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The first vote on me every day can't be removed.
I don't want people fucking up in RVS and then having their hands tied.-
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Yes, really. I figure there's people who have some sort of thing that can affect it, though.-
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Miller claims bug me.
Doesn't that still not rule out the possibility of an SK?-
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Yup, bro. Your post will be colored differently and then you'll be screwed when you want to hammer some other scrub-butt.
Well, whatever that was, I hope people can do it a few more times. :3In post 16, FakeGod wrote:-
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I, uh, pretty sure that still counts.In post 18, Feirei wrote:Unvote
Vote: Varsoon
Unvote
Teehee~
(Also, this gives vezok no excuse to not post in the thread)
Fair'nuff.In post 19, Kagami wrote:
Doesn't rule that out, but I don't consider that multiball~In post 14, Varsoon wrote:Miller claims bug me.
Doesn't that still not rule out the possibility of an SK?
Just find scum, dawg.-
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Woah, we have the same deal? Well, there's a certain flavor character who doesn't get locked on me, but I don't want to out them.In post 24, Feirei wrote:Varsoon is town.
Kagami's random miller claimstillbugs me, but I can write her off as town.
P-Edit: GiF's vote is now stuck on me. I prefer no one else votes me unless you'rereally sureI'm scum.
Isn't it only spell-cards that can't be duplicate?In post 26, notscience wrote:Feirei and Varsoon are claiming like the same ability and noone's questiioning them?
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I'm so confused.
So the vote didn't get stuck on me and GiF voted... everyone?-
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Actually, looking over my PM, I think it's more along the lines that I'm immune to being frozen.In post 142, Kagami wrote:Varsoon, why isn't feirei's vote stuck on you?
p-edit: well, that answers it
Gotta figure that since Feirei freezes people, Feirei is also immune to being frozen.-
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Why are you concerned with being conf-town?In post 158, zMuffinMan wrote:will it confirm me as town?
coz you're gonna have to figure me out from day play and day cards in this game
Doesn't matter how you're perceived.
All that matters is catching scum.-
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I know it doesn't have anything to do with the game, but:
What should I order for food?
On game-related note, Borky, I see you not liking things.
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Was it the food-tell?In post 181, notscience wrote:I also don't buy into the varsoon-town yet
'cus sometimes a brotha is just hungry.
@Bork: I want to know why you don't like things.
It's easy to cross one's arms, but I wanna hear some elaboration.-
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I'm 100% sure I'm not. Looks like that'll be proven tomorrow.In post 194, Kagami wrote:O, then I'll help out. I'm basically 95% sure you are correct. Varsoon is scum.
Don't anyway go wasting protection on me. If I die, I don't care. Use your protects on Sakura.
Town's probably got a protective role. They can just shield you tonight.In post 193, Sakura Hana wrote:I can use it everyday anyway, it's not a spellcard. The downside is i wont know his alignment until tomorrow. <- This is why im more than likely to die during the night.
I could have just told you I was town.In post 188, Sakura Hana wrote:Ah jesus christ if i dont do this im gonna be paranoid all game, imma trust GiF's townread on muffin for the time being and clear this pile of WIFOM out
Miracle Mallet - Alignment Investigate: Varsoon
I don't know, maybe you can try hunting some scum?In post 208, Kagami wrote:I want to know what we're doing with varsoon. If I vote him I get stuck.
I'm basically certain he's scum, but now that sakura has done her thing, I imagine people will want to wait for tomorrow. =\
I'm town, but since I guess you can't trust that, I suggest you do work in looking for scum since there's definitely more than 1 anyway.
<3In post 229, zMuffinMan wrote:i just realised the irony of guyinfreezer having two votes frozen
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Then you'd be stronger for it.
It's not so much about trust, but deductive reasoning, inquiry, and communication that scaffolds into results.
Kagami, what makes me scum?-
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It's all good in the hood.
I'm wondering why GiF has amassed 4 votes.
I don't think that scum would be so quick to bust out a multi-vote and a day-card.
Especially a conniver like GiF.
P-EDIT:
I used to ask people to buy me pizza in like every game. People would always over-analyze it. At one point, Cabd thought 'Buy Pizza' was a crumb for BP. At another, someone accused me of using a 'food-tell' that's scum-indicative. Since I mentioned wanting food earlier, I figured maybe people were playing into that larger joke.
I actually didn't see the Daycop until 248, where I addressed it. P-EDIT didn't do anything for me, I think I was just slamming submit and alt-tabbin'.-
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Jesus, P-EDIT hates me.
