Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

[Elbirn]

Aw man, I rolled scum? I hate playing scum.

VOTE: Elbirn

[Elbirn]

Someone obvtown to me and fast.

VOTE: Elbrin

You're the leading contender...

We vote townies right?

Well we're both voting for scum, so.

[Elbirn]

Votes can change doe.

VOTE: Elbirn

Attagirl. I think if we can get me and titus to l-1 we'll have something to work with

[Elbirn]

Btw I'm at work ;_;

[Elbirn]

Titus, can I join your sekrit klub?

[Elbirn]

Nothing, I just really wanna be friends with titus this game. We had a neighborhood last game and that was pretty cool.

Except then she was scum ;_;


Moving on

I'm really disappointed not a single person took my scum claim seriously. Like did no one notice that? I did it twice.

I'M SCUM LYNCH ME

[Elbirn]

Also Elbirn is no jester, he is a battlecruiser.

[Elbirn]

PokerFace here, I never played suikoden so I will be wiki-ing flavor stuff as needed

@Elbirn,

who are your scum buddies?

You, lickety, and uhm..whoever that guy was who voted me in page 3. Not brantz, the other one.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: elbirn

Your wish is my command.

This scumling right here.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: Titus

We should lynch her before she goes all VCA on us.

Yeah so actually

This is a really shitty vote, and relies on

1. Removing a valuable town tool
2. Knowing that titus is town and will utilize said tool against scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Black Magick

[Elbirn]

@BlackMagick, Which Head Posted post 8? I thought the same as Elbrin but some dumb townies hate my VCA. What's going on with that?

@Elbrin, I really hope you're not scum buddying me.

Well if I'm reading things correctly you're pretty much conftown for reasons that would be anti town to elaborate upon

Soooo yeah, I'm gonna want to work with you.

[Elbirn]

^ my condolences.


Anyone here?



Talk to meee

[Elbirn]

Also, Weirdo Elb noted.

I what m8?

[Elbirn]

Actually, in hindsight: I'm seriously scumreading BRantz

How

[Elbirn]

@Titus 135

Im...not sure. It's 3am here and maybe I need to sleep and reread that to make sure I get it

[Elbirn]

Oh titus nvm I understand, I can be a bit dense at times. 3am isn't a good time for me to be thinking.

Is that yukari posting nonsense and voting Jeanne for dumb reasons?
Stop that yukari.

Not happy with lq thus far.

Uhhhh idk what else to talk about

[Elbirn]

I'm happy with Jeanne for now. She hasn't done much yet but she has a very casual tone. She feels relaxed. I liek it.

[Elbirn]

I don't like you Scumreading me so early. You got a reason?

The majority of your posts have had this unnatural vibe about them. If I felt like explaining in detail greater than that right now, I would have done so already, but generally you'll find I'm a fairly lazy early-game player.

@Ranger, your move to LQ feels slimy to me

Deal with it. I'd be there no matter how many votes were on LicketyQuickety because he's my strongest scumread. That others beat me to the punch is unfortunate, but irrelevant to my rationale behind voting there.

These posts feel townie. Casual, idgaf town.

[Elbirn]

Understood, boss *salutes*

[Elbirn]

I mean I know I claimed scum and all to encourage wagonz

But it's a little late for that now dontcha think


Titus, is Jeanne a Nincompoop?

[Elbirn]

Why the fuck do you think Elbrin's scum? That seems pretty dumb. Your confidence is out of nowhere.

VOTE: Elbrin

The last time Jeanne went crazy, she had scum. So I get the message.

.-.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: LicketyQuickety
Die scum..

Fire is that you?

Fire quick help me I think these two are Nimrods o.o

[Elbirn]

Well if it'll save me from the craziness

I guess apples?
Unless nectarines are an option, I'm quite partial to them.

But I've never had elderberries and idk what a jujube is. I'd play it safe and go with apples, they're tasty and crisp and it is fall and therefore the season for them.

[Elbirn]

Nah, you have to answer after a Votecount. Nectarines is not an options but yeah I can see you wanting apples.

I'm not certain what a votecount has to do with anything...

Are the apples for me? If yes, I won't object but I think that'd be better used for someone else.

Maybe reasonablyrational wants em

[Elbirn]

So titus, what's your favorite fruit/vegetable?

[Elbirn]

Cuz he's scum?

[Elbirn]

It never was

Pedit: thanks fam

[Elbirn]

Apples Figs Kiwi boooo

Nah I like figs, apples and kiwi can burn in hell doe

[Elbirn]

RRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Graaaah! Gwarrrrr! KYreeeeeh! Kyrrrr!!

...........

Oh.

[Elbirn]

RRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Graaaah! Gwarrrrr! KYreeeeeh! Kyrrrr!!

...........

Oh.

Huh?

Iso bright. Yeah, betcha didn't even notice his existence.

Well he either has a post restriction or is faking one. Delightful.

[Elbirn]

I don't think Wgeurts was even reading the whole thread when he posted that.
That vote seems pretty silly IMO.

Come on Lickety.

