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drealmerz7 stands apart from the group that wish to become evokers gathered in the great chamber. He watches them all, studies each of them carefully, and takes it all in. He hears them talk of spells and the trial that is upon them as if they were adolescents organizing a game of kekbal.
Evil is here, there is no question. We are served with a task and we must begin it immediately. Distractions only allow the enemy to grow it's advantage. And there is no doubt, they are at the advantage. Only the most skilled will survive, that is apparent, he just hopes that the strength of the uncorrupted will prevail over the influences of darkness.
Unobserved and in one flowing yet subtle gesture, he focuses his powers inward and then casts them outward. No words are spoken, but the impact is felt by the entire group.
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drealmerz7's voice emanates through those who care to listen's ears, but still, he does not speak...
I wouldn't say it's an argument, just a preferred position. I think now is not the time to get into game theory unless the group wants to have a big discussion about it right now, it'll just be distraction, though. As long as it is understood that I will not be parsing discrepancies between brains. If there is an issue, your slot (any hydra slot) will have to account for it to me as an individual entity, "we disagree" will be viewed as a dichotomous position held at a single point in time, and I consider it grounds for reading as scum and for placing my vote - reason: blatant contradiction of position. My slot can't think ____ is simultaneously scum and town and get away with it, neither can your slot. <--That sort of special treatment.-
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This seems contradictory. If you think townSondam trolls hard and they are scum, their serious position as scum could be to do what they think would get them town-read, which would mean trolling hard. That's taking the role as scum seriously.In post 258, Fire Assassin wrote: Sondam seems like a user (or hydra in this case) who will troll hard as town but take the game serious as scum.
That's assumptive. Some players just play differently at times.In post 260, Mega Frozen wrote:
A tone change or formallity makes it like your cold and you don't enjoy the current interaction. From a social point of view it hints to the other person to drop the converstaion and if it was anyone else I guess they would without thinking about this.In post 258, Fire Assassin wrote:Do you mean like distancing scum do from teammates or just not interacting?
I am guessing the first since I am interacting with you.
I don't see why a tone or formality would be a issue with you beyond you never playing with this style of me.
Its something happenes unintentionally. I just want to know what is the reason. Is this somehow a way you want to play the whole game or was it occasionally with me.
I have this problem constantly in mafia and is a big way I scumhunt, because after I go around-around-around a few times and they still aren't getting it I usually have a good read as to whether it's intentional twisting of words and misunderstanding to cause frustration, or genuine lack of connecting minds.In post 269, Prism wrote: Trying to understand someone else's argument while calling it pure shit-without ever hearing it-is not trying to understand someone's argument. It's assuming they're wrong from the start.-
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In post 59, BTD6_maker wrote:I think the vote spell is unlimited use and cannot be passed on. Only spells for night actions (excluding factional scum dark magic such as nightkills) are passed on compulsively.
I doubt there is a Vigilante spell in this game, though, because it would immediately be destroyed N1 and I doubt Nahdia would want a spell like that. Thus the only kill probably comes from scum's dark magic.
If something like a Cop or a Doc or other role were to land in scum's hands, couldn't they just pass it back and forth between themselves every night, effectively taking out a TPR? If scum cannot target scum then we can break the game by analysing all spell transfers to rule out partners so this is probably possible.
Yes, BTD6 is Town. I'm ready for another exciting game of "is Dunnstral Town".This sounds like filler of saying nothing.
Who is more likely to have thoughts about vigs? I think scum do.
Role/ability spec like this is scum.
So I went back and saw 51 which sounds possible that he knows more than I do about the evil faction. Those 2 posts together warrant my vote.In post 87, Nosferatu wrote:
I have a problem with this but I can't articulate it, which bothers me; so I'm going to regress to a younger state of development and call you and idiot.In post 51, BTD6_maker wrote:Dark magic is probably just the scum's factional kill. Scum can probably also use regular spells normally.
idiot.
