Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #26 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:38 am

In post 8, Cabd wrote:Yeah. It has.

This guy's been gone a while so he's bsing

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:38 am

In post 11, Lapsa wrote:
And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

Genesis 1:3
VOTE: Cabd

VOTE: Lapsa

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #36 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:48 am

@Lapsa stop pushing sentence structure.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #50 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:23 am

Also yay cats! That witch avvie tho...

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #109 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:34 am

In post 77, Elbirn wrote:
In post 74, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Woah, this game started already? Time sure flies by fast during the holidays.

VOTE: Elbrin
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice BEETLEJUICE!

I'm Bart Simpson, who the hell are you?

Okay so alisae pine and cabd are all town

Alisae, I say this respectfully, but the kitty thing is kinda overdone. It's...every single post of yours.

......Unless you have a post restriction, in which case carry on I guess?

VOTE: Lapsa

Are post restrictions allowed in normal games?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #110 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:35 am

In post 84, Titus wrote:No. You're BFFs with Death. Elbrin Cabd Sonia Alisa and Pine are all my BFFs

what about me tho

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #111 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:36 am

In post 85, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:My BFF's are Titus Cloud Gerry and Andy 2 aren't even playing makes me cry.

Elbirn's reasoning feels like he came up with something on the spot like he didn't expect anyone to question the tr's

kek Andy kekekekek

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #112 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:37 am

In post 91, Cabd wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Reasoning?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #113 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:38 am

In post 102, Titus wrote:
In post 101, Alisae wrote:Titus why do you think Gamma is not a BFF?
He's null. Too early.

Got it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #115 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:45 am

Lapsa scummy, maybe Elbirn
Pine, Alisae, Sonia town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #117 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:48 am

Not really, and it would probably piss off Sonia. They're early reads.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #119 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:52 am

In post 118, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 117, Gamma Emerald wrote: it would probably piss off Sonia.

snickers
now you've peaked my interest

I'm saying explaining my reads would piss you off, not the reasoning.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #122 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:56 am

Why do you not follow your accusation with a vote?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #135 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:32 am

How is Lapsa town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #138 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:35 am

Serious explanation plz.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #306 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:25 pm

In post 145, CloudKicker wrote:Hi baby boo, still cant read my scumgame

scumclaim
VOTE: CloudKicker

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #750 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:24 pm

Hi
There's 30 pages now wtf

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #754 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:01 pm

Can someone summarize the last ~25 pages plz?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #781 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:03 pm

In post 774, Cabd wrote:That would be fair regarding gamma if he weren't actively posting elsewhere. He's got this game on the backburner on day one. Wonder why.

Pardon me but I was MIA for about a day. Now you guys have inflated the thread and I can't really follow.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #782 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:03 pm

In post 780, Elbirn wrote:
In post 774, Cabd wrote:That would be fair regarding gamma if he weren't actively posting elsewhere. He's got this game on the backburner on day one. Wonder why.
I believe in this

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GammaEmerald

Let's get his attention!

Jeez, pardon me for putting this off because I can't do tabbed browsing rn!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #784 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:05 pm

In post 767, Alisae wrote:btw, I feel as if Gamma town, mostly due to being annoyed the fact that the thread is 30+ pages, but that's honestly just a gut feeling with nothing really to back it up.

In post 783, Alisae wrote:Titus are ya able to articulate what those feelings are exactly?

VOTE: GammaEmerald
I'll just leave this here until I'm satisfied with you.

I'll leave this here

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #786 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:09 pm

Okay but your read is swayed a bit too easily.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #886 (isolation #22) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:23 am

In post 843, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 834, Nero Cain wrote:I am specifically talking about http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67071

I can't think of any games where town Titus ignores me and then tries to wave off my vote as vindictive or something.
I'm reading this Street Fighter mafia Titus + Nero combined ISO and I don't think this is the same situation. Looks like you had a real reason to push her in that game, where she was contradicting herself in a couple of places about a wagon on Beeboy and where she wasn't defending her TR or something like that. I don't usually look at past games as evidence but I decided to this time for reasons.

Alisae, Titus, Gamma: What are your reads on the other 2 players in this list?

VOTE: Alisae
This looks scum, the buddying is stinky and she continues to sit around asking others for their opinions on situations. I don't like the show of solidarity with the Aj wagon to so quickly jump off of it. Too much fence-sitting and sheeping from this slot, and is now not voting 34 pages in.

Please be aware that I'm not fully current, but from what I've seen Alisae is null-scum and Titus is sorta-town, because I need to see if Titus deserves the town leader spot.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #888 (isolation #23) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:25 am

In post 848, Titus wrote:*crosses arms over chest*

I like none of the three biggest wagons. I would vote Gamma at deadline but *shrug* I don't feel it.

Alise I don't really feel is scummy either.

Including voting yourself?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #917 (isolation #24) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:19 am

In post 893, Titus wrote:
Mod: Transcend is on Gamma too.

Not really, no actual vote.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #919 (isolation #25) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:22 am

In post 906, mozamis wrote:People who arent posting/lurkers
LIL, NERO, NERFS, TRANSCEND.

Bound to be at least one scum here.

Given you skimmed how am I not here.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #920 (isolation #26) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:22 am

Although tbh I don't like the lurker lynch generalization here.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #937 (isolation #27) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:43 pm

In post 935, mozamis wrote:
In post 925, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Agree with Kyouko and the nulls. Convince me on Cloud.
The guy - to use his own qords - was "aggroing the whole town". Put himself right in the spotlight. Borderline VI. He's not scum.

I can get behind this thought.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #947 (isolation #28) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:35 pm

ill try to not be a sack of potatoes tonight

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #953 (isolation #29) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:54 pm

How is what I've said suspect?
I'm definitely going to attempt to catch up tonight btw

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #955 (isolation #30) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:01 pm

Well that's because I'M NOT CAUGHT UP, MEANING I CAN'T ANALYZE JACK SHIT!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #957 (isolation #31) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:06 pm

In post 169, CloudKicker wrote:Lets fish for a reaction !!

This works never. You stated the test.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #964 (isolation #32) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:25 pm

In post 187, CloudKicker wrote:Also calling me scum and saying i cant read you is like saying im town with bad reads :3

Who is saying this?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #971 (isolation #33) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:29 pm

In post 183, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Cloud
Joey flipped scum.

In post 184, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Don't act like you can read me Joey you won't get far.
those reads are also shit.

Yeah this feels like a scumslip. Seems to know CK is town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #973 (isolation #34) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:30 pm

In post 968, Cabd wrote:...Face-palm. gamma, it might be better if you put your catch-up into one larger post instead of inflating the page count by another 10 pages?
Since you weren't here "live" a lot of your questions are either already answered or no longer relevant. A little editing and consolidating goes a long way.

Don't worry I'm taking Excel notes so it won't be too bad.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #978 (isolation #35) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:35 pm

Yeah no it just gets worse.
VOTE: Sonia

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #979 (isolation #36) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:35 pm

In post 193, Cabd wrote:Can we not? Past games don't really matter now and RNG doesn't care what you were before.

This is one of the best posts ever.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #982 (isolation #37) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:37 pm

btw I loled when CK said Sonia towntells. Her other account has stated she always gets read wrong.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #983 (isolation #38) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:38 pm

In post 205, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Na my weak point is Ate or Andy cause he's great

I'm sorry but I have to point out just how much I love this post.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #989 (isolation #39) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:46 pm

In post 229, CloudKicker wrote:Alisae the pregame comment is a reference to epicmafia where theres a pregame lobby

Oh you play there? Who are you there?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #992 (isolation #40) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:49 pm

In post 242, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5, Cabd wrote:Hi guys ~f

I'm masons with Penguin_Alien btw.
I CC

vote: Cabd

I don't really like Pine's vote on Lapsa, ditto Gamma.

