I'll be your strong and steady
You'll be my glass of wine
I'll be your shot of whiskey
You'll be my sunny day
I'll be your shade tree
You'll be my honeysuckle
I'll be your honey bee
VOTE: Honeybee
In post 14, I have no creativity wrote:In post 13, Cutty Shark wrote:...Is this ika or beast? (I am guessing it's ika?
1)I've seen town doublevoters (I can name games off the top of my head with them). Does that change your opinion?
2)Also why are you third party hunting (esp. since you just straight up admitted you don't think mafia would have that role)? The non-neutral clause in the wincon implies that neutrals can (potentially) win with us.
-bork
1) i have seen them too, doesnt change opinion.
2) im stating something obvious, i was not neutral hunting, i was trolling rvs further but now i can break it
VOTE: Cutty shark
serious vote
the wincon clearly states we can not win with them and your respons implies that you dont share town win-con
In post 25, Baboon Pride wrote:In post 22, Nashville Dreams wrote:(Bad vote. you are both town)
That was fast.
I got, like, an eighth of a townread on one of them. If that.
In post 31, Cutty Shark wrote:I am wary of the early town endorsements too; ultimately depends on who nashville dreams' heads are.
(please be nacho)
But I'm not really scumreading ika for anything that happened in that exchange
Don't know that I'd hard town yet but yeah, gut reads fine.
-bork
In post 25, Baboon Pride wrote:In post 22, Nashville Dreams wrote:(Bad vote. you are both town)
That was fast.
I got, like, an eighth of a townread on one of them. If that.
In post 50, Lissa wrote:Hmm.
Nashville should stop talking in verse. Unless they have a post restriction, in which case fine. But if it's not a post restriction, enough is enough!
And they certainly do seem to be jumping to reads a bit quickly. So... Nashville, as 5-Off said, what specifically makes Bork-hydra/Cutty Shark and ika+beast-hydra/IHNC town?
In post 52, Cutty Shark wrote:In post 49, The Fonz wrote:(Specifically - y'all should spot obvious post restrictions when you see 'em).
I've got a couple reasons why I don't think it's a post restriction:
1. This game was advertised as Normal with one bastard element. Post restrictions aren't Normal, and I doubt that the single bastard element is that one slot has to post in verse.
2. Since our vote, they've made two posts with no verse whatsoever and one in which they started with verse and then spoke normally.
Cabd: trolling mara is everyone's TRUE wincon
In post 55, Baboon Pride wrote:In post 49, The Fonz wrote:(Specifically - y'all should spot obvious post restrictions when you see 'em).
Given that it's on theme for their hydra, it's probably self imposed.
In post 68, Baboon Pride wrote:In post 64, Nashville Dreams wrote:Also i don't see how faking a post restriction when it's pretty evident that we aren't going to be doing it for the whole game (well I might, but I don't think my other head will).
It's also not like we are just posting lyrics, but we are actually hunting just not in a norm that everyone is used too.
Confucius say: If no one understands it, why do it?
In post 65, Cutty Shark wrote:In post 63, Baboon Pride wrote:@CS: It reminds me of a certain player in a certain ongoing game in some ways.
Considering I have no idea who either you (I mean I could probably make an slightly educated guess but meh) or your ongoing game person (rightly so) is
This doesn't really advance the read in any meaningful way for me
-bork
In post 76, Cutty Shark wrote:In post 69, Nashville Dreams wrote:Also all these today have been by the same head.
Today as in September 3rd or as in D1?
Yo ika, why haven't you asked for a massclaim yet?
In post 108, gossamer wings wrote:This is my town tone.
I mean did you read my opening post? I don't get any more town tone than that post.
In post 128, gossamer wings wrote:will my tone turn town if i vote the nugget?
In post 127, Cutty Shark wrote:In post 105, Nashville Dreams wrote:Before you requoted it was the same head talking and just in that timeslot like hour or so. I already told you how to tell the heads apart. One is slanting the lyrics.
What I'm getting at is if the vote and unvote on us were the same head (there were no lyrics in either post)?
So how come more people aren't voting Flubbermcnugget?
This has been a post by borkhydra
In post 133, I have no creativity wrote:Are all your lyrics country songs? Because I have been able to place them all so I think you aren't doing all country songs.
Also, You can't be Marquis because I have seen 0 T-swift songs.
In post 149, gossamer wings wrote:Well considering I'm town, so this is my town tone, I'm amused at being told it's not. But they are a secret hydra, and the head that's talking to me is someone I doubt I've played with often if at all, and I'm not really concerned. Even if I don't come across super town right now, it will become obvious soon enough and I don't really detect maliciousness from their interaction with me, so I just feel super light and it's all good.
In post 157, I have no creativity wrote:Hey four, want to 1v1 me right now? Cus your starting to get me in that mood.
Right now im in a good mood so my posts are not too serious but maybe you can get me motivated to tunnel you...
but anyway:
VOTE: nashville
all i have seen recently was neutral hunting and no scum hunting
pedit: wanna chat you 2 im right here.
In post 264, I have no creativity wrote:In post 255, Nashville Dreams wrote:In post 157, I have no creativity wrote:Hey four, want to 1v1 me right now? Cus your starting to get me in that mood.
Right now im in a good mood so my posts are not too serious but maybe you can get me motivated to tunnel you...
but anyway:
VOTE: nashville
all i have seen recently was neutral hunting and no scum hunting
pedit: wanna chat you 2 im right here.
So I'll settle for one day to belive in you
Tell me, tell me, tell me lies
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
(Tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies)
fucking hell, really ika. REALLY.
I am Tammy hunting. I'm trying to figure out her damn alignment. Either let me or get out of my damn way.
