Mini 1769: Ice Cream Mafia - Game over!

[KainTepes]

VOTE: GOLDEN ROBOSTER

YOU ARE JUST DOING THAT SO NOBODY DARES TO VOTE YOU!!! BUT I DARE!!!

[KainTepes]

ALL PLAYERS MUST VOTE GOLDEN ROBOSTER!!! HE IS TRYING TO AVOID A VOTE, BUT I AM SMARTER THAN THAT AND I AM VOTING HIM NOW!!!

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WHY DID THIS THREAD PROGRESS SO FAST??? I JUST WENT TO SLEEP AND CAME BACK AND EVERYONE TALKING, BUT THIS IS GOOD!!!!!

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SO IS GOLDEN ROBOSTER LYNCHED YET??

[KainTepes]

OK A QUICK LOOK AT ROBOSTER SHOWS ME HE IS PROBABLY TOWN... UNVOTE:

OCEANWIND IS SUSPICIOUS VOTE: OCEANWIND

MN IS NULL

[KainTepes]

Let us policy lynch and move on.

now he is SCUM

VOTE: mn

[KainTepes]

I dont see a reason to LYNCH anyone rn, period... its hardly been 2 days into the game...

[KainTepes]

MY STOMACH HURTS...

[KainTepes]

thats not funny!!! my stomach hurts so much i cant breathe...

[KainTepes]

BECAUSE I WANT TO PLAY MAFIA OF COURSE???

[KainTepes]

TRUE... now that I think about it... SCUM would want not so good players to be alive as LONG as possible so they can trick them later when people are fewer... bad town players want policy lynches...

So mn is not scum...

UNVOTE: mn

my tummy still HURTS... will think more when it STOPS HURTING...

[KainTepes]

No time today.

Tomorrow.

WHY do you keep avoiding,,

VOTE: BLUE BLOOD COFFEE

(in your name you spelt COFFEE wrong!!!!!!)

[KainTepes]

WHY ISNO ONE TALKING ABOUT ME....

VOTE: PHOENIX WROUGHT

[KainTepes]

I AM KIND OF LONELY FEELING IN THIS GAME......

[KainTepes]

I am HUNGRY but the doctor said i cannot eat ice cream or my tummy will hurt,,

[KainTepes]

I WILL READ MORE BACKWARD...but i have a SHORT ATTENTION SPAN and my memory is not VERY GOOD also my tummy just got better............. I WILL READ SOON....

[KainTepes]

I voted PHOENIX because my vote needed to go SOMEWHERE,, and PHOENIX seemed unvoted for, want to hear his OPINION!!!

I want to vote for SLANDAAR now because he was very OMGUS like with PHOENIX WRIGHT, VOTE: SLANDAAR

[KainTepes]

I dont really know thou because there is once in this TOWN OF SALEM!!! game when there was someone who voted for the same person who voted for him and then people were confused about whose wagon to go on but nobody was sure,, because of that everyone piled up on one wagon it was mostly luck but most people on the wagon were MAFIA.... after that someone claimed godfather and it was weird????

[KainTepes]

I forgot i kind of FORGOT what i wanted to say...... but basically that I suspect KEYSER and AQUANIM a little for jumping on wagons, KEYSER voted me while still showing some kind of reluctance (So that if he takes his vote off he can just say oh I wasnt SURE thats why), same with AQUA, who seems willing to vote for either MASQUERADE or ME, looks like scum vote hopping from one town wagon to another???

VOTE: AQUANIM

[KainTepes]

thats why I voted AQUANIM and not for you,, AQUANIM had the least reasons for vote hopping

[KainTepes]

that 'scum-narrative' is weird because its entirely based on what like 2 lines of post,, and I always do that, just look at ALL MY OTHER GAMES!!! I AM NOT INEXPERIENCED I HAVE 1000 GAMES ON TOWN OF SALEM!!!!!! IT IS NOT FORUM MAFIA,, I LIKE MAFIA SCUMMY THOUGH IT IS A NICE WEBSITE BUT PEOPLE KEEP CALLING ME A TROLL AND THAT MAKES ME CRY, I AM NOT ATROLL

[KainTepes]

WHY ARE YOU SPEECHLESS???? I LIKE SPEECHES,,

[KainTepes]

Hi

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KainTepes]

WHY IS NO ONE POSTING,, I AM lonely.....!!!

[KainTepes]

do you really go to HOGWARTS SCHOOL???

[KainTepes]

COOL!!! I GO TO GRYFFINDOR, WE MUST BE ENEMIES....