What's this? Isn't Firebringer already playing in this game in another hydra?

Yeah he hydra slipped.

[Elbirn]

Yukari claims to be a tulpa; a sort of self induced schizophrenia practiced by Tibetan monks or some shit. Essentially he has 4 personalities or minds who comprise his being

On top of that he is hydra'ing with fire bringer, bringing one more chaotic mind into the fold




I'm gonna need a drink

[Elbirn]

I am here and making a fluff post to let you all know I am here to talk

I'd also like to use this post to note that I am in 4 games atm. And that's the most games I've ever been in at once and I don't actually have that kind of time. Whups. So yeah if I'm ever absent that's why. Also my sister had a baby early this morning and Halloween is tomorrow so things are happening don't be surprised if I'm not here for a while

Also lq pls no bully yukari I'm pretty sure he's roleplaying and if he isn't then man I don't know reality is an illusion who am I to judge his worldview he's still interesting af to play mafia with

---

Anyway enough fluff who wants to talk to me?

[Elbirn]

LQ, your reads on BM and Elbrin....

Elb, is being really out of character and I can't say I like it.

BM, don't know, they're not on my radar at all.

What do you think of me? I want to know if you like me? :-p

Titus, how could anyone not like you?

Hi.

Elbrin or BM, who is scummier and why?

Between the two, I'd say Elbirn. His play reminds me of Devil Elbirn from Midnight Sun.

Really? Cuz I don't think it "looks" anything like it. I still think its messed up and is going to take me a while to figure out what the heck he is doing.

Jeanne, while I get your vote early, both of you are still arguing hypothethicals. You're letting scum coast and not providing solid reasons for your read. Let's take a chill pill and let Elbrin LQ BM and RR hang themselves by trying to lurk it out.

Elbirn, I can see as Scum here. BM IDK. RR is pretty Null to me.

Whaddya peeps think about lq's thought process here?

I found it interesting that he says I'm off, then says I'm not like our other previous game WHERE I WAS SCUM, then says I could be scum.

On the surface it looks kind of inconsistent, but I can see a confused town lq going "wtf is he doing" "well he's not acting like the other scumgame.." and finally "nah fuck it I don't like him he's scum".

[Elbirn]

Nah, I've played with titus scum recently and it's not this. I believe in the power of my gut, she town breh.

Nice try doe

[Elbirn]

Hm you might be right.

Why do you mention ranger?

Also, do we need to purge 3 fruits?

[Elbirn]

Jeanne you're right to scumread lq, but "he claimed town" isn't the reason for it.

Bad premise, correct conclusion.

[Elbirn]

Oh lickety you responded to me saying something about bullying and that was only half serious ,idk I musta misread something. I also didn't know you had that condition either D: that's rough homie

Also I didn't think you were being mean to me at all with the testicle bit, I do have a more conservative scum game than town game anyway as you've seen xP it'd take proportionately more balls to try that as scum methinks

[Elbirn]

I feel like half the playerlist is gone and it makes me sad.

It's just me titus lq and Jeanne talking in circles

[Elbirn]

I have a good feeling about mulberries, I think they'll fit in to our recipe just fine.

[Elbirn]

@suzune: I'm pretty sure titus is just batshit crazy and I've been playing along because it's funny XP You should try it, it's fun.

What's your favorite fruit suzie q?

[Elbirn]

Taxicab?

*whispers* Have you spoken to the wizard?

[Elbirn]

PokerFace here, I never played suikoden so I will be wiki-ing flavor stuff as needed

@Elbirn,

who are your scum buddies?

.......this was a good response?

Lolwat

[Elbirn]

*nods knowingly*




*I don't get it*

[Elbirn]

Well that parts understandable, but I can't see how anything can be drawn from that post and that kinda makes me want to say that she's just full of hot air.

Pedit: what in the world is a wagon sensor?

[Elbirn]

Well that parts understandable, but I can't see how anything can be drawn from that post and that kinda makes me want to say that she's just full of hot air.

Pedit: what in the world is a wagon sensor?

Titus wanted my reads and that's all I have so far.


A wagon sensor is able to tell how many Scum were on a particular lynch wagon. I believe it's a 1-shot ability.

Sorry I wasn't insulting your reads, that first part was directed towards RR >. <

[Elbirn]

"You are the best person."

-Elbirn,

Space Dandy Mafia

OFFICIAL UNOFFICIAL ELBIRN VOTECOUNT

LicketyQuickety (4):

Suzune, Ranger, Firekari, Titus

Titus (3):

Blackest Magick, wgeurts, Bright

Elbirn (2):

pistachi0n, BRantz

Blackest Magick (2):

Elbirn, Jeane11

Jeanne11 (1):

LicketyQuickety

Not Voting (2):

Klingoncelt, Reasonably Rational

With 14 Alive, it takes 8 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-11-11 18:55:00)
Steal my pagetop again, I dare you.

[Elbirn]

Dafuk is AUA

All umbrellas alliance?
Avacado unicorn arsonist?

