Mini 1742: game over

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #41 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:08 am

Before we even start playing this game I'm just gonna say out loud and in bold:

Bells is really good at bussing. Like, "Why would he even vote his partner there, he didn't even have to" style bussing. Do not townread him.

Now if I die in like 2 minutes and he wins again it'll be your fault

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #42 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:11 am

In post 10, A Simple Plan wrote:Fuck me, I'm gonna confuse Taly and Talah way too much this game.

VOTE: Johnny

You know why.

Can't say I remember our last game but I'll just say this is probably fair.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #43 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:39 am

Man y'all talked a lot while I wasn't here. talah get less wordy, I had to stop myself from skimming.

VOTE: Wickan first post was shit. Others should vote here as well.

@talah how often are you accused of going too hard too fast? (teehee) Also don't say butthurt it makes you look 13

@Frozen are you an alt? Am I allowed to ask that? Ignore this if I'm not.

@Taly why Bells, talah, and Frozen specifically?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #45 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:47 am

Neato. What about talah's tone reads scummy to you?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #48 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:50 am

Then vote with me baby

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #51 (isolation #5) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:13 am

Vote Wickan, you're not doing that yet.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #54 (isolation #6) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:27 am

woops new page

In post 50, Taly wrote:First, what do you think about RC townreading FA with his vote still there?

Happens. Is there something scummy in there or does it just look funny to you?

In post 50, Taly wrote:What do you think about FA and talah's back and forth?

Frozen took that pressure really well for someone relatively new. talah's stretching. Don't have much of a read on either but if anything Frozen makes me nervous.

In post 52, Frozen Angel wrote:I can't understand the whole case against Wickan, explain more.

*sees someone clearly trying to move out of RVS

"woah buddy quit trying so hard"

garbage.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #56 (isolation #7) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:35 am

You don't act like a person who just started playing

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #60 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:41 am

In post 57, Taly wrote:What do you think about FA's vote on Wickan?

Same as yours, too easy. Not gonna fight it right now though because I want this wagon.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #68 (isolation #9) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:55 am

Titus is here.

1. Decently sure Bells is a boy

2. I don't see Bells as a malicious town voter, I see an RVS that hasn't moved yet. Twisting it and making it look evil just looks silly.

3. I pointed out Wickan's

first

post, not the one you're referring to.

So is there any more to this Bells case of yours or are you just trying really hard to end day one?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #71 (isolation #10) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:43 am

In post 70, RadiantCowbells wrote:Somewhat like someone else who is being FoSed in this game for being disorganized.

Eh? Who?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #73 (isolation #11) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:59 am

There's no Zoboomafoo in this game, just checked

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #81 (isolation #12) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:04 pm

Ok Wickan let's explore this unhelpful and anti-town behavior and why I should vote it.

Town Bells votes Frozen in RVS. Town Bells then sees a Frozen argument and says "Frozen looks town right thurr." Seemingly having forgotten where his vote is.

Scum Bells votes Frozen in RVS. Scum Bells then has to comment on an argument to appear like he cares about the game, but keeps his vote on Frozen for mysterious nefarious reasons.

See why I don't care? I don't particularly see the scum motivation and y'all are real mad about it.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #84 (isolation #13) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:36 pm

As of post 35 I don't think anyone had expressed thinking Frozen was town yet. Am I wrong?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #89 (isolation #14) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:54 pm

The organization of that post is weirding me out.

Who's this

In post 87, Taly wrote:Are you really going to associate me with the person whose wagon I hopped on

targeted at and if it's a response to the quote above it then why is there a line?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #93 (isolation #15) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:26 pm

I mean it looks like a conclusion driven by confirmation bias, you can't see town doing that?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #95 (isolation #16) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:40 pm

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #102 (isolation #17) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:17 pm

In post 96, ICEninja wrote:Damn this game needs to slow down a bit.

Sorry baby I don't do slow.

In post 98, Frozen Angel wrote:@RC , its somehow not usual you. I think (with my little knowledge) you start a very angry wagon on someone at this stage of game ...

Where does this knowledge come from?

In post 101, RadiantCowbells wrote:And no, I want this.

VOTE: Titus

How much of this should I regard as that hatefuck of a relationship you have with Titus?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #107 (isolation #18) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:13 pm

I actually like your avatar. Don't you feel rude now?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #108 (isolation #19) » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:28 pm

tfw no one is here and Al think ur creepy

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #122 (isolation #20) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:51 am

In post 110, Taly wrote:Funny how the people who've played with me before are having a shitfest with each other while I'm busy 1v1ing someone in the corner.

I read this and wanted to say something, but I got nothing.

In post 110, Taly wrote:But his tone is different this game.... I want to look at him more closely.

