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Post Post #120 (isolation #0) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:04 pm

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In post 117, pisskop wrote:That looks terrible, and House needs to get into the game.


Nearly impossible to read votecounts do not capture my interest.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #1) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:05 pm

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By the way, Boonskiies, I'm town this game.

Don't lynch me plzkthx.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #2) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:28 pm

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In post 120, House wrote:
In post 117, pisskop wrote:That looks terrible, and House needs to get into the game.


Nearly impossible to read votecounts do not capture my interest.


My first post in this thread, with 5 pages of posts to work with, is nothing more than a complain about vote count formatting.

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Post Post #126 (isolation #3) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:49 pm

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Any chance we can get it in something besides black?

Because black text against a black background is rough on the eyes.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:47 am

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VOTE: tip

For being such a wonderfully hypocritical lurky fluffmeister.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #5) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:13 am

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My post is fairly self-explanatory. Stop trying to obfuscate because it just makes me want to scumread you for soft-defending your buddy.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #6) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:25 am

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In post 144, pisskop wrote:
In post 143, House wrote:My post is fairly self-explanatory. Stop trying to obfuscate because it just makes me want to scumread you for soft-defending your buddy.

Show me his hypocracy. House, you know better than that.


Click a fucking ISO link and read his 14 pages of fluff complaining about nothing happening instead of demanding explanations for shit that is so obvious that even I can see it.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:26 am

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In post 147, House wrote:
In post 144, pisskop wrote:
In post 143, House wrote:My post is fairly self-explanatory. Stop trying to obfuscate because it just makes me want to scumread you for soft-defending your buddy.

Show me his hypocracy. House, you know better than that.


Click a fucking ISO link and read his 14
pages
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Post Post #153 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:33 am

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In post 149, tip wrote:
In post 147, House wrote:
In post 144, pisskop wrote:
In post 143, House wrote:My post is fairly self-explanatory. Stop trying to obfuscate because it just makes me want to scumread you for soft-defending your buddy.

Show me his hypocracy. House, you know better than that.


Click a fucking ISO link and read his 14 pages of fluff complaining about nothing happening instead of demanding explanations for shit that is so obvious that even I can see it.


ah, yes. that time i openly outted my read on zebulin while simulatenously cutting down the quite possibly the most asinine wagon ever formed on D1 in a mafia game. ch-yeah, that was me fluffing


Ah yes, your second post which I plan to analyze for associatives once you flip scum. It looks like you slipped in it and have begun fluffing it up to avoid doing so in the future.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:10 pm

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In post 165, Zebulin wrote:
In post 160, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:My reasons for wanting Zeb to claim are...get ready...I was PR hunting. Come at me.

In post 162, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm not PR fishing.

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VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee


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Post Post #169 (isolation #10) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:57 pm

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In post 168, Zebulin wrote:
In post 166, House wrote:
In post 165, Zebulin wrote:
In post 160, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:My reasons for wanting Zeb to claim are...get ready...I was PR hunting. Come at me.

In post 162, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm not PR fishing.

:facepalm:

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee


:facepalm:

VOTE: Zebulin


???


You make zero effort to ask about the thoughts behind the perceived contradiction and zero effort to build a case against the player you're voting on, and simply hope people will sheep you.

So I returned the favor.

If you want me to vote BBT, you'll have to do better than that.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #11) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:31 pm

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In post 170, Zebulin wrote:
In post 169, House wrote:
In post 168, Zebulin wrote:
In post 166, House wrote:
In post 165, Zebulin wrote:
In post 160, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:My reasons for wanting Zeb to claim are...get ready...I was PR hunting. Come at me.

In post 162, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm not PR fishing.

:facepalm:

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee


:facepalm:

VOTE: Zebulin


???


You make zero effort to ask about the thoughts behind the perceived contradiction and zero effort to build a case against the player you're voting on, and simply hope people will sheep you.

So I returned the favor.

If you want me to vote BBT, you'll have to do better than that.


Well, BBT outright lied. I'm wasn't trying to build a case on him, I was trying to pressure him to get a scumslip (if he's town there's no harm), but you ruined it. :cry:

BBT: Why is there the contradiction pointed out two posts ago?
House: Why are you assuming I want people to sheep me? (Don't sheep me. I'm not confident enough in my reads right now.)


A naked vote isn't pressure. If you had questioned him in the aforementioned post, it would have been pressure.

