i'll try to catch up asap
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for now UNVOTE:
In post 559, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 556, Frozen Angel wrote:Wow ! where did you find my snowman?!
I found Olaf lurking around BL0ODK1NG's wagon.
Olaf is currently wondering why Elsa is defend the BL0ODK1NG.
In post 567, RolePlay25 wrote:I mean this is simply such a strange observation I feel a desire to comment on it again.
If you have done a full reread of the game, what would be the idea that I have not "come at you directly"? Is it the fact that I have come at Bloodking direct? Assuming you share alignment with your alter ego, that would seem to be functionally similar in all relevant respects.
In post 574, RolePlay25 wrote:In post 570, Frozen Angel wrote:why are you twisting my word again?
although your hard tunnel on him was clearly scummy but I wasn't talking about it ... I was talking about myself.
Interesting. This makes no sense. I mislike clear nonsense.
In post 560, Frozen Angel wrote:your making too much noise about my slot . I don't like noises. come direct on me Roleplay.
Explain how I twisted your words in my post.
In post 580, RolePlay25 wrote:Is your alignment the same as Bloodking's? If so, for what earthly reason would anyone's read on you change? Catch-up is irrelevant. Perhaps it is a level of naiveté showing, but I feel no particular requirement or desire to partake in any rituals before I secure your death.
bji wrote:
Because when you make three lists it's easy to forget someone. What a weird thing to say though. "wow good point" about something on the level of a typo.
In post 557, Frozen Angel wrote:
post 263 : now everybody posting walls? why someone being in a hot water is a bad thing? you ever asked why people are pushing golden ?
Don't forget, you're posting walls too. It's what happens when you do a re-read of the thread and try to give your thoughts.
I never said someone being in hot water is a bad thing. I was pointing it out. It was a subtle attempt to get golden more engaged since he wasn't responding to the votes against him.
In post 584, RolePlay25 wrote:In post 582, Frozen Angel wrote:your saying you want to tunnel my slot to death base on ... ?
give me the reasons your so obsessed with this lynch
You state you have reread. I do believe I have explained this quite thoroughly. Either you have reread or you have not.
Cow and Dwlee, have you ceased benefiting your doubts already?
In post 587, RolePlay25 wrote:In post 585, Frozen Angel wrote:thx you just answered how I expected.
Good. Vote for yourself and die then.
In post 586, RolePlay25 wrote:Shall I produce some flash cards with smiley faces to communicate the sheer lack of content in her posts to you? It is not so hard to produce a very weak summary of events that occurred within a game. Especially one dominated by said faces and vague commentary (mostly about how she does not like the votes on her, apparently the primary focus of her reread).
In post 593, RolePlay25 wrote:Frozen Angel, each post you make in this thread provides us additional information about the identity of your partners. Each post you make provides us more and more information that will allow us to win the game. Please, keep posting. I am already learning a lot.
Already it is apparent that you wish to hard ride the lie that I voted Bloodking simply for activity level. I understand, you must formulate a defense of activity that was simply indefensible. You are not allowed to acknowledge your role is villainous. You are not allowed to wave the white flag and surrender. And I do admire the last ditch holding effort.
It is a last ditch holding effort though.
In post 602, RolePlay25 wrote:since I barely even saw a mention of supercool in your readthrough.
In post 605, RolePlay25 wrote:All that prevents you is you. Specifically, your fear. Your fear of me. With two votes on you, you are wetting yourself in your seat, terrified of what I am saying. Do you know why you are terrified? Because my words have a weight that you cannot possibly deny - the weight of truth. That truth is what you fear. You fear others being shown that truth, so you lash out, so you post smilies, so you attack like an angry dog. An angry poodle, I would say, one of the small ones.
In post 605, RolePlay25 wrote:Bloodking's entry to the game was awkward, and he was called out on this. Do you deny this is so?
Bloodking ceased playing the game shortly after that awkward entrance. Do you deny this is so?
Bloodking, upon being challenged to actually participate, produced a reads list that contained nothing resembling logic. Do you deny this is so?
Bloodking, upon being asked to defend that reads list, fled the game. Do you deny this is so?
In post 611, RolePlay25 wrote:In post 607, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 602, RolePlay25 wrote:since I barely even saw a mention of supercool in your readthrough.
to show how much you skimmed my post :
in first post :
post 42 : that was indeed a fast read list
post 80 : why are you so worried about it? I mean ... he is not a doctor, right?! your afraid of a WIFOM ?
post 83 :you think its just a waste of role or are you role fishing?!
post 100 : god bless me. are you seriously going down through this path?
post 217 : having no solid scum reads mean your avoiding danger of being under town pressure. which is highly scum motivated ...
second post :
post 233 : your speaking of preventing a mis lynch ?!!!! :O I mean a mis lynch?!!! he wasn't even close to the hammer point then.
post 399 : ha?!