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKERS DO YOU SPEAK IT

YOU KNOW WHAT PAGETOP

*YOU* CAN GO TAKE A FLYING FUCK AT THE MOON

My pagetop now, jerkface.

[Elbirn]

Oh nvm I get it.

[Elbirn]

The paranoid side of me is coming out.

Ohhh man, I will be mad if Elbirn and Kiling are scum. They both seem town to me.

-Fire

Read Elbrin's guesses closer. He knows. Wrong order.

TBH that wasn't intentional and I probably shouldn't be given credit for that.

[Elbirn]

Hey Elbirn, how you doing man?

-Fire

Pretty good, if my calculations are correct we have several people here who are just bloody obviously town and that just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I think if we lynch majick today we're hitting scum. LQ would be nice as well but I feel like his slot will be easy to read if he'd post more. Like if he's town we should see it. He's a good day 2 lynch if he hasn't gone obvtown like morning sun part 1.

[Elbirn]

"You are the best person."

-Elbirn,

Space Dandy Mafia

OFFICIAL UNOFFICIAL ELBIRN VOTECOUNT

Steal my pagetop again, I dare you.

My pagetop now, jerkface.

Ayyyyyyyyy lmaaaooooooo

[Elbirn]

Okay, well Titus is actually probably Town in this.

I hate to call it so early with Titus cause last time I called it early for her she was scum (the flashbacks of LOTH II creep up)

This feels town her.

But I have been wrong about that before.

@Titus you see what you do to me?

-Fire

See

Even in lotht, when I trusted her and had a bit of a townread on her, I still had this troubling feeling in my gut like something was wrong.

Here titus is just bleeding obvious town and idfc.

[Elbirn]

I feel the weather heating up. Did the seasons change? Might have to move up the timetable and change which two fruits to plant.

Elderberries aand....hm. apples perhaps?

[Elbirn]

I don't think ika palms are a good idea. If it has to be one of the 2, I'd go with elderberries.

[Elbirn]

I don't think LQ is scum either.

But why? ;_;

[Elbirn]

So......what do the farmers say?

I say this whole thing was pointless, yielded no results, and I'm mad at you/titus for starting it early and without keeping me in the loop/waiting for me.

But I'm really trashed from last night and I also barely slept, and did so in my car at that, and I just don't have the physical or mental capability to play this game today

Pedit: Titus are you fucking kidding me? You're voting lq for voting Jeanne, when he already scumread her and if I'm not mistaken believed that his options for voting were either himself or her?

[Elbirn]

And what reason would I have to vote lq? Gee it's almost like I did exactly what you said you did: didn't vote for lq or Jeanne because *I knew there would be a derp ass quick lynch if everyone had to choose between voting him or Jeanne*, and so I kept my vote on majick.

If lq is town then scum is....everyone you've been working with? And fucking WHY?

VOTE: Titus

This is bullshit I'm mad I'm going to bed

[Elbirn]

UNVOTE:

I need to reevaluate. I can't remember if my vote on titus was because I was pissed or if there was something to it that I can't remember because I was still fucked up yesterday. Also I read the past like 10+ pages that have happened since Saturday morningish and I retained hardly any of it so I need to do that again.

Me, suzune, Jeanne = bloody obvious town seriously stop it
RR = good vibes and rainbows here
Titus = pending review ,will honestly probably wind up back in the "town bloc" when I stop being a pissbaby
Ranger = same as titus but a little weaker, she feels really town to me but I'm willing to reconsider after RR's last few posts
Bright = I don't know 100% who's controlling the dragon doggie, but my guts fairly sure they're town. I know that's bullshit idc.

LQ said some shit about me that I'm about to tear to shreds if you'll bear with me.

Don't like wgeurts either.

Black majick is scum but I forget why, Brb rereading

Uhm...who else is in this game? Brantz has done nothing. Has he been prodded? Pistachi0n is crap. Klingon hasn't given us much content but I'll throw her a bone, she's a weak townread. I can *feel* it. I really wish I were townreading firekari but idk if I am anymore

[Elbirn]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7341485

it's varsoon dicking around

LOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL

TOP KEK M8S

[Elbirn]

You haven't done anything to personally insult me lq o.o I meant that as an ingame jab, not a personal thing. I really don't get outofgame personally mad at anyone, I just have a sometimes abrasive, aggressive playstyle. Don't take it personal. But anyway thanks for reminding me to attack you!

I read Jeanne11 as Scum still.

I also read Elb and Suzune as a mild scum read. Suzune looks opportunistic and Elb hasn't done anything in a while.

I can't tell if Titus is still working a gambit or if they are just delusional at this point.

RR looks to be null as well as most of the other lurkers.

So this post was shit. I get a scumread for not being her for like 36 hours, over fucking Halloween weekend, and when I took the time to drag myself in here half hungover and half stoned and told you all that I was too fucked up to play with you gaiz. And fuck let's not forget that all of Saturday the thread was locked because titus and Jeanne blew their load early on the gambit. And I've been one of the most active contributors of this game. But nah fuck me I'm "lurking". Which is totallllly a scumtell, or something.