Your post was just, "Look err'body, vote this!"
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Post Post #183 (isolation #12) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:40 am

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In post 182, Ponystar17 wrote:Can someone who disagrees with the BBT wagon please explain why anything anyone has done so far is more suspicious than bad logic and blatant PR-hunting? I don't think meta is an acceptable excuse for behaviour which actively attempts to decrease town's chances of winning.

What I mean by bad logic: acting like it doesn't matter whether PRs are outed now or many days later, acting like wanting PRs outed at all isn't pro-scum.



BBT is town because Zebulin is scum.

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Post Post #196 (isolation #13) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:06 am

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In post 185, Zebulin wrote:
Why is the wagon on me accusing me of trying to get sheep, and then trying to get sheep?


You should totally sheep me and find out.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #14) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:20 am

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In post 197, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
- Weird unvote from Zeb. Especially as I found Ploben's reasoning for his vote extremely lacking. I don't usually do pre-flip associatives but something to bear in mind for later in the game is that Zeb and Ploben could be scum together. Would explain Ploben's comfort with placing the L-1 vote on his buddy and also Zeb's weird 'pressure vote' and then immediate unvote after a poor explanation.


I'll go along with your hunch on the associative on ploben if you lynch Zeb and he flips scum.

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- No, House isn't anything near conf town.


You should listen to Boonskiies. He knows what he's talking about there.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #15) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:29 am

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In post 199, pisskop wrote:
Random is scummy because he forgets basic things and is putting on a show.


How is that scummy? I do that all the time.

It's not alignment indicative.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #16) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:35 am

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In post 202, pisskop wrote:
In post 200, House wrote:
In post 199, pisskop wrote:
Random is scummy because he forgets basic things and is putting on a show.


How is that scummy? I do that all the time.

It's not alignment indicative.

But you are House :b
. Random is being a filthy lurker, and in the absence of better votes I'm sticking here.


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Post Post #205 (isolation #17) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:38 am

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In post 204, pisskop wrote:
. I'm wary of voting either so early when there's been so much
terrible
around them.


All the terrible around Zebulin is cancelled out by my excellence.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:17 am

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Why am I...

Oh yeah!

Right.

Can we please get to D2 so something productive can happen?
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Post Post #316 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:52 am

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In post 297, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I like that reasoning Kaboose.

Though, I would say House and Luca are more useless than Tip. So, why the vote on Tip?


That's a fair statement, especially considering I've been prodded twice.

So yeah... why somebody who is actually particpating over a lurkslot like me that can't even make the 48 hour minimum?
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Post Post #317 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:53 am

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In post 298, Kaboose wrote:I've considered Tip to be more useless probably because he stands out more. House would be second for sure. Luca has been miserably absent. But I'll give him points for not clogging the thread up with stuff I don't need to read.


Oh really? Who is more likely scum, the one in the spotlight or the one flying beneath the radar?

Do you get lynched D1 as scum a lot?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #21) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:55 am

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In post 306, Kaboose wrote:That would go against what I'm looking for D1.

Let's lynch house or tip today.

Ploben we can think about tomorrow?


Funny how you changed your tune when you were called out on it.

Attempting to redirect the wagon noted.

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Post Post #321 (isolation #22) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:19 am

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In post 319, Kaboose wrote:
In post 317, House wrote:
In post 298, Kaboose wrote:I've considered Tip to be more useless probably because he stands out more. House would be second for sure. Luca has been miserably absent. But I'll give him points for not clogging the thread up with stuff I don't need to read.


Oh really? Who is more likely scum, the one in the spotlight or the one flying beneath the radar?

Do you get lynched D1 as scum a lot?

I'm pretty sure you can find scum anywhere the same. But my point is that if you're going to be useless on D1, then I don't want to trust you to not be useless on D2 and beyond.


That's rather superficial reasoning, as there is jack all worth using on D1.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #23) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:21 am

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In post 319, Kaboose wrote:
In post 318, House wrote:
In post 306, Kaboose wrote:That would go against what I'm looking for D1.

Let's lynch house or tip today.

Ploben we can think about tomorrow?


Funny how you changed your tune when you were called out on it.

Attempting to redirect the wagon noted.

VOTE: Ploben

What did I get called out on? And where did I attempt to redirect a wagon? My vote is on Tip, has stayed on Tip, and will remain on Tip until he stops being useless today or until someone says "I'm scum lol"


In post 297, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I like that reasoning Kaboose.