The reason for my FoS - 87 it sounds possible that Nosferatu is scum-buddies and is GRRR at scum-buddy for talking as they did and this is their way of saying "yooo, careful!" The FoS only becomes meaningful if I am right about BTD6, if I'm wrong about BTD6, it will make Nos a townlean for me because yes, I too "have a problem with this", but I can articulate it, that you can't seems questionable.-
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insurance if a player isn't sure their bud is reading the PT - and then you just WIFOM the coaching point as you just did while at the same time:In post 423, Nosferatu wrote: scum has daychat so there's no point to coach in-thread.
it also becomes a convenient spot to plant a town-cred seed for later (because you didn't articulate what you saw wrong with it AND your comment came after my vote is what allows me to think is - you could be anticipating the problem with BTD6 and trying to get ahead of it)
I'm not saying that I think it is all this ^, I'm just pointing out that such a consideration is in my awareness.
My main focus is on BTD6, and if Nosferatu also feels something wrong with BTD6 similarly to how I do, why is she focusing on me instead of our common discomfort in BTD6? It's just more things to note as I keep my focus on BTD6.
This is the only real read I have so far, so I share it.
Nos, can you work on articulating what you feel is off/wrong about BTD6 (or whatever wording YOU want to use, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth) ?-
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No, only BTD stuck out as a bit scummy about it, both in the words he used (seems like maybe he has more knowledge than I do about evil powers?), and the vibe I got from his involvement. I didn't get it from others who were involved as much. I don't apply generalities. I go case by case basis, in each situation, not even from game to game or person to person. Just because 1 person was like this in this game, doesn't mean that their same behavior means the same thing in this other game. Yes, it is important to look at and analyze those things, but you can't just start generalizing meanings, and so you certainly can't do that from individual to individual in a game. 1 person talks about something because they think it is good to talk about, another talks about it because they know it is causing confusion to do so, and a dozen things in between.In post 469, BATORU wrote: The first bit that you said was saying nothing I believe was part of the general conversation in the thread at the time, so you either find everyone who was talking about it to have been fillering & scummy rather than speccing about the mechanics, or you find the original person who questioned it and turned the thread focus that way scummy, or you should find it a net null imo.
I find a lot of times scum don't think before posting and are just excited to talk about the things without realizing it's scummy to talk about the things / or that they might give slips if they talk about the things. I find this is what is possible here, that he didn't realize he had terminology available to him that was not available to others and went to talk as if it was shared knowledge when it wasn't. It's been a bit now I should probably go re-read and see how it all progressed and if I still feel that way about it.In post 469, BATORU wrote:
What do you think BTD's motivation would be for posting that as scum? What do you think his motivation would be for posting that as town?
So I went back and saw 51 which sounds possible that he knows more than I do about the evil faction. Those 2 posts together warrant my vote.In post 87, Nosferatu wrote:
I have a problem with this but I can't articulate it, which bothers me; so I'm going to regress to a younger state of development and call you and idiot.In post 51, BTD6_maker wrote:Dark magic is probably just the scum's factional kill. Scum can probably also use regular spells normally.
idiot.
The reason for my FoS - 87 it sounds possible that Nosferatu is scum-buddies and is GRRR at scum-buddy for talking as they did and this is their way of saying "yooo, careful!" The FoS only becomes meaningful if I am right about BTD6, if I'm wrong about BTD6, it will make Nos a townlean for me because yes, I too "have a problem with this", but I can articulate it, that you can't seems questionable.
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and that makes him scum here why?In post 514, Gamma Emerald wrote:OKAY HERE'S THE FUCKING DEAL
WISDOM GOT CAUGHT AS SCUM BY SONDAM IN A PAST GAME
WISDOM IS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY TRYING TO FEARLYNCH
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they tried, they failed, yet they sit on it because the know it has failed yet if they are the first to jump off, well...where do they go anyway? they need to just wait for the next wagon to build anyway...soooo
let's start another one and see which of those on this one hop over to the next one and how it relates, and, hey, play mafia!!!-
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chara reads town from all of that for me
I could probably do dunn, nos, pisskop today, BTD6 fell off the radar in the game a bit, not reassuring in either direction and I didn't verify the things about him I wanted to yet, but his ISO still is questionable, evenso, he's not more scummy than those other 3 by far, so
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the reads don't match "exactly" at all...we see some similar stuff, but the main thing is that the results of the reads are very similar in that I've got nos, piss, dunn, all rounding out the top of the suspect list for me. I've had them there since way before you made your posts, at least a few days (hadn't unvoted BTD6 because I had meant to re-read and see if I wanted to keep it there, removed now because he doesn't warrant it at this point until I do and get more, and even so, the other 3 are wayyy more scummy)In post 840, Not Chara wrote:did your three scumreads (beyond BTD) match mine exactly before my reads post?
