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VOTE: TSO
Because I don't trust him.
In post 150, dragonspawn wrote:In post 145, Shinobi wrote:What are we waiting for? Pile votes onto TSO.
Let's go.
@Dragonspawn: Your needless obtuseness has been noted.
I am so getting lynched at this rate lol.
unvote
vote: shinobi
I really don't like being told what to do. And per my earlier discussion with wake it seems like this is a good way to get more info to analyze.
In post 180, Aeronaut wrote:Eh, you can check, I've never played a game with him.
He still hasn't commented on that post, either. But of course, neither have I
In post 168, Shinobi wrote:Because, uh, it looks okay and I can see how you think those things.
In post 189, dragonspawn wrote:In post 175, Shinobi wrote:Oh.
No, it's not necessarily a "crusade" against TSO for not doing a thing; rather, he's a player I'm intending to focus on during this day. I've played with him three times and townread him in every game I played with him. He was mafia in two of those games. I have absolutely no idea how to read him properly so I want to start pressuring him out of the gate to see what he does when the spotlight on him early.
Sure, his not posting while he should be posting bothers me, but that's not why I'm doing what I'm doing. If this is how you intend to handle my TSO pressure, then I'm perfectly okay with that.
I don't have a problem with you pressuring him at all. I have a problem with you telling the rest of us we need to.
In post 191, Aeronaut wrote:In post 188, Shinobi wrote:In post 168, Shinobi wrote:Because, uh, it looks okay and I can see how you think those things.
Eh
In post 198, FA_Q2 wrote:The TSO wagon seems to be forming far to easily for someone that has not even posted yet. I would think that this is worthy of a prod but I am suspicious that scum is simply jumping onto the easy wagon that has an 'excuse.'
In post 96, Aeronaut wrote:Ok. Let's generate discussion
@Everyone: what's the biggest flaw in your towngame? Your scumgame?
In post 225, dragonspawn wrote:In post 223, T S O wrote:I forgot this game existed. My men, I'll forgive you by personally digging the graves for the dead bodies of scum after I lead the charge in hanging them.
Let's get down to business.
and whose grave are you starting with?
In post 274, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 268, Cheetory6 wrote:Busy as fuck this week. Quickly glancing at the game Silver linked while I have some time and I can see the difference in how much Silver directly interacts with people in the game Silver linked vs here. I still feel kind of weird about some of her posts before, but if this many people are claiming metatells then I'll settle for reading through a few of her games later this week when I have more spare time.
VOTE: FA
His switch from a decently-reasoned vote on Grib to what reads as a dumb jokevote on Shinobi is vomit. Even worse is that he softpushes Grib shortly afterwards and then does nothing to engage Shinobi.
@FA, what're your updated thoughts on Shinobi now that he's explained his intentions behind pushing for a TSO wagon?
decently reasoned? They were both random votes. Gribs original statment read to me like a simple conversation starter, not really worthy of scum reading. There are pages and pages of random garbage in this game.
Shinobi's 'reasoning' is meh IMHO. He says he was 'pressuring' a player that was not even here and in need of a prod.
In post 341, House wrote:In post 336, elusive wrote:It's interesting because I see what you're saying but you're also removing kind of an aspect of the game that remains as a record. I mean votes are also done for reactions.
However, since you aren't voting - what do you plan to do - just scum hunt until you're ready?
Fight the PEER PRESSURE TO DO STUFF.
It's kind of scary.
This is a towny post.
In post 425, Aeronaut wrote:In post 423, Shinobi wrote:@Cheetory: I'm not sure. I feel like I'd like a bit more out of him because his current lack of activity bothers me, and the way he consulted his wagon was pretty much exactly how I would handle it if I were scum. Someone of his townreads seemed very empty. I don't feel particularly satisfied by what I've received, especially since I know he's going to read me as town either way because I know that he knows it sates me.
The only other person I would consider switching to would be acryon, for his #401. It felt like mafia trying to egg on bad analysis, especially since he didn't really seem to follow it up with anything.
Wouldn't you also scumread boon for giving said bad analysis?
In post 454, acryon wrote:In post 423, Shinobi wrote:The only other person I would consider switching to would be acryon, for his #401. It felt like mafia trying to egg on bad analysis, especially since he didn't really seem to follow it up with anything.
So you don't think there was anything wrong with that line in Dragon's post?
That being said, my vote is still on vikingfan, because his posts have looked much worse than dragon's. I've got an FoS on dragon though.
In post 452, SilverWolf wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out why he's scummier than vikingfan.......................
Yeah, he isn't.
