<3Almost50 wrote:And now I KNOW I want to lynch that spot before it's too late :P
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AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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(But Almost50 is probably scum for that hammer especially literallyrightafter saying we should wait for me to get caught up.)AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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You expect me to know these things literally 30 seconds after replacing in?Rhaegar wrote:Almost is confirmed town.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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It'd help if people could summarize the results/claims for me now.
I mean.
You can have me read through the game and be hilariously wrong if you'd reallylike, but I would much prefer you let my catchup (what little I can actually do today) have ALL the relevant info.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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(Basically, I'm going to do what catching up I can before the mod comes in and locks the thread, but I'm going in literally blind right now and will make mistakes like the Almost50 one apparently is unless you tell me.)AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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{Almost50}
{pisskop}
{Lowell, shotty, Killthestory}
{Kop}
{duppin}
One.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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{Almost50}
{pisskop}
{Lowell, Killthestory, shotty}
{Kop}
{Autti}
{duppin}
Two.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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That's probably as much as I'm getting, since I know the mod's online, but I'll try to continue squeezing things in.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Correction, that was three.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'm an idiot.
{Almost50}
{Rhaegar}
{pisskop}
{Lowell, shotty}
{Kop}
{Autti}
{duppin}AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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(That was five. I somehow thought Killthestory was alive.)AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well in that case:
{Almost50}
{Rhaegar, Kop}
{pisskop}
{Lowell, shotty}
{Autti}
{duppin}AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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{Almost50}
{Rhaegar, Kop}
{pisskop, Lowell}
{shotty}
{Autti}
{duppin}
Six.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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{Almost50, Rhaegar}
{Kop}
{pisskop, Lowell}
{shotty}
{Autti}
{duppin}
Seven.
Yes, I'm putting Rhaegar in the same tier as Almost50, deal with it. Rhaegar'sthattown.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Ten. For what it's worth,
VOTE: duppin.
I know, there was already a lynch, my vote won't count.
Butsymbolism, man. It's symbolically on duppin. He's obviously scum.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I take it you agree with my read?
Kinda curious why you didn't lynch him, then.
shotty in my readthrough so far (12) hasn't set off any alarm bells. He hasn't been particularly town, but he still looked vaguely more like town than scum to me.
Autti's my pick for second scum because Autti's posting--while not as bad as duppin's--sends off all the wrong sorts of vibes.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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{Almost50, Rhaegar, Kop}
{pisskop, Lowell}
{shotty}
{Autti}
{duppin}
I realize it's theoretically possible for Kop to be scum if there's a {pisskop, Kop} scumteam, but let's be realistic, here.
That, and me really liking 341.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I also have to say shotty's posting actually gets stronger at around that point.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn you're right, that later it gets much worse, but around that same place, he's actually a townread.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'd like to point out, prior to this, SnarkySnowman was at L-1.Almost50 [4]: SnarkySnowman, duppin, Rhaegar, Killthestory
We know he's scum, sure, but you think the wagon on Almost50 (the town counterwagon to scum) only hasonescum on it?
It's not Rhaegar and we know it's not Killthestory, ergo, duppin is scum.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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594 is a fine stance to take on a scumbuddy, too, btw.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I saw that.Rhaegar wrote:Duppin argued early on that either myself or shotty is scum.
My thought was, more or less: "Right, duppin's scum for this, period, end of discussion. The only question is whether he was pushing two town players or pushed both a scumbuddy and a town player and chose to push the town player harder". Because if you note, he did push you harder than shotty.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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This actually makes me think shotty could be scum.Killthestory [6]: drmyshottyizsik, Almost50, KainTepes, pisskop, Kop, SnarkySnowman [L-1]
Not from this specifically, but Autti was pressuring SnarkySnowman for a lynch.
And while strictly speaking, KTS was a counterwagon to Almost50, he wasalsoa counter-wagon to SnarkySnowman. That suggests scum voting here as well, and aside from SS himself, that would be shotty.