Shall I pose?

In post 114, RadiantCowbells wrote:Uh, 0%.

So now's when you try to get other people to vote with you by saying like well thought out reasons and stuff

Oh and if last game is any indication Taly is probably town, btw.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #125 (isolation #21) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:17 pm

Phone posting so this is gonna be broken up. But really sorry.

In post 124, Taly wrote:Well, what was your feels and thoughts about it?

I'm wondering why you said it I guess? Looks vaguely like a call for help.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #126 (isolation #22) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:19 pm

In post 124, Taly wrote:What do you think of Ice and Wickan's push onto me?

I think they make sense from the "I haven't played with Scum Taly" point of view and you getting all worked up will only make it worse in their eyes. Calm down.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #129 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:22 pm

In post 124, Taly wrote:Do you understand the Titus push, because I'm not exactly... And I'm waiting for RC to recognize my existence.

Bells doesn't have anything good yet. That's why he's a non presence.

Titus is someone I disagree with a lot so I'm trying to hold judgment until she actually comes in here and explains herself.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #130 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:27 pm

In post 127, ICEninja wrote:Am I missing something there? This is triggering some SERIOUS daytalk paranoia

Good catch, but slips are usually not the answer.

@Titus you mix him up with someone else?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #132 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:00 pm

I mean guys the thread's been open for less than two days, is it the time to condemn people as lurkerscum?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #135 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:18 pm

Guys I just realized the lurkers are after me

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #136 (isolation #27) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:19 pm

In post 133, Taly wrote:1) Scum have daytalk for 3 days. This may not mean much, but typically - you'd think people who didn't post much or didn't post anything useful so far would be somewhat suspicious for having conversations in a scum PT.

Did we ever get confirmation on this?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #139 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:26 pm

That's annoying. We should have just not talked for three days

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #141 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:36 pm

SO I'M BORED

@Frozen your vote's on Wickan still. Why? Is it still pressure?

@Ice is weird behavior scummy? Is lurking scummy? Would lurking be less scummy without daytalk?

@Taly where's your head? are you a waiting person? Is no one currently caught up in the game worthy of your vote?

@Wickan does your Taly vote mean you think Taly and Ice are both scum, or that Taly is scum trying to buddy up with Ice? If either, why?

I've already got questions in the air for Bells and Titus. Taleh, Al, and Aspy are mia so blah.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #151 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:35 pm

In post 141, JohnnyFarrar wrote:@Ice is weird behavior scummy? Is lurking scummy? Would lurking be less scummy without daytalk?

Don't ignore me ICE

@Wickan I think where that falls apart in my head is that ICE doesn't really seem a hugely valuable buddy. At least not so far.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #160 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:45 pm

Why tho

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #165 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:01 pm

I voted him for his

first

post Titus. And that pressure is meaningless. (Especially against Bells.) Why is town any more likely to point out such an obvious dissonance between thought and vote?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #167 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:27 pm

Why is town more likely than scum to pressure Bells for voting a townread?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #171 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:46 pm

Not knowing your alignment makes that argument super convincing.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #184 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:11 pm

Can't really randomly converse til you're caught up but I'll be up for a while so lemme know when you're done~

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #187 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:32 pm

No I totally flaked that game. Wouldn't really take that as a representation of my scum play but that's definitely ego talking

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #193 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:41 pm

In post 191, talah wrote:
In post 188, RadiantCowbells wrote:I go for the big fish because they won't get lynched without me doing it personally.

Which is sort of the point I think. I don't think as town or scum it would be a good play to try to lolwagons Titus.

I've seen scum Bells do exactly this very recently.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #196 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:47 pm

And thus Ice was thawed with all the burning passion of Bells' sweaty keyboard

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #199 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:56 pm

I mean yeah there were no reads that I got from that whole thing, but I rarely find much to run with in those start-of-day-one-do-a-weird-thing-for-reads situations

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #206 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:11 pm

At some point you're just bragging, Frozen. How do you like Bells and Taleh now?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #208 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:18 pm

In post 204, Frozen Angel wrote:please consider this fact that English is my fourth language

This is bragging. (I'm teasing)

But really next time you don't recognize a word you should ask, because mixing up sorting and lynching was kind of a large mistake to make.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe it was an honest mistake for now because sorting isn't a super common term in that context, but I don't want you making a fatal mistake (or getting away with something scummy) because of something like this.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #215 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:07 am

Wait let's all just ask the same question a bunch -_-

I feel like we've hit a wall and won't get through it til Al talks, Titus can come up with reasons that make sense outside her oh-so-convincing "I know I'm town" perspective, or more people agree on lynching Wickan. Accurate?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #217 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:03 am

Yeah I'm basically in the same spot. My plan right now is waiting for Al to dazzle me and then pushing hard for Wickan when he inevitably doesn't.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #220 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:46 am

You gotta say the reasons sweetie.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #222 (isolation #45) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:49 am

2qwik4U

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #225 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:12 am

I meant

why is Bells scum?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #227 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:17 am

Oh fire away

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #234 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:41 am

In post 228, Titus wrote:
In post 225, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I meant
why is Bells scum?

