SAGA FRONTIER MAFIA (GAME END)

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:27 am

MC:Yosarian2

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:28 am

Sensei is town too so whatever.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:39 am

Everyone put your egos aside and vote Gale.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:34 pm

FIRE is separate from "Hated". So Yos takes 2 less votes to lynch.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:39 pm

Simply making an observation.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:20 pm

I've taken some distance form the game. Klingon is town. Gale is scum. If you look at Gale's posts, there is nothing that is off-the-cuff. Every single sentence is extremely thought out. This isn't his playstyle, I can guarantee you. His first vote for Drixx could have been planned or not and is null.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:24 pm

ZZYXY is probably town. Anyway, we need to start doing things. You know, voting people, putting pressure. Today has been a total waste of time after DS got killed because you have 4 players who only post in the hood

Mod: prods please

. You've got the Flum/SKy/Pip triangle that doesn't go away. Then you've got a bunch of players not posting content.

Basically it's me, Yos, and Lowkey. Yos you need to trust me on Gale, let's do it. CC as well. Gogo.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:24 pm

Everyone needs to vote Gale now, or this thread is going to die because we are all bored about no wagons happening.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:59 pm

DGB vote Gale.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:02 pm

Yos vote Gale

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:20 pm

OK so anyway Yos and DGB and everybody vote Gale.

Titus didn't you suspect Gale too or something. Let's get this done.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:29 pm

yo dude you're not voting for anyone. Stop wasting our collective time and vote.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:35 pm

I'm at L-2, trying to inspire a sense of urgency here.

Albert B. Rampage (7): FIRE, Zulfy, Gale Wing Srock, ZZZX, Klingoncelt, BIT, Drunken Pirates
Gale Wing Srock (3): Albert B. Rampage, Lowkey, Fluminator
DrippingGoofball (2): BIT, Drunken Pirates
Klingoncelt (1): DrippingGoofball
The Cool Cucumbers (1): Drixx
Itlepip (1): Skybird
Yosarian2 (1): FIRE
Zulfy (1): Itlepip

Not Voting (5): Sensei, Yosarian2, , Rylai and Lina, The Cool Cucumbers

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 6182, Gale Wing Srock wrote:I didn't say I want to lynch you lol. You are the one trying to lynch me, so I am saying one of you can come with me to the graveyard. I wouldn't mind if I take a scum with me, this game is too large for me anyway.

Titus/Klingon/Zulfy/ZZXY how is this not extremely scummy?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:21 pm

Gales knows he's minced meat, he just wants to take one of us down with him before he flips, Yos.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:34 pm

Look at my posts yesterday and how paranoid I was about Yosarian. I accepted his support quietly without ever reciprocating much of a townread in return. It's only after his play today that I know he's town. I've played with him more than any other player in this game, I can say with certainty that he's town.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:37 pm

In post 6191, Klingoncelt wrote:He's clogged up the game long enough. He needs to go.

I specifically didn't post for almost two days because of what you said WTF. You didn't even address me saying DP has 150 more posts than me and is clogging the thread way more. Obvious double standard here.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:37 pm

WOW. Sensei come back we are double lynching Gale and Klingon WTF.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:39 pm

All the skilled players are saying you're scum and I'm town. Stop.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:40 pm

Gale is literally going to go the exact same road Max went on of "Albert's play doesn't make sense". Unbelievable. Two scum caught the same way and half the town is too asleep to do something about it.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:46 pm

You're the inventor of OMGUS. Stop joking around.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:48 pm

Klingon has done fuck all this game except OMGUS she should replace out she is literally the worst player I've ever seen in the history of playing mafia, worst than ika, SW, etc. worst than anyone I've ever met in real life and played their first mafia game with, worst than the worst trolls who weren't even playing to their wincon, just the absolute, most garbage player ever.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:58 pm

In post 6259, Sensei wrote:The only weird thing is that I've been scumreading Gale like the whole game and it's like just NOW he starts getting traction.
And his posts Day 1 were astronomically worse than his posts today.
(Yes I'm still hem hawing I apologize)

We were more certain of Max being scum, there's nothing wrong about that.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:00 pm