In post 38, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Wouldn't the mod tell us if scum have daytalk or not?
didn't you do this exact same thing as scum one time?

I can understand this sentiment. The wagon was a little too easy to form. Same with Elbirn.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #996 (isolation #41) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:56 pm

In post 271, Nero Cain wrote:I think the Lapsa wagon was shit and wouldn't be surprised to see scum on it.

I concur and feel that Elbirn's is the same way.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #998 (isolation #42) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:57 pm

In post 994, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:My old avatar will return after christmas, most likely. Might do a different pic of her.

Lapsa was it you that was going to case Titus today or was it the other way around? I think both of you said you'd case the other actually so dazzle me

Pic of who?
I intend to get a new avvie after Christmas too, of one of my favorite anime characters.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1004 (isolation #43) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:03 pm

I'm getting the NES Classic the morning it launches.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1013 (isolation #44) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:13 pm

In post 313, Titus wrote:
In post 311, Cabd wrote:Thing is scum-Lapsa has more to gain by letting it sit instead of antagonizing me about it; on the off chance an actual town PR counters/setupspecs.
I will agree that there's a scenario where scum-lapsa doesn't think that through and sees an easy method of attack not realizing the implications, yes.
Yeah, one thing beeboy taught me is scum do not like mason claims. If they let them sit, it's bad and forces their hand. We may have to agree to disagree for now, since I don't think your Lapsa defense comes from a dark place.

Thoughts on Lannister and Uzi?

Good point my dear friend.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1015 (isolation #45) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:14 pm

In post 1006, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1004, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm getting the NES Classic the morning it launches.
It already launched a while ago?

For some reason that's the new version's name.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1016 (isolation #46) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:15 pm

In post 1014, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I rather deal with filler than noise. The latter is a lot worse in my opinion.

What's the difference?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1019 (isolation #47) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:17 pm

In post 1018, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1016, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1014, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I rather deal with filler than noise. The latter is a lot worse in my opinion.
What's the difference?
Noise is actually distracting as opposed to filler and allow for scum to hide easier in my experience.

Can you state how each looks though?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1021 (isolation #48) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:20 pm

In post 318, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:For the record, the only question that was thrown my way from Elbrin was one asking me who am I after he declared he was Bart Simpson. I didn't think he was serious but I guess to answer, take a look at my wiki if you want to know more about me.

In post 290, Alisae wrote:
In post 285, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I also like when she posts more seriously, it's attractive.
That is strange word to use. Whatchu mean by attractive?
Alluring.

I like what I see.

In post 292, Elbirn wrote:
In post 285, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Well, feels like my vote is in the right place. I do agree with the town read on Alisae though and I'm sure a quick meta dive can confirm how she's been described for those who do TR her. I also like when she posts more seriously, it's attractive. Her questions and reads feel like they're coming from town.
Yeah, nah. You don't get to keep your rvs vote on me, not explain why, and then instead of talking about why you think I'm scum go off on a tangent about alisae instead. Tell the good people of this thread why I'm scum

Square up, you bout to catch these blessed hands

Gladiate: Lil Uzi Vert
I think it's pretty obvious why you're being scum read but if it wasn't, please refer to Sonia's 85.

I'm upset I'm not among the players you like.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1024 (isolation #49) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:20 pm

In post 1020, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1019, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1018, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1016, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1014, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I rather deal with filler than noise. The latter is a lot worse in my opinion.
What's the difference?
Noise is actually distracting as opposed to filler and allow for scum to hide easier in my experience.
Can you state how each looks though?
Noise is that fake claim Gladiator stuff that had the players online at the time in a frenzy.
Filler is what you, me, and Kyouko were just doing.

No, I feel the fakeclaim from what I saw was a reaction test.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1025 (isolation #50) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:21 pm

@Alisae: I've played with Uzi a couple of times and I think he's cool, so I want him to like me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1028 (isolation #51) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:24 pm

In post 325, Elbirn wrote:
In post 324, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I also don't like that there doesn't seem to be any signs of scum hunting or attempts to do so in his ISO.
Ah, that old "he hasn't done anything disregard everything he's said" line. Classic meme bro

The "this guy is doing nothing" logic pisses me off.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1031 (isolation #52) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:26 pm

In post 334, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 331, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I don't think it's in the list of approved roles for a normal game according to the wiki at least, although normals are sometimes allowed 1 abnormal role or maybe 2 in a large. Idk I don't see it being legit
Let's not start to self-destruct here. It's not and probably never will be.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... rmal_Roles

It's greylisted.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1032 (isolation #53) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:27 pm

@LUV: I understand. But it was still a "notice me senpai" moment.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1037 (isolation #54) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:36 pm

Why is Titus the town leader btw? Is it just based on reputation? Who has taken issue with her being town leader?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1039 (isolation #55) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:39 pm

In post 355, Titus wrote:I do have to admit, the gladiate, if real, neuters my vca too...

This is horrible. VCA still works with gladiation.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1041 (isolation #56) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:40 pm

In post 1038, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Because she's mama and moms know best.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1047 (isolation #57) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:44 pm

In post 369, CloudKicker wrote:VOTE: gamma[/vote| hi

Wait was I on at this point? I think I might have been. Yesterday was crazy for site-related stuff.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1049 (isolation #58) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:45 pm

Fuck my battery is near dead and I'm only halfway done.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1054 (isolation #59) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:49 pm

In post 384, Alisae wrote:OOOOOOOOOH I thought that was refering to something you said not what he said. Okaaaaay, I'm starting to understand. I iz bad at reading.
BRB ISOing Tywin

Wait so you want someone else's thought on a slot without sorting the slot first?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1055 (isolation #60) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:54 pm

In post 387, Alisae wrote:This post and the next is for Tywin.
In post 87, Tywin Lannister wrote:At work so can't post or read anything yet, but confirming. VOTE: Alisae cuz hi! And OMGUS! .
The OMGUS part is something I would not expect from you in the RVS stage.

In post 238, Tywin Lannister wrote:2. Alisae voting Cloud. Cloud looks like the scummiest player in the game so far IMO. I will write more on this in another post (on my phone, ease of use difficulties). My overall feeling though is that Cloud is scum. He is definitely pretending to be the vi. Posts look forced, content looks useles/all fluff, no real game evaluation, and he isn't trying to find scum. I can't see how anyone would get a TR off of cloud at the very least, and not knowing his meta, I'd say that this VI throwaway excuse is a bad one. VI = liability/anti-town, and it's a catch-all to remove scummy play. I know I've played the carefree VI as scum in the past, and it works on those who don't read/pay attention/evaluate the game past the current page. It makes the supposed carefree VI look active, but it's not playing the game to lynch scum. It's there to pretend contribution/activity and avoid the lurker suspicion . If he is the VI every game as he claims, then he should reevaluate his play. There are always players that are lynchbait in every game they play, but most at least try their best. Cloud isn't trying at all to be pro-town. Therefore, cloud gets my vote.
What about me voting Cloud at this point of the game? What do I have to do with this wall of text?

I've used OMGUS as an RVS reason before.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1057 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:56 pm

In post 405, Lapsa wrote:
In post 400, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You seen to be latching onto Titus and the blonde girl I think her name is sonia
Moar:

In post 72, Pine wrote: Moar Lapsa votes please.

In post 75, Alisae wrote:Sure, I'll vote
VOTE: Lapsa
Alisae is a town bike.