Not un voting when she had a townread
Voting Wickan for shit reasons
Trying to create dissection between me Wickan and abr

Not unvoting with a townread would be annoying if anything were happening. As it stood it was early day one and I don't care. He could have just forgot. I forget where my vote is all the time.

I like people voting Wickan.

Not sure dissection means what I think it means, should rephrase.

In post 230, Wickan wrote:Well, 35 (the early FA townread) has been well covered.

70 also points how that he dislikes how quickly my wagon formed, a concern never mentioned again (similar to what Taly did). Nice way to look concerned that a wagon was scum driven without ever actually examining how or why that might've been so.

From then on, read his ISO. Most of it consists of either asserting Titus must be scum (not clear why, but apparently because Titus thinks RC is scum), claiming that he's obviously town because this is how he acts as town, and trying to get shots in on me. There's no productive scumhunting, no attempts to push on people (other than me), just meta assertions and unsubstantiated votes.

For the townread see above

Are you saying his concern seemed fake in 70?

The last thing is mostly the same stuff several people are guilty of (Titus, Al), they can't all be scum.

So I see the way the combination of these things might be upsetting to Wickan specifically, because a big part of what I'm liking about Bells is his agreeing with me about Wickan. The point on 70 is something I could get behind, though.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #235 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:47 am

In post 233, Frozen Angel wrote:I can see a weird connection between titus - wicon. or its just me being paranoid?

Only in the sense that they're arguing for the same things. Do you question some interaction between them?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #238 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:59 am

Frozen Angel wrote:the way titus says this wagon is so wrong.

the way they both try to push RC.

and post 230 was unexpected from wickon. it seems he started budding titus.

well move on It's just a feeling atm

I mean Titus and I have disagreed strongly in the last two games I've played with her so I just kind of expect that from both alignments, and of course Wickan's not gonna be into his own lynch so this situation makes a lot of sense to me. You're obviously not me though so I guess I get your paranoia.

Wickan wrote:
In post 234, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
Are you saying his concern seemed fake in 70?

If the concern was genuine, he's never, to the best of my knowledge, followed up on it at all. So yes, I'm going with fake.

Are you seeing that same level of fake in, say, my concern for the same thing?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #241 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:18 am

In post 60, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 57, Taly wrote:What do you think about FA's vote on Wickan?

Same as yours, too easy. Not gonna fight it right now though because I want this wagon.

I said this once

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #244 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:42 am

I love when I get to use myself as an example, especially when I'm not in hot water, because then I get to see people try to reason around why their suspect is scummy but I'm not. It's fun. The only difference I really see between the tell you're pulling from Bells and the one you're ignoring from me is that I talk more than he does.

ICEninja wrote:
FA wrote:
I can see a weird connection between titus - wicon. or its just me being paranoid?

Haven't I been saying this?

Taly and Frozen have both done the "does anyone else think ____" thing now, personal note.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #245 (isolation #53) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:31 am

Just noticed Al posted, is he always like this? Anyone else play with him before?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #247 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:41 am

Awesome -_-

How do you go about reading that?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #249 (isolation #55) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:57 am

Hey. No.

You have my attention. Use your words, tell me who to lynch and why.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #252 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:13 pm

In post 250, Taly wrote:You say that the Wickan wagon sucks

She's repeating what Titus has been saying, not stating her own opinion here

Titus wrote:
In post 247, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Awesome -_-

How do you go about reading that?

That is the dilemma of me and ABR. I go by warm tinglies or not.

sigh

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #255 (isolation #57) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:26 pm

Al can be a compromise lynch then, since he seems content with nonexistence.

Looking at the playerlist even without Titus, Al or Wick we can get this Wick lynch to happen. Bells is sympathetic, as is Taly. We just need Taleh to comment or Aspy to show up.

So Talah. Wassup.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #257 (isolation #58) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:29 pm

Oh snap

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #259 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:34 pm

Because he looks like scum. I didn't like the way he entered this game and now he's after easy targets. He talks around it, but he's throwing shade at Bells and Taly for shit that you (Titus) and I are also doing.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #260 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:35 pm

The implication (in my head) being you and I are scarier than those two so he doesn't want to mess

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #261 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:51 pm

This is where you say "Yes Johnny your reasons are so good and also you're handsome let's kill Wickan post haste"

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #264 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 262, ICEninja wrote:So what do we do about ABR? On one hand he's useless-lurking, but on the other it doesn't seem like the guy tends to contribute all that much ever. I suppose I could be content lynching him, but it feels like more of a policy lynch than lynching someone because they're probscum (like Wickan is).

