Die, scum, die.In post 7, The Goodfather wrote:VOTE: Aronis
So vampires vs ghouls, huh? Looks like interesting mechanics, gonna try and and familiarize myself with them
VOTE: The Goodfather
I'm town! Or whatever we are called.
Die, scum, die.In post 7, The Goodfather wrote:VOTE: Aronis
So vampires vs ghouls, huh? Looks like interesting mechanics, gonna try and and familiarize myself with them
I thought people wanted me to flavor claim?In post 64, Squirrel Girl wrote:I found what Aronis did scummy, and called him on it, but it feels more like a straw grasp scumslip than a legit sort of case. Am I just being foolish? You seem really bought into it, so...I should be too?
I'm not the damn miller!?In post 67, SpyreX wrote:This:
Is what I'm calling bullshit on. You know you're a miller. You see the wincon. There is no reason there should be any doubt.My PM is rather unclear about what I actually am, hence the opening post.
Not really. It talks about visiting the city and getting caught up in this mess. My wincon says I win when the prince declares no more threats. It's obvious I am town-aligned, However, what I am is rather unclear.In post 68, Squirrel Girl wrote:Does your wincon and/or role name state without doubt your nature?
Until I know I'm not going to die within five pages of the start, I have no reason to put effort into helping you idiots find scum.In post 70, d3x wrote:This is odd to me. Aronis didn't flavor Claim, he NameClaimed. Why exactly did this make you back down? Aside from that, why say you have an opinion about something else and then end your post? What was the opinion and what was it on? Did it refer to a ScumRead? If so, why no Vote anywhere? In short, what was the purpose in telling us you had an opinion on something without telling us what the opinion was? Finally, why haven't you followed up on it?In post 35, displaced wrote:I have an opinion about something else. Flavour claim makes me unvote
Is this SOP for you?In post 42, Kagami wrote:I have some strong beliefs about a few players' alignments, but I'd like for everyone to check in before I place a srs biz vote.
Can I thus assume your RVS Vote is for serious, then? Humor me, at what point exactly did it become for serious?In post 49, Kthxbye wrote:My vote would go on him, but I dont like d3x not rvsing me like he has done in the most recent games we have been in together. That is more concerning to me at the moment as it is opposite the norm town him.
When did you make this assessment?In post 51, Kagami wrote:I'd be surprised if we have vanilla vampiresWhile this is more-or-less true, I'd still prefer to have Aronis answer SG's original question.It's neither incredibly obvious nor necessarily accurate that town are all vampires, which makes aronis's confusion reasonable enough that to attack it is unwarranted.
Based on my WinCon, I thought it mattered. After doing some mental reevaluating, it's fine. If someone else Claims to be a Town Aligned nonVampire {not saying that you are Claiming this at this time}, this will matter again real quick, unless the Mod is playing loose and fast with certain terms. If said time arises when hypothetical other person Claims Town aligned nonVamp, I'll beIn post 53, Squirrel Girl wrote:I detect as Human, as stated. I did not indicate whether I was or wasn't Human, Vampire, or anything else. I'm not sure what the value in clarifying that is. Is there one?demandingan answer to my question. I may even tell you why.
@Aronis- Why do you haveliterally nothingto say about anything that doesn't relate directly to your RolePM?
Aronis's Iso - a d3x Retelling
1- I'm Town cause my RPM says so!
2- Here's my RPM!
3- I can't understand my RPM.
This has been another cool story, bro. Thank you for tuning in.
I'm really tempted to shake some shit up, but I'll settle for a Vote instead.
Vote:Aronis
I was actually working on reads and stuff. But after seeing this post, I lost all interest.In post 76, d3x wrote:And he calls us idiots...
UnVote
Hey Aronis, what are your thoughts about anything game related? Players? Wagons? Who was pushing you for scummy reasons? I mean, it's almost page 5, you may as well play the game you signed up for...
I'll get to that in a min.In post 80, d3x wrote:I may shed a tear.
What are your thoughts on the KthxWagon? What are your thoughts on Kthx?
Kthx wagon? Only one person voted kthx? It would help if we had a votecount.In post 80, d3x wrote:I may shed a tear.
What are your thoughts on the KthxWagon? What are your thoughts on Kthx?