What? I loled irl when I saw this
battery almost dead yo

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1059 (isolation #62) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:59 pm

In post 410, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Yeah MariaR is my alt.

This is the other account I have been mentioning FYI

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1061 (isolation #63) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:00 pm

In post 412, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:kk getting back to those Tywin and Alisae reads now that I'm sober.
Leaning Town on Alisae, not as sheepy as I thought, that was just the word I used last night to describe her very early play involving the introductions and all. I think the only sheepy vote she had was on Lapsa After she dropped the catposting things looked a lot better from her.
Tywin the play looks scummy so far, could wagon that if he keeps on the way he is and the right people are voting him, but not right now.

There are scum here in the bold:
In post 176, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.3Lapsa 5 (
Pine
,
Gamma Emerald
,
Titus
, Alisae,
Elbirn
)
So my vote will stay here until all the bold look town or someone else scums up the thread.

Why not Alisae? I can see how you formatted as I'm posting.

FOS: ssbm

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1065 (isolation #64) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:05 pm

Having to change devices, my catch-up will likely be slower now as I can't use tabs.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1068 (isolation #65) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:09 pm

In post 429, Tywin Lannister wrote:Alisae, since you like meta, go check all my games. Every game I play in, I catch scum. My reads are almost always good. The scum I go after may not always get lynched right away, but when they do, I get proven right. So lynch me if you want idc tbh, but make sure to lynch/Vigi shoot Titus afterword. Trust me.

In post 428, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 426, Alisae wrote:
In post 423, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:The reason she gives for her intial SR on you, Titus, looks bad. She said you haven't been evaluating the game I think, but the shift to a TR looks like it could be defensive.
The reason here Titus is interacting with me. Titus is evaulating me as scum. Titus is scum hunting. Titus is doing town things. Thus she gets my read as town.
Titus is not town.

I am town.

Lunching me or Titus will prove it. If we have a vigilante, please shoot the other one. If I get lynched, make sure to shoot Titus. You'll thank me later.

This is terrible. Is there something in your role that makes you think Titus is scum?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1069 (isolation #66) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:10 pm

First quote shouldn't be there

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1071 (isolation #67) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:10 pm

Though it works out fine tbqh

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1080 (isolation #68) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:16 pm

In post 452, Cabd wrote:
In post 449, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Since it's come up again I'll actually quote the wiki and link the page if you guys want to verify
"Mechanical changes which must be announced beforehand include:
Mafia may have daytalk without an Encryptor as long as it is announced in the game's rules beforehand."
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

We don't know if Mafia have an encryptor or not so we don't know if there's daytalk because the mod did not announce it. The mod is obligated to announce if there will be daytalk
without
an encryptor in a Normal Game.
Oh this changed since last time I played normals.

FWIW Cephrir does come fro the school of mods who used to enjoy daytalk; not sure if it's still the case but I'd call it more likely than not.

I really don't know what daytalk does to affect balance. Can you teach me?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1085 (isolation #69) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:18 pm

In post 1075, Tywin Lannister wrote:@Gamma: why would I have a role that says 'this person is scum' on D1? What are you even asking? That's a really stupid question.

If you want to ask me something, ask why I think Titus is scum, then read my posts that have explained my SR. What is your intent with that question about my role?

You say your flip will incriminate Titus. Unless you have something in your role that does so, I don't believe you.
BTW your case on Titus is terrible.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1090 (isolation #70) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:19 pm

In post 455, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 448, Titus wrote:Rather, his vote is RVS and drama at best.
Hmm. This doesn't look like RVS to me. The reasoning is thin but not random.
In post 253, Nero Cain wrote:I think Lapsa is town unless he is getting bussed but there's no way I'd know that so he's prob town and there's likely scum voting him. Part of me thinks Cabd and Pine might actually be less likely to be scum so scum have a buffer before voting him.

vote:Gamma

In post 262, Nero Cain wrote:oh! The lapsa wagon was not Cabd, Pine, Gamma it was Pine, Gamma, Titus. Horay I get to lynch scum Titus again.

vote:Titus
Reading his posts together you can see he thinks scum has a buffer on the wagon and that's why he picks you because you're third. He was voting Gamma when he thought Gamma was the third on the wagon, as soon as he realized Cabd wasn't voting Lapsa he moved his vote to you. An obvious, but flimsy reason, unless he's keeping deeper reasons to himself.

Still a good vote though because there's at least 1 scum in those 5 players, maybe 2 if this is multiball

Why are you concerned about multiball?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1098 (isolation #71) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:24 pm

In post 493, CloudKicker wrote:oh lord i just fucking thought about a flip in another game, sorry that was non intended

What?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1101 (isolation #72) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:27 pm

In post 504, Titus wrote:
In post 496, mozamis wrote:Gamma could be scum. As of p5, seem to be a lot of info w/out analysis.
Could be town catching up. Can we slow down to accomodate?

YOU DIDNT EVEN KNOW THE HALF OF IT

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1102 (isolation #73) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:27 pm

Hold up plz

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1125 (isolation #74) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:49 pm

In post 1105, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Gamma is on like page 20, I feel bad now

why

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1138 (isolation #75) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:59 pm

In post 573, Elbirn wrote:You know what, quote tag? Suck my ass.

This made me LOL irl.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1139 (isolation #76) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:59 pm

In post 1136, Titus wrote:
In post 955, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well that's because I'M NOT CAUGHT UP, MEANING I CAN'T ANALYZE JACK SHIT!
Yeah, that's not true.

I can only analyze what I've read.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1143 (isolation #77) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:02 pm

In post 581, Transcend wrote:
In post 174, Aj The Epic wrote:Yeah Transcend nice try grudge matching.
There's also this gem

However, now that my only game with him is over, i did mislynch him in it. However he subbed into a bad slot. That or i ate Vifam's ass a bit too hard. Maybe a combo of both.

Regardless, this post is the worst of his entire "wtf" iso.

You ate Vifam's ass too hard, I was there. Vifam tricked me into voting with balance bullshit.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1147 (isolation #78) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:05 pm

In post 599, Cabd wrote:Apparently getting traction on Gamma isn't possible right now. He's got the flimsiest shit steps in and step outs in the game.

{Pine, Mozamis, Alisae} <--line of "not touching today without a damn good reason"
{Lapsa, SSBM}
{Elbirn, Tywin}
{Titus}
{everyone else} <--Line of Neutrality
{Uzi}
{AJ}
{Gamma} <--Line of "voting for without hesitation"

This is terribly written and makes no sense. Why are the lines so far apart, and why am I your ONLY major suspect?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1168 (isolation #79) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:22 pm

In post 751, Transcend wrote:Hi
There's 30 pages now wtf

I never addressed this before but I love this post.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1170 (isolation #80) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:24 pm

In post 756, Titus wrote:
In post 754, Gamma Emerald wrote:Can someone summarize the last ~25 pages plz?
Tywin, AJ, Laspa, Uzi scum.

Elbrin, Cabd, Transcend, Mozamis, Cloudkicker, That Interesting Tough Unicorn Smilemaker town.

Pine, ptob town.

These reads are OK. Don't fully agree with the SRs but the TRs are OK.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1177 (isolation #81) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:30 pm

In post 843, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 834, Nero Cain wrote:I am specifically talking about http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67071

I can't think of any games where town Titus ignores me and then tries to wave off my vote as vindictive or something.
I'm reading this Street Fighter mafia Titus + Nero combined ISO and I don't think this is the same situation. Looks like you had a real reason to push her in that game, where she was contradicting herself in a couple of places about a wagon on Beeboy and where she wasn't defending her TR or something like that. I don't usually look at past games as evidence but I decided to this time for reasons.