My vote on you should not be hindering you in any way.
wait, theres only one person who get irate at me for this offhand....
In post 281, gossamer wings wrote:Seriously don't respond. I'm already annoyed with you and all you will do is annoy me further and I'd rather be able to work with your hydra.
In post 285, Cutty Shark wrote:In post 284, Nashville Dreams wrote:In post 281, gossamer wings wrote:Seriously don't respond. I'm already annoyed with you and all you will do is annoy me further and I'd rather be able to work with your hydra.
Ugh.
this is tammy or Falcon?
^The Tammy Hunter, everyone
In post 327, I have no creativity wrote:gossamer wings(F-16_Fighting_Falcon+Tammy)
-the fact tammy is going on about how she must be town is irking me i know she does it anyway but it feels off
In post 544, 5-Off wrote:In post 47, 5-Off wrote:Nashville, what about Bork and Ika are specifically town to you?
Answer this please, in context of what you believed at that time.
In post 559, gossamer wings wrote:Oh honey bee might just bee the cutest type of newbie.
In post 580, gossamer wings wrote:In post 576, FourTrouble wrote:In post 561, gossamer wings wrote:Some of their points aren't very strong, but I don't see scum intent in their push.
Intent is overrated as a scumhunting tool. Scum aren't wearing their intent on their sleeves. Often, the intent is something like, "get town lynched," and if you don't know if the person they're pushing is town, you have to look at other things than intent. Here, Baboon's pushing town (me). You're not sure on my alignment. So to properly read Baboon, you gotta look at other things than intent.
Which there are plenty of. There is something just as condemning as finding scum intent, and arguably more condemning -- finding a contrived thought process or lack of a thought process. And that's what I'm directing your attention to. Certainty is fine. But scum are faking their reads. So often, their certainty isn't natural. It doesn't reflect their reasoning or the gamestate. That's a scum-tell because it shows that the read is fake. Town can be certain. I'm not doubting that. What's different is how that certainty squares with their reasoning. What I'm pointing out is that Baboon lost their shit when I supposedly stole their idea. And they voted me right after that happened. And their degree of certainty -- extremely high -- was a result of that behavior. I'm calling this behavior a "shiny object" because it is. There isn't anything scummy about it. Does the behavior show that my thought process was contrived? No. Does it show that my behaviors are contrived? No. Does it have any pro-scum effect? No. Does it have any scum motivation? No. I could go down the list of ways to connect a behavior to scum. But it doesn't have any of them. It's a purely null behavior. But Baboon never considered much deeper than surface-level. Which shows that their thought process is contrived.
Which is all to say, who gives a fuck if you can't see their scum intent? That's irrelevant. You'll see it when you realize I'm town -- i.e. they're trying to lynch town. But what's more important is not whether you see their intent -- it's their thought process. Which I'm saying they DON'T have. If they did, they'd have considered whether stealing their idea was scummy. They'd have looked at what the effect of doing that was. They'd have looked at the context in which I supposedly did that. They'd have considered a whole bunch of things that they haven't.
The only response to any of this is, "Well, maybe they suck," which is possible. Except I thought they were very competent as scum, and that applies to both Mara and Ceph, and that usually means they're smart enough to evaluate all the things I'm talking about, when they're town. You also got Mara telling you, point-blank, in this game and in other games, that when she's town, she looks for scum intent behind surface-level behaviors. Which she did NOT do for my behavior.
Thank you for your scumhunting advice!
In post 593, Nashville Dreams wrote:She's been goin' out with him
She's been goin' out with me
Said she'd let us know by tonight
Which one it would be
So I waited by the phone
But she never called me up
Had to know what was goin' on
So, I drove by her house -- and sure enough
Take your pick. Which one is scum? Or are you just going to sat a vague t v s to further your agenda.
Four, work with me here. If Baboon is town, then the scum egging him on need to die right?
In post 611, The Fonz wrote:@Nashville - if you believe FT vs Baboon is town vs town, which of these do you think is the case?
1) Lissa is scum
2) 5-off is scum
3) There are scum in the neighborhood who aren't letting it known they are in the neighborhood
4) 5-off is lying as town
In post 614, The Fonz wrote:In post 613, Nashville Dreams wrote:In post 611, The Fonz wrote:
I am not sure those are the only options. I don't read and assume there is scum in the hood.
I don't. But 5-Off allegedly said there was. So he's either telling the truth, lying town, or lying scum. I mean, I'm not in that thread, so I don't know precisely how it is worded, but the way everyone reacted to it suggests that 'town, sincere, and mistaken' isn't an option.
In post 634, Cutty Shark wrote:In post 609, Nashville Dreams wrote:No. My final answer is you were buddying Baboon. Egging him to vote Four. How hard is it for you to type what you think Baboon and Four fighting is?
I see absolutely no evidence of this
-b
Which is why when I get some time I'm going to search on you because I want to know if you have done it in past games because I don't ever remember you making a comment to that. It comes off as too stand-off ish, too cocky almost which I have never seen you be when have heated arguments, but this one is just never something I have seen out of you in it's own way.
In post 749, Cutty Shark wrote:In post 746, Nashville Dreams wrote:I'm currently working to figuring out those who I have played with prior and then work the way down the line because I rather work with someone whom I know and trust to be town rather than work with a newer player whom I have no skill in reading and be totally blindsided.
I see no evidence that you actually feel this way considering you've pretty much ignored me the whole game
-b
In post 752, Baboon Pride wrote:Tammy, Nashville is probably town.
In post 766, Baboon Pride wrote:Sticky note?
Us, lissa, ft and 5-off afaik. 5-off was the one with the info on the scum rumors