I can see both sides, but ultimately I feel like it's secret for a good reason. We can't risk having everyone who gets vitae killed off, so unless a doctor can protect them I still think No and that would require a doctor claiming and they could be killed the next day. I guess BP would work too, but then scum could just claim that.In post 96, displaced wrote:People keep saying this and are probably right but what about the flipside? Not having some organization means the scum team are gonna get the vitae for themselves more often than not. This is just as bad (or worse?) than giving scum extra incentive to kill a particular person, isn't it? I agree that my idea is flawed but we should still try to figure a way to do this better imo
Don't shoot me!In post 135, Katsuki wrote:I have a 3-shot N1 vig. It'll either be spectacularly game-breaking or spectacularly game-failing.In post 130, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Speaking from experience of many years inside the mind of GreyICE, there isn't going to be a game breaking strategy available.In post 127, Kagami wrote:If I'm right, there are breaking strategies available~
In post 87, Aronis wrote:I'll get to that in a min.In post 80, d3x wrote:I may shed a tear.
What are your thoughts on the KthxWagon? What are your thoughts on Kthx?
Reads:
Katsuki, GF, vonflare, monkeyman and empking are all null for the lack of posting.
EDIT: vonflare, lean scum.
Null,
Squirrel Girl, overall she seems town, but this early on, considering the Miller Human claim, Null for now. Maybe she is the blood gifter Kagami mentions?
Displaced, the nomination idea was not ideal, but IMO not really a scumtell at this point or anything alignment indicative at this point.
Lean Town,
LL seems to be genuine and helpful.
Kagami, a couple of her posts stood out, might cover them in a bit.
Sorting spyrex, d3x, and kthxbye now.
In post 91, Aronis wrote:Kthx wagon? Only one person voted kthx? It would help if we had a votecount.In post 80, d3x wrote:I may shed a tear.
What are your thoughts on the KthxWagon? What are your thoughts on Kthx?
Kthx is alright from what I can tell.
SpyreX is null-ish atm and d3x is null/lean town-ish.
Of course we're just going to happen to 'miss' these posts aren't we?In post 102, Aronis wrote:I can see both sides, but ultimately I feel like it's secret for a good reason. We can't risk having everyone who gets vitae killed off, so unless a doctor can protect them I still think No and that would require a doctor claiming and they could be killed the next day. I guess BP would work too, but then scum could just claim that.In post 96, displaced wrote:People keep saying this and are probably right but what about the flipside? Not having some organization means the scum team are gonna get the vitae for themselves more often than not. This is just as bad (or worse?) than giving scum extra incentive to kill a particular person, isn't it? I agree that my idea is flawed but we should still try to figure a way to do this better imo
I did give reads with basic explanations.In post 89, Squirrel Girl wrote:Ghouls are explicitly mentioned in the fluff as the scum. I don't think hat's much of an assumption at all.In post 71, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:While I mostly agree, understand that there are things he can be that are not vampires and still town, assuming Ghouls are scum (which is a rather large assumption, but one that seems fair?).
Also, I don't think there's much value in insulting D3x, let's not do that? This is the Prince's domain after all, and he likes to keep order, and too many insults could unleash the beast
Why not? Just because other people are idiots I'm not sure why that should stop the game from being played. But, I will admit (and I am often called an idiot) that I'm not sure why your current wagon is so bad. Can you talk me through why it's obviously a wagon of idiots? Like, what have you done that should make people not be voting you? Can you give me an example of someone who is scummier than you that more people should be voting?In post 74, Aronis wrote:Until I know I'm not going to die within five pages of the start, I have no reason to put effort into helping you idiots find scum.
@D3xie - Have you played with Lady Lambda and Spyrex before? They appear mildly attached at the hip in a weird way and I'm trying to figure out why. If it's a normal thing I could at least shrug and walk away from it. Do you have any insight in that regard?
It's hard to find scum when people post once or twice the whole game. Unless you're one of those idiots.In post 150, Squirrel Girl wrote:You gave out a lot of null reads. You actually gave out no scumreads despite finding your wagon as bad as you claim to. What are you going to do to sort your null reads out and maybe find scum?In post 149, Aronis wrote:I did give reads with basic explanations.