Though, I would say House and Luca are more useless than Tip. So, why the vote on Tip?


All of a sudden my name crept into your "can we lynch this person today" list after BBT called you out for it.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:29 am

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Can we move things along, please?
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Post Post #380 (isolation #25) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:09 am

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In post 379, Luca Blight wrote:Ok cool, I will start catching up.


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Post Post #435 (isolation #26) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:42 pm

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In post 418, MonkeyMan576 wrote:House isn't as bad as random, Luca had some personal issue, I think.


Seriously?

I've already been prodded twice.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:45 pm

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In post 427, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm not going to vote for reasoning I don't agree with, you're acting pretty rediculous.


VOTE: MonkeyMan576

Not for being difficult about agreeing to sheep BBT, but for the amount of squirming you're doing in the process. Your posts read like you're backed into a corner.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:27 pm

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In post 438, MonkeyMan576 wrote:You're wrong, he's not backing me into a corner, I'm backing him. I think I've shown how ridiculous his thought process is.


Not buying it. You've been pretty defensive in that interaction.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:52 pm

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In post 440, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'm perfectly capable of acting offensive or defensive as I see fit, sometimes it makes sense to act defensive to see how far someone will go with their misguided logic.


That's all well and good, but defensiveness should make sense, instead of looking like caught scum trying to wiggle out of the light of suspicion.

Like , for example. Instead of attempting to redirect misguided logic, you'll bait it along? Nah, man.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:14 am

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In post 451, pisskop wrote:
In post 448, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:430 - And House isn't? What's the difference, Pisskop?

Is House your scumread atm?
. I've noted House's odd play (for him in my experience), but nobody is pushing him. Tomorrow if he fails to play I'd be much, much more interested in House.


The major difference between Rando and House, to me, is that House hasn't done anything scummy; he just hasn't done anything pro-town either.


House seldom does anything pro-town because House isn't a pro-town player regardless of House's alignment.

For you to not know that about House suggests that you don't know what odd play for House really is and should not be making such misleading statements.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:24 am

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In post 458, pisskop wrote:
In post 457, House wrote:
In post 451, pisskop wrote:
In post 448, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:430 - And House isn't? What's the difference, Pisskop?

Is House your scumread atm?
. I've noted House's odd play (for him in my experience), but nobody is pushing him. Tomorrow if he fails to play I'd be much, much more interested in House.


The major difference between Rando and House, to me, is that House hasn't done anything scummy; he just hasn't done anything pro-town either.


House seldom does anything pro-town because House isn't a pro-town player regardless of House's alignment.

For you to not know that about House suggests that you don't know what odd play for House really is and should not be making such misleading statements.

This isn't your prododge, is it? I'll be awful sad if you came here just to try to disparage me.


Keep your shitty attitude to yourself. You're about a week late for the wisecracks.

You had all kinds of time to be a douche about me being too busy with the problems in my life to worry about pixels on a monitor.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:43 am

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In post 463, pisskop wrote:Meh? This is civilized.


Actually agreeing with pisskop here (for me, anyway... I don't recall HIM being so caustic before)
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Post Post #467 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:23 pm

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In post 466, pisskop wrote:House is a big ol' softie. He's got nothing on my political forums. :D
. The takeaway is that he said he is busy irl. And that I'm right to lynch him D2 should he lurk then too.


Are you nuckin' Futz?
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Post Post #470 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:10 pm

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Nah, I don't replace out that easily. I just wait for something worth reading before I bother posting.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:56 pm

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In post 471, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 470, House wrote:Nah, I don't replace out that easily. I just wait for something worth reading before I bother posting.



Boonskiies, you are buddying the hell out of me, bro.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:07 pm

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Fair enough.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #37) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:57 pm

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Gotta be honest, the only thing stopping me from voting Random is Monkey being on his wagon.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:30 am

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In post 499, ploben wrote:I haven't seen much in 2 days IRL that makes me want to change me vote. Tip going silent peaks my interest a little.


Piques.

The word is piques.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:48 am

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Hey Boonskiies,

What do you say we lynch ploben?

I have reasons, but before I post them, read his ISO and share your take, please.


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Post Post #506 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:09 am

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In post 503, Slandaar wrote:Ploben is town I think.

@Blue why is it you cannot answer my one very simple question?

@Pony please can you let me know my read on midget.