It's just that. We've now got someone to burn if we get a late-day claim or something. Not worth wasting a day but safe to kill anyway. Players like this are perfect for vigs.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #265 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:11 pm

In post 228, Titus wrote:Trying to create dissection between me Wickan and abr

Titus I still don't know what this means. Use different words to say the same thing

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #266 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:15 pm

Also Taly that post I just quoted has some Scum Bells rationale in it

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #268 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:23 pm

Figured.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #274 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:54 pm

I really love the inevitable "Comment on other stuff" conversation that happens in every game. Also I'm home now if anybody wants to ask me stuff

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #277 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:27 pm

Bells seems to do that a lot, but I've only played in games with him where he's scum, so........

I don't put stock in associative tells day one, but don't see looking for them as something bad.

I don't necessarily have another suspect right now. Like, you're as safe a bet I can make for a day 1 vote, anyone else I would vote would be for much smaller stuff. As an example I have it in my head that Frozen was getting coached by her buddies earlier which is why she looked so good in that Talah exchange. On the flip side of that I feel like Talah's been a non-presence in a way that makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. All of these are insignificant compared to my thoughts on you right now though.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #279 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:12 pm

In post 175, ICEninja wrote:RC is pinging my scumdar for attempting to enforce his own meta. When I'm scum I always try to point out all the things I do as a specific alignment as a defense. It's a lousy defense because RC could actively be attempting to mimic his town meta in a game where many people are familiar with his play. Town RC would just be town RC and figure people would townread him because people know his meta.

@Bells Ice tried here, watchu think?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #281 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:13 pm

Maybe? I don't remember. Just remembered this has been brought up before

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #282 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:15 pm

Nvm you posted like 9 things in response, not quoting them all

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #289 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:15 pm

Oh you

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #294 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:38 pm

You still catching up Talah?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #297 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:47 pm

It's Wick stuff I want so I'll wait

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #301 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:59 pm

I mean we have three weeks but this game is moving quick. I'm forming some pretty ugly gutreads on people and I'd like some cold hard flips to have in my heart before I get bored and start theorizing.

You're saying his initial push as in his vote on you page one? Or his switch to Bells later?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #306 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:19 pm

See I see the exact opposite because Bells looks like an easier target to me

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #307 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:21 pm

In post 304, Frozen Angel wrote:"FA you have my opinion on."

means?!

He has already stated his opinion on you

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #311 (isolation #77) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:38 pm

In post 309, talah wrote:
In post 306, JohnnyFarrar wrote:See I see the exact opposite because Bells looks like an easier target to me

And then Taly? I mean why wouldn't he pick his targets better or at least settle on one he thought he could push.

Wick wasn't a presence early, there was a full page in between voting Bells and voting Taly. Taly could have made himself a better target, his partners could have said to back off, he could have seen that not many were biting that sweet sweet Bells bait.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #315 (isolation #78) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:04 pm

talah wrote:Well it's probably just *partner* in this game rather than the plural. And that's a fuckton of if/then/maybes.
Dunno, I don't really like it. Also goes back to ABR's comment (somewhat surprisingly) that scum with daytalk would tend to be more talkative rather than less (whether I strictly agree with that or not ehhhhh).

I mean only one of those ifs has to be true, and those were only off the top of my head. Scum with daytalk might be more chatty, but only if they're actually online. The Taly vote looks like he logged on, saw Bells going nowhere, and adjusted accordingly.

In post 312, talah wrote:You really have that much of a scumread on him? I've seen you pushing but don't really remember the thrust of the argument that he's scum.

Big's not the word. It's a day one scumread and it's a good one. Better than anything else I've seen.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #317 (isolation #79) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:26 am

In post 316, Taly wrote:Who is this in reference to? Wickan or ABR?

Bruh the answer to this question is literally

on this page

, you gotta learn to not skim

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #325 (isolation #80) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:37 am

Why tho

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #327 (isolation #81) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:46 am

You think that's what Ice is doing now?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #420 (isolation #82) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:57 am

Take like one 16 hour nap and everyone decides to keep going without me

Titus I have several null reads you wanna beat me up?

In post 333, ICEninja wrote:Should I instead adopt a strategy where I completely ignore a player that gives me town vibes early on?

I love black and white thinking

I'm suddenly grateful for my ability to join a game without fucking over two more.