In post 3093, Lowkey wrote:As someone who has more experience with ABR's style of play a la Fate, Spyrex, SDC in general, and my own playstyle circa 2011/2012, this is not a scumgame you can pull off with it. That or, frankly, this shit is pure next level. It's absolutely fucking impossible. As scum trying to hit MC and posting in this manner, you can't post >400 fucking times and get away with it. You literally can't. Half the posts have to be non-scum related, yet they aren't. In fact, a lot of them are scum related, going for something logical, or trying to be helpful. You have to put up a certain persona that's not helpful in any way or avoids this kind of attention. You don't have some masterplan to spam as much as you can until you get MC. You
need
to lurk some because you're a very transparent person when you are as blunt as possible (and, as a result, insulting). Every post would be thought out or checked over and your blood pressure and heartrate rises. >400 posts in a D1 with that doesn't happen. It doesn't. End of story. He's hit the game and has changed reads instead of picking an easy tunnel and leading on it while posting
moderately
. This is very, very important and anyone with a more aggressive, one-liner style of play should be able to recognize this as a purely town game.

I will fight you to the fucking teeth if you oppose him as MC too because he's said, in terms that are in no way unclear, scum names revealed D3. If you have a problem with that, you're scum. ABR is town, you're paranoid and have zero clue what you're talking about or how to deal with his playstyle and you're clueless, hopeless, and bad at reading that type of playstyle. He should be MC, clear as that. Yes, his early judgment sucked but frankly he's one of the better players that, once you know he's town, you can trust him to have at least some very solid townreads. This Drixx shit can stop. Yes, you know he's town, but that's it. That's. literally. it. He has not been as engaged as others in scumhunting, townhunting, or reading players in this game and has focused on typing out a lot of walls where it isn't clear just how well he's following the game besides the game's flavor and mechanics. And, frankly, there's no other pros to voting him in as the MC asides from knowing he's town. You can't be sure he's going to have good townreads, you can't be sure he'll put the right people in his party, he definitely doesn't need NK and lynch immunity, and, to top all of that off, his only claimed role power was being the first MC. He benefits in no way role-wise by being voted in as the next MC. No, every ounce of my being points to an ABR MC vote.

Titus/mollie, this was for you. This is also for anyone dumb enough to vote abr right now.

I haven't finished catching up and I read a couple other games in the middle of writing this so I'm probably a page or two off from where I wanted to post this.

Another answer to the question of why I'm town that still applies.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:45 pm

I feel like this game is stalling horribly. I want more Gale votes. We can end the day. Don't visit Koolong without me, obviously. I recommend Lowkey, Yosarian and me in the party. Switch out two members of the current party. Let's wrap this up.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:45 pm

Stop being antitown. You should not reveal anything about my role to anybody. Not unless I am in a secure neighborhood with you.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:47 pm

My role is EXTREMELY important and can save the town an extra day or two.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:49 pm

I am not revealing specific details and may leave many things ambiguous to WIFOM the scum. But suffice to say that I have the most powerful healing powers in the entire game and can make or break it for the town.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:51 pm

So help me lynch Gale and if he flips scum you can say "ohlol ABR bussed again" or whatever. And then I'll catch another scum after that and again until we win lol

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:54 pm

What do you mean show your work why don't you open your eyes. He was blatantly sheeping me (like Gale) until he got scared of me (like Gale) and then tried to vote me out (like Gale) for no goddamn reason and nobody wanted to bandwagon him with me for 40 pages until finally Yosarian and the others came around thanks to my persistence and the resistance of DP (like Gale) so we finally got him lynched.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:55 pm

Max's literal argument was "What Albert claimed doesn't make sense! He's lying! Therefore he is scum!" which contradicted his strong apparent townread for me and didn't make any sense as a follow up. Gale then did the exact same thing. They are both scum together.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:57 pm

In post 2869, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Full reason I'm going against ABR? I can just grab quotes of myself for that one, since I've explained it. I'll do that in another post. But, the gist of it is, I was onboard with ABR town, then he made his big claim about how he absolutely must be MC or he'll die, at that he'd gotten to the point where he was towny enough to be nightkilled but not towny enough to be MC, and so he was worried about dying. That's what he claimed. After checking if ABR knew that an elected MC doesn't get kill immunity until the day after, and that he could still be killed that night, because he doesn't actually become MC until the next day... suddenly it wasn't making sense. ABR DID know, he was the one who told us. And after I realized that, I started examining his play with nightkills in mind. He wasn't playing like someone who didn't want to die.