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Post Post #541 (isolation #41) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:36 am

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In post 522, Boonskiies wrote:Boonskiies

BlueBloodedToffee

Slandaar
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House

Luca Blight
Kaboose (replaces Always Mafia)
tip
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This is kind of how I feel right now.


I'm pretty close to null for the kinds of posts I've been reading. I'd have thought you were pretty convinced I was town.

Not that I'm complaining. Not a fan of being obvtown. Just interesting to note.
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Post Post #544 (isolation #42) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:38 am

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In post 542, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You're nowhere near obvtown.

I can assure you of that.


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Post Post #551 (isolation #43) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:08 pm

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In post 545, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Reads House?


Every now and then, I read a little.
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Post Post #553 (isolation #44) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:13 pm

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In post 552, pisskop wrote:
Kill: House


You're supposed to wait for night to do that.
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Post Post #556 (isolation #45) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:27 pm

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In post 555, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 549, Zebulin wrote:VOTE: tipEVERYTHING is Pony's case makes sense.

Clarification for read on Ploben: I thought he was dodging questions, I ISO'd him, and he wasn't dodging questions. Sure, he's avoiding the game, but nowhere near on the level of tip or House.

Random is null leaning town, I forgot to put him in.

Monkey: Why is random scum?

House, Boon: Why are you two buddying (other than friendliness)?


He seems to be purposefully lurking, like he could say more if he wanted to but is just deciding not to to avoid criticism.


What is your read of me?
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Post Post #641 (isolation #46) » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:56 pm

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I refuse to put up with tip.

VOTE: tip

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Post Post #648 (isolation #47) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:01 am

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In post 647, Kaboose wrote:
In post 641, House wrote:I refuse to put up with tip.

VOTE: tip

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So you're admitting no chance that you're NKd?


What a scummy way to twist my post.

There's obviously a chance, if scum is stupid. I've been nk'ed as town, like, once... and that was because scum was dumb.

I'm more a target for mislynches than nk's by far.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #48) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:10 am

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In post 652, Zebulin wrote:
In post 644, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 634, curiouskarmadog wrote:

if you are voting someone, tell me why. I will assume that if you post after me asking for this and you dont explain (or restate) your vote/case that you dont really believe your case/vote and that is scummy.




MM? PIss? Zeb?


Will do after school. I want a tip lynch and am ok with a ploben (scummy), randomidget (gives us tons of insight on tip's alignment), or MonkeyMan (scummy) lynch in that order.


This post makes me think that Randomidget is town and Zebulin would like to either get tip lynched today or use Randomidget's flip to sell his lynch later.

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Post Post #657 (isolation #49) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:58 am

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In post 656, Zebulin wrote:
In post 655, House wrote:
In post 652, Zebulin wrote:
In post 644, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 634, curiouskarmadog wrote:

if you are voting someone, tell me why. I will assume that if you post after me asking for this and you dont explain (or restate) your vote/case that you dont really believe your case/vote and that is scummy.




MM? PIss? Zeb?


Will do after school. I want a tip lynch and am ok with a ploben (scummy), randomidget (gives us tons of insight on tip's alignment), or MonkeyMan (scummy) lynch in that order.


This post makes me think that Randomidget is town and Zebulin would like to either get tip lynched today or use Randomidget's flip to sell his lynch later.

VOTE: Zebulin


Of course I want to get tip lynched! I think he's scum! You want to lynch the people you think are scum, don't you?


Nah. This doesn't read like town selling a wagon at all. You look like scum trying to dispose of a threat.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #50) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:07 am

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In post 663, Kaboose wrote:
In post 648, House wrote:
In post 647, Kaboose wrote:
In post 641, House wrote:I refuse to put up with tip.

VOTE: tip

See you folks d2.


So you're admitting no chance that you're NKd?


What a scummy way to twist my post.

There's obviously a chance, if scum is stupid. I've been nk'ed as town, like, once... and that was because scum was dumb.

I'm more a target for mislynches than nk's by far.


I think I'd rather my townies be NK targets than mislynch targets...


Unfortunately, we can't pick who draws town role PM's.

If we could, I never would. :P
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Post Post #674 (isolation #51) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:39 am

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In post 673, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:& House as well.


Pretty happy with where my vote is.

If you really want me to move it, I can put it on you instead?
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Post Post #676 (isolation #52) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:42 am

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In post 675, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:That would be even worse.


Alright then, be happy with where I have my vote.