So you don't think anyone voting you is particularly scum or town, just bad at scumhunting...but you also don't have any particular scum reads? Why, then, is it odd for them to be willing to vote you for a nullish act? If no one looks like scum then why not pressure someone just to see what happens?In post 149, Aronis wrote:My wagon had no logical explanation behind it. It was based off of an RVS post and I still don't understand it. They were voting me for claiming town. Which is pathetic. It only reeks of their incapabilities in the art of scumhunting.
Meta: I OMGUS constantly.In post 157, vonflare wrote:I didn't miss them. I excluded them from my quote list because I did not find them terribly relevant.In post 147, Aronis wrote: Of course we're just going to happen to 'miss' these posts aren't we?
And the moment I call you scummy, you edit your reads list to include me as scum? That is the definition of omgus.
You.In post 172, vonflare wrote:So, if you had to choose RIGHT NOW, who would you lynch?
I actually need to:In post 175, d3x wrote:@Aronis- Then why aren't you Voting him? Likewise, why did you pick Monkey to Vote over Emp & GF?
I have to keep up my scummy as hell meta, so when I am scum, no one can tell.In post 176, vonflare wrote:Says someone is their top scumread, without actually voting them.In post 173, Aronis wrote:You.In post 172, vonflare wrote:So, if you had to choose RIGHT NOW, who would you lynch?
hmm.
Whoactuallyreads Aronis as town right now?
And I assume you plan on explaining?
In post 193, vonflare wrote:Monkeyman and aronis supporting each other. all the time.monkey/aronis scumteam?
Just a thought.
He's pretty much null. Like the majority of everyone else.In post 196, Squirrel Girl wrote:What do you need me to explain? Do you think he's town? Or are you interested in voting him if I give you a few talking points? I could be interested in that, I suppose. Let me know.
Another, more probable conclusion, is that I didn't see it.In post 195, d3x wrote:Why are you taking exception to her Vote, but not mine?
If you are suggesting a me and monkeyman scum team, that's not helping your case.In post 198, Squirrel Girl wrote:Probably because I'm way more fun to interact withIn post 195, d3x wrote:Why are you taking exception to her Vote, but not mine?
But this is actually a good point...I'm not sure what it would mean, but it is odd. But, isn't the only way it's an issue is that you'd be Aronis' scumpartner?
Why do you think he defended you and even didn't seem to understand the fairly obvious case on you when he did so?In post 197, Aronis wrote:He's pretty much null. Like the majority of everyone else.
I could be persuaded. Maybe.
In post 201, Aronis wrote:If you are suggesting a me and monkeyman scum team, that's not helping your case.In post 198, Squirrel Girl wrote:Probably because I'm way more fun to interact withIn post 195, d3x wrote:Why are you taking exception to her Vote, but not mine?
But this is actually a good point...I'm not sure what it would mean, but it is odd. But, isn't the only way it's an issue is that you'd be Aronis' scumpartner?
Why do you think he defended you and even didn't seem to understand the fairly obvious case on you when he did so?In post 197, Aronis wrote:He's pretty much null. Like the majority of everyone else.
I could be persuaded. Maybe.
Mod can we get another VC and maybe Prod GF/empking?
You should claim.In post 221, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Well, that was sure dumb if you actually are a dayvig.
Going for the mislynch/miskill combo, aye?
Why'd you have to be conf town?In post 232, d3x wrote:I'm going for the 'get rid of the scummy players b/c one of them is probably Scum' combo.
Every post? Well not quite. Of course.In post 234, vonflare wrote:Could you be so kind as to quote for me a post where I did something scummy?
Twisting what I said, cutting posts up, making them sound scummy.In post 157, vonflare wrote:I didn't miss them. I excluded them from my quote list because I did not find them terribly relevant.In post 147, Aronis wrote: Of course we're just going to happen to 'miss' these posts aren't we?
And the moment I call you scummy, you edit your reads list to include me as scum? That is the definition of omgus.
Claiming that you were lurking=does not help townIn post 229, vonflare wrote:Wow. I missed a lot.
So, d3x is a day vigilante. Probably means hes town.
VOTE: aronis[/v
I can't convince people who aren't posting or reading the game.