Titus was it last game that you replaced into and didn't read? Because I'm not seeing Taly scum at all compared to his last game.

Bells that whole irl situation sounds like it sucks

Guys all these townreads are gonna kill me stop

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #422 (isolation #83) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:59 am

Hey since we're doing lynch pools let's just say my vote isn't hitting Taly, Frozen. Will deadline vote Al and ASP, but that'd be boring. Everyone else is fair game though the only one I feel strongly about is Wick.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #424 (isolation #84) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:26 am

I mean good for you, but I'm not gonna take your greatness at your word. If you sheep your way to a victory here feel free to brag about it but nothing so far has been affected by you except a bunch of frustrated people voting you when they could be using their vote somewhere that actually matters.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #427 (isolation #85) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:34 am

I mean you've had more and are still on the table for a lynch to many of those but this conversation isn't going anywhere so you can go ahead and stop. You talking about games you've won with little effort is about as useful as Bells saying how right he often is.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #433 (isolation #86) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:57 am

Titus what happens when Ice flips town?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #439 (isolation #87) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:12 pm

In post 435, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Vote and see. We don't have all the answers but we've been playing this game a long time and have a lot of reasons for voting someone even if we don't verbalize them.

I might have voted right now but this just makes it feel creepy. Also I'm still holding the hope that Aspy or his replacement shows up and becomes my number 6 on Wick

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #441 (isolation #88) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:17 pm

Touché

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #446 (isolation #89) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:53 pm

I've decided I'm being stubborn and am now broadening my horizons.

In trying to think about this game without actually rereading because fuck that. I have most people in boxes in my head, but there are a couple I have no thoughts about.

What does anyone think about Talah? I got nothing.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #449 (isolation #90) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:08 pm

are you just super free with townreads then?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #452 (isolation #91) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:13 pm

In post 448, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Talah "I don't have time to answer right now" then proceeds to write a wall the size of the entire mini normal queue thread.

This doesn't sound like town but you called him derptown

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #454 (isolation #92) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:20 pm

Then why'd you point it out?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #456 (isolation #93) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:23 pm

No really why'd you point it out?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #457 (isolation #94) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:37 pm

Guess we're done with that conversation? Boring. Who else is around?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #459 (isolation #95) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:12 pm

Taly you just seem sort of upset this game. Let's make boxes.

Box 1 is "I'm not gonna vote these people today"

Box 2 is "I could vote these people right now"

Who are in those boxes for you? I don't really need reasons, just names.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #478 (isolation #96) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:35 pm

Explain why to me slow

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #484 (isolation #97) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:49 pm

Make you some boxes baby

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #490 (isolation #98) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:04 pm

In post 485, Wickan wrote:Not Voting:
Johnny
, Titus, Albert
Could Be Talked Into Voting, But I Wouldn't Be Happy:
ICE
, Frozen,
Talah

Happy To Vote: Taly, RC
I Have No Thoughts: A
Simple Plan

Green = you and I agree

Bells, Al and Titus are in the "you could probably talk me into it" thing, not really happy to vote anyone but you

Not only will I not vote Taly or Frozen but I'll make a lot of noise the entire time it's happening

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #496 (isolation #99) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:09 pm

In post 492, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 489, Wickan wrote:
In post 488, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I don't like how Wickan is approaching the game trying to find cracks, it feels like he's patting around the dark for the path of least resistance to a mislynch.

I honestly don't know what this means.

Johnny do you know what this means or should I retain the services of an alien interpreter?

I got it. Should I like rephrase it for you?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #497 (isolation #100) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:12 pm

In post 491, Titus wrote:
In post 488, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I don't like how Wickan is approaching the game trying to find cracks, it feels like he's patting around the dark for the path of least resistance to a mislynch.

That's what Ice is doing. Wickan is being clear about his reads. Ice says someone make a case. Wickan is saying here I am deal with it.

This is my problem with your Ice musings, I'm guilty of all the same shit

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #506 (isolation #101) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:19 pm

Not Titus OR Bells? You think that's town v town?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #510 (isolation #102) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:22 pm

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #518 (isolation #103) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:43 pm

You two should make out.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #520 (isolation #104) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:46 pm

The Ice train only has like 3 people on it from what I can see but good for you.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #521 (isolation #105) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:50 pm

Also because of the way I tend to talk to people ISOing me should be a blast

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #523 (isolation #106) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:01 pm

I'm laughing

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #525 (isolation #107) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:08 pm

Now I'm rolling my eyes

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #529 (isolation #108) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:16 pm

VOTE: Aspy why not

talah wrote:What is that avatar anyway?