Join me too, if ya like.
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Post Post #678 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:50 am

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As a great philosopher once said, "You can't always get what you want."
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Post Post #698 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:48 pm

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In post 655, House wrote:
In post 652, Zebulin wrote:
In post 644, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 634, curiouskarmadog wrote:

if you are voting someone, tell me why. I will assume that if you post after me asking for this and you dont explain (or restate) your vote/case that you dont really believe your case/vote and that is scummy.




MM? PIss? Zeb?


Will do after school. I want a tip lynch and am ok with a ploben (scummy), randomidget (gives us tons of insight on tip's alignment), or MonkeyMan (scummy) lynch in that order.


This post makes me think that Randomidget is town and Zebulin would like to either get tip lynched today or use Randomidget's flip to sell his lynch later.

VOTE: Zebulin


What I was saying with this post is that I think you, as scum, are worried about tip being a threat later, and are moving against him now since he is vulnerable due to his atrocious behavior.

I also believe that you are using Random as a proxy to continue your salvo against him if you fail today.

I'm not a fan of lynching people that seem so obv scum on D1 simply because I fall into that category myself most of the time. I think it's much more productive to look into those who go after such easy targets.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #55) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:36 pm

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In post 699, Zebulin wrote:
"Easy targets" in this game are those who appear scummy.
Scum are more likely to appear scummy.


I fucking loled my pants at the infantile reasoning in this post.

If scum appeared scummy, D1 wouldn't have a track record of being mislynches.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #56) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:04 pm

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In post 702, Zebulin wrote:
In post 700, House wrote:
In post 699, Zebulin wrote:
"Easy targets" in this game are those who appear scummy.
Scum are more likely to appear scummy.


I fucking loled my pants at the infantile reasoning in this post.

If scum appeared scummy, D1 wouldn't have a track record of being mislynches.


The reason people use scumtells is because scum are more likely to scumtell than town.

Oh, scum are more likely to be town, so I should vote the towniest player in the game, so town I know he's town (so he must be scum!)
VOTE: Zebulin

VOTE: tip


Are you 7?

Serious question.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #57) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:11 pm

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This...

In post 702, Zebulin wrote:
Oh, scum are more likely to be town, so I should vote the towniest player in the game, so town I know he's town (so he must be scum!)
VOTE: Zebulin


is a direct misrep of

In post 698, House wrote:
I'm not a fan of lynching people that seem so obv scum on D1 simply because I fall into that category myself most of the time. I think it's much more productive to look into those who go after such easy targets.
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Post Post #707 (isolation #58) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:38 pm

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In post 706, Zebulin wrote:
I was actually being sarcastic in regards to this post:

In post 700, House wrote:
In post 699, Zebulin wrote:
"Easy targets" in this game are those who appear scummy.
Scum are more likely to appear scummy.


I fucking loled my pants at the infantile reasoning in this post.

If scum appeared scummy, D1 wouldn't have a track record of being mislynches.


Which was posted in direct support of 698, which I am certain you are aware of as it was only a couple posts before 700.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:00 pm

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In post 708, Zebulin wrote:
In post 707, House wrote:
In post 706, Zebulin wrote:
I was actually being sarcastic in regards to this post:

In post 700, House wrote:
In post 699, Zebulin wrote:
"Easy targets" in this game are those who appear scummy.
Scum are more likely to appear scummy.


I fucking loled my pants at the infantile reasoning in this post.

If scum appeared scummy, D1 wouldn't have a track record of being mislynches.


Which was posted in direct support of 698, which I am certain you are aware of as it was only a couple posts before 700.


Bolded line I was referring to. What I'm saying is it seems really counterintuitive to assume people who look scummy aren't scummy, and that the people who try to get scummy-looking people lynched are scummy. Shouldn't it be the other way around?


You'd think, wouldn't you?

Truth is, it is heavily dependent on playstyle. Some folks are just inherently scummy regardless of the color of their role PM. It's due to personality traits.

That's where it gets tricky. (Real) scum can easily sell scummy town for mislynches on D1. It gets harder to do as the game progresses.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #60) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:04 pm

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I don't see how Zebulin doesn't realize this stuff considering he's been playing longer than I have, but his posts feel genuine.

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Post Post #711 (isolation #61) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:08 pm

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In post 709, House wrote:
In post 708, Zebulin wrote:
In post 707, House wrote:
In post 706, Zebulin wrote:
I was actually being sarcastic in regards to this post:

In post 700, House wrote:
In post 699, Zebulin wrote:
"Easy targets" in this game are those who appear scummy.
Scum are more likely to appear scummy.