I mean, we're gonna find out anyway, but it definitely makes me want duppin's blood tomorrow over Autti.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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683 also reads as fake.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Shotty also consistently defended SnarkySnowman all game pretty much. It's throughout D1 as well, but it is manifesting in D2 as I read with posts like 720.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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737 is horrible both positionally-wise (calling SS scum but not voting him)andtonality-wise as well.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Almost caught up, six pages or so to go, but pretty sure my reads aren't changing from this:
{Almost50, Rhaegar, Kop, pisskop}
{Lowell}
{Autti}
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Actually, I know for a fact SnarkySnowman did not get it from this game, 100%, but eh, they're probably scumbuddies anyway.Rhaegar wrote:I did a search for "shotty" in all of snarkys posts. And by that i mean everything from this site. He hasn't interacted with shotty prior to this game from what i can initially tell. The fact that he then knows about this meta is somewhat suspicious.
Also, should be pretty obvious: Lowell was a counter-wagon to shotty. I don't necessarily think scum voted there. (I mean. Almost50 is confirmed town, then you have pisskop as well on there.) But I think it's still pretty clear Lowell's most likely town from that.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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And I think that duppin needs the noose tomorrow.Rhaegar wrote:I think shotty needs to get the noose today based on this.
It is far more likely he places a scumbuddy in the town reads than it is he places a scumbuddy in the nulls at that stage.
And the town there? Are you (town) and me (also town), with duppin the odd man out.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Any game, any time, just you give the name.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Caught up.
So no fears about the hammer, all's good, you got your catchup content anyway.
I approve of the lynch.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Indeed.Rhaegar wrote:Well, Almost and Kop are both confirmed town now.
Also, three things should happen today.
One, if there was a N3 cop, they should claim their result. And it better be on one of {Autti, duppin}.
Two, if one of {Autti, duppin} is a doctor, they need to claim.I have very good reasons for asking this.Our lynch may depend on the answer. (Trust me on this.)
Three, depending on the two factors above, we lynch one of them. Most likely duppin.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Senile as someone at 50 would be, I'm pretty sure Almost50 doesn't qualify as being two different people.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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My plan yesterday was get caught up in the game before the mod posted the flip and to identify the scum for future reference, given as how there had already been a lynch.duppin wrote:I'm curious, what was your plan?
My plan today? Lynch said scum.
VOTE: duppin.
We have neither a doctor claim nor an N3 cop claim, and of {duppin, Autti}, I find duppin more likely to be scum.
Your analysis on Autti is my own! Possible town, possible scum, could be lynched.Rhaegar wrote:Conclusion: There's some good, some bad. Maybe even enough for a lynch.
But my read on duppin is that he'sprobablescum, only remotely-possible town, andshouldbe lynched.
My analysis is that, if my theory is correct, Rhaegar is 100% confirmed town. Sure, Rhaegar's town by play, but I actually think by Rhaegar's town by role, assuming my theory holds true. I would prefer not to explain why because, as pisskop says, scum benefit more from claiming (or even speculating about) roles than town does.Almost50 wrote:I'm waiting on Ranger to show up and submit her latest analysis. I know for a fact she can see through it all and could probably pinpoint the remaining scum with a final read through. I've seen her do it before.
That means, 100%, scum are within {Autti, duppin}.
I could be wrong about which of them it is, because both of them aresimilar, but of them, I think there is a much stronger case for duppin being scum. I'm a bit busy at the moment, so I can't actually compile the case right now, but if this is something you need me to actually do rather than simply taking my word for it, I can do it later when I'm not quite as busy.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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duppin wrote:Ranger how about you explain exactly why I'm scum.Ranger wrote:Rhaegar is 100% confirmed town. Sure, Rhaegar's town by play, but I actually think by Rhaegar's town by role. That means, 100%, scum are within {Autti, duppin}. [Of] them, I think there is a much stronger case for duppin being scum.I'm a bit busy at the moment, so I can't actually compile the case right now, but if this is something you need me to actually do rather than simply taking my word for it, I can do it later when I'm not quite as busy.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'm not sure what there will be to say.duppin wrote:I'd like to engage you when you have the time by the way.