Spoiler:

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #531 (isolation #109) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:20 pm

youtube tage is broken fuck

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #532 (isolation #110) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:21 pm

So my conscience will be clear

Spoiler:

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #536 (isolation #111) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:48 pm

Should state right now that if Aspy is the person I remember he is he's super easy to vote

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #538 (isolation #112) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:17 pm

the latter

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #539 (isolation #113) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:19 pm

or maybe I just really wanted to vote him? Memory is vague

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #547 (isolation #114) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:21 pm

What time zone are you in Frozen? I want to hear more from you but you get on at the weirdest times

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #551 (isolation #115) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:37 pm

here to dispute what Titus just said

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #554 (isolation #116) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:41 pm

your version of 'townies' is maybe different than mine

also now I'm tipsy so if anyone wants to take advantage~

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #558 (isolation #117) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:52 pm

I just became attracted to you but I'm also confused

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #559 (isolation #118) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:56 pm

Aspy do you have a scum Al game to compare this behavior to?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #562 (isolation #119) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:02 pm

Srs tho let's lynch Wick

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #564 (isolation #120) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:22 pm

I mean I don't either but if you're having a weird "I'm just gonna sheep Johnny" stroke I'll be ok with it right now

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #566 (isolation #121) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:58 pm

Frozen gets it

JohnnyFarrar · Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:03 pm

I agree that he should read

JohnnyFarrar · Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:13 pm

Thought you were Frozen fora hot minute

JohnnyFarrar · Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:31 pm

Y'all are adorable

Gimme thoughts on Talah and Wick if you're still awake Frozen and Bells

JohnnyFarrar · Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:44 pm

I mean that's the reason I'm worried about Talah, I don't particularly have a read on them either. should I be worried or?

JohnnyFarrar · Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:55 pm

I mean probably here. Have you seen my post count? What the fuck else could I be doing?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #586 (isolation #127) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:19 am

Or don't

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #588 (isolation #128) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:33 am

Not sure he's actually won over. Not sure what he's after

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #603 (isolation #129) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:35 pm

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #605 (isolation #130) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:31 pm

Got bored switched vote. Totally still on board for Wick

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #608 (isolation #131) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:03 pm

You'd have to convince me on Titus, prolly not.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #630 (isolation #132) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:02 pm

I can articulate it you just don't agree, shush

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #637 (isolation #133) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:27 pm

I'm here. Gamestate is kind of boring right now.

Who we lynching?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #641 (isolation #134) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:24 pm

VOTE: Wickan

Bells, Taly, you just wanna lynch Wick right now?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #644 (isolation #135) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:05 pm

In post 643, ICEninja wrote:I don't see the harm in giving SP another day to catch up before we hammer.

I mean sure but he's not gonna. A claim from Wick is worth waiting for though.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #646 (isolation #136) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:36 pm

I mean I think you're the only one that's gonna hammer so

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #650 (isolation #137) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:35 pm

Teehee

JohnnyFarrar · Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:52 pm

What's a WK? Also let's lynch Wickan first and then when he flips scum we'll do your thing with all the time it gives us

JohnnyFarrar · Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:21 pm

Not on board. They way we've avoided Wickan is actually starting to creep me out.

JohnnyFarrar · Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:32 pm

I don't think buddying is a thing that happens very often. I don't like Titus' defense of Wickan, but I rarely like the way Titus approaches the game at all, scum or otherwise.

JohnnyFarrar · Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:33 pm

In post 669, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Not on board.
The
way we've avoided Wickan is actually starting to creep me out.

Also edited so it makes sense grammatically

JohnnyFarrar · Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:57 pm

"Charm?"

Guess we know what kinda girl you are now

and I'm saying she hasn't done anything out of the ordinary for me.

JohnnyFarrar · Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:38 am

you tell me miss 'slave to bad boy bells' =P

JohnnyFarrar · Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:04 am

In post 685, Titus wrote:
In post 673, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 669, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Not on board.
The
way we've avoided Wickan is actually starting to creep me out.

Also edited so it makes sense grammatically

Why not reconsider you Wickan townread and realize that it's a scum driven wagon?

I mean it can't really be scum driven if I'm driving it.

JohnnyFarrar · Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:44 am

Ok Titus

Al what is this now?