the way you went about it feels very town to me and it made me feel good enough about me reads to state/reiterate them (I think I've been more vocal about nos and piss, but not dunn, but dunn has been registering scummy a lot of the game so far no doubt)-
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I like you, what can I say?!In post 842, Not Chara wrote:
not sure where reading comprehension failed on: 'Dunn picked Sondam as an early scumread then held that read through the entire game, with little evidence of re-figuring in response to new information, and without the fervent tunneling that could be seen as something towny.'In post 841, Dunnstral wrote:Don't understand what you're accusing me of but I probably didn't do it-
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HAHAHA ohman, that sounds soooo guilty!!!In post 841, Dunnstral wrote:Don't understand what you're accusing me of but I probably didn't do it
like when a mom simply yells out her kid's name from another room "MICHAEL!!!"
"I didn't do it, mom!!!!" (whatever it was I don't even know but I probably did do it and so just REFUSE DENY!!)-
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I asked you 2 questionsIn post 855, Wisdom wrote:good attempt on trying to discredit me
do you ever answer any questions?
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that shit is absolutely baseless, you just like calling ppl scum and town based on if you like them or notIn post 858, Wisdom wrote:and so the scum escaped the d1 lynch by trying to be reasonable and likeable
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I mean the making of 2 posts, making a pause and space between the fake "mod..." (which wasn't bolded) and the "oh wait nm" - yes it was deliberate, to make everyone go "EEE!" for a split second and then "ohh" in the next postIn post 868, Not Chara wrote:what does this mean? it's kind of a weird error, honestly. are you implying you did it on purpose?
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hmmm, I still think it is more effective in 2 posts for ppl who read in the future, they have to scroll a bit more and the 1st thought completes as a complete thought before leading to the 2nd one
I contemplated merging it, but, then decided to split, for effect
I do get creative once I get more into a game, D1 is hard for that (I try to start off with passionate play and enthusiasm, but when ppl poop on it so fast, it is hard sometimes, plus it can get in the way, I try hard to not let it get in the way though)-
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like I said, I could haveIn post 877, Nosferatu wrote:
^^In post 874, Not Chara wrote: i don't see why you couldn't put them both in the same post.
it was for effect, decidedly
those paying attention, when reading the 1st post, will realize it is a joke (because it's a frikken JOKE, addressing the mod about me thinking a player has HACKED THE SITE because he claims to have seen my PM... I mean, ...yeahhh....)...the 2nd one is just a re-iteration of it being a joke for those who are in doubt - anyone else is probably scum looking for a reason to paint me as scum!-
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Yep, but it wasn't like aIn post 881, Not Chara wrote:
unsure of how i feel about this explanation. did that much thought actually go into your minor joke? normally these things are more spur of the moment.In post 876, drealmerz7 wrote:hmmm, I still think it is more effective in 2 posts for ppl who read in the future, they have to scroll a bit more and the 1st thought completes as a complete thought before leading to the 2nd one
I contemplated merging it, but, then decided to split, for effect
I do get creative once I get more into a game, D1 is hard for that (I try to start off with passionate play and enthusiasm, but when ppl poop on it so fast, it is hard sometimes, plus it can get in the way, I try hard to not let it get in the way though)lot of thought, it's how it processed in my brain, quite quickly. Went to type it, realized the space was better. it was all in 1 fluid motion 1 post to the next. I am a quick wit. not to be confused with nitwit-
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more words and communication in order to reach clarity is never a bad thing, unless you're scum wanting things to remain muddyIn post 889, Not Chara wrote: but the explanation after explanation is a bit much.-
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAIn post 926, Wisdom wrote:okay youre dodging my point-
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is this accurate?
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