The Reckoning II: Invitational - BLOODY CONCLUSION!

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Vote: MattP

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VOTE: Reck

No I am not sheeping Fate/Nuwen. It just burns... JUST FUCKING BURNS that you are using a Meta Case to prove that you are "Town". People can change their meta at any given time, I know this and I've seen this done MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES were people when they get just a little pressure start using Meta to back them up, most of the time people listen to them. Not this time because I've always been the one to prove them wrong.

He's using the meta case to say he's town because people are using the meta case on him to say he's scum. (PEdit what reck said)

I don't like this game at the moment. Have some town reads but don't really have any scum reads. I'll try to figure out something tomorrow.

Unvote

for now.

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No easily traceable ties to my mason buddy if I am to die early?

Ireally don't get this because you claimed so easily.

Yeah...
Adorkable can you verify this claim or not? Using your mouthwords?
I also don't like how easily Reck wrote me off as town for "not attacking him". I could very easily be laying off him since my scumbuddies were already doing a good job of attacking.

Vote: xRECKONERx

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nhammen seems to be behaving pretty much like he does as town in face to face, so that's a townread.

Trollie seems to be acting like a voteless player, hard to get into a game you have very little say in. I'm guessing more likely town than not. Actually... I'm a bit curious as to why he's voteless.

@Trollie, are you voteless because of your role or because of someone elses role?

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nhammen seems to be behaving pretty much like he does as town in face to face, so that's a townread.

Trollie seems to be acting like a voteless player, hard to get into a game you have very little say in. I'm guessing more likely town than not. Actually... I'm a bit curious as to why he's voteless.

@Trollie, are you voteless because of your role or because of someone elses role?

in response to this:

Axxle:

What do you think of nhammen? Of Trollie?

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Also, just going to throw this out there: Nuwen was a voteless mafia goon in one of the UPick's (one of Reck's, IIRC). Being voteless isn't

necessarily

a town tell here. However, D1 fishing for the reason for said votelessness is a definite scumtell.

Why? If I was scum I'd know if scum did it, if I was and scum didn't do it I'd assume it was part of his role.

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Are you really trying to tell me that rolefishing is a town/null tell?

Absolutely not, I just don't think that I'd get much out of this particular information as scum. I think his answer will help me better understand his alignment.

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y do some ppl have no number next to them?

I think those are the people who have not had a vote on them the entire game.

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adorkable: what do you think of nhammen's response to your question?

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Dude... I'm pretty sure he has explained why he's voteless. Try iso.

now I see it.

Also, I'm surprised multiple people think I'm playing similarly to F2F. I was sure that I have been more active than F2F... I guess not. sadface.

Of course, Axxle could just be copying Confirmed on that front. OK, very confident in this new vote now. Whether the singlork's thoughts on me are true or not, it looks like Axxle was repeating what Singlork said.

You are more active here, but I assumed that was because you have hours and days to process information instead of seconds and minutes. Your town f2f is quite a bit more reserved than your scum f2f, you seem to not like being wrong so you wait much longer to do anything as town, many times not until you're prompted. That's what it seems like you're doing here.

axxle: I am a fan of "show, don't tell."

Wanted to make sure you didn't just drop a read.

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7 prods? This is the game to be in!

The last invitational I played in (scummer of love) a ton of the mafia just kind of lurked and never really explained their votes all that much, I had to vig them to get rid of them. I'm thinking that it might be a solid idea to do so here too. (not vig, look for scum). Actually looking back at that game, Reck was scum and plays ridiculously differently.

Unvote: Reck

As for the scummiest lurker... Welp, I guess UT reminds me of Panzer's play in sol, so...

Vote: UT

And yes I realize I'm hopping wagons here. Deal with it.

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Someone should governor him for more trolls.

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I am really not feeling fatescum.

dance vote: Gamma

Pretty much 100% sure he's town, not *that* certain of Nuwen.

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We can just wait for the votecount for that, right?