Rhaegar, if I'm right, is town.
I think Rhaegar and I both know why.
I think we also know what the other is thinking.
And scum have not figured it out.
Which is why I don't support the massclaim.
I think you are scum for it, because you need those claims.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I fail to see how.duppin wrote:Massclaiming pretty much ends the game today (if not today, then tomorrow). You simply can't deny that.
There isn't a doctor claim from you or Autti. This tells me what I needed to know.
There isn't an N3 cop claim with a result on one of you.
With the given information, I already know that {you, Autti} is guaranteed to have the scum within. As a result, there's no point in massclaiming. We lynch one of you, and if the game's not over, we lynch the other the next day. So the game's over no matter what, yes, but it then becomes a point of why we would even bother massclaiming.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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In other words: we gain nothing from massclaiming we do not already know.
Scum on the other hand gain plenty.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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What.duppin wrote:You weren't asking yourself "who is the scum?" but more so "what if duppin is scum" and then tried to make a case based on that.
My reads evolved as I was reading the thread. The changes in them were marked by clear event triggers, e.g. Kop and pisskop becoming more town post-claims, Lowell becoming more town when he towned it up, shotty becoming more scum. You remained at the bottom because I found you the player most likely to be aligned with SnarkySnowman, and later, also shotty.
Rhaegar can't be scum and if he is then I'll personally eat the lynch and accept the loss for being wrong here. pisskopAutti wrote:Pisskop can be scum, and so too rhaegar.canbe scum, sure, but he isn't. In all practical terms, they're both town, by role, by play. Your post here is really "ew"-inducing.
Notduppin wrote:To be fair I think Ranger's point is that it doesn't really matter that much if we mass claim at this point.quitetrue. My point is that massclaim tells us nothing the guaranteed-town players (pisskop, Rhaegar, probably Almost50 because I think he's smart enough to figure out what I caught, and me) haven't already figured out, whereas it tellsyouinformation that you didn't have. And one of {you, Autti} is scum. So, scum gain info, whereas town already have that info.
Of course, if I'm wrong and any of the conftown don't understand what's going on and they request the massclaim, sure, I'll do it, but if it's just you two requesting it, the answer is plain and simply,no.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Because something advanced is going on. :Pduppin wrote:I'm sorry Ranger, but why do you think something advanced is going on?
The thing I have in minddoesconfirm him as town.
And? This isn't your first game with me. You know my modus operandi. (But, will do, it'll take a bit to get to it, but it'll happen today.)I know your reads were evolving, but you pinged me out really early and then you were just set on it.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Bluntly, if both {you, Autti} are town then I deserve to lose.duppin wrote:You just have to keep in mind that if Autti is not the scum, you'll end up in the last three with Rhaegar and pisskop so if we lynch me today, you might want to discuss it that possibility tomorrow with the other confirmed town still alive.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well, because Almost50 is trying to lynch Autti instead of duppin.Rhaegar wrote:Why the hell are we all fucking claiming?
I don't see Autti's claim as town, but I also don't see it as scum; there's no strong indicator one way or another as to his alignment.
Sure, but the loss would be my fault more than anyone else's. It would also be the scum in {pisskop, Rhaegar} playing aduppin wrote:It's not 'your' game to lose. If this ends up being the case, then all of us (town) loses.stellarscumgame, yeah, and it would be the town sucking, yeah, but I would be the primary cause of the town loss, both because I'm expected to be better and because I'd have led the town to two consecutive mislynches and landed myself as the third for my stupidity.
But I'm willing to take that risk, because I find it infinitely more likely that I'm right, one of {you, Autti} as scum, with me favoring you. (That case is still coming, albeit not at the moment; I still have a couple things that are higher priority at the moment.)
Fine.Rhaegar wrote:Ranger, if you're going to claim you may as well say what you are.
I'm a N5 doctor.
I know you're a doctor, too, because the last scum is going to have claimed cop.