I fucking loled my pants at the infantile reasoning in this post.

If scum appeared scummy, D1 wouldn't have a track record of being mislynches.


Which was posted in direct support of 698, which I am certain you are aware of as it was only a couple posts before 700.


Bolded line I was referring to. What I'm saying is it seems really counterintuitive to assume people who look scummy aren't scummy, and that the people who try to get scummy-looking people lynched are scummy. Shouldn't it be the other way around?


You'd think, wouldn't you?

Truth is, it is heavily dependent on playstyle. Some folks are just inherently scummy regardless of the color of their role PM. It's due to personality traits.

That's where it gets tricky. (Real) scum can easily sell scummy town for mislynches on D1. It gets harder to do as the game progresses.


To add to this, allow me to say that there are scummy actions, and scummy motivation. Town can act scummy, but that doesn't make them scum.

Look for the scum motivation, regardless of how scummy (or towny) the action in itself may appear to be.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #62) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:20 am

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In post 714, Zebulin wrote:House: You're totally right. I need to reevaluate my reads. However,tip has scummy motivation like active lurking and strawman defenses on top of being scummy (as pointed out by Kaboose), so I'm not changing my vote.


You don't know what scum motivation is.

Active lurking and strawman defenses are actions, thus by definition they cannot be motives.

Motives drive actions, actions do not define motives.

You are so hung up on what your eyes see that you don't care about what he might want to accomplish.

Kaboose looks far more interesting to me.
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Post Post #719 (isolation #63) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:14 am

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In post 716, Zebulin wrote:
House: Why does Kaboose look interesting?


I thought you'd never ask!

In post 296, Kaboose wrote:
In post 287, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You think effort is indicative of alignment?


I think D1 is a crap shoot and everyone's main goal should be to rid the game of useless people and keep a hold of those trying to try.


Advocating policy lynches - this kind of tactic allows scum to avoid suspicion by hiding behind the policy lynch instead of defending their stance after the flip.

In post 306, Kaboose wrote:That would go against what I'm looking for D1.

Let's lynch house or tip today.

Ploben we can think about tomorrow?



Attempting to redirect the wagon off of ploben without actually committing himself to a read of them. It's not damning on its own, but worth considering if ploben is lynched and flips scum.

In post 480, Kaboose wrote:Oh snap, didn't know it's been that long since my last post. Catching up today.


There's not even an attempt at an excuse as to why he was kept away from the game (especially since he was posting in other games here on the site) , which is far more implicit in my mind than posting mindless prod dodges, because prod dodges still garner attention.


In post 483, Kaboose wrote:I agree 100% about policy lynch on D1.


Already addressed my concerns RE: policy lynches. This is twice that he has posted in support of them.

In post 647, Kaboose wrote:
In post 641, House wrote:I refuse to put up with tip.

VOTE: tip

See you folks d2.


So you're admitting no chance that you're NKd?



And this blatant twisting of my post threw all kinds of red flags that fuelled my decision to review his ISO.

In post 663, Kaboose wrote:
In post 648, House wrote:
In post 647, Kaboose wrote:
In post 641, House wrote:I refuse to put up with tip.

VOTE: tip

See you folks d2.


So you're admitting no chance that you're NKd?


What a scummy way to twist my post.

There's obviously a chance, if scum is stupid. I've been nk'ed as town, like, once... and that was because scum was dumb.

I'm more a target for mislynches than nk's by far.


I think I'd rather my townies be NK targets than mislynch targets...



^ How does this come from a town mindset? Either a player is town, or they're scum. There are no qualifiers that justify lynching town because "they're not town ENOUGH". Lynching ANY town is pro-scum because it reduces our chances to win.

In post 713, Kaboose wrote:Hey so there's this person in this game who comes on and posts 5 posts in a row, calls a bunch of people names(usually in the form of insults), acts like he should be allowed to live without giving any reason as to why he should be left alive, and even asked for people's addresses(probably so he could find their house and NK them easier once we mislynch town), also this person has quite easily been the most useless person in this game and is absolutely NOT trying to solve the game but rather trying to figure out ways to make votes on his wagon disappear to other wagons.

That person should be lynch. Because he'll be alive D2, and you'll really want to lynch him then because there will be less for him to hid behind and then you'll be thinking to yourself "damnit you know we could have done this yesterday"


And he's still campaigning for a policy lynch, participating in much the same tactics as tip, albeit to a lesser degree.