Alisae, Titus, Gamma: What are your reads on the other 2 players in this list?

VOTE: Alisae
This looks scum, the buddying is stinky and she continues to sit around asking others for their opinions on situations. I don't like the show of solidarity with the Aj wagon to so quickly jump off of it. Too much fence-sitting and sheeping from this slot, and is now not voting 34 pages in.

I can finally answer the question here: Alisae scum, Titus town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1179 (isolation #82) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:33 pm

In post 903, mozamis wrote:Ok just speed reading thru, so gonna give out "gut reads".
Tywin postin too much for scum? Sure I said that sarcastically, but he really is sticking his neck out. Tempering my scum read

SSbm town? His p #455 giving reads, trying tentatively to work out set up, which seems town.

Jeez Sonia punctuate if you want to be read. But town since she is stream of consciousness? p459

Cloud is town. He is saying things as he sees them.

Cabd looks really town. Unfortunately, he is a good player, so that means nothing. Null.

Lapsa lurkery scum?

ITS THE OLD PROBLEM, THE THREAD IS PROBABLY NINETY PER CENT TOWN. I'm ALWAYS UP FOR LYNCHING LURKERS, SINCE HIGH PROBABLITY OF SCUM. Worst case you get rid of useless town.

Certainly out of the "big guns", I'd be most willing to take a punt on itus, who I am sure is more "one- linery" than she was. Lots of activity, but where are the stribg reads?

More to come after tea! I know you can't wait for more Mozza

At this point I have reads on all players.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1181 (isolation #83) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:35 pm

In post 906, mozamis wrote:People who arent posting/lurkers
LIL, NERO, NERFS, TRANSCEND.

Bound to be at least one scum here.

Nerfs?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1183 (isolation #84) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:38 pm

In post 999, CloudKicker wrote:I prefer to have sex than watching anime since theyre mutually exclusive

BTW this is rood.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1186 (isolation #85) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:42 pm

In post 1088, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1085, Gamma Emerald wrote:BTW your case on Titus is terrible.
What about my case?

Don't really care

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1187 (isolation #86) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:43 pm

In post 1093, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1061, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 412, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:kk getting back to those Tywin and Alisae reads now that I'm sober.
Leaning Town on Alisae, not as sheepy as I thought, that was just the word I used last night to describe her very early play involving the introductions and all. I think the only sheepy vote she had was on Lapsa After she dropped the catposting things looked a lot better from her.
Tywin the play looks scummy so far, could wagon that if he keeps on the way he is and the right people are voting him, but not right now.

There are scum here in the bold:
In post 176, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.3Lapsa 5 (
Pine
,
Gamma Emerald
,
Titus
, Alisae,
Elbirn
)
So my vote will stay here until all the bold look town or someone else scums up the thread.
Why not Alisae? I can see how you formatted as I'm posting.

FOS: ssbm
At the time of this post I had reason to believe Alisae was town, so by PoE there's scum in the other 4. That format was intended to show both that the wagon was my initial pool and that Alisae was eliminated from that pool. I hadn't looked closely enough at her yet. Currently that pool is {Pine, Gamma, Alisae}.
In post 1063, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1053, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I think for her being your top SR you aren't paying enough attention to what Titus is posting
????

Titus gave out a series of town reads, sheeped onto a bunch of wagons. I called her scum. She ignored me. I called her out on ignoring me. She waved off my vote on her as being vindictive, She put a case on Tywin for "lying" and has promised a case on Lapsa. Is this an accurate potrayl of her actions this game? What have I ignored that should comment on?
Titus has given a reasonable amount of TRs imo. I don't think her votes have been sheep votes onto a bunch of wagons. I would ignore you as either alignment for the reasons you provided for SRing her. You pushed too hard on one of the 5 players on the Lapsa wagon too quickly. You seem to be ignoring Pine, Gamma, Alisae, and Elbirn at the time that you start asking players for their Titus reads, when they should all be in your scope still, assuming that you are voting Titus for the reason you gave at the time of the vote. Tywin did lie, but it was due to a misunderstanding. She hasn't been online since promising a case on Lapsa. I can't make you see it if you haven't noticed it already.

@Alisae - quit telling Tywin to use fewer words. Take the time to read what he's saying, it's not like it's difficult.
@Tywin - In 1056 you indicate that there's a possibility that instead of it being scum!Titus and scum!Alisae it could be town!Titus and scum!Alisae. You don't indicate you think it could be scum!Titus and town!Alisae though, so why not vote Alisae instead?

I still think it's odd you SR Pine since he was the first vote.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1188 (isolation #87) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:44 pm

In post 1099, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1090, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are you concerned about multiball?
I looked at archived Large Normals because I wanted to know how many mafia I should expect to see in this game. I've never played a game of this size before and didn't want to ask in the thread because that looks like a forced townslip. I noticed there were a lot of multiball games in the recent archive

OK.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1190 (isolation #88) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:46 pm

In post 1149, Tywin Lannister wrote:Gamma, you're scummy for ignoring Titus and focusing your entire attention on townies.

I'm not ignoring Titus. And which townies?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1191 (isolation #89) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:47 pm

In post 1189, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1186, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1088, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1085, Gamma Emerald wrote:BTW your case on Titus is terrible.
What about my case?
Don't really care
Gamma scum buddies with Titus, or Titus is town and Gamma trying to earn TCred from her? He hasn't looked at her at all. Not even one post, yet calls her town. His only town read. Odd.

Not my only townread. Look at my other posts.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1193 (isolation #90) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:49 pm

In post 1157, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1153, Titus wrote:
In post 1039, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 355, Titus wrote:I do have to admit, the gladiate, if real, neuters my vca too...
This is horrible. VCA still works with gladiation.
No. It really doesn't. I have been reading through here and every post here is theory and a good chunk is wrong. VCA centers on the choices made. Gladiation artificially removes choices from the game, limiting data points.

Since I am making a post educating you, here's what you need for a good VCA

1) Every vote count colored, without bias of town by play
2) A scum flip not caused by a guilty/gladiator
3) 3 days of data to work with
4) A good understanding of optimal town and scum play
5) The ability to filter a VI.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I will get back to reading. If I only see more bad theory spec that makes me rip my hair out, I will be annoyed.
Jesus Christ, pot meet kettle.

Titus is the player that called 4 players the scum team and conf biases everything over her bad theory in hopes of proving it right somehow. It's the definition of a bad theory, yet she has the nerve to call out Gamma? Wow. Misplaced fucking ego that is.

Why do you say this and think I'm scum?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1194 (isolation #91) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:51 pm

All caught up. Final assessment soon.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1211 (isolation #92) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:09 pm

You know what I'm doing with my reads?
Oppan Ranger Style!
{Lapsa, Elbirn, Titus, Cabd, CloudKicker}
{Aj, Transcend}
{Nosferatu, Pine}
{LUV, Nero, Mozamis}
{ssbm, Alisae}
{Tywin, Sonia}
Feel free to sheep me on my scumreads: I'm excellent at pegging scum.
PEdit: HOLY SHIT SO MANY POSTS

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1213 (isolation #93) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:10 pm

In post 1207, Tywin Lannister wrote:Does a Tywin lynch mean others will finally call Titus into question?

Everyone answer me. Stop defending her terrible play. Idc if you're friends. It's bad, and it's bad on purpose.

Titus is scum. I will vote myself off if it gets her investigated or lynched or something other than players like Gamma calling her town.

Players like me what?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1214 (isolation #94) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:11 pm

In post 1212, Titus wrote:
In post 1207, Tywin Lannister wrote:Does a Tywin lynch mean others will finally call Titus into question?