That's because I'm absolutely convinced we're in the 6-doctor, 4-cop setup. Why else would both scum have claimed cop? If we had only five doctors, they could have claimed doctor, yet they both claimed cop. The logic behind this should be obvious enough, but I can explain further if this doesn't make sense.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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You have that backwards.Autti wrote:conversly if ranger and almost claim doc, then we KNOW for a fact that the scum is a doctor claimer, and all cops are confirmed town, as we would have 6 docs and 5 cops (impossible).
We have pisskop as one cop, Kop as a second, Lowell as a third, and then two cop claims: yours and duppin.
We have three flipped doctors, Almost50 as a confirmed fourth, and then two doc claims: Rhaegar's and mine.
One cop claim must be true.
One doctor claim must also be true.
The reason why I'm convinced Rhaegar is town, though, is because if we're in the 4:6 cop:doc setup, scum literallycould notclaim doctor. If they did, then they would eventually be outted as confscum when we had 7 doctor claims total.
In contrast, they could claim cop safely, because then we'd have 5 cop claims total, which is safe.
This would explain why both SnarkySnowman and shotty claimed cop...when claiming a result as a cop is something that is sub-optimal play from them, as shown by how Snarky's claim ended up rather decisively clearing pisskop.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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For the record, when it comes to duppin: his claim itself is the same, neither town nor scum.I don't see Autti's claim as town, but I also don't see it as scum; there's no strong indicator one way or another as to his alignment.
However, how he treats the claim is scum.
He just accepts that he and Autti are both, conveniently, N5 cops.
While having two in the same night is not impossible, refer to pisskop for why I don't see town just accepting this without hesitation. He just nonchalantly takes it as a given Autti's a N5 cop. While claiming N5 cop. This is why I prefer duppin over Autti.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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<3Almost50 wrote:I'm speechless. THIS is why you're GOOD. You do pay attention to details that escape us all
I'll be building a duppin case shortly. This game's my top internet priority, though I have a little real-life stuff to do first.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I'll give you the highlights.RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll actually read this.- On D1, SnarkySnowman was a scummy scumperson, was wagoned, and claimed N1 cop. This is how KTS got mislynched.
- D2, SnarkySnowman claimed a guilty on your slot, pisskop.
- Hilariously enough, as you're well aware, pisskop was an N1 cop with an innocent on Kop. The results from this were obvious.
- shotty managed to obvscum it up D3. We gained the additional information that Kop was an N2 cop, with an innocent on Almost50.
- Rhaegar has been obvtowning it up ever since D1.
- shotty claimed N4 cop, we lynched him anyway.
- D4 comes around. duppin and Autti both push for a massclaim.
- I deduced Rhaegar was a doctor. From SnarkySnowman and shotty both claiming cop, I inferred we were in the 6:4 doc:cop setup.
- This is because I, myself, am a doctor, for N5.
- It was concluded scum was within {duppin, Autti}, and we lynched duppin. It wasn't him.
You're basically confirmed town. Rhaegar is basically confirmed town. I'm notasconfirmed town, though I can argue for it if necessary. Kopisliterally confirmed town. So, Autti is pretty much the last scum.
So, let's list the theoretical options we can do for today.- The lynch could be on one of {you, Rhaegar}. GOD no, for the aforementioned reasons that while you may not officially be literally-mod-confirmed town, I'm treating you both as if you are anyway.
- We mislynch me. This will bring you to an {Autti, RadiantCowbells, Rhaegar} lylo. For obvious reasons, I'd preferyou not doing this, but so long as you lynch Autti, then I wouldn't mind too terribly much. If I'm wrong, I'll take the blame, but, really, I'm not.
- We lynch Autti. This should win us the game. If it doesn't, then this scenario is effectively identical to the above, since I'd deserve the loss.
- Option four is viable because of claims and math: we no lynch. I'm an N5 doctor. Autti is a claimed N5 cop. If the scum no-kill or I stop a kill, then tomorrow, we have Autti either claiming a guilty (which is an auto-win: lynch the guilty, and if Autti was lying, lynch Autti), or Autti claiming an innocent result: lynch Autti to either end the game or confirm the innocent, scum nightkill one of the two innocent results, and we go into a 3p lylo with one conftown, a 50/50 shot.