Aggression & ridicule, both tip & Kaboose participated in. The difference between the two is that Kaboose has been manipulative as well. THAT is scum motivation.
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Post Post #720 (isolation #64) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:17 am

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In post 718, Slandaar wrote:We have 17 hours. You have had your fun messing about now everyone vote Midget.

Does anyone think he is town? anybody? then lynch.


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Post Post #732 (isolation #65) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:37 am

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In post 721, Slandaar wrote:I would very much appreciate it if you voted Midget with me today house. I like your kaboose case somewhat but need to think about things properly.


I'll give the stuff about midget another read. I've barely been following this thread.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #66) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:40 am

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In post 731, Slandaar wrote:12 hours...

Everyone please just vote midget.


Since time is an issue, please post a link or quote if there's anything specific you think I should read IRT midget.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #67) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:46 am

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VOTE: randomidget

Screw it, there's your midget vote. It's purely compromise, as I am reading ploben and Kaboose as scum.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #68) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:57 am

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In post 736, pisskop wrote:Why didn't you vote for Plob oif he is your scumread? He's got just as viable a wagon.


Because ploben is the weaker of my two scumreads, and Slandaar is a strong town read.

I'm willing to see where that goes.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #69) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:00 pm

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In post 753, Zebulin wrote:It's actually L-2, just reread, but I think House would change his vote back to his top scumread.


Quite true. wagons didn't seem to have much movement, so I hopped partially to get discussion going.

I'll be glad to hammer ploben.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #70) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:02 pm

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In post 753, Zebulin wrote:It's actually L-2, just reread, but I think House would change his vote back to his top scumread.


If you were intending to hammer ploben, why didn't you cast your vote when you saw he was only at L-2?
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Post Post #761 (isolation #71) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:08 pm

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In post 703, Cheery Dog wrote:

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-11 19:13:20)


Reminder.

ploben, you have 1 hour to claim.

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Post Post #762 (isolation #72) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:09 pm

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In post 703, Cheery Dog wrote:

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-11 19:13:20)


Reminder.

ploben, you have 1 hour to claim.

Intent to hammer.


EBWOP
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Post Post #763 (isolation #73) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:10 pm

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(and I am only giving 1 hour to allow time for brief discussion after the claim if it is warranted)
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Post Post #765 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:18 pm

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In post 764, Zebulin wrote:
In post 762, House wrote:
In post 703, Cheery Dog wrote:

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-11 19:13:20)


Reminder.

ploben, you have 1 hour to claim.

Intent to hammer.


EBWOP

In post 763, House wrote:(and I am only giving 1 hour to allow time for brief discussion after the claim if it is warranted)


Why 1 hour?

I'll be at the computer in 5, I can hammer then if you're not at the keyboard. If I'm lying about this then lynch me tomorrow. We have 9 hours.


I already answered that because I figured folks might wonder. 8 hours should be enough time for discussion after the claim, if one comes.

I'm here for the evening, and I have an alarm set on my cell. ploben isn't skating.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:35 pm

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In post 786, ploben wrote:House?

Yep.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:36 pm

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Post Post #793 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:42 pm

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In post 792, pisskop wrote:Is that hammer? because fucking house is not allowed to be in hammerer's slot ever again if it is.


Bullshit. It was too fucking close to the end of the day to be playing games with the claim. < 8 hours to deadline is not the time to throw down a crumb and pray. That's the time to lay your cards on the table and make scum do their own work.

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Post Post #803 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:18 pm

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In post 800, Zebulin wrote:ploben, the refusal to claim was really, really stupid.

House thought you would never claim.

(He could still be scum BSing right now anyway)


Why are you speaking for me?

You have no idea what I was thinking.
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Post Post #807 (isolation #79) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:24 pm

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In post 805, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 792, pisskop wrote:Is that hammer? because fucking house is not allowed to be in hammerer's slot ever again if it is.


if he hadnt have hammered, I would have.

does that make me scummy too?


Why do you think he is calling me scummy?
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Post Post #837 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:51 pm

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In post 800, Zebulin wrote:ploben, the refusal to claim was really, really stupid.

House thought you would never claim.

(He could still be scum BSing right now anyway)


This post smells like scum.