VOTE: KEYSER
UNVOTE:
VOTE: AQUANIM

[KainTepes]

Hi

you havent contributed ANYTHING?? VOTE: SIRCAKEZ

[KainTepes]

EVERYONE VOTE AQUANIM,,

[KainTepes]

EVERYONE VOTE AQUANIM,,

Why should we?

BECAUSE SHE IS SCUM VOTE HOBBLING

[KainTepes]

i dunno but she is the BEST READ I HAVe right now,,

[KainTepes]

i dunno but she is the BEST READ I HAVe right now,,

So why aren't you voting for them?

my vote is already on her...

[KainTepes]

ANYWAY i do not like how she is not answering my question on why she is vote hoppling. It looks very OPPORTUNISTIC, thats the word...

PHOENIX WRIGHT YOU MUST VOTE AQUANIM WITH ME,,

[KainTepes]

Prod revceived.

My bad, probably tonight.

BBT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY I AM VOTING AQUANIM...... COME JOIN ME PLEASE.!!!

LYNCH ALL THE BAD PEOPLE

[KainTepes]

KEYSER AND AQUANIM ARE SCUM BUDDIES. ONCE I FLIP TOWN HANG THEM LIKE A NOOSE!!!!!!!

[KainTepes]

BTW I JUST FINISHED A GAME WHERE I LOST CAN SOMEONE TEACH ME WHERE I DID WRONG???

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=65395

[KainTepes]

THIS IS THE GAME

[KainTepes]

what is a SCUM CASE???

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PBC I HAVE PLAYED OVER 1000 GAMES ON TOWN OF SALEM AND WHEN TWO PLAYERS VOTE ON A WAGON AFTER A FIRST VOTE THEY TEND TO BE MAFIA TOGETHER???

[KainTepes]

also my tummy HURTS AGAIN.....

[KainTepes]

I dont really know thou because there is once in this TOWN OF SALEM!!! game when there was someone who voted for the same person who voted for him and then people were confused about whose wagon to go on but nobody was sure,, because of that everyone piled up on one wagon it was mostly luck but most people on the wagon were MAFIA.... after that someone claimed godfather and it was weird????

this is EXACTLY what i mean!!!

[KainTepes]

I AM talking normally........ I TALK LIKE THIS on TOS all the TIME and people UNDERSTAND ME,, I CATCH SCUM QUICK THAT WAY.....

BBT IF YOU ARE TOWN YOU NEED TO POST..... I KNOW YOU ARE A GOOD PLAYER BUT IF YOU KEEP DODGING YOUR PRODS THEN YOU HAVE TO LEAVE

[KainTepes]

THIS is TERRIBLE.... BBT LOOKS SO MUCH MORE INACTIVE THIS GAME THAN IN ALL THE GAMES WHERE HE IS TOWN,, I WILL NOT GIVE HIM ANY MORE CHANCES..............

VOTE: BLUE BLOODED TOFFEE

[KainTepes]

it IS a MISS LYNCH,, so i dont care anymore, if town is stupid enough to actually vote me I HAVE nothing to say...... if you would RATHER vote me than someone like BBT who has been actively DODGING PRODS.....

I dont think scum is STUPID ENOUGH to lynch me so that is why I think scum must have taken teh OPPORTUNITY to get on my wagon, BECAUSE it seems easy, I dont understand what you all play like on MAFIA SCUMMY but it is so different from TOWN OF SALEM and I STRONGLY SUSPECT scum is TAKING ADVANTAGE of that fact to lynch me,, in any case I have CRUMBLED my role if you want me to claim later....... i will rather not claim today though

so can you at least read that game i linked and tell me what i did wrong,, i dont want to go on mafia discussions because there are too many people and I DONT wnat to be criticized by too many people at once.......!

[KainTepes]

yes in town of salem , mafia is ALWAYS the inactive players,, because that means nobody notice them and they dont get lynched
https://www.blankmediagames.com/ this is the GAME....!!

[KainTepes]

you NEED to tell me what a SCUM-CASE is first??

[KainTepes]

stop laughing at me, i am not STUPID....

[KainTepes]

it is STUPID because in Town of Salem the town is always dumb enough not to notice the mafia is hiding and keep voting for active players thats why they lose

this is why i am GOOD at TOWN OF SALEM!!! I HAVE LOST 300 GAMES BUT WON 700 AND MORE!!!!!

[KainTepes]

so take that back, I am not STUPID!!! I WILL FIND SCUM IN THIS GAME I PROMISE YOU THAT!!!!! BECAUSE I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NO, MAFIA IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE QUIET ONES. HOW MANY GAMES HAVE YOU PLAYED, IVE PLAYED 1000+ AND THAT IS THE PATTERN I OBSERVED!!!!