The down side to this scenario, however, is two outcomes: if Autti claims to investigate the R player nightkilled, then we have Autti and two uncleared players, objectively a 33% chance. I'd say this is the worst-case scenario. The second is if Autti is town, and is nightkilled. Because that would leave all three Rs alive, and uncleared. Also objectively a 33% chance. This scenario, however, is basically identical to as if we had lynched Autti. I also find it the least-likely, because, well...it requires Autti being town.
Personally, I prefer scenario 3 because it's probably the fastest way to win the game. But I want your feedback.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Effectively, yes.RadiantCowbells wrote:So my slot is as of now considered basically confirmed town: correct?
The 1v1 between SnarkySnowman and pisskop, along with pisskop being one of the major pushers of shotty, makes your slot basically confirmed town. We don't have a cop innocent, but we don't need one.
Basically, yes. pisskop was one of the primary pushers of both scum...but theIf I'm already seen as near conftown and you're confident that Rhaegar is town, I'm willing to autolynch Autti if you flip town.otherpusher, who pushed both longer and harder, was Rhaegar. (Whose posting is also obviously town without interactions.) This,beforemy speculation about Rhaegar. To see that, 1004 (first hint), 1023 (much more explicit), 1031, 1047, 1051, with the revelation in 1101, and further explained in 1102.
I'm more sure about Rhaegar being town than I am about your slot being town, and your slot could literally not be more obvtown. (Because, in addition to the interactions with scum, pisskop was obvtown on his own merits.)
So, I deserve to lose if either of these reads is wrong.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Though, Iamwondering why you're lynching me first.
That's backwards from the RC I know.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I don't have a vengekill this game, RC. Both my self-votes were done with the explicit foreknowledge I would have an influence on the game no matter what. (Especially in longnight!) They also accomplished something by inherent nature of the self-vote. My shortnight self-vote helped set up the endgame I preferred. (Albeit a miscalculation on my part.) My longnight self-vote was a gambit, and while I didn't get the endgame setup I preferred because my gambit failed (withRadiantCowbells wrote:Well that's funny because the reason I did it was to see if you'd selfvote, because that's what I expected from the Ranger I know.threesetbacks), the intention of doing so was there. In both instances, I was under the impression every bit of productive discussion with the current gamestate had been made, so I needed to do something to change it: the self-vote.
Here, there is productive discussion to be had. I'm not voting Autti, either, and Autti's basically 99.99% scum at this point.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Which is why we're probably lynching Autti today, but I want to hear from everyone first. We've been the only two people to speak so far today.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Right, so at this point, just waiting on Rhaegar to check in.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well, we do have the time to spare.
Just make sure we don't need any other replacements (aside from maybe Rhaegar but hopefully not), and we can take as long as we need.
It wouldn't be the end of the world if we ended today in a deadline-induced no-lynch (unlikely as that would be), and that's very unlikely to happen since we're all around and able to vote where needed to have a lynch go through anyway. So, we can afford to take some time, since we've got breathing room a plenty.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Aren't we all.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Brings back memories of Blitz 21.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Last day.
We all knew Expedience was scum, we were just...kinda...waiting for it to be over.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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If both RC and you are alright with it, yes.
VOTE: Autti.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Well then.
UNVOTE: Autti.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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1135 contains all the claims: Andrius/Rhaegar as N1 doctor, Almost50 as N4 doctor, me as N5 doctor, RC/pisskop as N1 cop with an innocent on Kop, Kop as N2 cop with an innocent on Almost50, duppin as N5 cop, and Autti as N5 cop.
So, basically, yeah, we're effectively in lynch-Autti mode.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I have no special reason to desire being the hammer vote.
VOTE: Autti.
Whoever wants to can do the honors.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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<3AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Nah, we just won pretty sure.AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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Pinkie promise. <3AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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