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Hi, pretend I know nothing.
Who should I vote for?-
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What is she at?
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I skimmed the first 5 pages.
ETL looks pretty townie? High post count and is ACTUALLY excited. But now they are serious.
Okay, that is my first read. GLHF.-
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Are we still in RVS? Or is this No lynch person a construct of some sort?-
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Elements has blatantly lied to me twice since I have been here.In post 549, Aristophanes wrote:This should be...interesting!
IRL I'm working not quarantining, fyi, so if my activity seems low that's a heads upa s to why
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I just found out by the VC that they lied to me 3 times, not 2!In post 554, Aristophanes wrote:In post 551, Quick wrote:
Elements has blatantly lied to me twice since I have been here.In post 549, Aristophanes wrote:This should be...interesting!
IRL I'm working not quarantining, fyi, so if my activity seems low that's a heads upa s to why
Have I missed anything good?
In less than a page???
That was Quick!
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I am fine with sheeping ESL and Nero until I know more. Let's let them build wagons friends.
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In post 536, Elements wrote:no lynchIn post 539, Elements wrote:5/11In post 541, Elements wrote:6/11
Pretty sure these are all blatant lies. I could be wrong...In post 546, Elements wrote:the latter-
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but it is still RVS so it doesn't really matter I guess.
So I will not be catching up.-
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That's not a scumslip...In post 562, Saudade wrote:anyways mastina scum slipped when she asked whether this game is a joke/serious to mask her indecisiveness to post in this game only to then serious post for the next page-
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Let's have us a real talk about this...In post 563, Saudade wrote:It's a psychological slip and nothing will make me unvote this slot I think
People are generally more inconsistent then they are consisted. This is no different in Mafia. So you are operating under false presuppositions.-
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Or they mistook the game for something else like I did when I asked if No lynch was a construct.In post 568, Saudade wrote:she was trying to fake a mindset, only to change her mind and fail right after lol-
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ETL has already said they had to PM the mod about something. mastina could very well have done the same things.
Just saying you don't have an open a shut case. That's all. Just saying it's not a scum slip because very VERY few things are actually scum slips.-
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Okay, thanks.In post 572, Aristophanes wrote:
No lynch is a player, the VC at the top of the page confirms their math before and after their vote, and...wait that's it.In post 559, Quick wrote:In post 536, Elements wrote:no lynchIn post 539, Elements wrote:5/11In post 541, Elements wrote:6/11
Pretty sure these are all blatant lies. I could be wrong...In post 546, Elements wrote:the latter
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I am not going to sheep FL.
I will sheep ETL and Nero, but not FL.
Farside22 has been a big fat zero so...
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Yeah. IDK why I am back. No reason really. Just missed playing.In post 586, Nero Cain wrote:
Didn't u "retire"?In post 584, Quick wrote:I am not going to sheep FL.
I will sheep ETL and Nero, but not FL.
Farside22 has been a big fat zero so...
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Why would you say this?In post 251, Elements wrote:
Everyone ends up wanting to vote me day one, there will be a wagon at some point.In post 245, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:This is a cop-out.
I wanna vote this. But.. wagons are tasty and produce delicious fruit.-
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Yeah, Infected by hammer or something like that.In post 264, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
dude what..In post 258, Vecna wrote:1 of the three scum
Nero. Seriously. I'm starting to wonder if he's legit trying to make itlooklike a scum slip or if it's actually a scumslip.-
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Okay, not much itt except a bunch of WIFOM.
I said I wasn't going to catch up but the thread died so I did.
I am kinda feeling like we need to push these weird roles more but don't know for sure.
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Hoctac and 5G Tower. But I could be wrong.In post 595, Nero Cain wrote:What weird roles?-
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@mastina, flesh out your FL read because that cannot be read at this point IMO.-
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I might do more work later, but right now I am about as caught up as I want to be.
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I think it was 5G that voted like 6 times in one post. They both operate similarly and both have similar avatars and both accounts created in mid-late April.In post 602, farside22 wrote:
Why do you thin they have weird roles? All i see is weird personalities.In post 596, Quick wrote:
Hoctac and 5G Tower. But I could be wrong.In post 595, Nero Cain wrote:What weird roles?
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What makes you think I was talking about effort?In post 605, mastina wrote:
I'd say "effort != alignment", but that'd be a bit disingenuous of me considering that in this case I happen to think that the effort does have an impact on alignment--aIn post 542, Quick wrote:ETL looks pretty townie? High post count and is ACTUALLY excited. But now they are serious.negativeone, so I should instead say:
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Okay.In post 609, mastina wrote:
For the record, I do think that this Quick isIn post 566, Quick wrote:People are generally more inconsistent then they are consisted. This is no different in Mafia. So you are operating under false presuppositions.probablymore likely to be town than scum at this point, but I'm not really sure because it's mostly based off of a pretty stupid reason of, "I don't think Quick gets into an argument of what amounts to semantics* like this if scum".
*Not the best choice of words, but conveys the thought I am more or less thinking of, that Quick engaging in a trivial thing like that which isn't really important, made me think Quick's more likely to be town than not. Which, again, is a pretty stupid reason but hey, I'm fine with it.