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I HAVE PLAYED 1000+ GAMES SO I HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE

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so is it like a PHOENIX WRIGHT GAME???? THEN IT WILL BE MORE FUN THAN I THOUGHT,,, I always need a walkthrough for PW games though.... because they have weird answers

[KainTepes]

im confused

[KainTepes]

THAT WILL BE ME

[KainTepes]

I AM SENSIBLE, I JUST GET ANGRY WHEN PEOPLE VOTE ME FOR STUPID REASONS LIKE VOTING, LIKE OF COURSE I WILL BE VOTING WHAT ELSE WILL I BE DOING?????

thanks for calling me loveable and not stupid, i like you

[KainTepes]

Maybe I am just getting EXCESSIVELY FURIOUS at Aquanim because she called me a troll both here and in the NORMAL GAME QUEUE,, which hurts my FEELINGS, and I am scumreading her because I am angry, so i will take a break from looking at her now because i am probably being biased....

[KainTepes]

ALSO if anyone wants to know the truth I AM NOT the same person as KAINTEPES on twitter

[KainTepes]

CAN you read my game and tell me why I FAILED To convince people to vote my top scumread there?? I GOT IT RIGHT but nobody listened....

[KainTepes]

BUT I SUSPECTED NINOMASAKI FROM TEH START, AND SHE WAS SCUM.....!!! I NEVER CHANGED MY READ ON HER AND I EVEN PUT HER TO L-1 IN THE END..... BUT THEN NOBODY HAMMERED

[KainTepes]

i like the ice cream pictures, it makes my tummy hungry

[KainTepes]

im trying my best to be good player though but things are so different here than on tos

[KainTepes]

i was in newbie game but i thought since i have SO MUCH experience in TOS i will play other games too......

[KainTepes]

PLAYACTING?????????????????????

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so pops do you have any COMMENTS for me based on the game??

[KainTepes]

VOTE: KEYSER

DIE KEYSERRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!! YOU ARE A MEAN PERSON!!!!

[KainTepes]

GUYFAWKES I SAW YOU NEVER POST UNTIL PAGE 17 OF THE GAME WHY???????????

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I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THIS GAME, NOBODY IS EVEN TRYING TO CATCH SCUM????? KeySER POST LONG POSTS WITH NO SUBSTANCE, AQUANIM LOOKING MORE TOWN NOW WITH THE POSTS BUT STILL WEIRD LOOKING,,

I AM KAIN TEPES

[KainTepes]

THEN WE LYNCH YOU INSTEAD!!!!

VOTE: TELL TALE HEART

YOU ARE SCUMMATES WITH KEYSER TEPES

[KainTepes]

OceanWind has requested replacement, seeking one now.

SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE: OCEAN WIND

[KainTepes]

KEYSER TEPES, AQUANIM, OCEAN WIND AND TELL TALE HEART ARE ALL SCUM MATES......

AT LEAST THERE MUST BE TWO SCUM INSIDE THIS GROUP MUA HA HA HA!!

lynch all the EVIL DOERS

[KainTepes]

BBT ARE YOU TOWN.....??

[KainTepes]

I AM FEELING SAD ABOUT THIS GAME,, NOBODY LISTENING TO ME WHEN I SAY THERE IS PROBABLY 2 SCUM WITHIN THIS GROUP:

KEYser, Aquanim, OCEANWIND and TELL TALE HEART....

[KainTepes]

YOU ARE DEFENDING KEYSER RIGHT???

[KainTepes]

BUT NOBODY LISTENS WHEN I SAID YOU ARE SUSPICIOUS FOR DEFENDING THE KEYSER

[KainTepes]

what is soft claim,,

[KainTepes]

YOU ARE MAKING ME VERY ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM TELLING THE TRUTH CAN YOU ALL JUST BELIEVE ME??????????????

I AM TOWN AND I AM NOT A TROLL!!!!!! IF YOU SPEND MORE TIME TRYING TO LOOK AT SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE LIKE OCEANWIND AND AQUANIM THEN MAYBE YOU WILL FIND SCUM FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AFTER NIGHT 1 I WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO GIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KainTepes]

i am suddenly not sure about keyser, i want to think about aquanim.....

[KainTepes]

nobody even considered whether she may be town or scum, which is VERY strange.......

[KainTepes]

Aqua is prob town so I'm not interested in that.

Why have you changed your mind on Keyser?

too many people suddenly interested in keyser,, feels OPPORTUNISTIC

[KainTepes]

i hope that POPS will post more,,

[KainTepes]

why are you suddenly NULL READING me then?? I thought I was a CLEAR SCUM READ??

looks like scum trying to back away,,

[KainTepes]

what is KEYSER still doing??