Why are people saying Elb is obvTown?

Wreugets, could you point me to like 3 or so posts by Elb that you like?

Elb plays a very conservative Scum game. How's he not doing this as the game has progressed?

How have I played conservatively at all?

Is claiming scum in my first post conservative? Or maybe it was the part where I joined titus and Jeanne in their gambit, that was a p conservative move wasn't it.

Tldr your read on me is shit and it makes me feel that your thoughts aren't real.

[Elbirn]

Join me Elbrin.

As much as I'd love to lynch obvscum with you, I'm gonna park my vote on his buddy until deadline. I think we'll get more out of seeing who besides me decides to vote lq.

VOTE: Blackest Majick

Who's ready for unfounded bullshit by the way?

So scum-majick is all like "man what the fuck is this bright guy"

"I better find out what this is I bet it's a town double voter or something ROLE FISH ROLE FISH"

"Oh it's just varsoon being an asshole, okay here you go guys"

The end
*burps*

[Elbirn]

....nah I lied that's dumb.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: LicketyQuickety

[Elbirn]

I read the past million pages and have nothing to add *sips soda*

[Elbirn]

Am I now town?

If you vote LQ the answer might be yes

[Elbirn]

Vc yes, everyone else while not very active, have still posted within the last 24 hours. I think prods are 72 hours or 48 hours by request but idk everyone's rules are different I think

Prod Policy was changed for this game (since it has less players/shorter deadlines) to being 48 hours.
It was up to 72 hours when I was running SU mafia because nights were 72 hours and had a ton of actions to process.
No one is eligible for a prod as of VC 1.12, anyway.

[Elbirn]

We have 2 scumleans, 1 null, and 1 townlean on Kling.
~Yukari

Mfw I realize that this post all 4 of yukari's tulpae plus firebringer voicing their opinion on one player

Mfw I have no face

[Elbirn]

Considering that LQ is clearly today's lynch idk what you're upset about.

Also I'm not feeling klingon scum here, so that counterwagon doesn't really appeal to me.

[Elbirn]

Jeanne nothing you are saying is grounded in reality. Please chill.

[Elbirn]

Jeanne nothing you are saying is grounded in reality. Please chill.

This is scummy, you're dismissing an argument without explaining why.

There is no argument, Jeanne has just been babbling incoherent nothingness. I don't understand her anger that no one is listening to her when it's literally one person townreading lq and the rest of the town against lq. He's the majority fucking wagon and she's bitching like we're all too dumb to see that he's scum like holy shit I'm sorry we haven't put him in the ground fast enough for you your highness Jesus tittyfucking christ

Anyway your post here was bad, anything relevant to say?

[Elbirn]

Forgot Wgeurts.

How many lean towns do you have?

Not a lot.

I have some either/or:

If Wgeurtz is Scum, Ranger is Town,
if LQ is Scum, Jeanne is Town

On the one hand, dichotomies are gross and scummy.
On the other hand I'm happy klingon is saying things.

[Elbirn]

Lq/blackmajick/pistachio

If only the game were actually that easy to solve. *sighs*

[Elbirn]

Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

FOUR LEGS GOOD TWO LEGS BAD

[Elbirn]

Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

FOUR LEGS GOOD TWO LEGS BAD

Huh, not sure what to make of that.

Beasts of England, Beasts of Ireland,
Beasts of every land and clime,
Hearken to my joyful tidings
Of the Golden future time.
Soon or late the day is coming,
Tyrant Man shall be o'erthrown,
And the fruitful fields of England
Shall be trod by beasts alone.
Rings shall vanish from our noses,
And the harness from our back,
Bit and spur shall rust forever,
Cruel whips no more shall crack.
Riches more than mind can picture,
Wheat and barley, oats and hay,
Clover, beans, and mangel-wurzels
Shall be ours upon that day.
Bright will shine the fields of England,
Purer shall its waters be,
Sweeter yet shall blow its breezes
On the day that sets us free.
For that day we all must labour,
Though we die before it break;
Cows and horses, geese and turkeys,
All must toil for freedom's sake.
Beasts of England, Beasts of Ireland,
Beasts of every land and clime,
Heaten well, and spread my tidings
Of the Golden future time.

[Elbirn]

Would the members of the LQ wagon please kindly state your reasons for being on said wagon? And, LQ, you haven't told me why Jeanne is scum to you.

-Cerb

FOUR LEGS GOOD TWO LEGS BAD

Are you more or less equal than us comrade?

^ dis guy
Dis guy right here gits it

I agree with Ranger.

@RR Answer this: If LQ is town, why doesn't he know what AUA is?

I'm town and I didn't remember what AUA was until I reread my role pm so I'm calling it a null tell.

------

I find the fact that lq didn't immediately claim his restriction and didn't immediately pm the mod and didn't immediately vote is really fishy.

LQ what happens to the dragon if we lynch you?

[Elbirn]

He dies Elb.

Hm.