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We can just wait for the votecount for that, right?

(since he self voted)

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VOTE: Ythan
EK was the only one critical of Ythan, and now she's dead, easiest explanation right here.

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VOTE: Fate
I'll risk it because we still have an even number of players.

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if the fate lynch isn't happening I'm going back to:
VOTE: Ythan

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I am

really not feeling fatescum.

dance vote: Gamma

Pretty much 100% sure he's town, not *that* certain of Nuwen.

VOTE: Fate
I'll

risk it

because we still have an even number of players.

if the fate lynch isn't happening

I'm going back to:
VOTE: Ythan

this is the place to vote ppl

That's really not the whole story. Fate's already proven himself to be unlynchable (which was not the case yesterday).

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Trollie's point is that yesterday you were barely willing to lynch Fate, but today you want to and are only voting Ythan because you feel that 'the Fate lynch isn't happening'. How does him being unlynchable make you want to lynch him MORE. That doesn't make sense to me.

I wasn't willing to lynch Fate yesterday. I doubted he was actually unlynchable. I thought Reck's theory that he might be oneshot unlynchable might be worth checking out, since even if he was wrong it would reduce us to an odd playercount. (Thinking this through I now realize that if it also makes him permanently voteless, this line of thinking is wrong). Reck's given up on the Fate lynch and I was only lukewarm on it, so I'm going back to my strongest suspicion.

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Are you claiming voteless again?

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Are you claiming voteless again?

Sorry could have sworn trollie voted yesterday.

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Ythan isn't on the table today

Why do you think so? I think he's a great candidate for scum.

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Who would be sad if I killed Ythan right now?

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Let's give them something to talk about... how about claaaaaaaimm, claaaaim!

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Wait are you seriously a dayvig, Axxle? I need a 100% honest answer to this.

I'm not a dayvig, but I can force a lynch, which is why I'm much more conflicting using it.

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Vote: Fate

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need one more since adork survived.

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VOTE: Ythan

I can confirm my role if that's what it takes.

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Yeah that's basically it, I force everyone to vote for one person with my ~birthday powers~. I'll give Ythan time to say something before I do.

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VOTE: Ythan
EK was the only one critical of Ythan, and now she's dead, easiest explanation right here.

Was this all?

That and the fact you haven't had a presence here at all.

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[Axxle]

I agree with a massclaim if people think it will help.

I don't think Nuwen is the SK since the *entirety* of the players on her dance battle wagon are dead, and I think she'd target people that are less sure of her being town or haven't mentioned her being town.

Need to do more rereads.

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When I asked for a massclaim it was necessary to lock down the game. Since hohum just scum slipped by specifically looking for doctor/protective roles, massclaim is no longer necessary.

We know that there's a role that protects from a kill in the setup because of the adorkable kill mistake, so I don't know what you're talking about.

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Nuwen, can you continue the massclaim?

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If it was a roleblocker they would have come out and said who they blocked as soon as adork died.

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I'm resisting because it's just nota necessary distraction worth pursuing, but I guess COOPERATION. I'm thetrollie, with a one-shot ability "orgy." Target up to three people and if their roles are all male, they're jail kept. I targeted myself, fate, and confirmed town. I got a kdowns goodie n3 and used it last night.

A self targeting jailkeeper is pretty implausible, has anyone played a game with one?

Hohum, why did you target Fate?

nhammen, Trollie, can you both nameclaim? I don't think role is necessary.

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Axxle, I want you to summarize for me why you currently aren't voting for Hohum. Less than 3 sentences.

I was hoping to get more information out of him just in case. Looks like thats a no.

Vote: hohum

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Well played, Nuwen.

I wish I was a bit more active this game, but I ended up taking on too many games without realizing it. My hohum hammer was pretty bad, I think I tricked myself into believing I was thinking too hard and Nuwen's pushing was the breaking point there.

It was a fun game. The only thing I didn't like was the lack of roleflips, made things a bit murkier than I would have liked.