Everyone answer me. Stop defending her terrible play. Idc if you're friends. It's bad, and it's bad on purpose.

Titus is scum. I will vote myself off if it gets her investigated or lynched or something other than players like Gamma calling her town.
Like more than half the thread townreads me and they are not "players like Gamma". This is a subtle dig at anyone townreading me. It also suggests you know Gamma is town, while you have been painting him as scum.

Also, trying to force investigations is antitown as fuck.

@Gamma, vote Tywin with me.

QFT
I'd be okay voting Tywin.
VOTE: Tywin Lannister

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1222 (isolation #95) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:15 pm

Really CK? T v T?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1289 (isolation #96) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:51 am

In post 1284, Cabd wrote:FWIW I'm not voting for Tywin today. He's very obviously frustrated railroaded town.

Shame on those of you that are taking him as scum. He can be town who found scum-titus or town that mistook town-titus for scum titus but the frustration and emotion is genuine town with a capital T.

Tywin, let's chat real quick. A large part of your Titus case is that the logic Titus is using is so ~wrong~ it has to come from scum, right?

Look at how he talks about a scumread like they are town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1294 (isolation #97) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:06 am

In post 1149, Tywin Lannister wrote:
Gamma, you're scummy
for ignoring Titus and focusing your entire attention on townies.

In post 1157, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1153, Titus wrote:
In post 1039, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 355, Titus wrote:I do have to admit, the gladiate, if real, neuters my vca too...
This is horrible. VCA still works with gladiation.
No. It really doesn't. I have been reading through here and every post here is theory and a good chunk is wrong. VCA centers on the choices made. Gladiation artificially removes choices from the game, limiting data points.

Since I am making a post educating you, here's what you need for a good VCA

1) Every vote count colored, without bias of town by play
2) A scum flip not caused by a guilty/gladiator
3) 3 days of data to work with
4) A good understanding of optimal town and scum play
5) The ability to filter a VI.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I will get back to reading. If I only see more bad theory spec that makes me rip my hair out, I will be annoyed.
Jesus Christ, pot meet kettle.

Titus is the player that called 4 players the scum team and conf biases everything over her bad theory in hopes of proving it right somehow. It's the definition of a bad theory,
yet she has the nerve to call out Gamma
? Wow. Misplaced fucking ego that is.

Does this look logical to anyone? It looks fake as shit to me. It feels like he knows I'm town in the second post.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1300 (isolation #98) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:17 am

Cabs acknowledge my point.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1303 (isolation #99) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:22 am

My goal for catch-up reads is to sort EVERYONE. Nulls are for wimps.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:23 am

In post 1304, Cabd wrote:
In post 1300, Gamma Emerald wrote:Cabs acknowledge my point.
Your reading of context doesn't seem like the only interpretation, I didn't get what you got out of those two quotes.

He says I'm scum but chastises his other scum read for attacking me hypocritically, which only really makes sense if he thinks I'm town

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:28 am

There's also his blatantly false accusation of Titus not asking him questions.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:46 am

@Elbirn: it was @both.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:48 am

Im not moon logic per se, just strangely dead accurate with scumreads sometimes.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:00 am

Yo
I came to 30 pages and I tryharded my way through
You can do the same.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:16 am

She's not admiting to playing against wincon. I can see that.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:17 am

In post 1354, Cabd wrote:
In post 1353, Titus wrote:
In post 1350, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Idk if you answered this Titus but I'll ask again

Why does it have to just not be a misunderstanding over lies.
People who have a misunderstanding read where they are proven wrong and change or go to the moon.
One might even say they become.. a moon walker?

I don'tlike this post

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:07 am

In post 1370, Cabd wrote:Bad titus. No kibbles. Step back and see the forest for the trees. Right now if you two gladiated I'd be lynching you, not him. He's likely going to be vigged or lynched down the line; we both know he won't be anywhere near lylo because if he's scum he'll be dead and if he's town he'll be NK'd or mislynched well before that.

I'd focus right now on people who are using this fued between you two to slip into the shadows...

Who is among those people?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:09 am

In post 1376, Titus wrote:
In post 1372, Cabd wrote:
In post 1371, Titus wrote:Those people slipping into the shadows, they are my other reads as partners with Tywin.
Then name and shame.

P.S..: I'm about 70% on him; but that's STRONG for a day one read.
Lapsa for starters, Uzi for another (but I waffle here)

Alisae is also scummy, but not likely aligned with Tywin, she seeks his approval too much.

I can see Uzi.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:19 am

Bwuh?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:19 am

Aj just drop it as you are making no sense.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:26 pm

In post 1383, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1382, Titus wrote:He's clear to me.

Basically, he's saying if Tywin's a town idiot we can carry him and put him on ignore and hopefully not reach the point of policy lynching him.
No, egotistical moron, he said you're the town idiot who has a meta of being a town idiot in all your games, and it's so bad that mod's have officially named you as such. You're so blind that you think it's cool. You're pissed off that someone DARED call out your flawless logic and completely rational emotional appeals, so clearly that person must not just be scum, but worthless, and idiot, what else can you slander me with? You're a bad player and it's obvious. You basically think it's okay to win by frustrating others so much with your complete lack of adaptability, stubborn/ignorant reads, and slanderous false accusations that they want to quit or give up. You've now even fucking insulted me personally twice outside of the game. If you are scum, nobody will ever respect you for this kind of play, and if you're town, you're extremely bad at it. I can't stand egotistical morons. You don't have a right to treat others as if you are better than them in any way, because you're so blind that you think you've been playing well. You insulting me on top of all of this is the most classless thing possible. You're trashy as fuck.

You insult her and say she's terrible for insulting you. Priceless.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:31 pm

Lapsa that's terrible.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:46 pm

@Tywin you're the one bullying and flaming, don't even try to dodge it.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:46 pm

I'm done with this shit.

Dayvig: Tywin Lannister

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:53 pm

I'm cheering because you're a hypocrite. And I have a TR on both Titus and AJ fyi
I do love all these idiots shouting "town v town!" though.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:59 pm

In post 1414, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1411, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm cheering because you're a hypocrite. And I have a TR on both Titus and AJ fyi
I do love all these idiots shouting "town v town!" though.
We all know how good you are with killing townies Gamma.

Pardon? Care to run that by me again?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:10 pm

In post 1383, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1382, Titus wrote:He's clear to me.

Basically, he's saying if Tywin's a town idiot we can carry him and put him on ignore and hopefully not reach the point of policy lynching him.
No,
egotistical moron
, he said you're the town idiot who has a meta of being a town idiot in all your games, and it's so bad that mod's have officially named you as such.
You're so blind that you think it's cool.
You're pissed off that someone DARED call out your flawless logic and completely rational emotional appeals, so clearly that person must not just be scum, but worthless, and idiot, what else can you slander me with? You're a bad player and it's obvious. You basically think it's okay to win by frustrating others so much with your complete lack of adaptability, stubborn/ignorant reads, and slanderous false accusations that they want to quit or give up. You've now even fucking insulted me personally twice outside of the game. If you are scum, nobody will ever respect you for this kind of play, and if you're town, you're extremely bad at it. I can't stand egotistical morons. You don't have a right to treat others as if you are better than them in any way, because you're so blind that you think you've been playing well. You insulting me on top of all of this is the most classless thing possible.
You're trashy as fuck
.