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Do you have any reads?In post 613, 5G Tower wrote:
Oh how I love my fans!In post 552, Aristophanes wrote:No Lynch and Miss Lynch are players!?!? Lmfao
Also kudos to 5g towers! That shit's funny-
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Put a percentage on FL being Town for me.In post 615, mastina wrote:
I'm honestly not sure how to. It's basically just, what I think based off of FL being FL. He's not being hyper-invested in this game, not being hyper-active, not being hyper-strong, whatever you'd like to say.In post 598, Quick wrote:@mastina, flesh out your FL read because that cannot be read at this point IMO.
So given that, there's two possible worlds:
FL is not invested as town,
Or FL is not invested as scum.
Those two are the only two scenarios possible here, because FL is self-evidently not strongly invested (at least not yet).
FL has gotten sick of drawing scum, so there's a precedent for him possibly not being invested as scum--however, even when FL is sick of drawing scum, my memory is that he's usually still more active than he is in this game even with him having drawn an alignment he's tired of playing. More than that, I'm not even sure he's tired of drawing scum anymore, because it's been a while since he constantly rolled scum, and that break might've been enough to reset the metric and make him no longer sick of it.
Between those things, I more or less think it far more likely that FL is just not invested as town, because FL as towncanhave games where he's not very invested. It's not an absolute though because I obviously could be mistaken about things regarding FL. Life circumstances, his mindset, his attitude, the exact specifics of his meta, etc. There's lots of things which make the theory not absolute, thus, not a stronger townread but enough of a townread where I don't think he needs focus any time soon.-
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You talked about one person in this post and you didn't even vote for them.In post 617, 5G Tower wrote:
I can politely point you to my big ass post that came right before you got in:In post 614, Quick wrote:
Do you have any reads?In post 613, 5G Tower wrote:
Oh how I love my fans!In post 552, Aristophanes wrote:No Lynch and Miss Lynch are players!?!? Lmfao
Also kudos to 5g towers! That shit's funnyzzz...Power Growing...zzz
Down for Mastina wagon possibly
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Well, that's great.In post 621, mastina wrote:
Eh, not effort exactly, but your reasons were "high post count" (not town indicative for ETL and can sometimes be the opposite; if I remember correctly, ETL can have lurkfest games as town but is always hyper-active as scum*) and "being actually excited"--something which in this game I'd call null-at-best, with the very real chance of it being scum-indicative.In post 608, Quick wrote:
What makes you think I was talking about effort?In post 605, mastina wrote:
I'd say "effort != alignment", but that'd be a bit disingenuous of me considering that in this case I happen to think that the effort does have an impact on alignment--aIn post 542, Quick wrote:ETL looks pretty townie? High post count and is ACTUALLY excited. But now they are serious.negativeone, so I should instead say:
Effort != town.
And it's simpler to roll those two up into my stereotypical phrase, of effort != alignment (or in this case, effort != town).
*And before ETL can point out that she has hyper-active games as town, my post isn't saying she doesn't. It's saying she'salwayshyper-active as scum, whereas she's not ALWAYS hyper-active as town even if she's hyper-active as town most games.
You didn't say anything about excitement though and that is a bit telling since that was one of my main points.
And ESL was WAY more acting than anyone else itt for the first 5 pages.
But if you want to get ME a TR, go right ahead, I won't press you on that.-
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"By looking at all my games over the past year."In post 632, mastina wrote:I mean my games are public record so it's not like I'd be lying about easily-confirmed, easily-provable information that is readily available for anyone to search up on their own.
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Say it ain't so.In post 634, Saudade wrote:SUPER BLUFFING-
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/threadIn post 638, 5G Tower wrote:Quick, your salt dries and hardens my sturdy pole.
I will never die.
While you babble on about reads and who's this or who's that, there is a war brewing in your cells.
I am...zzz.z..z...z.z..z.zz..z..z.z..Spanos!
Get it? Because my glorious 5G Network spans across the globe?
Damn, I'm good.
Except, who the fuck still cares about The Avengers?
Fuck it, I'm not Spanos. I'm 5G Tower, that shits threatening enough.
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But are you Town?In post 640, Saudade wrote:I'm almost tempted to unvote mastina here-
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Okay, so then it's NOT actually "very high probability" that they are Town. Good to know.In post 624, mastina wrote:
If the default were 50% for a user, I'd place him at somewhere in the 60-70% range.In post 618, Quick wrote:Put a percentage on FL being Town for me.
Someone look at that please.-
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Thanks for you time.In post 615, mastina wrote:I more or less think itfar more likelythat FL is just not invested as town,-
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Here's my reads list...
Town:
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Who Nero is voting
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In post 650, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:And my excitement was and is genuine considering this is my first non newbie game in like 3 years. I was invited, saw the player list, and the proposed theme, and was very much looking forward to the game. My excitement was shot down as “not optimal town play” and I’ve lost my desire to be heavily involved this day phase. If you think you can argue that’s alignment indicative you need to re-evaluate your methods of pushing mislynches.-
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Is No lynch a construct? I was under the assumption they were not based on their answer to me about it.In post 656, Auro wrote:
I agree that those are generally town indicative, but to the extent where you vote someone for pushing them - Some players are excited and hyperpost as scum, no? Did you have other reasons to townread them?In post 542, Quick wrote:I skimmed the first 5 pages.