An amazing seven posts. With commentary like "god bless me. are you seriously going down this path" and "ha". I don't know how I really could have said this was nothing. To be honest, most of it seems cribbed from the reasons I voted Supercool, making this even more fascinating when you state I am tunneling and doing nothing.
Was I not promised a vote from you? You threaten me and threaten me and threaten me with this action. Where is the vote? I am starting to feel your threats are empty bluster, designed to make me retreat.
In post 621, RolePlay25 wrote:In post 617, Frozen Angel wrote:I accused him of role fishing , omgus , being afraid of WIFOM , talking about miss lynch's and distancing
Yes, that is a viewpoint the content of his posts. I especially enjoy the part where you complain that finding people "scummy" because they find you "scummy" is a villainous behavior. It contrasts nicely with your entire previous page of doing nothing but that.
I accuse you of receiving a link to a private topic that contains several partners, a mission to murder the town, and an extreme discomfort with the idea of having to do so while already under significant threat.
In post 623, acryon wrote:In post 620, Frozen Angel wrote:TALK TO ME INSTEAD OF MAKING NOISE ....
Do you always play this...emotionally? You should understand that being so defensive is often viewed negatively by the town, so it is certainly not helping your case.
In post 626, Malakittens wrote:Shhh frozen clam down
RolePlay25 wrote:Fellow members of the town, there is two ways this can play out. The first is quite tiresome and trite. I make a "case". Frozen Angel attacks every single element of this case, because that is how it is supposed to play out. A good guy makes a case, if it is good enough the bad guy dies. She wants such. She desires such. She is actively seeking to attack my case, regardless of its contents. She argues that none of my points on Bloodking had merit, that they all boiled down to attacking him for lurking. For those of you who were there, you know this is not my case. For those of you who were not, read.
I prefer another method, perhaps this is from a bias that this site does not share. You read her posts, you see her raw need to latch onto a familiar framework of "town vs. scum" and you see how such framework she seeks places her as scum, and me as town. Like adults, like equals, we all make a judgment.
To me, it seems a waste of time to attempt to convince Frozen Angel she is a villain. She has known such since she replaced in. You know such by observation. Let us finish this.
In post 631, Malakittens wrote:In post 628, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 626, Malakittens wrote:Shhh frozen clam down
How can I when someone like him is trolling the shit out of this game?
I'm Town. your just so blind that you can't even consider it ...
Hey I called you town.
This guys probably town too so let's just move on please??
In post 630, bji wrote:
"Reasons". I promise I will explain at the appropriate time.
In post 635, bji wrote:However, as a quick explanation, I agree with RolePlay that your posts of "content" had more of the appearance of trying to deliver content than actually doing so. When Bloodking did it, I was willing to believe it was null. But when his replace-in does it too ... it's hard to believe that there's not something more to it.
In post 638, RolePlay25 wrote:I believe I have passed my "last warning". Where is your vote, to back up your accusations? Where is your vote, to back up your promises?
I see the new tactic is to claim I am making "noises" and am a troll.
Where is your vote on me, you coward? Do you fear the consequences of your own "last warning"? Do you fear what will happen when you have to admit you take me seriously?
In post 642, supercool898 wrote:And with FA never voting RP after her conditions for voting RP have been long since fulfilled, I do think she is our scum here.
VOTE: Frozen Angel
In post 648, supercool898 wrote:Don't you see? In your read of the thread youmusthave seen how he has pressured people again and again. This is his way of scum hunting and is a great reaction test. Your reactions have been horrendous and you are just digging your grave.
In post 654, RolePlay25 wrote:In post 641, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 638, RolePlay25 wrote:I believe I have passed my "last warning". Where is your vote, to back up your accusations? Where is your vote, to back up your promises?
I see the new tactic is to claim I am making "noises" and am a troll.
Where is your vote on me, you coward? Do you fear the consequences of your own "last warning"? Do you fear what will happen when you have to admit you take me seriously?
JERK
I was putting warnings there to force you stop trolling and make a streight move ... your reasons are absurd ... your trolling was absurd ... your pushing is absurd ...
How else could I force you to tell me those reads?!
So you wish to control my behavior through threats? Tell me, would such work on you if you were town? I think it would not.