[KainTepes]

Keyser and TELLTALEHEART is because TELLTALE keeps defending Keyser,,

Mafia likely will defend other mafia, because fewer mafia means mafia is more likely to lose,,

[KainTepes]

hello, i have been depressed lately so i wont post as much........... sorry..... i will replace out if i cannot get myself up to do anything.....

[KainTepes]

GuyFawkes, where do you think SCUM are on my wagon if you think scum is on my WAGON,, answer this question please,,

[KainTepes]

AQUANIM SUDDENLY SAY I AM TOWN???? I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO LYNCH ME EARLIER,,

VOTE: AQUANIM

[KainTepes]

BBT why is IRCHER PROBABLY SCUM???

[KainTepes]

i was reading your ISO,, i saw you said TOWN KAIN many times, and you said IF I CAN PROVE TO YOU KAIN IS TOWN or something,,

VERY SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU CHANGED YOUR VIEW,,

[KainTepes]

you also STOPPED voting for me

[KainTepes]

dont IGNORE me......

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that wiki page is really WEIRD....

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Kain's posts actually make me avoid reading his posts. Except when I do, I imagine his voice high pitch, whiny, and the capped words he adds a grunty squeal to it.

CAN YOU NOT BE RUDE.............

I HAVE A NORMAL VOICE JUST LIKE ALL OTHER MEMBERS OF HUMANITY

[KainTepes]

WHY ARE PEOPLE VOTING GUYFAWKES..............??

[KainTepes]

IF YOU HAVE BRAIN FREEZE YOU SHOULD DRINK HOT WATER,, IT WILLMAEK YOU FEEL BATTER,,

[KainTepes]

Spoiler: Mini 1769 - Day 1 Thoughts #2

1. Boon claims Massive always contributes...

10 or so contentless posts...

every game in 631.

The problem is not the lurking, it's the lack of anything substandial in his posts. I saw his scum play in that last game.... His posts actually did have some content to them, but I have to agree about the meta of barely posting.

2. In 632, Boon claims I may be town-tunneling Keyser -

That is definitely a possibility, but I really do feel pretty strong in my townread of Keyser. His wagon seems to be the results of poor reasoning, albeit that might be true of all the current wagons. I will try to keep that in mind.

3. Aqua wants to know why people townread Kein in post 642 -

I already told you why -- He soft-claimed early.

PS: I don't think this lynch will happen; sh!!!

Also, Kein is being Kein. I have learned that meta is actually pretty important when reading players... when I first came here, I was like "Meta doesn't matter....", but that's not true as everyone plays different. Also, the wa a player plays & the way people respond to them tells a lot about their meta -- I haven't read a single game of another user, but I am able to discern the meta of a player fairly quickly. Some people would be harder to read meta-wise though.

4. Keyser does an ISO of BBT in 643 -

I've already expressed that I felt BBT's push/"case" against Keyser was rather weak, opportunistic, and scum-motivated. This ISO reinforces such a read and also identifies a ton of holes in BBT's Keyser'=Scum case.

5. Addressing some points in 646 -

1) Why is the thread review a problem - While I replaced in, and therefore, yesterday was my first opportunity to review the thread, BBT has been in the game since the start, yet by the sound of 1 of his posts, it seemed like he wasn't reading the thread at all. 2) I feel the tunnel by BBT is not only pathetic, but opportunistic and scum-motivated; BBT seems to be pushing a not-well supported, holey case on a slot that a lot of people express mild annoyance/scumreads of.

6. Keyser claims Thor is running people to L-1 without providing his own thoughts in 648. Thor responds with 649 with details on why some of the things Keyser said in 648 are untrue or inaccurate. -

I actually like both for town. Keyser provides a pretty good post explaining his read of Thor, and actually supports it fairly decent. (Actually, it wasn't just the L-1 shenanigans that led to a scumread of Thor -- Masq played a role as does the fact that Thor almost immediately suggests it after replacing in. Thor then points out an inaccuracy in Keyser's post which I like cuz again, he is supporting his claim. In this case, I don't think Keyser was intentionally trying to misrep Thor by stating he didn't provide any thought, I think it has to do with tunnelling & confirmaion bias between the two.

7. To Massive in 650 -

Didn't I explain why? I wanted to know your reads and thoughts which you had yet to share.

8. Pops says something about a scummy replace out in 651 -

I have no idea who you're referring to.