UNVOTE:

You're not off the hook by a long shot, I'm just not happy with you sitting at l-1 atm.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: LQ

FOUR LEGS GOOD

[Elbirn]

But no really lq being double voter doesn't mean anything when any role can be any alignment and scum double voters are a thing regardless

[Elbirn]

RR you're either unlynchable, the role, or you're a blowhard, or you're scum trying to sound like you're unlynchable the role so that later on when we call you out on it you can backtrack and claim you're just a blowhard.

Fortunately there's a very easy way to verify this, and if it works you're conftown. Like why the fuck not?

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

After we get a hammer on you and you don't die, can we lynch Blackest Majick please his posts give me cancer

[Elbirn]

We never claimed to be unlynchable by role.

Then I will hold you to this as a defacto claim that your role is NOT lynch proof, and if you say otherwise later on I will put you in the ground.

Now then.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Blackest Majick

[Elbirn]

And ranger is scum because...?

[Elbirn]

Speaking of which firekari can you conftown today like you said? Pretty please with sugar on top?

[Elbirn]

Scum are buttbliterated, let's hurry up and kill BM and pistachio and games over

[Elbirn]

RR I'm sorry I called you a blowhard sometimes I just get mean

Ily all this was a great game

[Elbirn]

Lynch Order:

Blackest Magic
Pistachion
Brantz
FireKari
Suzune
Ranger
Jeanne
Me/RR

We need 5 people to agree to this to work as a bloc and then stick to it ignoring all others trying to break the plan as that's what scum needs.
Quote and say aye if you're up for it, I'm one so that leaves 4 more. I'll hammer once this is settled.

I'll do this until BM and pistachio are dead, but if that happens and game still isn't over then we need to re evaluate.

[Elbirn]

Actually no fuck it as long as we don't lynch me/jeanne/rr/wgeurts the game is won regardless, fuck it I'm down

[Elbirn]

I move to have klingon added above brantz and below pistachio.

[Elbirn]

.....with no claim wgeurts?

[Elbirn]

*Pours one out for the fallen homie*

So firekari what's the deal with you conftowning

[Elbirn]

If you had asked me to take a bet on who it would be, I would have been wrong...

For the nk you mean?

Who did you think would have been nk'd?

[Elbirn]

*popcorns*

Don't have much to say here, FireKari and ranger are doing some good work.

Considering the extreme likelihood of there being 1 scum left, wgeurts and RR can't be lying. 4 scum in a 13 player setup would br too much imo. That's an endgame after 3 day/night phases if no scum lynched, 2 days/nights if there's a vig that takes a shot at town. That's way too short a game. Arguing in favor of balance and a well made game, there's one scum left.

So....I think I'd consider it a mild town tell that firekari and suzune (I think?) Even consider the possibility of wgeurts/rr being scum? I'm tired and I might be logically faulty here cuz I slept for 4 hours, but idk man my brain told me that scum couldn't think that because they know there's one scum left, so they're only pretending to hint for 1 scum.

[Elbirn]

Jeanne actually makes the most sense as a kill. Widely townread and her being alive gives us the neighborhood, whereas everyone else has at least some paranoia on them.

Brantz you keep telling us to kill you before lylo. If you have a negative utility role nows the time to claim it I think.

[Elbirn]

Yeah nah.

This was not advertised as a bastard game. Ipso facto brantz is lying. And you know what we do with liars.

VOTE: BrantzVOTE:

[Elbirn]

VOTE: brantz

[Elbirn]

Wgeurts that doesn't make sense. We have last scum pegged,so let's lynch town today and then vig the scum?

What?

Brantz is being lynched today.

Pedit: attaboy.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: Brantz
Elibern what is your role?

I claimed it in the hood browdawg. Didn't you read it? ;_;

[Elbirn]

VOTE: Brantz
Elibern what is your role?

I claimed it in the hood brodawg. Didn't you read it? ;_;

*fixed

*yes this really required a followup

Anyway flavor is just flavor don't get in a tizzy over it yukari

[Elbirn]

...yeah but I claimed it before you got there. I was in the neighborhood for like a day and then she swapped me out for you and that's the last I saw of the thread. You didn't see my posts?

[Elbirn]

When doesn't matter. It's an alignment change, alignment changes are bastard. You're lying and therefore scum.

[Elbirn]

That is fair Elbirn, I thought about doing it in my response to ranger, but didn't want to out anything else if people didn't want that.

Claim: I am Georg Prime.

I am a VT until lylo, at which time, I turn into a survivor.

VT isn't "neutral", it's vanilla town. Town faction.

Turning into a survivor seems to imply changing from town aligned to 3rd party/neutral. Alignment change.

*sigh* but maybe this is babbling semantics and I'm way off and or idk what you guys are right let's lynch pistachio.

[Elbirn]

Oh yeah I never confirmed. Yes the writing on the wall is true, I am ace, wall writer and ability accounter guy

[Elbirn]

I think the most important thing is that we use the wall to play hangman or something seeing as its now useless

Hangman is not useless! This is a game about lynching people, after all.

[Elbirn]

Okay so I'm spit balling here, but assuming I understand everyone's roles correctly best play would be this.