It reeks of dishonesty and desperation.
In post 617, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 611, RolePlay25 wrote:In post 607, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 602, RolePlay25 wrote:since I barely even saw a mention of supercool in your readthrough.
to show how much you skimmed my post :
in first post :
post 42 : that was indeed a fast read list
post 80 : why are you so worried about it? I mean ... he is not a doctor, right?! your afraid of a WIFOM ?
post 83 :you think its just a waste of role or are you role fishing?!
post 100 : god bless me. are you seriously going down through this path?
post 217 : having no solid scum reads mean your avoiding danger of being under town pressure. which is highly scum motivated ...
second post :
post 233 : your speaking of preventing a mis lynch ?!!!! :O I mean a mis lynch?!!! he wasn't even close to the hammer point then.
post 399 : ha?!
An amazing seven posts. With commentary like "god bless me. are you seriously going down this path" and "ha". I don't know how I really could have said this was nothing. To be honest, most of it seems cribbed from the reasons I voted Supercool, making this even more fascinating when you state I am tunneling and doing nothing.
Was I not promised a vote from you? You threaten me and threaten me and threaten me with this action. Where is the vote? I am starting to feel your threats are empty bluster, designed to make me retreat.
I accused him of role fishing , omgus , being afraid of WIFOM , talking about miss lynch's and distancing
In post 664, bji wrote:For what it's worth, I've seen something like this before. I saw a scum player get so upset by being bussed in weird ways by her partners that she quit the game and was replaced. There were also players getting all up in arms about "leave the poor player alone, can't you see you're upsetting her". Turns out that I was applying strong pressure to her which was another of the reasons she replaced out. When she replaced, I figured I must have been wrong about her being scum, because I couldn't believe that someone would go off emotionally and then quit just because they're getting pegged as scum (and I guess not feeling like her scum partners were helping the situation), and I felt kind of guilty about it. So I reversed my vote on her; luckily my team mates carried the torch forward against her replace-in and lynched her. The slot was scum.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6674033
Not sure that's what's happening here ... but there are parallels ...
Also, mod, since you seem to be reading here ... can we get a vote count? I do not believe that Frozen is at L-2 or L-1 but I may have miscounted.
In post 708, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Frozen
Thought about it a bit, this is kind of self-meta but I did this same thing my first scum game. It was because of bussing as well but I will get to that if frozen flips scum.
In post 709, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 573, RolePlay25 wrote:Alas, my weapon in this mystery is not a machine gun, but a single scalpel - or but rather even one seventh of a scalpel.
Fair play. I'd still like to hear yourtownreads though - or will they depend on Frozen Angel's flip?
In post 583, bji wrote:Is that surprising, given that the wagon on Bloodking was there mostly because people didn't like his level of activity
Hey man, since when was BL0ODK1NG's wagon an activity wagon?
Anyway, TheCow and Dwlee99 unvoted before Frozen Angel's 'catch-up'.
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In post 604, acryon wrote:To be fair, while I don't think it's accurate to say you have focused almost soley on her slot theentiregame, you certainly have for at least the last 12+ pages or so, which would also make it disingenuous for you to pretend her claim is complete absurdity.
acryon playing the peace-maker.
Talk about a kicking a girl while she's down...![]()
In post 608, supercool898 wrote:TheCow was not making a random vote, but operating off the assumption that the first person to post is scum.
I still don't see it supercool898![]()
In post 613, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm asking again why are you so obsessed with lynching me?! all your reasons are based on his inactivity not his playing ...
The BL0ODK1NG's wagon was not a lurker/inactivity wagon. We'd have had a wagon on Diego1487 or RadiantCowbells too if that was the case.
Yes please. I felt bji was coming at this wagon from a neutral angle. That's the second time he's jumped on one of RolePlay25's wagons unexpectedly![]()
In post 622, Malakittens wrote:This said player reacts via emotion when town.
Emotional defences can come from town and from scum.
In post 605, RolePlay25 wrote:Bloodking's entry to the game was awkward, and he was called out on this. Do you deny this is so?
Bloodking ceased playing the game shortly after that awkward entrance. Do you deny this is so?
Bloodking, upon being challenged to actually participate, produced a reads list that contained nothing resembling logic. Do you deny this is so?
Bloodking, upon being asked to defend that reads list, fled the game. Do you deny this is so?
In post 713, Keyser Söze wrote:Yes, erm, because 'distancing' would only work if you were both scum I need to re-read that exchange. Something just poked me up the bum