9. Thor states he only encourages deadline lynches as scum in 664. -

I don't have a scum meta yet, but I'm the exact opposite! I actively encourage deadline lynches that way we get as much out of our time as possible.

10.

Good, I'm not the only one who thinks 668 about Keyser. Prove the fundamental argument that Keyser is empty posting, and I will seriously consider joining the wagon. Til then, I think I'm sticking to a BBT wagon.

11. @681 -- I'm OceanWind's replacement. This isn't italics as it's 100% objective.

12. Massive says I'm not catching up in 699 -

Can you freaking read? Show me where I haven't caught up; 5 pages I haven't read cuz of RL that sprung up in the last 24 hrs is def. not alignment-indicative. Still, I think I'd be happy with a neutral to townlean read on you.

13. Keeping 716 in mind.

Ok, my inquiry on Massive is done. I'm getting town vibes there. I think I can upgrade TTH to a townlean and pops is still neutral/scum. I am reconsidering my stance on Thor as Thor vs. Keyser may be TvT (such fights have a habit of being that)

With that said, I still scumread BBT.
VOTE: BBT

Sheep me -- I'm actually providing reasons for my views

meh, I don't think your case on BBT is worth sheeping

HIS PROTECTION OF BBT FEELS LIKE A TOWN PROTECTION ACT,,

[KainTepes]

KAINTEPES!!!! DOES AQUANIM LLOOK MORE SCUMMY THAN EVERYONE ELSE TO YOU........???

AQUANIM AND TELLTALEHEART BOTH LOOK SCUMMY TO ME but nobody will listen,,

[KainTepes]

This is dumb meta.

@Thor665, I suggest a clean-slate before N1 draws on us.

Who is scum? Who is town? Be as honest and direct as possible.

I want your end-of-play conclusions.

I don't mind in whatever format they come, but I want names.

Thanks.

AQUANIM AND TELLTALEHEART BOTH LOOK SCUMMY TO ME but nobody will listen,,

I'll have another look but they looked clean the last time I read through. In the meantime, show me clearly why you scum-read them as best as you can.

I WILL, THANK YOU FOR BEING POLITE AND LISTENING TO ME..........

So, aquanim FIRST:

She posts a lot but mainly her posts take an OPPORTUNISTIC STANCE,, her vote on me being first of all, she takes the easiest wagon first but then happily switches to me without a SECOND THOUGHT just because my wagon got bigger, it looks just like scum who doesnt really care which town they are lynching as long as they can get a MISLYNCH.........

telltaleheart:

I do not think MUCH ABOUT HIM,, I only scumread him becaues i think AQUANIM is scum and tell tale heart is ASSOCIATIVE....

[KainTepes]

Kain, historically the success rate of humans accurately scumhunting eachother is pretty low. On a super good hunch you do like a third better than the base chance of your target randomly being scum, which ends up still being way lower than 50%

For that reason, associative tells are best ignored until after the primary target has died and been revealed. So you should focus your efforts on Aquanim.

OK,, THEN.......

Though HONESTLY I feel like TELL TALE HEARTS POSTS HAVE A SHADY FEELING,, a little like a shadowy aura,, like his trying to hide something....... i dont know how to explain feelings though

[KainTepes]

why did this game get so many replacements, it become so difficult to ISO if people keep changing............

[KainTepes]

we have 1 day left, nobody will listen to me about AQUANIM,, so where should I put my vote??? I have no other strong reads so you guys help me DECIDE.... its not good to NO LYNCH so I will join

[KainTepes]

I SUSPECT, AQUANIM AND TELLTALE,,

I SUSPECTED KEYSER IN THE PAST, BUT NOW A BIT LESS BECAUSE HE IS LESS TUNNELLY, MORE WILLING TO ENGAGE,,

BUT I SEMI TOWN READ GUYFAWKES AND DONT WANT OT VOTE HIM..........

NEED TO THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CANYOU ALL EXPLAIN AGAIN, IN SHORT SIMPLE SENTENCES, WHY VOTING THE TWO??

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I THINK HE IS A BIT SCUMMIER THAN GUY FAWKES WHOSE POSTS feel more GENUINE,, but he ALSO posts long posts and seems ENGAGING IN THE GAME so I dont know,,

Why do you think he is MANIPULATING??

[KainTepes]

WHAT???? WHY ARE YOU SHOOTING HIM???? WE HAVE NO PROOF, AND WERENT YOU GOING TO LYNCH KS??? WHY SHOOT IRCHER,, I DONT UNDERSTAND??

Is this a FAKE GAMBIT just like what BILL AND GOMPERS did in KIDS WITH GUNS???

[KainTepes]

IRCHER IS HE REAL SHOOTING YOU OR FAKE SHOOTING YOU????