In post 2909, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Shiro: what diamond said, basically. Except for the part about 'even if it means a loss, ABR shouldn't be MC', like... I'm fighting against it because I think it'll result in a loss, not because I just don't like ABR... Sentinel, what did you mean by that?

In post 3203, MaxwellPuckett wrote:
In post 3155, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3154, DiamondSentinel wrote:Also @Pirate Mollie: How's that for someone lying about having read? What he said was 100% false. I haven't said I scumread Titus since the first 200 posts.

That's not remotely as bad as pretending to have read something from another game that you haven't. Not saying that's what you did, just parroting the accusation pirate made.

I didn't notice this before, but.. what? This is blatant misdirection, but since all of ABR's moves have been blatant I guess it's not surprising.
ABR subtly acknowledges that itlepip was wrong about DiamondSentinel currently scumreading Titus, but pushes that under the rug in favour of saying the same thing mollie did (and acknowledging this too), in order to turn things back onto DiamondSentinel. Except, he never actually makes the accusation, he just puts it down as a possibility...
And, so, what was the point of this post? ABR takes a factual post and turns it into a dig at Diamond without actually accusing him of anything. This is great stuff, I'm taking notes!
ABR and itlepip as buds, anyone? The misdirection, the chainsaw defense, it's there. This won't be relevant until later probably, but I'm saying it now for posterity.

In post 3025, MaxwellPuckett wrote:
Yosarian: DGB's play hasn't really impressed me, and yeah, I think ZZZX wanting to engage and trying to understand her is more towny than DGB scumreading him for the whole game, but barely mentioning ZZZX beyond those early game reads posts.
I'll take another look at DGB, I already said that.
The fact that you're thinking there's only one way to read that situation is weird, actually. I don't know DGB, I've never played with her, why is it suspicious that I find her blunt refusal to engage scummy? You really can't imagine a scenario where I'd find that weird? That's what's weird.

Yosarian, you never responded to this. That you saw DGB's 'i dont engage with scum' post, had one thought in your head about how a person could react, then saw me acting differently, and your instinct was to call that scummy.. that just doesn't follow. Either you actually can't grasp that others would have different opinions on that, or you jumped at the chance to prepare to get onto my wagon for a concrete reason.

Drixx: This is how I find scum. Dressing up a gut read as something other than one is dishonest and therefore scummy, so I'm picking at it to see where it goes. But, I
am
tired of repeating myself.

In post 3825, MaxwellPuckett wrote:
In post 3241, Rylai and Lina wrote:
In post 3016, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Klingon, ABR, are scum

so your suggesting ABR was busying a partner? or only 1 of them is scum ?

~Rylai

I brought up the possibility of it being a bus, but the scumreads formed independently. They don't contradict each other, with ABR's behaviour, though.

In post 3728, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You know what, I'm not gonna claim.

If you vote Sensei MC, he will die, it will revert to Drixx, and I lose the chance to deliver a scum by day 3.

If you vote me for MC, I'll WIFOM my way out of a kill, Sensei might die anyway, and I will get you scum on day 3.

Albert deciding not to claim was towny, and I was going to say as much. Unfortunately...

In post 3759, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:
In post 3753, Sensei wrote:Ight.

Double Slash: Cooldog

This wasn't the mass double vote thing right? I figure it wasn't . If it's extra votes or something though you should let us know before someone accidentally hammers.

-Cerb

This is the first sword technique, in the list on the first page. It's a double vote.

In post 3777, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Time for me to claim, I'm the Town Doctor. Dr. Nukasan. I am Bulletproof on Odd Nights, I can protect on Even Nights. My role is to protect MC on even nights (2,4,6) and prevent scum from killing them every night. If I reach a certain location to gain a certain Rune ability, I can protect every night. I'm what stops scum from eliminating the voted MC.

