like poking and prodding and reactions testing a bit. Or I vote someone who I think is, like, an "underrated" wagon but not necessarily scummiest in absolute terms.
like this is something very normal to me that I'd probably do
it's more, something about how u havent rly presented anything directly as wolfy. more wishy-washy. which feels wolfy
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Post #489 (isolation #41) » Mon May 29, 2023 9:08 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
In post 438, Alianna wrote:
I'm also noticing a slight tone difference from when I was scum with her, but I can't really put it into words yet. I know that's not exactly helpful, just going to note it anyway.
I am curious if u can link this game pls. tho I prob wont read super in depth
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Post #498 (isolation #44) » Mon May 29, 2023 9:37 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
hmmmm ok thank u
I think Andante OMGUS is another andante town or at least NAI feature that we've been talking about this whole time ftr lol. it's been present in every game I played with her
In post 429, Doctor Drew wrote:
Ok have a few days off in a row, gotta give this game more attention.
I am starting to feel it in my gut that there is scum in Aisa/Alianna/Adante....as per my meta.
What does "as per my meta" mean?
This feels kinda convenient to me, considering the VC at the time (you were voting Woo, then think two other wagons Andante/Alianna could also be scum)
The way she has tested different votes (me, skitter, andante) just looks a little openwolfy to me
a) I think it highlights how she's struggling to form legit scumreads, which is just a little more likely wolf than villager
b)I think a more villagery approach would be like alianna's readlist, where she i) admitted explicitly to having a lack of wolfreads and b) concluded "there's likely a decent amount of wolves in the inactives," which is a valid conclusion imo. rather than like, aisa forcing herself to turn on different actives, such as her former townreads
I don't really think her progression on Andante from townread to a vote in the next post comes from scum
idk I started feeling a little better about aisa but I think it's totally see-able. especially in line with the fact that it seems like she was trying/struggling to develop scumreads -> "wow suddenly ive had a revelation and I think andante's scum"
idk there was just a v large quantity of thoughts that I really like
I think what bothered me about not engaging with major thread stuff is no longer valid; she had firm decent stances on all my major wolfreads etc
and generally her remarks just feel authentic/un-agenda'd; idk how to explain this vibe well but there's like a good mix of consensus and anti-consensusness
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Post #560 (isolation #54) » Tue May 30, 2023 5:29 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
ok I mildly agree about woo lol
not just the fact that he unvoted, but like his overall popin was just pretty bad. 2 posts but no will to do anything because the pressure on him has eased
"I don't feel like much has changed" when meaningful stuff happened is +wolf
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Post #655 (isolation #58) » Tue May 30, 2023 11:26 am
Postby sheepsaysmeep »
In post 637, Andante wrote:
plus it would give enchant a chance to start playing, and not just be defending all game.. I don’t think I was really SRing drew, so idk
to be fair he had like 3 votes total for the first day after he subbed in