[KainTepes]

IN THE OTHER GAME, KIDS WITH GUNS,, BILL AND GOMPERS WHO IS A innocent child FAKE DAY VIG ME, and I WAS SO CONFUSED AND UPSET!!!!!!!! but it was fake,, i was angry

[KainTepes]

i am CONFUSED... if you are NEARING UNVOTE STATUS,, then why would you tell me he is MANIPULATING THE TOWN as if you are sure?? it shows that you are not sure in REALITY??

[KainTepes]

@Kain - I'm willing to work with you this game. Wasn't really earlier, but I'm starting to town read you, and I expect both of us to be in this game for the long run due to easy seeming potential mislynches.
Understand that we absolutely don't want a no lynch. We have a day left. No lynch denies town information, and does nothing but help scum have more confusion. Keyser is the optimal lynch even if he isn't one of your main scum reads. Unfortunately, bar some major slip, your main scum reads aren't going to be able to pick up steam for their lynch in a day and a half. Guy getting lynched would give us near to no information besides if he's town, Keyser's definitely scum. If we lynch Keyser, and he flips scum, that gives Guy major townie points unless we think Keyser would bus this hard (he wouldn't, not in this way.) With a Keyser lynch, we get TONS OF INFORMATION, even if he ends up flipping town. Guy has a lesser chance of being scum, and will bring us near to no info. Vote Keyser with us.

ok......... i guess you make sense,, in the last game BILL AND GOMPERS faked a vig and he was Town,, it was a way of getting information I learnt, so I can believe that you are also trying to get information...

but what do you mean by SEEMINGLY POTENTIAL MISLYNCHES,, I don't understand,,

VOTE: Keyser

[KainTepes]

YOU BETTER NOT BE SCUM,, IF YOU ARE SCUM AND I TRUSTED YOU,, I WILL BE VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY ANGRY!!!!!

[KainTepes]

but I will not Sheep scum,,??

[KainTepes]

I AM NOT AN IDIOT??? DONT BE RUDE

[KainTepes]

dont ignore me pls, take that back, im not an idiot..........

[KainTepes]

Why do you like voting MOD, Ircher??

[KainTepes]

MOST SCUMMY TO LEAST SCUMMY,,

MOST SCUMMY!!!
Aquanim
TellTaleHart

DONT KNOW
everyone else.......

LESS SCUMMY
GuyFakwes
Boonskiies

DEFINITELY TOWN
KAINTEPES

[KainTepes]

READS LIST IS AN INTERESTING THING,, I WILL USE IT MORE!!!

[KainTepes]

WATCHER IS LIKE LOOKOUT, RIGHT???

this is GOOD,,, it means ONE OF THE TWO NAMES MUST BE SCUM,,!!!!!!! BOONSKIIES YOU MUST TELL US NOW WHO IT IS SO WE CAN LYNCH THEM!!!!!!!!!

[KainTepes]

WHO??? YOU MUST REVEAL,, WE MUST KNOW.,, SO WE CAN LYNCH THEM

[KainTepes]

why stop, we are so close to winning the game,, we just need to lynch the bad guys

[KainTepes]

Let me elaborate -- That prob. isn't the best strat. Claiming watcher wasn't a great idea most likely,p.

so what?? he already claimed, so let him reveal who the scum are, then we can win!!!

[KainTepes]

what is cause wifom???

[KainTepes]

how do scum cause wifom???? i dont see the harm in revealing the names,,why would you reveal that you are a POWER ROLE and then hide your results??

[KainTepes]

someone explain pls,,

[KainTepes]

but you are making them out themselves anyway,, so why not just reveal..... im dying to know who is the scum

[KainTepes]

AQUA is like scum,, i said this from the time yesterday, TTH Is probably also scum........

[KainTepes]

why are you guys not listening to me,,

[KainTepes]

ircher is making me angry,, should i just reveal what i have boonskiies, or??? it looks like he is purposely trying to make me agitated,,

[KainTepes]

Should I REVEAL my role????

[KainTepes]

I WILL CLAIM RIGHT NOW IF PEOPLE TELL ME I SHOULD CLAIM,, I ALWASY WANTED TO BUT IN OTHER GAMES PEOPLE SAID IT IS BAD TO REVEAL EARLY,,??

[KainTepes]

OK NOBODY IS SAIN ANYTHING BUT BOONSKIIES SAID I SHOULD CLAIM AND I BELIEVE HIM A LOT,, SO I WILL REVEAL MY RESULT,,

AQUA is like scum,, i said this from the time yesterday, TTH Is probably also scum........