In post 3778, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The reason why Varsoon feels that the MC mechanic is balanced is because half the time I can protect the MC from scum. Good job outing me guys.

We
outed
you
? If your role was to protect MC on even nights, you completely destroyed that utility by claiming this.

In post 3793, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Because town loses its only doctor if I'm not voted MC

In post 3811, itlepip wrote:
In post 3808, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I claimed doctor. They can't be serious scumreading me. I'm the only doctor in the game.

Does your role say there are no other docs?

How on earth could you know if you're the only other doctor in the game? Also, doc fishing.

CoolDog is town, I'm pretty sure of it after seeing his posts. The wagon isn't a good one.

MC: Sensei

Rylai and Luna are also town, as is DP and... probably, DiamondSentinel.

Yulfy (Wicked slot, is that the name?) is so scum. Klingon, ABR...
Who wanted Lowkey dead? Can someone quote that case?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:58 pm

Sensei why are you not thinking about how strange it is that DP was scumreading Max on Wednesday last week, and then on Thursday last week, she was townreading him, right when I realized he was scum and started attacking him?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:15 pm

In post 6301, Sensei wrote:Pretty fine with a gale lynch at this point.

Lay down a smackdown vote

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:00 am

DGB vote for Gale.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:02 pm

In post 6327, Albert B. Rampage wrote:DGB vote for Gale.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:21 pm

In post 6342, wgeurts wrote:Let me finish reading the game before you decide to hammer, I want to be confident in what I choose before any decision is made.

You've been saying this for a very long time. Give us a time window. Apathy will kill this town before you finish reading if it's anything more than by Tuesday night.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:37 am

Pip vote Gale. We're lynching him tonight.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:41 am

Yos, Gale is a good player. Strong town play. This is not it.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:42 am

You don't control this game, Titus. You're powerless.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:43 am

Go back to your taliban cave while the real scumhunters do their jobs.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:50 am

Coincidentally the party is crap and none of you can scumhunt.

Party should be me, sensei, yos, lowkey and skybird.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:52 am

No it fucking didn't.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:53 am

I say who lives and who dies, and Gale dies in the next 16 hours. Sit your ass down and enjoy the show Titus.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:54 am

No she is pissing me off so much.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:57 am

Only Shiro and Sensei can realize that the rest of you have no good reads on this game or are scum. None of you are confirmed town.

Gale is fucking obvious scum and we are lynching him in the next 16 hours and you're going to have to swallow that pill.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:58 am

Hammer Gale

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:01 am

No Flum, keep your vote on. Shiro or ZZXY can come in and hammer.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:01 am

Flum is already voting Gale he can't hammer. I have no time for games.

We are going to hammer this obvscum and clear me, yos, and lowkey.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:03 am

We're not fucking double lynching, we are hammering Gale now.

Flum you are already voting Gale you can't hammer.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:05 am

First person to hammer Gale gets my personal kudos. Do it now.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:06 am

No we have majority. The hood is filled with scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:08 am

Full claim now you're at L-1.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:10 am

Sensei when Gale flips scum DO NOT PICK ANYONE FROM THE OLD PARTY AGAIN. We need a thorough discussion of the game state together without potential scum listening in.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:12 am

DUDE NO TIME FOR LYING FULL CLAIM NOW, FLAVOR, ROLE, ACTIONS. NOW.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:13 am

Sensei I swear to god if you are considering listening to some fucktards who want to lynch me...if you lynch me as town I am blacklisting you from all future games. This is my strongest town performance in a year.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:15 am

Nobody trusts you dude, claim now wtf

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:17 am

CLAIM NOW WHAT IS THE DELAY.

When you flip it will break the game apart and Titus and Rylai are scared straight.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:18 am

Skyburd voting you but why are you not claiming???