We lynch pistachi0n

Klingoncelt vigs Brantz

Ranger should change mark and vote to fireKari (if firekari is scum we prevent the nightkill. No nightkill means scum is fucking with us or fire is the scum, i.e. can't reliably determine alignment, but we've prevented a town death. If nk happens then firekari is confirmed town.)

Suzune...uhm.... we've run out of people to target. Activate your ascetic if you haven't yet. Tomorrow night you'll choose someone to redirect to you?

I'll use my accounting ability on....anyone really, idk what it matters lol.

[Elbirn]

Also using roles to determine alignment is shaky at best. Varsoon designed roles that made sense by flavor, and then randomized the alignments. There's an awful lot of roles here that would be good as scum,maybe even better.

[Elbirn]

Suzune, you claimed both abilities are 1-shot so I want Elibern to confirm that.
A self-redirector could be a scum role especially as we have no cops

Also using roles to determine alignment is shaky at best. Varsoon designed roles that made sense by flavor, and then randomized the alignments. There's an awful lot of roles here that would be good as scum,maybe even better.

But yeah sure I'll accountant suzune

[Elbirn]

No, don't Ascetic tonight. Let Elibern check to see if you really do have 2 1-shot abilities, if you speak the truth then this will confirm it.
Anyway, BRantz you're confusing me, please explain your role again.

If I check her and one ability has been used,it'll still show she has the ability. It'll read as like, suzune has two abilities, the first has 0 shots left, the second has 1 shot left.

[Elbirn]

Oh feck I didn't think about that.

I think my ability would take last priority for action resolution but ymmv

[Elbirn]

Claiming an innocent on a mason is just lol

[Elbirn]

Because he's scum

[Elbirn]

Can I just hammer pistachio?

[Elbirn]

Roles have nothing to do with alignment.

[Elbirn]

Yeah look I'm about to just hammer pistachi0n with no ragrets and then let klingon vig brantz.

Like that's the play here regardless, kill both of them.

[Elbirn]

Pistachi0n is likely town.

Where in the world are you getting this?

Real talk I've been thinking brantz might be town, but not pistachio

[Elbirn]

Where the hell is ranger

[Elbirn]

Okay, so I kept my end of the bargain and did not use my aestic power so that I could be read by Elbirn. So what were the results of your finding?

Suzune has two abilities, both of which have one shot each

[Elbirn]

I'm bored someone tell me what I should be doing

[Elbirn]

VOTECOUNT 1.20 : LYNCH

LicketyQuickety (

LYNCH

):

Ranger, Suzune, Firekari, pistachi0n, Jeanne11, Titus, Elbirn, wgeurts

Titus (2):

Klingoncelt, LicketyQuickety

Ranger (1):

Blackest Magick

Bright (1):

Reasonably Rational

Blackest Magick (1):

BRantz

wgeurts (1):

Bright

Not Voting (0):

VOTECOUNT 2.04 : LYNCH

Blackest Magick (

LYNCH

):

Ranger, Elbirn, Jeanne11, Suzune, BRantz, wgeurts

Reasonably Rational (1):

FireKari

Ranger (1):

pistachi0n

Not Voting (3):

Blackest Magick, Klingoncelt, Reasonably Rational

Disclaimer I'm bad at this game idk how vca works but I like to toy with analyzing lynches

I don't think suzune or ranger bus both of their buddies

I don't think double voting firekari gets put on the same team as pseudo doublevoting LQ

That leaves klingon, and I think it's suspect that the night she uses her vig there's no scum kill. If she were a scum vig, she'd only be able to do one kill yes? If I'm not mistaken the flavor for the vig was different which points to her doing it, sure, but where's the scum faction kill

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Oh and look I know you guys have some odd plan to just not talk and then talk all at once or whatever but that doesnt...really work for me, I'm a phone and I can't just like save a draft of all of my thoughts and writings and post it when we're all online, which won't happen anyway. Sooo I've gotta just say things when I can and when I want, ya feel me?

[Elbirn]

When I have time I'm going to review suzune/ranger. I'm starting to wonder if I have a misplaced townread, klingon2ez.

[Elbirn]

So like

I'm busy but I really wanna give this game some loving

But I agree that klingon is likely scum and I kinda just want her dead today regardless.

Firekari should be in the "never lynch pile" imo, suzie and ranger both are super town but suzie fooled me before and ranger...idk what if she really is the world's hardest busser. Did we actually look at her reasoning for voting both of those two?

[Elbirn]

Wait why are we blocking firekari when they're town

Silly ranger block suzie

[Elbirn]

Suzune why are you evaluating the alignments of two claimed masons

[Elbirn]

Acknowledged, will twiddle thumbs and wait patiently

[Elbirn]

Klingon constant complaining that the game is too confusing is really fake

[Elbirn]

*twiddles thumbs*

[Elbirn]

DEAD

[Elbirn]

Are you dumbshits serious? Like how many times has it been stated that role has zero bearing on alignment, I pretty much have a pm from varsoon stating as such. lol no you are not lynching me on your shit simple setup spec it will never happen

And I haven't done anything since day 1? Fuck off, I pegged both of the flipped scum on day 1, lynched them in succession, and then day 3 has been *waiting for you to tell us what to do.*

Eat shit.