Hey. Does the bold not look like flaming?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:24 pm

In post 1425, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Titus
There's being stubborn and then there's being unreasonable
this is the ladder

I'm still willing to lynch this fyi

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:28 pm

In post 1432, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1429, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1425, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Titus
There's being stubborn and then there's being unreasonable
this is the ladder
I'm still willing to lynch this fyi
Are you still bitter that my meta on you always works that you want to lynch me in any game?
My day start that you called a scum slip was banter between me and cloud because we know each other

That's not banter when you say your scumread can't read you.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:06 pm

In post 1443, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Gamma annoys me and I want to bias lynch him. Can get behind that wagon
I don't see it as omgus more just as dislike that he thinks I'd slip as scum and he hasn't done anything.

How have I "not done anything"?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:16 pm

AHAHA YOU'RE SCUM.
Read my catchup.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:21 pm

In post 955, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well that's because I'M NOT CAUGHT UP, MEANING I CAN'T ANALYZE JACK SHIT!

My catchup starts after this post and goes on until my bracketed reads

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:36 pm

In post 1452, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1422, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1383, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1382, Titus wrote:He's clear to me.

Basically, he's saying if Tywin's a town idiot we can carry him and put him on ignore and hopefully not reach the point of policy lynching him.
No,
egotistical moron
, he said you're the town idiot who has a meta of being a town idiot in all your games, and it's so bad that mod's have officially named you as such.
You're so blind that you think it's cool.
You're pissed off that someone DARED call out your flawless logic and completely rational emotional appeals, so clearly that person must not just be scum, but worthless, and idiot, what else can you slander me with? You're a bad player and it's obvious. You basically think it's okay to win by frustrating others so much with your complete lack of adaptability, stubborn/ignorant reads, and slanderous false accusations that they want to quit or give up. You've now even fucking insulted me personally twice outside of the game. If you are scum, nobody will ever respect you for this kind of play, and if you're town, you're extremely bad at it. I can't stand egotistical morons. You don't have a right to treat others as if you are better than them in any way, because you're so blind that you think you've been playing well. You insulting me on top of all of this is the most classless thing possible.
You're trashy as fuck
.
Hey. Does the bold not look like flaming?
Takes two to tango, except one person got defended, while another got attacked. One person did it all game and continually did it even after it was attempted to stop. I may be a hypocrite for partaking, but I didn't start this nor will I continue to take it passively. Defend her all you like, but it takes two, and you're a hypocrite for failing to acknowledge that.

I'm not a hypocrite as I am not partaking.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:50 pm

Can we lynch obvscum Sonia?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:03 pm

In post 1461, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Why don't instead of asking you grow a pair of balls and try and wagon me yourself gamma
see how far it goes.

k sure
VOTE: Sonia

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:07 pm

In post 1467, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Gamma

1v1

Good enough for me. I'm amazing at finding scum d1, remember how I caught on to ira in Mini 1832? Nero in Death Note?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:11 pm

In post 1471, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1469, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1467, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Gamma

1v1
Good enough for me. I'm amazing at finding scum d1, remember how I caught on to ira in Mini 1832? Nero in Death Note?
Lmfao you "found" ira and never pushed it. Everyone found Nero in deathnote wasn't hard
Please stop acting like you're good Gamma it doesn't work with you

I pushed ira until meta suggested otherwise.
I have other amazing reads but I decided to just list a couple you knew.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:28 pm

In post 1479, Tywin Lannister wrote:Regarding Gamma, from what I've seen from his past meta, he usually doesn't lurk this hard

I never lurked, point out the timeframe and I'll disprove you.

, and he seems more unbiased when town. As it stands, he fed into things by quoting my retaliation posts and calling me the culprit while defending Titus hard.

ok

He says we are both TRs, but he wants me gone badly.

That's a lie I NEVER TRed you.

Unless he is close friends with Titus, he may be scum hoping for more discord. Townie Gamma wouldn't want to feed into it, but his posts in the past few pages clearly had that intent. When confronted by that fact, he claims he's not partaking.

I see what you are saying here. You think that I'm egging the situation on.

I think that's obviously not true, so I more question the motivations for it. Why is he wanting to feed the fire?

Taking into account his extreme lurking and a pretty big shift from what i know of his townie meta, I think he may be a scum slot.

I'm not lurking, and I can change my play pretty wildly from time to time. I used to detest bussing as scum, now I feel it's rather fun.

Sonia is clearly town, but when she called Gamma out for his play, hesays 'caught scum.'

Because she is discrediting me instead of actually saying why I'm wrong.

He's repeatedly been dropping his willingness to lynch her, and it's just out of place and not in-line with real townie thought.

WELL IF SOMEONE ELSE WOULD JUMP ON BOARD I WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH!

Let's see.
He randomly accuses me of TRing both him and Titus. This seems to be a narrative shift to paint my attempts to draw people onto him as scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:29 pm

In post 1482, Tywin Lannister wrote:Serious question to everyone: if I get lynched and flip town, will that possibly make you reevaluate any TR you have on Titus? Pushing hard for my lynch seems to be her entire D1 MO, so if it succeeds and I flip, will reads change based on that? Will any info be gained? I assume my current status is a town distraction, so I'm wondering if my lynch will help town in some way for the future? I've already claimed, so not being a PR generally means it won't hurt town too badly to mislynch me of all the slots. They happen all the time on D1, so losing a VT shouldn't hurt too much.

Not really. Her push on you is solid from what I've seen. She's not grasping for anything.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:35 pm

In post 1489, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1411, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm cheering because you're a hypocrite. And I have a TR on both Titus and AJ fyi
I do love all these idiots shouting "town v town!" though.
Nvm, maybe you didn't TR me. I saw this originally and didn't see the AJ part. I thought you said 'I have a town read on both of you.' Guess you caught me in another lie /s

You TR Titus and AJ I guess. Looks odd to me. I SR them both. You included. Funny. Who are the idiots you mentioned claiming TvT?

Elbirn, Cabd. I read them as town though so I'm just super pissed my townreads are calling this T v T.

And I'll repeat my question: if I get lynched and flip town, will your reads change?

1487

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:37 pm

You have lied about her not asking you questions. That's the main one I remember seeing that she pointed out too.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:41 pm

In post 1493, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1492, Gamma Emerald wrote:You have lied about her not asking you questions. That's the main one I remember seeing that she pointed out too.
Do you know what the lies were about? Do you know the context of it? Did you not see my explaination, or even did you see her post 'I don't need to ask you questions to read you' when I asked her to repeat them? Did you see her post about 10 pages after that in which she does apparently post her questions, yet the links don't work? Have you paid any attention to that, or are you sheeping reasons you don't really remember? How is that sorting? Do you expect everyone to know every question posed to them in a 60+ page D1 thread?

It wasn't 60 pages back then.
I'll look back over, but this is more for your alignment than hers.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:42 pm

But not rn because I'm going out soon, fyi

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:44 pm

In post 1496, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1494, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1493, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1492, Gamma Emerald wrote:You have lied about her not asking you questions. That's the main one I remember seeing that she pointed out too.
Do you know what the lies were about? Do you know the context of it? Did you not see my explaination, or even did you see her post 'I don't need to ask you questions to read you' when I asked her to repeat them? Did you see her post about 10 pages after that in which she does apparently post her questions, yet the links don't work? Have you paid any attention to that, or are you sheeping reasons you don't really remember? How is that sorting? Do you expect everyone to know every question posed to them in a 60+ page D1 thread?
It wasn't 60 pages back then.
I'll look back over, but this is more for your alignment than hers.
So you're saying you were caught up back then, yes? How would you know how many pages it was when you haven't caught up until a few pages ago?