ETL looks pretty townie? High post count and is ACTUALLY excited. But now they are serious.
Okay, that is my first read. GLHF.
It's more about the ratio of posts than anything else. ETL had like 25% of the posts at that point, which is VERY high for someone like them.
Also where was the lie in this?
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It's more about the ratio of posts than anything else. ETL had like 25% of the posts at that point, which is VERY high for someone like them.In post 661, Quick wrote:In post 656, Auro wrote:
I agree that those are generally town indicative, but to the extent where you vote someone for pushing them - Some players are excited and hyperpost as scum, no? Did you have other reasons to townread them?In post 542, Quick wrote:I skimmed the first 5 pages.
ETL looks pretty townie? High post count and is ACTUALLY excited. But now they are serious.
Okay, that is my first read. GLHF.
EBWOPIn post 661, Quick wrote:Is No lynch a construct? I was under the assumption they were not based on their answer to me about it.
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Huh?In post 662, Auro wrote:I mean, they're a player in this game (one letter is spelt differently) and it just seems like Elements interpreted "construct" that way, no?-
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I suppose I can see that, yeah.In post 662, Auro wrote:I mean, they're a player in this game (one letter is spelt differently) and it just seems like Elements interpreted "construct" that way, no?-
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They are an old school player. Games didn't used to run 200 pages and now they do. For an old school player to keep up like that shows what I said it shows. That it's very high volume for them and that they are excited to play the game.In post 666, Auro wrote:
So you have experience with ETL that informs you?In post 663, Quick wrote:ETL had like 25% of the posts at that point, which is VERY high for someone like them.-
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Yeah, I am not really sure what you are trying to say here. I saw the post they are talking about. It was completely pointless.In post 668, Auro wrote:
A quote from the player "No łynch".In post 567, Null Vote wrote:If you don't catch up, you will miss my hardclaim!-
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What are some of your stronger reads? You don't have to have any locks or anything like that, but how are you leaning rn?In post 671, Auro wrote:Okay then. Disregard 668, I misunderstood you.-
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This is a pretty deep play for this early in the game. props.In post 371, Auro wrote:
This was a reaction test. Someone said they found someone else scummy but weren't sure of voting, and Miss Lynch pushed them over it. So I mimicked that behaviour to see if ML would consistently react to it, which she did.In post 310, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
Why?In post 26, Auro wrote:I think Elements may be scum but I'm not so sure I should be voting there.. ?? what do you guys think
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I like your ISO quite a bit.In post 676, Auro wrote:Strong townreads are: {Mastina, ETL, Miss Lynch, Nero Cain}
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Well I'm not really sure why you were putting pressure on me when I am obvtown, but beyond that I don't really have any problems with your reads.In post 680, Auro wrote::3 anyone else you think I should be strongly townreading?-
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Maybe null town. But that is about it.In post 681, Hoctac wrote:Hasn't Hoctac been obvtown so far?-
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Time out.In post 14, Miss Lane wrote:I actually recognize more of this player list than I originally thought.
Nero, are you related to Eddie Came in any way?
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VOTE: mastinaIn post 686, davesaz wrote:Actually I wonder if scum strategy would be to form a townblock and subvert it.
Being able to infect the universal TRs would be a great strategy.
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You mean we can actually get a wagon going on farside?
Yeee dogggy!
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Interesting take as you admit farside isn't scum hunting.In post 819, Tchill13 wrote:Im null on faside now btw.
I liked farsides questioning early but farside thinks its hollow.
Nero thinks im legit scumhunting more than farside.
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I gotta say, this looks really good right now. Let's not screw the pouch and have it all fall apart in 4 days.
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What was hollow? That they are not scum hunting or something else?In post 823, Tchill13 wrote:
farside them self said it was hollow what am I supposed to think of that lol.In post 821, Quick wrote:
Interesting take as you admit farside isn't scum hunting.In post 819, Tchill13 wrote:Im null on faside now btw.
I liked farsides questioning early but farside thinks its hollow.
Nero thinks im legit scumhunting more than farside.
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[quote="In post 810not really town reading Vecna but my blood lust has dissipated.
was overly conscious.[/quote]
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IDK how to fix that.
Nero, what change for you on who you were voting before? (sorry bad with names, so don't know. The guy with the beavis and butthead avi).-
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If farside wants to NOT scumhunt, they should really be saying things like this and not what they are actually saying. Just saying.In post 691, davesaz wrote:
I think it's critical to know whether infected become aware of who other infected and/or mafia are, or if they just know they're infected.In post 689, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I don’t Know how to deal with alignment switches so I’m not gonna worry about it until tomorrow
I don't remember if the 1st page said anything about this. I think it's too close to bedtime to try to grok it right now.-
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"Oh, but this is SUCH a WEIRD GAME! I Don't understand what is going on. Send halp!"-
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