I don't know why GiF still has votes.
zMuffin, can you articulate your shift to Raging Bull? I think I get it, but I want to know it.-
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What makes him scum?In post 261, zMuffinMan wrote:coz i think he's scum
(And yeah, I do make a differentiation between voting someone for a reaction/test/whatever and voting scum-reads, so this sort of answer isn't horrible. It just isn't articulate.)-
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<3 Sakura.
Thanks for clearing me, I guess. Still, I wish your ability caught someone instead.-
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I'm thinking the spell-card plays into his multi-vote ability.
Like, certain people he's voting can't target other ones or something.-
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Hey, Vezo.
Sorry you're not Cirno, but at least you're an IC?
You holding to your vote on Notsci?-
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I've got to assume there's a QT for pretty much every imaginable pair like there was last time.In post 332, notscience wrote:I don't get where GIF is getting his bork-obvtown read, I don't see anything really great coming from bork yet-
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In post 390, Raging Bull wrote:Double voter full game. If i hammer, i get triple vote next day. if i hammer, i get quad vote next day. if i hammer, get infinity vote but then i die once that day ends.
I'm laughing forever.In post 392, zMuffinMan wrote:that's fucking hilarious
Doubt this is scum, but it could be, I'm just scared of how much swing it could provide no matter what.
Like, "Whoops, voted the wrong person."
Don't know what to make of stuff.
Every time I see something happening I'm like, "Yeah! Yeah I can comment on that!" and then Pie or zMuffin or GiF does.-
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Why do you want a race claim?In post 564, SXTLHGaiden wrote:I want a race claim, but no one wants to give it to me.
Also, this still amuses me.
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I think the most important thing, even though this is role madness crazy absurdity, is to actually play the core game.
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Instead of complaining about it, let's get down to business and figure out the people we do have here with us.-
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Trying a different approach for larger games, especially ones with lots of swing.
I'm also tired of losing and of having players who get carried away, so I really want this.-
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Assume you mean this list?In post 471, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh right. I forgot about the suicide element on RB's claim.
Yeah that makes him town too.
Town:
SXTLHGaiden
Sakura Hana
zMuffinMan
notscience
thenewearth
borkjerfkin
vezokpiraka
GuyInFreezer
Kagami
Raging Bull
Leftovers:
pieguyn
Hanasawa
One of {Feirei/Varsoon}
Bitmap
I attribute the frustrated questioning aspects to Pieguy's towngame. It feels genuine, like he really wants you to respond and is getting upset when you don't.In post 476, GuyInFreezer wrote:Normally I would put pieguy as town at this point but this time I don't wanna because he was whining at me all day yesterday just to get me to answer those lame questions that are all alignment-neutral aspect of my play.-
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Who GiF is reading as town:
SXTLHGaiden - I don't like Gaiden that much in this game, actually. Insistence on claims, backseat play, and general aimlessness aren't sitting well with me. Explain this read.
Sakura Hana - Wasn't sure what to think, but I'm pretty sure that Sakura's town after the Miracle Hammer and interactions. If that was faked (IE: Hammer does investigate, but Sakura is scum), then Sakura's throwing down insane-strong scum game that's several levels deep. I'm pretty sure this is just town Sakura.
zMuffinMan - Muffin man always tricks me. I'm reserving my damn judgment on this one, and I assume you're only town-reading him for reactions. If not, explain this read.
notscience - I'm sketch on this one too. Don't like the votes on GiF and RB. Don't like rationale. Don't like NS trying to keep everyone scum-read and promoting WIFOM. It all bugs me. Why is this town? Do you know something I don't know?
thenewearth - Town a hundred times town town forever the new earth town earth town w w w dot thenewearth is town dot com.
borkjerfkin - Bork's a dork. Interaction looks sly and genuine and smart, though. I'm town-reading this, too.
vezokpiraka - Conf.Town.
GuyInFreezer - You're a fucking slippery one. I don't know what your card does/have good interaction to deduce it, so I don't trust it like I do Sakura's. You asking me to comment on your reads list feels awkward to me. If you're scum, you're not scum for your abilities or your role. You're scum because of your play. I want to explore that more than anything.
Kagami - Miller claim makes me feel weird but the play checks out and I've got Kagami as a heavy town-lean, myself. Assumably, you know more about Kagami than me/us.
Raging Bull - I think this is town. Scum could too easily abuse the power and has no reason to claim it like that aside from trying to be insufferably town, which doesn't mesh with the rest of the play coming from this slot.