I know the question I saw was asked much earlier than page 60.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:13 am

In post 1498, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1497, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1496, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1494, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1493, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1492, Gamma Emerald wrote:You have lied about her not asking you questions. That's the main one I remember seeing that she pointed out too.
Do you know what the lies were about? Do you know the context of it? Did you not see my explaination, or even did you see her post 'I don't need to ask you questions to read you' when I asked her to repeat them? Did you see her post about 10 pages after that in which she does apparently post her questions, yet the links don't work? Have you paid any attention to that, or are you sheeping reasons you don't really remember? How is that sorting? Do you expect everyone to know every question posed to them in a 60+ page D1 thread?
It wasn't 60 pages back then.
I'll look back over, but this is more for your alignment than hers.
So you're saying you were caught up back then, yes? How would you know how many pages it was when you haven't caught up until a few pages ago?
I know the question I saw was asked much earlier than page 60.
So you should've been caught up, right? If it's only 30 pages, that's not much is it? It's not 60, so that means her point was right and there's no way I could've missed her questions? You were caught up at the time? I mean, how would you have seen it and SR me ever since then if you weren't even caught up to those posts? You technically shouldn't have SR'd me at all until like a page ago based on your excuses of not being caught up the entire game. What gives?

I caught up once I gave my bracketed reads.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:27 am

In post 1613, Syryana wrote:A welcoming response?

SCUM SPOTTED

VOTE: Lil Uzi

This is a tell I've thought about.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:38 am

In post 1614, Syryana wrote:Actually no,

VOTE: Titus

Any day I can wagon Titus is a good day.

Bad idea.
Also your avatar is kickass.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:02 am

I'm going to attempt to VCA soon

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:11 am

Mainly I'm doing it because of ideas of wagon composition possibly not fitting my proposed scumteam.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:18 am

I'm not trying to find a perfect team, I'm wanting to see if my proposed team makes sense.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:23 am

I'm using my town presumptions based on wagons to see if the scum is falling where I'd expect.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:29 am

Nah PM is still active

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:37 am

In post 176, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.3
Elbirn
6
(Lil Uzi Vert
,
xSoniaNevermindx
,
Aj The Epic
,
ssbm_Kyouko
, Transcend,
CloudKicker
)

Lapsa
5 (
Pine
,
Gamma Emerald, Titus
,
Alisae
,
Elbirn
)

Alisae
3 (
Nosferatu
,
Lapsa
,
Tywin Lannister
)

Gamma Emerald
1 (
Cabd
)

Not Voting 2
(Nero Cain, mozamis)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Blue = town

red = scum

Based on current reads.
I may be wrong about Lapsa being town.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:45 am

Not really RVS though. BTW can someone tell me who was on the Aj wagon at it's peak?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:59 am

In post 1634, Alisae wrote:Gamma that's a lot of scum on your list. Who are the most scummy to you?

Sonia, Tywin (pending reread), you, ssbm.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:37 am

In post 1637, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Gamma's just mad I can always tell when he's scum.

You don't have that honor. I'm also not telling who does.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:48 am

Okay miss "I'm going to hammer my townread because my BFF is frothing at the mouth so hard I think they have a guilty on that person".

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:55 am

Then you should have made Gerry explain instead of lolhammering.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:00 am

Where's the playing to wincon in lolhammering like that

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:08 am

In post 1648, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1645, Gamma Emerald wrote:Where's the playing to wincon in lolhammering like that
It wasn't an lol hammer!
Our pr was screaming LYNCH LYNCH
how am I suppose to say no

Ok maybe that wasn't
But day 5, the egg was on your face

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:19 am

In post 470, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.5Elbirn 4 (Lil Uzi Vert, Aj The Epic, ssbm_Kyouko, Transcend)
CloudKicker 2 (xSoniaNevermindx, Gamma Emerald)
Gamma Emerald 2 (Cabd, CloudKicker)
Alisae 2 (Nosferatu, mozamis)
Lil Uzi Vert 2 (Elbirn, Lapsa)
Titus 2 (Nero Cain, Tywin Lannister)
Tywin Lannister 2 (Alisae, Titus)
Lapsa 1 (Pine)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

The mafia in this game do have daytalk without an encryptor. I will add this to the rules; apologies.

You seriously missed this Tywin?
This is why you don't skim, folks.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:06 am

In post 1665, CloudKicker wrote:@titus overall she has been pushing theory about traitor and 2 scumteams, trying to push a world where she can read alisea as if she was trator or something while its completly irrelevant to use that d1. The talk in itself is nai, thing is she was inconsistent when she pushed lapsa about it but didnt vote them, she went back to tywin (town). Even you titus whos pretty sure tywin is scum, and from your pov you might have a better view than i do, you still are reasonable enough to get off his back

Who is the "she" here?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:38 am

In post 1669, mozamis wrote:
In post 1156, Titus wrote:I am vocal as fuck town
Yes you are. And you are not this game. Hence, scum.

She has been very vocal.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:35 pm

My townread on Lapsa was purely based on wagon comp spec and the actual evaluation proved it was wrong. I am willing.
VOTE: Lapsa

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:10 pm

whats up

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:55 pm

In post 1712, mozamis wrote:
In post 1237, Alisae wrote:I'll fucking confirm this. I am flip floping at the moment. I don't know what the fuck to do. I don't know who the fuck is what.
This seems pretty over the top and fake confusion.
Happy to vote her if we can't get rid of Titus.

I love this phrasing.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:28 pm

In post 1718, mozamis wrote:
In post 1279, Tywin Lannister wrote:It's really bad and completely demoralizing. I had almost all weekend off, and I can't keep up with this thread. Do none of you have responsibilities or jobs?
I mean, if you are scum and can fabricate this kind of sadness and frustration, then you deserve a scummy...
Town.

You are a weak player if you feel fake emotion is so deserving of a Scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:05 pm

Syr is town, that read on Titus isn't right but it makes sense.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:14 pm

In post 1095, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1080, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 452, Cabd wrote:
In post 449, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Since it's come up again I'll actually quote the wiki and link the page if you guys want to verify
"Mechanical changes which must be announced beforehand include:
Mafia may have daytalk without an Encryptor as long as it is announced in the game's rules beforehand."
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

We don't know if Mafia have an encryptor or not so we don't know if there's daytalk because the mod did not announce it. The mod is obligated to announce if there will be daytalk
without
an encryptor in a Normal Game.
Oh this changed since last time I played normals.

FWIW Cephrir does come fro the school of mods who used to enjoy daytalk; not sure if it's still the case but I'd call it more likely than not.
I really don't know what daytalk does to affect balance. Can you teach me?
Really? Why are you constantly asking asinine questions?

Okay, here's an example for you:

Titus is scum buddies with Alisae. Without day talk, Alisae is extreme newbscum and doesn't know to not buddy her scum team in-thread. She thinks that's how to play, but obviously Titus can't go and say 'hey Alisae, calm down there buddy, you'll get us both caught!' Without day talk, newbscum Alisae does what she does.

With day talk, the experienced scum would calm her the fuck down and try to minimize her mistakes.

Anyone calling this a townslip from now on gets the motherfucking murdercock. I know what he was saying.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:16 pm

In post 1746, Alisae wrote:
In post 1745, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyone calling this a townslip from now on gets the motherfucking murdercock. I know what he was saying.
Then what was he saying?

He was talking theory. Whether we have daytalk now doesn't affect what the post means.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:20 pm

tbh I think Tywin!town isn't such a wild thought. He managed to level his thoughts and become rational.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:20 pm

lol masonry

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:25 pm

In post 1759, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:His username sounds like a name of an actor to be honest.

It's the name of a character.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:32 pm

In post 1762, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1760, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1759, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:His username sounds like a name of an actor to be honest.
It's the name of a character.
From?

