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Lol yeah okay, whatever you say man.In post 183, MrZepher wrote:Agar's completely right (in his second post) whether he's scum or not. People need to be active contributors in this game if we want to get anywhere.
The fact that Jordan has done paramount to nothing yet the Agar train is still going tells me that Agar is probably town.
To be honest I have already lost confidence in sheeping you in the future.
Vote better people.In post 208, Svenskt Stål wrote:Why?In post 207, Venmar wrote:To be honest I have already lost confidence in sheeping you in the future.
In post 212, Svenskt Stål wrote:Kindly go fuck yourself.
Oh, that's weak and you should know it.In post 241, BirdAndBeast wrote:Zd asking AGar to vote us and AGar refusing awkwardly is more reason to see them as scum together.
No? I just think you're wrong?In post 300, Serene2 wrote:it's not irrational, I saw people attacking him for something that I see as town, and you expect me to clam up about it?
In post 498, Venmar wrote:Thats.. lol well okay.
Like.... wtf, i'm still confused, how can youIn post 497, Serene2 wrote:Gah! I hate these shifts! Our three heads nearly busted a giant, three-pronged aneurysm in frustration that we couldn't counterclaim straight away.
In post 501, Svenskt Stål wrote:Venmar, do you think serene is ocunterclaiming the inoocent child? Please explain to me how you would suspect that.
In post 496, Serene2 wrote:We're counter-claiming Public Ascetic Deathproof Innocent Child With An Expiration Date.
No no, trust me, you're fucking brilliant.In post 511, Serene2 wrote:I'm an idiot.Agar just dropped a mega town tell and I hard a brain fart with Venmar, I thought he was hinting at a cop result but we didn't have an actual night yet.
VOTE: Venmar
Stupid, Null, Conflicted, NullIn post 591, BirdAndBeast wrote:Venmar: What are your reads on: Serene, Dry-fit, Zepher, hiplop? (not random)
Please explain this to me like i'm a 5 year old furiously and obnoxiously smashing a train into the checkered carpet floor. What is this thing I keep reading about Zoraster and some other lover shenanigans?In post 548, Zdenek wrote:I think they are claiming a guilty on Zoraster.In post 546, Infinite Jesters wrote:so what do you think that titus creatures are doing with their soft-claim?
do you think that they are lovers or are claiming a cop guilty?
this looks like a throwaway vote tbh
Not lovers because they talk about Zoraster being the lynch after their flip.
Stopped reading right here.In post 597, BirdAndBeast wrote:Well, ok, Im bleh. I wrote a few walls in the QT and mastin just posted to say she will get to this later.
Basiclally (and I realize this is a major shift in previous started opinions) I think the scumteam is Zdenek, Serene, Venmar, Zoraster, Hiplop, Dry-fit.
1. I'm not dumb, I believed it because I couldn't detect the sarcasm at all, especially due to the second post they made, 2. Dumb =/= ScumIn post 597, BirdAndBeast wrote:Venmar acts like Serene is serious about their BRO CC? Uhhh, Venmar isnt that dumb.
1. "too big of a commotion" sounds like Mastin overdramatising everything and distorting facts, 2. I'm barely reading Zephers posts to begin with, and i've shown disapproval for other speculation such as the one around Zor?In post 597, BirdAndBeast wrote: Venmar makes wayyy too big of a commotion over them FoSing/CCing an IC and doesnt give 2 shits about Zepher speccing on the same BS.
YEAH I FUCKING ASKED BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE SPECULATION ZORASTER, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK WAS GOING ON SO I ASKED FOR IT TO BE EXPLAINED TO ME LIKE IM FUCKING 5. WHEN I REALIZED THE SPECULATION WAS AROUND SOMETHING I ALREADY READ I MADE IT CLEAR OF WHAT I THOUGH OF THE INFO I NOW HAD CLEAR IN FRONT OF ME. jesus christIn post 597, BirdAndBeast wrote: Zdenek/Venmar: Venmar is seriously asking Zdenek about his Zoraster vote, when he apparently already saw the LD posts in question?
His post is the one that stood out to me because this post by IE attracted me to it, and I just decided to quote it.In post 597, BirdAndBeast wrote:And Zdenek had the least to do with the lover speculation so why Venny is asking him about itis mind boggling.
NO, I FUCKING DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ZDENEK OR ANYONE ELSE WAS TALKING ABOUT OH MY FUCKING GODN OSGHAS]PGHAS'VBA[SOBV[EW0RIn post 597, BirdAndBeast wrote: Since Venny already read the LD posts and decided they were just being dramatic, IDK why he sees Zdenek sheeping them to be particularly interesting or worth investigating.