JohnnyFarrar · Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:49 am

True. Carry on

JohnnyFarrar · Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:16 pm

What

do

you like?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #724 (isolation #148) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:16 pm

Less on board with Taly than Titus. What else you got?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #729 (isolation #149) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:36 pm

Nope. Heavy meta reads and picking on word usage is an interesting but unconvincing way to vote, and Titus hasn't really done anything this game that looks scummy. Unless you think you have something?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #731 (isolation #150) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:43 pm

The boy looks like scum. He pushes Bells for things that other people (Example: Me) are also doing, but talks around it when I bring up similarities. He looks like he's doing the Bells vote-park thing right now, finding people he knows he can vote but probably won't get lynched. His attitude right now is a perfect indication of that: Unwilling to vote fucking anyone.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #754 (isolation #151) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:56 am

It's that filthy mouth if yours

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #781 (isolation #152) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:47 pm

This hand is stressing me out and the stakes literally couldn't be lower.

I'd lynch almost anyone over Taly if that's what it's coming down to. If he

is

scum then he's somehow developed an entirely different scum game in less than a month, which is not something I'm willing to believe. I'll apologize later if I'm wrong but right now that's my most confident read.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #783 (isolation #153) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:16 pm

Half the reason I don't want Titus dead is because if she flips town what the fuck was the point

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #786 (isolation #154) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:54 pm

There's no reason this Wick wagon shouldn't be happening. It has enough stated support.

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:43 am

Who's the scum driving it? I'm awful trusting

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #792 (isolation #156) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:30 am

In post 791, Frozen Angel wrote:Johny whats your read on taly and titus

Taly is playing entirely different from his scum game. If he's scum he deserves to win because the 180 he's pulled here is stark.

Titus is an outspoken person who thinks entirely different from me which is useful. I haven't seen anything from her that screams scum so right now I'd rather have her here keeping me engaged than dead and providing nothing.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #793 (isolation #157) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:04 am

In post 791, Frozen Angel wrote:RC tunnel on titus actually give me a good feeling. I saw RC as scum likes to branch and bonde to find a suitable place to vote

Disagree on this, I've seen him latch on to one person unmovingly as scum as well (hell that one person

was Titus

last time)

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #795 (isolation #158) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:00 am

I'm gonna say she was saying "Quit bitching and actually do something" in her own, much nicer way.

Also yeah pretty sure I've been in entire games shorter than my ISO in this one

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #801 (isolation #159) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:47 am

In post 796, Wickan wrote:
Claim: Hider

GROSS

Is a Hider a Normal role?

p-edit: Frozen beat me to it

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #803 (isolation #160) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:51 am

UNVOTE:

regardless this is easy as shit to confirm so we discuss rather confirming is worth it.

I don't think so, I'm not brave enough to test another read right now. Anyone smarter than me have a plan for this situation?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #804 (isolation #161) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:52 am

In post 797, Titus wrote:
In post 793, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 791, Frozen Angel wrote:RC tunnel on titus actually give me a good feeling. I saw RC as scum likes to branch and bonde to find a suitable place to vote

Disagree on this, I've seen him latch on to one person unmovingly as scum as well (hell that one person
was Titus
last time)

Bonus, my read on RC scum was right.

Why do you think I'm not voting you?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #807 (isolation #162) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:55 am

I know it is, but should we? If we decide he hides behind a townie that's two townies dead tonight.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #809 (isolation #163) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:59 am

Can't be sure of any of the other roles in the game

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #814 (isolation #164) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:05 am

I mean the only way to confirm him is for us to decide his target, ostensibly dooming a townie should we be wrong.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #817 (isolation #165) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:09 am

So I'm thinking we have him hide behind the biggest question marks, people like ASP and Al, maybe Bells, and then we decide another lynch?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #829 (isolation #166) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:23 am

I'd rather we just outright state who he's hiding behind. I don't completely believe the claim so at worst we lose two people we were thinking about lynching anyway. Anything else either confirms or condemns people.

p-edit: OK nvm I misread what you meant by pool. I'd take Taly and Frozen out of that pool and add Al

double p: Just don't with the protecting. It complicates things.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #832 (isolation #167) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:33 am

It confirms you and someone else. It forces the scum to nightkill someone we choose vs someone they choose. Both of these are good things

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #834 (isolation #168) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:42 am

I mean it also invites scum to play this really dangerous game is chicken if they decide not to kill your target which has been interesting in the past

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #835 (isolation #169) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:42 am

Game *OF chicken #phonepost

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:31 am

I mean that's equally balanced by how fucking terrible the role is to claim, it's basically a death sentence in itself.

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:02 pm

In post 841, Titus wrote:
In post 831, Wickan wrote:
In post 829, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I'd rather we just outright state who he's hiding behind. I don't completely believe the claim so at worst we lose two people we were thinking about lynching anyway. Anything else either confirms or condemns people.

But that's a recipe for a surefire death. There's no way that helps town.

Agreed. You should have a pool of 3 names.

Not agreed. Breathing room for him means he might be living unconfirmed for a while and gives scum breathing room to shoot who they want because

odds

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:25 pm

Makes sense. I'm actually fine with that pool as well.