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Post Post #903 (isolation #81) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:39 am

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Zebulin and Boonskiies sittin in a tree

s-c-u-m-m-i-n-g
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Post Post #904 (isolation #82) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:40 am

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Nah.... more like Zeb & pisskop.

pisskop avoids scumreading Boonskiies for a SaF hammer, and he's been appeasey as hell the entire game.
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Post Post #924 (isolation #83) » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:31 pm

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In post 922, Randomnamechange wrote:Why did I listen to people?
For the record I'm a one shot vig. I shot zeb.


I've had scum make that same post after NK'ing me.

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Post Post #925 (isolation #84) » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:42 pm

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Now that I'm done being reactionary...

In post 904, House wrote:
pisskop avoids scumreading Boonskiies for a SaF hammer, and he's been appeasey as hell the entire game.


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Post Post #940 (isolation #85) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:17 am

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In post 939, Kaboose wrote:
In post 914, pisskop wrote:tip should maybe start participating


Tip was lynched, why does he need to start participating?


As much as I'd love to scumread pisskop, the post you quoted doesn't make sense coming from him.

It looks more like inattentive town to me.
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Post Post #941 (isolation #86) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:18 am

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Oh yeah, and I was voting him wasn't I?

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #977 (isolation #87) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:23 am

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In post 957, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Scum hard bus all the time. There is still a unaccounted for night kill, if random is indeed the vig, that's all that matters. The only reason anyone should be voting for anyone other than random is if there's a good reason there's not two night kills last night, which there's not. Therefore, random is scum.


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Post Post #978 (isolation #88) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:26 am

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In post 974, pisskop wrote:Which is why House jumped ship on Plob. Because he saw his unannounced buddy was going to bite dust.


Stop being an idiot. I bring the hammer down routinely as town.
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Post Post #981 (isolation #89) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:37 am

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You're putting in a lot of work to manipulate my actions.

Looking less like derpy town and more like manipulative scum every time you do it.
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Post Post #982 (isolation #90) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:37 am

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Manipulate = misrep.
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Post Post #983 (isolation #91) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:37 am

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Fuck it, town deserves to lose if they're going to follow dipshits.

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Post Post #987 (isolation #92) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:24 am

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In post 984, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Your play hasn't been the most pro-town House, especially self voting.


No shit Sherlock, my town game never is.

Want to tell us how wet water is, too?
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Post Post #989 (isolation #93) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:28 am

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In post 988, Ponystar17 wrote:Intent to hammer: House
My reasons are doubtless ones you won't agree with, BBT, but I'm sheeping you.


Nah, you're not getting it that easily.

UNVOTE:

Feel free to L-1 one me for a claim, though.
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #94) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:40 pm

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In post 995, curiouskarmadog wrote:HOUSE AND MONKEY

answer the questions.

did either of you target Zeb last night?

also...NO ONE GETS LYNCHED UNTIL EVERYONE ANSWERS THIS QUESTION


Nope.

I can't even find my role pm, so I'm assuming I'm VT.

For those of you who were dying for a claim.
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #95) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:45 am

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In post 1012, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 983, House wrote:Fuck it, town deserves to lose if they're going to follow dipshits.

VOTE: House

Everybody should be voting House.


At least you quoted a relevant post.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #96) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:56 pm

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VOTE: Boonskiies
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #97) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:15 pm

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In post 978, House wrote:
In post 974, pisskop wrote:Which is why House jumped ship on Plob. Because he saw his unannounced buddy was going to bite dust.


Stop being an idiot. I bring the hammer down routinely as town.
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #98) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:20 pm

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Actually, didn't Monkey hammer?
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #99) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:20 pm

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In post 1083, Boonskiies wrote:Friendly neighbor 1 shot.


Really? So how did you target someone?
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #100) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:25 pm

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Thanks for the game all, and thanks to Cheery Dog for moderating. :)
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #101) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:23 am

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In post 24, Randomnamechange wrote:VOTE: boonskies
I had forgotten that game zeb -_-
I will also hop to house if a wagon forms. He still scares me.


lulz.
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #102) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:32 pm

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Why would I have kept my shot instead of protecting a mason? That makes no sense.

Wolfie was the towniest player in the game on top of being confirmed town, she was the obvious NK choice (which is why I argued against killing her in the scum PT)

Leaving a town as hell Mason out to dry like that would be stupid.
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #103) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:49 pm

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In post 1120, Cheery Dog wrote:Because none of that was this game?


And then there's that.
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