You are culturally blind: Game of Thrones.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:34 pm

AM I REALLY ALONE IN KNOWING GOT?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:37 pm

In post 1768, Titus wrote:Ok, this is one of
those
games, where I have to wait on town to realize the obvious. I will keep my vote useful, but make a general proclaimation that I will
always
be down for a Tywin wagon.

Anyone townreading the second "daytalk" comment has zero idea about the point of daychat and how townslips are faked.

I don't get why we are talking about masons from nowhere.

Pedit: Yeah, Gamma. I actually have played several games about GoT. Never watched an episode.

I was being jokey because the word "masonry" was in the video.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:41 pm

tbh Moz is slipping into my townreads

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:47 pm

I knew it wasn't a crumb that's why I pointed it out.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:06 pm

Blue is decent townreads
Red is decent scumreads
Colors progress accordingly

Lil Uzi Vert

Lapsa

Pine

Nero Cain

Syryana

Nosferatu

Aj The Epic

mozamis

xSoniaNevermindx

ssbm_Kyouko

Alisae

CloudKicker

Tywin Lannister

Elbirn

Cabd

Titus

These are my berry-color reads.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:20 pm

In post 1797, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Stop giving out reads list and helping scum.

Nah, it helps us townbloc.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:27 pm

I believe Titus is a player who would allude to what she is doing at a certain moment.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:33 pm

In post 1816, Cabd wrote:
In post 1813, Alisae wrote:BTW Syryana, who is in your avatar?
It's the second best Command Officer of Advance Wars, but with a bitchin getup.

who's da best tho

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:37 pm

In post 1821, Alisae wrote:
In post 1817, Cabd wrote:
In post 1813, Alisae wrote:{Titus, Lapsa, Mos, Pine, Tywin, Kyouko} <--- Things I'm okay with lynching
LMAO please explain how you have Titus and Tywin in the same scumtier?!?

Unless you're trying to say they're pulling the scum theater of the century?
To be honest, I think they could have easily pulled off the scum theater of the century. Knowing Tywin, it would be very easy.

Nah Tywin is town. Took me a while to reach that conclusion but I got there.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:38 pm

In post 1822, Alisae wrote:
In post 1820, Titus wrote:
In post 1814, Alisae wrote:Titus in the event you missed this.
In post 1799, Alisae wrote:
In post 1794, Titus wrote:Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her
Why would an SK admit to trying to please everyone including scum? That just seems idiotic to me.
Because it's blatantly true. An SK denying that is autolynch.

I am not too inclined to lynch you today, as scum can handle you if I am correct barring a really unbalanced fucked over game.
So you're implying that if I am SK, that I am dieing tonight. Nice!

I sense something in your tone. Explain it.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:42 pm

fffffffff
either that's masterful posturing or you're kinda an idiot

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:45 pm

WIFOM. Fabulous!

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:54 pm

Attempt 2

In post 176, Cephrir wrote:
Votecount 1.3
Elbirn
6 (
Lil Uzi Vert
,
xSoniaNevermindx,
Aj The Epic
, ssbm_Kyouko
,
Transcend
,
CloudKicker
)

Lapsa
5 (
Pine
,
Gamma Emerald
,
Titus
,
Alisae
,
Elbirn
)

Alisae
3 (Nosferatu,
Lapsa
,
Tywin Lannister
)

Gamma Emerald
1 (
Cabd
)

Not Voting 2 (
Nero Cain
, mozamis
)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

This makes more sense than before.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:56 pm

I'll state if Titus somehow flips scum Alisae has a high chance of flipping scum too.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:59 pm

BTW I know Trust Fund is a Tag Power but what about Rift Adrift and Oil Tycoons?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:03 pm

In post 1861, Syryana wrote:
In post 1858, Gamma Emerald wrote:BTW I know Trust Fund is a Tag Power but what about Rift Adrift and Oil Tycoons?
Trust Fund is one of my hydrae. WIth Cabd actually.

kewl. Will you be around for a while, because I'd love to make a hydra with you that has a Advance Wars based name.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:06 pm

LOL Earth and Sky most broken thing ever #getrektskrubz

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:31 pm

Ok wow those links ARE broken. Tywin made something out of nothing by calling that scummy tho: BBCode formating is NAI.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:33 pm

Titus, look at how he cooled down with me. That gear shift tells me he was making an honest try at being better.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:13 pm

@ssbm: why do you townread Nero?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:15 pm

In post 1920, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1917, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Just gonna save the Alisae stuff for later (in a draft) I'm getting heated over this SK discussion and that's not very good for my health atm.

Town - Titus, Elbirn
Townlean - Cloud, Syryana, Cabd, Nero Cain

----D1 Lynch Line----

Nulltown -Gamma, Pine, Nosferatus, mozamis, Tywin
Nullscum - Sonia, Aj
Scumlean - LUV
Scum - Alisae, Lapsa

Tywin could drop again real quick depending on how he continues. Aj could rise pretty quick depending on if/how he ever comments on my comments on his case on me. Sonia is admittedly lowered by preflip associations. Gamma keeps coloring me red in his VCAs but I think his heart is in the right place. LUV has not responded adequately to direct questioning so he's still down there, and
his vote is positioned well on the Lapsa wagon to be a bus
.
How is Nos null-town?

What is your read on him?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:42 pm

@ssbm: Nero's statement is actually why I initially townread Lapsa.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:46 pm

In post 1932, Alisae wrote:
In post 1927, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1898, Alisae wrote:Now town along with Titus.
And what do you think of me now? Still scummy?
Yes, you're scummy. You're guilty as hell

Are you a Daycop?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:02 pm

You used the word guilty so I was joking around because that's how cop results on mafia are claimed sometimes.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:56 pm

I'm thinking Ali is a possible ssbm buddy as well because ssbm is going full tilt with the SK hunting BS. 3p spec is an EXCELLENT way to avoid sorting a scum buddy.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:08 pm

In post 1945, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1943, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm thinking Ali is a possible ssbm buddy as well because ssbm is going full tilt with the SK hunting BS. 3p spec is an EXCELLENT way to avoid sorting a scum buddy.
I'm not avoiding sorting her she's clearly a consistent scumread of mine. Again, I'm not the one who suggested she was a SK in the first place, it was Titus that did that. Are you even reading this thread or just confirmation biasing your SR on me?

She said it first but you said it most.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:58 pm

Summary: town finally got its fucking act together.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:20 pm

COO COO CA CHOO

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:29 pm

In post 1958, Nero Cain wrote:hey Gamma, is this scum read on me based on anything other than you not liking my Titus read?

Remember how you voted me, then Titus, based solely on wagon placement? That's what I found scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:35 pm

In post 1961, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1928, Gamma Emerald wrote:@ssbm: Nero's statement is actually why I initially townread Lapsa.
Why would you say this then if you thought I was scummy for voting based on "wagon placement"?

Because I thought you had a point still, even if the way you handled it was scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:40 pm

In post 1963, Nero Cain wrote:"You have a point, but the way you handled it is scummy."

thats not talking out of both sides of your mouth at all.

Can you explain how it would have been handled not scummy with the same belief that scum was sheeping the Lapsa wagon?

Not being a robot about it and trying to evaluate each vote.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:00 pm

In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?

I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:06 pm

In post 1967, Alisae wrote:
In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?

Yeah, the SK talk feels like read dodging from ssbm.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:20 pm

In post 1972, Alisae wrote:
In post 1970, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1967, Alisae wrote:
In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?
Yeah, the SK talk feels like read dodging from ssbm.
Do you think it's read dodging coming from Titus?

She's not the one mentioning it over and over, so no.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:22 pm

Although stepping out of The Zone for a second she is pretty adamant about that read. It's not scummy though, it just feels like confusion based on associations.