Leftovers:
pieguyn - Pie's town. Don't know how you could read him as scum in this game. Why aren't you sure on this one.
Hanasawa - I'm also super sketch about Hanasawa. Figure I'll just wait for the slot to come in-game again.
One of {Feirei/Varsoon} - Y'know, why can't we both be town? We've got a neighborhood together, actually. We've got abilities we're both immune to. I'm town. Feirei feels pretty damn town, too.
Bitmap - Absolute blank on this one. Do you know how to get Bitmap to interact/produce alignment-reflective content? 'cus I sure don't.-
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It's your avatar, man.In post 589, zMuffinMan wrote:
where is this coming from?varsoon wrote:Muffin man always tricks me
because i think i've only played against you as scum twice (well, three times if you include 519 where we were both scum and killed each other N1) and in both the games you've been town against me you've been, at the very least, mildly suspicious of me. even in gif's touhou game, you claimed you knew i was manipulating you, so i dunno if that even counts as tricking you.
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@GiF: Sakura's interaction post-spell card, especially in quick response to when people questioned it/it was discussed. Also, that moment of lamenting using the card on me really hits home.-
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tucking this info away 5everIn post 640, GuyInFreezer wrote:I don't pull gambits without a failsafe.-
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It's one of those things I figured (you're slippery) but having Word of God on it gives me a point of referral rather than just evidenced moments.In post 644, GuyInFreezer wrote:You shouldve known that since your first game
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@NS: Yeah, was hoping that'd give a little insight on the overlap/immunities we seem to have.
Explain why GiF is scum?
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Feirei's solid in my book. I assume we're neighbors and not masons 'cus that'd be TOO STRONK or something.-
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Gaiden
Notsci
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Dunno how you could scum-read Pie. The dude's name is Pieguy. nnnnnn-
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You'll know I'm town tomorrow. I'll either be gone after night or I'll be here in the morning with a cop-confirm.-
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All my town reads are on the RB wagon
But I don't know why RB is at L-2.
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This is valid.In post 713, borkjerfkin wrote:I feel like we should be attempting to confirm RB (if possible) rather than lynching him. A potential town RB becomes a liability for scum late in the game that they will be forced to NK.
If that fails he can be a policy lynch the day prior to lylo, but I see a fair bit of 'RB's role is likely a scum role/too powerful if he's scum' which on D1 in a role madness game should be at odds with the fact that there are tons of mitigating factors that you can't possibly know about yet.
I'm not Letty. Lol @ that auto-correct every damn time.In post 743, Feirei wrote:
If you mean Varsoon, then no.In post 738, notscience wrote:Version are you letty
I don't like the unvote from Gaiden.
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I think pressure on the slot is unnecessary, plus I wanted to see what Gaiden's response was.
I was expecting more venom from a scum-Gaiden.
Hm.
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More than the doink/clueless response I got.
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Pretty much. Would've left it there to see how RB reacted, but zMuffin deflated that plan.-
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Don't think we've really pinned RB's alignment in a way that's transparent for the entire playerbase.In post 811, Sakura Hana wrote:Why do you think removal of pressure on RB was unnecessary?
Wasn't satisfied with GiF and RB interaction in regards to flavor or whatever.
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RB claimed weird double vote interaction, it was a bit unclearIn post 830, thenewearth wrote:ok so I don't really see how RB is scum.
And I don't even get how the wagon started.
Can someone please explain?
RB then claimed that if RB hammers people, RB gets more votes every day
People freaked out for some reason
People didn't like RB's reaction to them freaking out
I think that's pretty much it. I don't get it either, but I want a better handle on RB anyway.-
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Yeah, this too.In post 836, Sakura Hana wrote:What I didnt like about RB was constantly pressuring GiF into more stuff about his spellcard when the mod already had confirmed that there were no spellcard errors, and then him blaming me for Gaiden's vote.
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Actually, if we wanted to confirm GiF's flavor knowledge (it's pretty evident), I can be mod-confirmed for flavor.-
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VOTE: Bitmap
Please get in the game and provide some thoughts on things:
How do you feel about the swell and fall of the RB wagon?
What are your thoughts on GiF?
Thoughts about your wagon? Do you perceive scum on it? If so, who?-
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VOTE: Gaiden
It's okay, bork.
I'm apparently equally bad at reading NS.-
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I feel like Gaiden's been going under the radar a lot.
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Yeah, Feirei shouldn't be today's lynch regardless.
However, Feirei is town, so don't lynch/vig.