Does that mean those 3 are not to be lynched? Who else is there for lynching?

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:37 pm

for the record I have no discernible read on talah

VOTE: Bells

I'm actually weirdly ok with both this and the fact that our pool plans are missing myself, Taly and Frozen

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:43 pm

So help me Al I'm starting to like you

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:50 pm

Oh I will. Having a plan RE Wickan just makes me want you or Bells flipped so your little spats become less of a distraction, though. I'd prefer that to ASPy. Better for reading. I'd vote Bells over Titus because Bells is doing less.

JohnnyFarrar · Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:55 pm

talah you always seem vaguely in the background and it makes me nervous. That's why I'm hesitant to read you.

I like that so many of us are used to being NK'd super early, makes being scum seem like a nightmare in this playerlist.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #869 (isolation #177) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:00 pm

Where are we votes-wise? Can I be hammer?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #875 (isolation #178) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:08 pm

Thought he had more. Oh well.

VOTE: ASP

So to be clear, if ASP gets lynched Wickan will be hiding among Talah, Ice, and Al.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #880 (isolation #179) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:13 pm

God damn you're telling the truth. Fuck.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #883 (isolation #180) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:15 pm

is that from some particular townread on talah?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #887 (isolation #181) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:19 pm

hey fucker you killed me before the first day ended last time I'll hear no bitching

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #894 (isolation #182) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:24 pm

In post 889, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 886, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes, thank you.

Let's give scum more incentives to N1 me.

I haven't been N1ed in enough games recently, no siree.

If you're off about Titus, they won't NK you. They need you to keep your tunnel.

and also the opposite wifom wifom wifom

Bells calm down I'm wary enough of Titus, she's one of the few people in my "Don't let them make it to lylo" bucket

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #896 (isolation #183) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:25 pm

Al I'm physically convulsing what are you doing

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #902 (isolation #184) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:35 pm

Hey Bells what do you think about the hider pool?

Also what do you think about ASP?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #904 (isolation #185) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:40 pm

and aspy?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #906 (isolation #186) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:49 pm

Careful with that persecution complex baby, you doing want to live a life of perceived slights

What do you want to know Taly?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #907 (isolation #187) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:51 pm

Not correcting the grammar in my throwaway jokes, fuck you autocorrect

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #911 (isolation #188) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:18 pm

In post 908, Taly wrote:

Are you referring to the persecution part to me? What do you mean exactly? (I'm not offended or anything)

Yes. People skim, it happens. It's not meant as an insult to you, you'll notice it happens with anyone who makes real big posts (Frozen's catch-up is a good example) so just work on being more succinct. I get responses and I don't even storm shit right half the time

1)
Is the 3-pool the people the hider is going to hide behind? If so, why is SP wagoned, if not - why is RC not wagoned?

I'm not 100% sure if I grasp this concept.

There's a pool of three people Wick will hide behind. He chooses one of those to hide behind, tells us which of the three the next day if he lives. This cuts the chances of scum getting the double kill to 1/3 and gives us a small lynch pool if he dies because he targeted scum.

That pool is currently the people closest to getting lynched besides Wick, so Asp is currently in it. Bells (or Talah? Haven't finished arguing) will replace Aspy if we lynch him

P-edit: ANSWERS

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #912 (isolation #189) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:20 pm

Also Wick pulling out a 'hiding' joke from 400 posts ago is plenty crumb enough for me, unless you want to tell me he was planning his fake claim 20 pages ago?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #914 (isolation #190) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:23 pm

Something something no content

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #916 (isolation #191) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:43 pm

In post 878, Wickan wrote:
In post 865, talah wrote:

Wickan
, did you crumb your role at all?

I did not. However, I did laugh hysterically when I read FA's 421

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I have no objections to the suggested hider pool. I also suggest that talah replace ASP if that's the eventual lynch.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #933 (isolation #192) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:22 pm

I think Wickan did?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #939 (isolation #193) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:59 am

You are wrong, his scum meta contains the same shit.

Hider pool is happening. We're not letting claimed hider stumble around in the dark, it makes the entire claim useless to us.

Why is Titus happening?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #943 (isolation #194) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:18 am

Plus Wickan is just probably town.

Seriously though why is Titus happening?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #945 (isolation #195) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:52 am

oh you

JohnnyFarrar · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:36 am

you two should make out

JohnnyFarrar · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:51 am

You guys can do that one without me. I can't believe Taly's scum game is this radically different from the last time I saw it.

JohnnyFarrar · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:54 am

Last game. The one Bells, Taly and Silver won as scum. Taly just clammed up in that game

JohnnyFarrar · Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:57 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=63741