To answer your question

1. I write on the wall
2. I can see how many abilities a player has, excluding factional abilities (i.e. scum pt) and how many shots are left of said abilities

<3 from elbirn

[Elbirn]

I agree that role has zero bearing on alignment. However, there are more factors than just your role in play here. There's a very small pool of people I find are possibly scum, and you're in it.

-Cerb

"I agree that role has zero bearing on alignment"
*entire case consists of vig not making sense as a scum role but role cop does*



*slow claps*

If you're really so Gung Ho about klingon not being scum (she is) then it's suzie q or ranger Rick. Go for it.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

[Elbirn]

Finish him.

Klingon is a she, wgeurts.

[Elbirn]

And I haven't done anything since day 1? Fuck off, I pegged both of the flipped scum on day 1, lynched them in succession, and then day 3 has been *waiting for you to tell us what to do.*

Honestly, we still find it a bit suspicious both how early you nailed scum, and the way you went about it:

PokerFace here, I never played suikoden so I will be wiki-ing flavor stuff as needed

@Elbirn,

who are your scum buddies?

You, lickety, and uhm..whoever that guy was who voted me in page 3. Not brantz, the other one.

It also looks like you were borderline defending LQ at times. Additionally, if klingon were to flip town then there was for sure scum-bussing happening this game, and PoE is a bish.

1. So you're telling me that as scum my master plan is to out all of my buddies in rvs, shortly before bussing the fuck out of them

If you actually think I'd be that bad as scum then I am insulted.

2. Almost kinda sorta borderline not constantly attacking him for being scum, almost as if I were trying to suss out his alignment and not join the screeching hordes who wanted his head?

Like really I can think of two instances that you might be referring to, the first is when I quoted a few of his posts that I almost saw a glimmer of hope in, like "oh lq is trying to figure out my alignment. That's good!" And the second is when, just before his lynch, I took him off of l-1, to think things through....and before moving back shortly after. You're telling me that as scum in this situation I don't just sit on his wagon and wait for it to go through for maximum creditude?

[Elbirn]

*town, you mean?

At that point it's between suzune and ranger, suzune recently duped me as scum so idk if I'm so confident in my ability to read her. Ranger could be it, I need to evaluate her read development on lq and Blackest majick, the fact that she was first on both is interesting.

Tldr I need to reread

[Elbirn]

Titus

was assassinated on Night 1. She was

Apple : Student of Warfare

, aligned with the

Allied Unification Army

.

Apple's role functions as follows:

Spoiler:

Titus - Apple

Student of Warfare (Allied Unification Army)

Leave it to me.

You can't overcome this war just by getting stronger. Twice per day, you may write a message to any another player. She used to be a strategist, but now she is making way for new blood. Once per game, you may use this power. I will lock the thread and give everyone 24 hours to submit a vote to me. When the thread unlocks, each vote will take effect at once. I am prepared. You win the game when all threats to the Allied Unification Army has been defeated and at least one Allied Unification Army player is alive

Jeanne11

was slain on Night 2. She was

Elenor : Inspiring Tactician

, aligned with the

Allied Unification Army

.

Elenor's role functions as follows:

Spoiler:

Jeanne11 - Elenor

Inspiring Tactician (Allied Unification Army)

A fight won't be pretty.

You have to be firm in your purpose. That's the duty of a leader. Once per day, you may target a player to give them back 1 use of any limited shot power they may have. With an alert mind, you'll be able to make better decisions. Once per game, you may invite another player to become part of Neighborhood with you. Twice per day, you may exchange your current neighbor for a different one. The new neighbor will have access to the same neighborhood used and will be able to see all posts made by previous users. Are you absolutely sure about this? You win the game when all threats to the Allied Unification Army has been defeated and at least one Allied Unification Army player is alive

Pistachi0n

was slain on Night 3. She was

Egbert Aethelbald : Aging Eccentric

, aligned with the

Allied Unification Army

.

Egbert Aethelbald's role functions as follows:

Spoiler:

pistachi0n - Egbert Aethelbald

Aging Eccentric (Allied Unification Army)

Filthy Devil!

You have to send exact copies of this letter to twenty-seven people within twenty-seven days. If you don't, you'll be a 'filthy devil.' You may tag a player. That player may then tag another player, passing on the ability to tag as well. You will always be informed of the last person who has been tagged. Any player who is tagged but who has not tagged another player takes one less vote to lynch if you are voting for them. After about a hundred years ago, all record of the Aethelbald family suddenly stops. So Egbert´s either a crazy old man, or he´s a crazy, honest old man. 1-Shot of your choice between Cop, Doctor, Vigilante, and Roleblocker. He´s not the most coherent fellow around. You win the game when all threats to the Allied Unification Army has been defeated and at least one Allied Unification Army player is alive

You all have so many questions and accusations for me and I'll get to them

But how come titus was assassinated and Jeanne and pistachi0n were slain?