>.> (this reaction though)In post 1165, BirdAndBeast wrote:Did you seriously just claim Lyncher for our slot?
This is a pretty swagger reads list though
noIn post 1246, MrZepher wrote:BB's basically confirmed town until we have reason to think otherwise.
what the fuck is this? who says this? why? how? your say on behalf of bnb just completely disappeared with this comment, good job manIn post 1313, Svenskt Stål wrote:I am probably going to defend BnB thi shift.
In post 1349, BirdAndBeast wrote:Venmar- mafia aligned. This is not Venny's town game. This is not Venny working with people. This is not Venny showing interest in things in a townie way or trying to solve the game. His push on us is scum-motivated, thinly veiled with OMGUS. I don't reallysee much outside of his opening few posts that I actually like from him and his push on us is SO BAD. And it was clear he wanted to go that way ever since I put him on my pet scumteam. HES SCUM. SUCK IT VENMAR.
In post 1376, Brian Skies wrote:And Venmar is probably one of the first people I'm working to sort through now.
like, how much could you ask for? this video proves bnb is scumIn post 1384, Serene2 wrote:
thanks! this is exactly the exact fucking reason i never have ANY motivation to interact with an IC. you just proved why me talking to you was going to be a waste, like it has?In post 1504, BROseidon wrote:andthe fact that I'm confirmed townAND have a solid history with AP means that I'm going to win.
idk, to separate me from agar and bnb, who are my scumreads i guess?In post 1532, PeregrineV wrote: If your town and scum moved you, it could only be for some reason. Even no reason is a reason.
In post 1712, PeregrineV wrote:Why is BirdBeast scum?
please, please, PLEASE don't make me actually want to try in this game and make a case on bnb, im too lazy and i just dont do that anymoreIn post 1711, xRECKONERx wrote:I don't like lynching B&B because I really want them to be scum and when I did skim the thread I remember agreeing with their posts.
Now compare this post and its tone, attitude, and assertiveness:In post 1191, Venmar wrote:Strongly reconsidering my stance on BirdAndBeast, his response to Serene's lyncher claim was bad. His #1189 is also all over the place and generally bad, and his "paranoia" of Brian, and everyone else seems unwaranted and generally seems shady and most likely not that legitimate. He also, not as much, but slightly, is reeling a bit from his enormous scumread pile of like 5 people, backing off of a couple of us and wishwashing his read on Hiplop. (You know, the horrid post of #597 where he decides to call out an entire scumteam?)
How can you tell me "Yeah i agree with his reads/posts" when their reads constantly change radically, and "conveniently" according to the game state? Last time I played with Mastin, in Xenogears, he also scumread me when I was town, but his read was usually stagnant or adamant, he relented sometimes but he persisted in thinking I was scum. In this game, his read on me changes like the wind, and it's more radical than in XenoGears. Combine this with his unwarranted and horrible paranoia last Episode, horrible reaction to Serene's "lyncher claim" (yeah ill keep saying it), and then continuous bad interactions.In post 1362, Venmar wrote:And compare it to BnB's readIn post 1349, BirdAndBeast wrote:Venmar- mafia aligned. This is not Venny's town game. This is not Venny working with people. This is not Venny showing interest in things in a townie way or trying to solve the game. His push on us is scum-motivated, thinly veiled with OMGUS. I don't reallysee much outside of his opening few posts that I actually like from him and his push on us is SO BAD. And it was clear he wanted to go that way ever since I put him on my pet scumteam. HES SCUM. SUCK IT VENMAR.RIGHT AFTER I am thrown off his shift:In post 1551, BirdAndBeast wrote:I waffled on Venmar in the QT recently. I have him in my scumlist, but on reflect, I'd really rather lynch any of the other 3 people in that list over Venmar (Zdenek, Hiplop, Dryfit). Venmar's argument with BRO felt faintly town to me. Not enough to make me throw away my read there, but enough to make me realllllly want to look elsewhere today if we can.Venmar:@BRO:I really dont think Venmar came of scummy in the argument with you. He came off looking pissed. Which is a nulltell, but overall in a vacuum I'd guess that he is town in that exchange. Im wondering if he was moved shifts to be a distraction and stand out and get in a pissy argument with you (look how conveniently that happened). If Venmar was really mafia and getting swapped to your shift to avoid pressure, would he really just say "fuck you BRO" on loop? I mean maybe and I lean a little scummy on him still and would lynch him over most people, but eeeeeeh. EEEEHHHHHH. ...
This felt townish to me
this too sort of