What if we make a pool? For example, spyreX, katuski, and vonflare? Then people give it to whoever they want out of that group. That ways scum don't know who has it, but the town has some organization.In post 243, Kagami wrote:^he's conf town?In post 233, Aronis wrote:Why'd you have to be conf town?In post 232, d3x wrote:I'm going for the 'get rid of the scummy players b/c one of them is probably Scum' combo.
Dayvig doesn't make him conf-town, but his post history makes him close. He's clearly got an itchy trigger finger from the outset, and appears willing to let town-reads have some input on the shot (e.g. 85). Scum d3x would prob want to keep it under his hat for a surprise win if he makes it to lylo or save it for when he's under lynch-threat and could "conf-town" himself then.
Katsuki is obv lying about his role (or that it's anything like what he described) at this point, but I'm not sure how to interpret that.
I have too many scumreads and not enough townreads (High tier: displaced, SG, d3x; low tier: Spyrex). We kind of need to wait for the V/LAs and replaces. Now might be a good time to work out our diablerie plan.
I'd kind of rather give diablerie to someone other than d3x (who I don't want to see NKed) unless he needs it asap. I agree with spyrex that it should go to a low-tier townread (I'm down to give it to spyrex himself, atm, but depending on what happens with katsuki slot, that might be a good place too).
Probably thinks I could use it better.In post 250, vonflare wrote:Are you calling me scum, or are you just saying that I shouldn't get diablarie because it would be better used elsewhere?In post 248, Kagami wrote:I don't want to give vonflare diablerie,
Two people works. There are twelve people left. Probably 3 scum, 9 town. Scum all votes for one person. The town can still overcome that and if you pick two town. You have a win win with whoever gets it.In post 248, Kagami wrote:I don't want to give vonflare diablerie, nor do I think there being uncertainty in the recipient is a good idea. If such a pool consisted of 3 or more people, then it's basically whichever among them scum chooses. A pool of two, even, means that it's scum pick among the two, most likely.
Good luck with that. . .In post 252, Kagami wrote:Because I find people's ideas about it worth evaluating.
Also, I'm unwilling to lynch without a full town anyway.
Didn't mean to hit submit yet.In post 278, Aronis wrote:If he is mafia we're already sunk. . .
Based on this conversation, I am lynching Kagami.In post 286, vonflare wrote:This post makes no sense.In post 285, Aronis wrote:Maybe we should scumhunt and determine who we are actually lynching?
The diablarie discussion promotes, well,discussion, which is used to scumhunt.
So what would you suggest we do, other than discuss? RVS?
Scumhunting is occuring as a side effect of this conversation!
Wow.In post 290, mnemonicdevice wrote:Alright I am back.
I actually am townreading vonflare
and also aronis
What the hell is wrong with you!?!?!
Hmm. . .In post 297, vonflare wrote:What does this mean? why did greyice put the word "NO" after the post?In post 251, Aronis wrote:Probably thinks I could use it better.In post 250, vonflare wrote:Are you calling me scum, or are you just saying that I shouldn't get diablarie because it would be better used elsewhere?In post 248, Kagami wrote:I don't want to give vonflare diablerie,
Truth.
No
VOTE: ArcAngel9In post 300, ArcAngel9 wrote:Please correct me if i am wrong.
So vampire are town and ghoul are scum?
Are there any humans? Is there anyone possibly prince?
I liked the story but rules are pretty confusing.
Actually being helpful-In post 300, ArcAngel9 wrote:Please correct me if i am wrong.
So vampire are town and ghoul are scum?
Are there any humans? Is there anyone possibly prince?
I liked the story but rules are pretty confusing.
Idk about a Prince.In post 304, Aronis wrote:Actually being helpful-In post 300, ArcAngel9 wrote:Please correct me if i am wrong.
So vampire are town and ghoul are scum?
Are there any humans? Is there anyone possibly prince?
I liked the story but rules are pretty confusing.
Vampires are town. Squirrel Girl claimed Miller/Human whatever. So Yes. Ghouls are scum, I think.
I'm 'nicer' to millers, because Ik what it's like to get policy lynched day 1 in one of your first games solely for claiming miller.In post 316, Squirrel Girl wrote:Since you didn't express much doubt of my claim - I'm not sure what it is worth, but that's good to know I suppose