[Elbirn]

Hmm. So you're willing to hammer klingon even though it seems you've found no expressed reasons why elbirn is suspicious of LQ, thereby (I assume this is the effect your information should have on our reads) removing any real town credit elbirn should get for being on those lynches?

I mean, I'm not sure I agree with the significance of those fscts (BM waa an easy default lynch due to lack of scumhunting, and elbirn informed of the whole titus and fruit situation, so he could have had plenty of reason not given within the thread, or could have simply been sheeping the individuals he was in communication with).

-Cerb

Yeah look I'm Elbirn and I play by gut, I look at people and see that they're scum. LQ was not being himself and ~☆I saw it☆~. I've played with town lq and it's obvious. Blackest Majick was playing like shit and we all saw it. Like idc lol they were scum shits

[Elbirn]

I'm working and it's kinda hard to post as such

I still think klingon needs to die but I'm a little gun shy and I kinda think it could be suzune actually but idk

[Elbirn]

As a reminder, flavor does not reflect mechanics.
It was recently brought to my attention that the lynch/kill flavor was not consistent.
This was not meant to indicate a different kind of lynch or kill. The flavor written for flips/lynches only works to build a narrative and does not reflect any mechanical elements of the kill/lynch. If a kill or lynch is meant to be significantly set apart from normal kills and lynches, this will be indicated in clear, non-flavor related terms.

Yer a peach, ty for clarification

[Elbirn]

PokerFace here, I never played suikoden so I will be wiki-ing flavor stuff as needed

@Elbirn,

who are your scum buddies?

You, lickety, and uhm..whoever that guy was who voted me in page 3. Not brantz, the other one.

*Cough*
Hey Elbirn, let's hydra or play on the same team sometime down the road.

You know what I want for Christmas varsy-bay-bee? I wanna be on a scum team with you, that sounds like a treat. Whenever we're both town I scumread you for whatever reason, being scumfucks is probably the way to go.

[Elbirn]

I want to nominate this town for a scummy, but I am afraid it will be vain.

Come on

DEW IT

[Elbirn]

But yeah I'm proud as fuck of this game, as a team effort and also all of us as individuals. Like I don't think I've had a game where I had damn near 100% correct reads. Pistachio I was wrong on, brantz....did I change my mind on brantz at the end? I wanna say I did but who knows.

I really did kinda think klingon might have not been last scum tho, all the stalling made me gun shy and then I was scared of ranger and suzie xP

But yeah, for everyone else was like "damn son I see you"

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I actually like brantz role? Well not so much like as it is that, well, it's just a survivor, but made less shitty. It's an improvement on a not liked role.

Survivor: don't die. Enjoy not having fun.
Brantz role: be town. If town wins or you don't die you won

I see no problem here

[Elbirn]

Pfft, we'll just have to be masons.
Or one of us will have to roll cop when we're both town.
Or, yeah, let's scumbutt it together.
Find a game.

Oh fuck you're right I lied I wanna be masons I H8 playing scum

Well idk you do have antics and such that would make scum fun.

Anyway, dammit man I'm trying to cut back on this shit xD let's see I'm in one game now...and I know I'm gonna get tricked into playing one of your upcoming games which is 2. At least. Then playing one with you is 3+ oh hell naw you are the great satan fueling my mafia addiction pls no

Fuck I gotta go think about my life

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Oh but there is good news, after months of playing solely on my phone, I remembered that laptops exist and I possess currency. So I'm gonna have that going on. And I'll maybe start modding games here and there...? *shrugs eternally*

[Elbirn]

It's not like advertising or doing all this work will make it go through the queue any faster.

I really shouldn't put so much effort into my games, most people probably don't notice or care.

Actually your enthusiasm for your games is pretty infectious and makes them all the more enjoyable. Keep it up mane.

What's the time frame on this steven u prequel by the way? Is it already in queue? *looks*

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Oh, ranger! First off I liked that whole end of game wall thingy you did for everyone with advice, I love when people give me ideas on how to improve, because I always strive to up my game. When I grow up I wanna be the best mafia player evar. So yeah ty. I do agree with you, I've developed this style of "lol idc I think this guys scum because gut and im gonna be obstinate town about it" and then that's it. I could probably stand to be a bit more cooperative cuz if klingon wasn't scum, I'm sure I was getting lynched next.

And as an added note, if I'm not mistaken you're pretty much brand new here (but not to forum mafia), but you're p good. You've got a good head on your shoulders, my only disagreements might be with your role usage but then I'm still confused kinda on what it did and revealing that your role was opposite of what you said maybe there's something I don't get so *shrug* xP

[Elbirn]

Okayokay

I can make room in my life for *one* more game. But 2 games is my limit from now on.

Sooo I'll in for steven u prequel ^^

[Elbirn]

@Ranger: lucky you, I've been here over a year and I've been night killed ONCE. By varsoon oddly enough.

Feels bad, it's like what I'm so bad no one wants me dead? *sigh*