So looking at the votes:
Boon was the first to vote dragon
Pisskop sheeps Boon’s reason
Grib adds to vikingfan
Aero adds to dragon for the same reason as Boon and pisskop
Vikingfan jumps on dragon
Klingon places his vote for vikingfan (although the intent was clearly there already)
House jumps on, stating he is sheeping
Kitz jumps on vikingfan for disliking the way he addressed the dragon wagon (which has a nice ring to it
Nakedjogger jumps on dragon for being defensive
Giving us the following VC for those two (pretty sure):
vikingfan: acryon, SilverWolf, dragonspawn, Grib, Klingon, House, Kitz [L-4]
Dragonspawn: Boonskiies, Pisskop, Aeronaut, vikingfan, Nakedjogger [L-6]
The dragonspawn wagon certainly smells like a counterwagon to a scum wagon. If it is, I suspect Aeronaut the most on the counterwagon (and of course vikingfan). Came in third on the wagon only after it clearly had a little traction and just sheeped Boon's reasoning (which isn't bad in and of itself, but it's hard to tell if Aero had his own reasons).
In post 510, Aeronaut wrote:In post 509, Shinobi wrote:>Agrees with boon on dragonspawn.
>Scumread on dragonspawn disappears based on nothing.
>Summarizes useless information for no reason.
I am happy with my vote.
Can you elaborate on this?
In post 561, dragonspawn wrote:In post 559, Shinobi wrote:In post 510, Aeronaut wrote:In post 509, Shinobi wrote:>Agrees with boon on dragonspawn.
>Scumread on dragonspawn disappears based on nothing.
>Summarizes useless information for no reason.
I am happy with my vote.
Can you elaborate on this?
I fail to see what else needs elaborating.
wouldn't the wiser move to elaborate anyway or at least ask specific questions on what he needs fleshed out?
just started strengthens my less than town read on you.
In post 691, Aeronaut wrote:In post 689, Shinobi wrote:Will probably start posting again when acryon is around.
Why is your posting dependent on Acryon?
In post 693, vikingfan wrote:In post 689, Shinobi wrote:Will probably start posting again when acryon is around.
is the scummiest thing I've seen this game. There are NINETEEN other players in this game and you need a player to post before you start posting? This almost looks like scumlinking but I can't believe scum would be this dumb. Still UNVOTE: VOTE: Shinobi. I can't think of one aligment-based reason this is a valid post.
In post 698, elusive wrote:vikingfan, it's interesting to see you posting like a real player now, are you being coached or?Since it may turn out that you are the lynch for toDay, who do you think town should look at closely if you flip town? Can you do a last reads or will post?
Wake88, vikingfan wrote in a post that he found it interesting that the response to his V\LA was for players to buss him while the response to Grib's V\LA did not result in bussing. That read like a massive scum slip to most, I think. I'm more interested in what people think should happen once he flips either town or scum. If he flips scum do they look at those who were voting him at the time of the post? Does that mean Grib needs to be looked at? Etc.
Aeronaut, you can start now.
In post 706, dragonspawn wrote:In post 704, Shinobi wrote:How would you draw the conclusion that he was being coached without knowing about encryptors?
maybe I'm still new ay this but what do encryptors have to do with this?
In post 809, T S O wrote:Shinobi, have you sorted me? Because I just remembered I was townreading you for saying you were going to do so, and I liked your early game pushes because of that, but you've faded out for me from then on.
In post 823, Shinobi wrote:@TSO: The questions you asked in regards to his role pm looked completely meaningless. Sure, Iguessyou could potentially catch someone messing up their role pm but it all seems so convenient after he softclaimed.
In post 828, Aeronaut wrote:(It's to see if the claim is legitimate)
In post 838, T S O wrote:Why didn't you comment once about the viking wagon despite doing so for dragonspawn repeatedly?
In post 849, elusive wrote:In post 847, Shinobi wrote:@Kitz: I don't see any discrepancies with ABR's play.
Can you describe his town meta vs. his scum meta?
In post 969, FakedBlogger wrote:He can't see cuz he's got these green lights where his eyes should be.
In post 981, T S O wrote:I don't really know what to make of the Kitz wagon - it certainly sprung up very fast, but wagons on scum can happen fast too.
In post 1003, Shinobi wrote:In post 981, T S O wrote:I don't really know what to make of the Kitz wagon - it certainly sprung up very fast, but wagons on scum can happen fast too.
After his #842, where he makes a big fuss about people voting Boon, he has absolutely no issue with ABR doing the exact same thing with his vote, in yet drops the entire issue he had over nothing and starts voting with his scumread without explaining why.
In post 1006, T S O wrote:"Oh, well TSO is voting this guy, I better make up a bullshit defense! Too scummy to be scum... perfect!"
When I asked you to start sorting me again it didn't mean randomly fucking disagree with everything I do for no reason.
In post 1008, T S O wrote:it's because vikingfan was being insanely opportunistic with his vote and just sheeped ABR with no organic movement off his previous target