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:20 am

Why do you need me to unvote for you to claim? Some kind of scum ability?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:23 am

Wow this guy is the most obvious fucking scum. Remember scum have day talk. He's conferring with his buddies trying to buy time. We should probably hammer before he can use any nefarious abilities on us with his buddies. Or he has "confirmed town" in his scum group and thinks they can pull him out of this problem.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:24 am

"My role is lynch bait" lololol. Sensei please, do the honors.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:26 am

You can daykill anyone who doesnt vote you, is that it?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:28 am

I think you have a day action that you can use on anyone not voting you. Flum should re-vote so we can end the day after you refused to claim at L-1.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:29 am

Day vig or night vig? Why not use it yesterday on Max?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:32 am

I don't buy the claim. Spiffleh was a 1-shot vig, so was Cooldog, and so is pip. This guy is scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:34 am

This is a blatant lie. Gale needs rope.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:37 am

He's claiming spiffleh's role (guy who was modkilled day 1) and part of cooldogs role. He went and looked at their role pms while we were asking him to claim. I guarantee you a scumflip on this one.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:42 am

In post 6465, Sensei wrote:
In post 6459, Gale Wing Srock wrote:
In post 6457, Sensei wrote:
In post 6455, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Night Vig, and I need to kill a scum with it or go on three adventures.

What do you mean by this?
Like if you don't shoot scum then it fails?

No if I don't shoot scum, then the ability is not unlocked. Also, if I don't shoot scum I get a perm hated vote.

This feels like a lot of negative utility to happen for missing scum. Vigs like never end up hitting scum.
And when you do you get an ascetic?
Doesn't really sound right. I dunno.

He frankeinsteined the dead flipped roles together to make a believable fakeclaim.

He wanted to buy time because he was pm'ing Varsoon for a fakeclaim.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:47 am

No. Tired of this shit. I want a lynch now.

Vig is not provable. Scum can have an extra kill. I had one in my last scum role in large theme Advanced Wars mafia. I had factional kill + 1-shot NK.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:50 am

There is little question to whether or not Gale is scum in this game. Read his town games. He's so bad here. Obvscum if you ever played with him before. He's very good. Gets NK'd night 1 a lot. He's not neurotic like here.

The more we wait the longer the thread gets and the more bullshit people need to read, so no, waiting a week isn't pro-town.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:52 am

I caught 3 scum already. The chances of us hypothetically picking a kill target right is minuscule. We can't let him live.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:57 am

Gale is one of the best players I've had the chance to play with last year. This guy is a killer. Fantastic scumhunter. The most far away from derptown as you can imagine. Also didn't we call Diamond derptown too? Remember how that turned out?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:59 am

In post 6493, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Thats crumpets.
I don't know about you lot but my role PM has quotes not separate move names. Let me check the flips to see if that also applies to them.

Nah I have move names.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:01 am

In post 6498, Gale Wing Srock wrote:
In post 6491, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Gale is one of the best players I've had the chance to play with last year. This guy is a killer. Fantastic scumhunter. The most far away from derptown as you can imagine. Also didn't we call Diamond derptown too? Remember how that turned out?

Then why were you ignoring my Flum read?

Because you're scum, I've made that abundantly clear.

I had been scum reading you for a long ass time before I said anything about it. You threatened to replace out so I purposely hid my scumread of you until you were more invested in the game.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:04 am

Why don't you believe it? This isn't the first time I've said that.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:07 am

In post 2848, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Guys, I don't think I am ready for a large game

At page 50 atm and yesterday night saw the game at 100 pages, and now we have 13 more new ones (Whoa!). At this rate, Idk when I will be able to catchup with you guys. Also, noticed that a lot of talk went on during last weekend, so assuming the same this weekend makes my head spin; and the worst is that I am busy this sunday.

I would really like you guys to suggest if I should just replace out, because Idk if I am cut out for this. Maybe someone else can read through quick? Idk.

Anyways, as far as I have read. I don't like Diamond Sentinel, I think they are hiding something and are too focused on how they are read in this game. I think that they have been scummy till the half way mark and I don't think they have improved by the likes of it. I agree to a vig call on this slot, as their contributions are more defensive and agenda oriented and doesn't seem to progress the game a lot.

Diamond Sentinel: I would like you to mention why you think Drixx can be a better MC than Drunken Pirates, ABR or Yos2. I don't want the 'started as MC' bs. Tell me what you think about their posts this game, and what made you feel that they are good enough to be our MC for a second time (Ref: #213). And what do you think about being Vigged tonight?