I INVESTIGATED AQUANIM LAST NIGHT LIKE I ALWAYS SUSPECTED,, BECAUSE I FEEL SO WRONG FROM HER PLAYERLIST,,

AND I GOT "No Result".... WHICH MEANS THAT I THINK SHE IS CONFIRMED TO BE A SCUM MEMBER WHO CAN HIDE HER ROLE FROM INVESTIGATION!!!!!!

SO I WILL VOTE THOR TODAY WHO IS REVEALED SCUM AND AQUANIM TOMORROW FOR SURE,, ALL OF YOU PLEASE LISTEN TO ME,, WE HAVE MANAGED TO FIND SCUM MEMBERS SO LETS DO THIS,,

VOTE: THOR

[KainTepes]

WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING,, IT IS COMMON FOR SOME BAD MAFIA ROLES TO BE UNINVESTIGATABLE, LIKE GODFATHER???

[KainTepes]

PBC

PBC IS COP,, in ROT13

I CANNOT INVESTIGATE EVERY NIGHT,, but last night was OK

[KainTepes]

NO, LYCNH TMR MUST BE AQUANIM... THEN AFTERWARDS I WIL HAPPILY DIE FOR MY MISTAKE IF I WAS WRONG,, BUT I KNOW I AM RIGHT,, BECAUSE I GOT NO RESULT,, if she was TOWN i will get not guilty!!!!

[KainTepes]

???????????????????????? CONFUSED,,

I could not INVESTIATE last night, I AM AN Odd-Night Cop!! But tonight I can,

[KainTepes]

VOTE: AQUANIM!!!!!!!!!! I AM STILL SUSPICIOUS OF THE NO RESULT,, THERE MAY NOT BE A ROLEBLCOKER AND SHE IS JUST A GODFATHER

[KainTepes]

With the way Kein claimed & considering his playstyle, I could see no reason besides Kein having a role such as Cop for him to do so. If he had a weaker role such as Voyeur, I wouldn't think he would seem quite as excited about the role.

of COURSE i am COP, I said this YESTERDAY if you read closely..... but that i cannot do it every night,,

[KainTepes]

Nobody has convinced me that Aquanim is NOT scum,, i find that NO RESULT fishy

[KainTepes]

but Aquanim may be GODFATHER, which is MAFIA,, i said that already, it is a possibility?

[KainTepes]

but Aquanim may be GODFATHER, which is MAFIA,, i said that already, it is a possibility?

READ THE WIKI; GODFATHER WOULD RETURN AN INNOCENT, NOT A "NO RESULT", RESULT PM!

Then how come i got "No Result"?? Surely that means Aquanim is a supicious individual,,??

you think i may be blocked??

[KainTepes]

then even then, why will AQUANIM block me?? unless she is mafia roleblocker?

if she is mafia roleblocker then of course we must lynch her

[KainTepes]

how can there be 3 mafia roleblockers??? that sounds silly,, will that ever happen??

[KainTepes]

it is IMPOSSIBLE that there are 3 mafia roleblockers,, why does POPS think this is possible, i think it is not

[KainTepes]

what is callout??

[KainTepes]

huh but that is WEIRD,, why will BOONSKIIES be scum tring to DRAG attention onto himself by doing this?? what is the point?? to get rid of a gunsmith???

[KainTepes]

so your meaning is that even if i was blocked by someone OTHER than AQUANIM,, I will still get No Result??

[KainTepes]

Wait... should we be voting Boonskies today?


Theoretically, if Boonskies is not scum, his gambit should have worked. Someone scum who actually targeted the N1 victim should have fessed up and gone for the head-to-head.

Why didn't his gambit work? If a scum refused to take ownership of visiting the victim and Boonskies announced which person did visit the victim, but didn't take ownership, they just die without getting the head to head, which is strictly worse when Boonskies said he had two names.

Furthermore, X-shot vig double targetting the night's actual victim is a really sketchy, convenient claim.

Occam's razor, Boonskies is a scum-aligned tracker that saw Thor visit the dead player, then had a crazy idea. He started with a watcher claim on the night's victim, which is safe if he was tracked, then switched to a vig claim on the night's victim, which is ALSO safe if he was tracked. He was hoping 2 players visited the dead player.

this doesnt makes SENSE,, why will BOONSKIIES watch the same player that he was planning to kill?? that would be completely unnecessary,, I think Boon is surely Town

[KainTepes]

AQUANIM AND TITUS,, i am THINKING of the way they keep REACTING TO ME, especially AQUANIM SEEMS AFRAID OF ME FOR SOME REASON,, IT IS VERY SUSPICIOUS,, DOES NOBODY SEE IT???

[KainTepes]

HELLO,,,, I CHECKED BBT LAST NIGHT,, AND THERE WAS AGAIN "No Result",,

I kind of feel like I am a useless power, it is kind of DISAPPOINTING

[KainTepes]

why do i keep getting No Result?? it is making me feel a bit of a sinking feeling.......

[KainTepes]

i know now that there is a ROLEBLOCKER because people explained,, what I DONT understand is why they always roleblock ME??

[KainTepes]

it is SADDENING, because so far in my games I have lost all of them because I cannot find SCUM........ and now I finally have the power to find scum and still my results are empty.....

[KainTepes]

if they are scared of me because I an FIGURE OUT THEIR identity then why dont just kill me?? it is weird......

I thought KEYSER and TELL TALE HEART WERE SCUM TOGETHER,, but now that TTH is dead and not scum,, i am not confident about Keyser anymore....... I want to look more at AQUANIM

[KainTepes]

Aquanim and KEyser were both very opportunitistic Day 1,, but I felt KEYSER and TTH must be scum together for it to work,, and TTH is not scum... so I was looking more at Aquanim..... I believe now that she is not Godfather,, but it is still strange her actions.

But anyway, the wagon of which Titus was HAMMERED,, must have scum within,,

that makes me suspect keyser more,, but also POPS

[KainTepes]

do you want ot know why I investigated you, BBT???

[KainTepes]

I see what you MEAN,, that is seems like Keyser if he is scum, has BUDDIES who are protecting him....

but I also feel like KEYSER wagon grew very very fast,, and feels strange,, so it is a NULL surely??

Yes,, I believed you were TOWN-LIKE,, but you voted Titus very fast and it was a strange feeling, I was very sure you were suspicious,, and I still dont have an answer

[KainTepes]

you mean,, like my wagon??

[KainTepes]

I AM ODD NIGHT COP!!!!!!!!

[KainTepes]

this is very CONFUSING,, but BBT what happens now?? the wagon seems SUSPICIOUS but this is not necessarily incriminating evidence,, if we lynch wrongly we loose.....!!!

[KainTepes]

OK......????

VOTE: Keyser

[KainTepes]

KainTepes do you think Keyser is scummy and why?

I am UNSURE, but so far it seems that if KEYSER AND BBT are both scum, then since there are 3 SCUM they can ALL VOTE AT ONCE!!! and win the game,, so it is likely there is one scum between them.....

BBT seems like TOWN to me, and he told me to VOTE KEYSER......

should I UNVOTE??? POPS you have to give suggestion and thoughts please,

[KainTepes]

OR WE CAN ALL UNVOTE AND VOTE AQUANIM INSTEAD!!!!!!!!!!!

[KainTepes]

Kain Tepes, I think either Keyser or BBT are scum because we are in Lylo.

Hypothetically, if Keyser and BBT were both town, and BBT voted Keyser, then the three scum players who knew Keyser is town would all vote Keyser together and instantly win the game.

that is what I thought,, as well. So it is probable either Keyser or BBT is mafia member.

BBT's case on Keyser being unvoted for in Day 1 is quite COMPELLING,, but otherwise i am also a bit unsure... I think bbt is a stronger player so I will listen to him for now at least until I can INVESTIGATE again

[KainTepes]

DID WE WIN, BBT????

[KainTepes]

we still have 2 more scum to find right????

[KainTepes]

its probably AQUANIM

[KainTepes]

BBT????

[KainTepes]

It was an enjoyable game, thank you for HOSTING, SirCakez,, I hope to improve my play soon. You are all very friendly and I am sory if I was annoying!!

[KainTepes]

my cop idea was a random IDEA i thought up of, i thought it was going ot be stupid, but it saved me and I was surprised.... thank you for the praise Ircher, i did not know it was a good idea....

i kept voting Aquanim because I wanted to DISTANCE

[KainTepes]

I chose ODD NIGHT because in another game I saw Odd Night and Even Night roles,, so i thought it might be a good idea,, it seems more REALISTIC than normalcop

[KainTepes]

AQUANIM is the one who suggested that I say NO RESULT, so it is all thanks to him...!!!

[KainTepes]

i do not like to be mafia though, so I hope I can be a good town again,,next game... if the queue lets me in, because nowadays it looks like nobody wants to play with me and in every game I TRY to join people say they dont want me there.....!!

[KainTepes]

im not sure why people hate me??? i thought i played OK this game,,, do you think i was bad?

[KainTepes]

i will not use caps all the time then...!!

[KainTepes]

I AM KAIN TEPES.