I still haven't reached the point where Errant made their entrance, and not buying the post restriction comedy that I saw in the few pages I ran through, as it can very well be faked after such a long time into the game. Seems very convenient to come half way into the game and hint at post restriction as scum.

I don't like the fact how Flum wiggled his way out of the wagon, seems like he got a lot of help doing so. A wagon on a townie would mostly dissipate the way it did for R&L. Its the wagon on scums that can dissipate the way it did for Flum. Other players coming to his rescue and trying to get wifom built up inorder to stop the wagon, screams scummy to me. And, the most revealing thing to me is how Flum reacted to the wagon while it was just starting to build up. It seemed like he was sure that a wagon would build on him, and was ready to tackle it with Wifom. Which only explains that his claim was pretty well planned.
A) I don't like townies to come into a game with pre-planned agendas, as it makes scum hunting that much more difficult.
B) Having an idea of a non-miller claim is different from planning for the claim and for the wagon that would be formed. How well he executed that non-miller claim, is what is troubling me the most. It definitely doesn't smell townie to me.
C) Also, his posts have that passive-deflective demeanor that good scums usually have.

Fluminator, do you care who you would want to hammer today? If you wouldn't like to hammer someone, then who would it be? and if you don't get to hammer today, what will be your reaction to that?

Drunken Pirates, could you explain what made sense to you from Flum's post #651? As you mentioned in your post #715 about it?
Also, point me to the post where you mentioned why Max is scummy. Idk if Max is PR passive or scum passive, and that is the reason I want to continue reading the game because it seems a lot of the development happened in the rest of the pages.

Anyways, at the 50 page mark I don't think Skybird is lynch worthy for Day1, but I am town reading ABR pretty hard and going to trust his judgement on this till I catch up completely.

Note: I haven't read the last few pages, since it would only cause more confusion to me and I don't want to lose the clarity I have atm. Although, if anyone could fill me up on the latest developments, then it would be swell.

PEdit: Wait a minute, so we are going to vote for Klingoncelt then?

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:08 am

After this post, I purposely hid my scumread.

Yeah exactly CC. I said he was the best replacement instead of saying I thought he was town. I chose my wording carefully.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:13 am

In post 6516, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:
In post 6510, Albert B. Rampage wrote:After this post, I purposely hid my scumread.

Yeah exactly CC. I said he was the best replacement instead of saying I thought he was town. I chose my wording carefully.

You see someone scummy and you body-slam them with they way you hunt, you would have proposed a lynch on him besides CoolDog had you truly been suspicious.

That's such bullshit, I was scumreading Max and didn't capitalize until he turned on me which really made it obvious. Same with Gale.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:14 am

When Gale flips scum it will point a direct finger to TCC and Drunken Pirates.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:31 am

I fucking told you. He's usually good, but he fell apart under pressure here.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:34 am

No double lynch. We need a Gale flip to prove a lot of people wrong.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:37 am

Not just his quotes now, but his entire play today has been riddled with emotional inconsistencies and haphazard guessed to blend in.

Flum/Sensei you can hammer.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:37 am

Ya do it

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:24 pm

VOTE: Skybird

MC: Albert

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:53 pm

What ability did you get from hammering?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:02 pm

Skybird what did you do last night?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:03 pm

In post 5718, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yall need to MC me. I'm going to catch every last one of these scum bastards with raw ability.

I'm a monster at this game.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:03 pm

In post 5720, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 5430, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VOTE: DiamondSentinel

We've talked at length about why DS should flip scum. I don't think he's a town ascetic but a scum ascetic.

He's playing in a very selfish way and Sensei should have taken Yosarian into the party instead of him.

In post 5434, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 5432, Lowkey wrote:
In post 5430, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VOTE: DiamondSentinel

We've talked at length about why DS should flip scum. I don't think he's a town ascetic but a scum ascetic.

He's playing in a very selfish way and Sensei should have taken Yosarian into the party instead of him.

Explain why? I still think he's town tbh.

Yosarian had an authentic "the town is doomed" reaction.

When DS softclaimed the same day 1, it was suspicious but he could have been a PR.

With his ascetic claim, it no longer makes sense in context for him to have fakesoftclaimed.

If you look at his posts, he is ideologically opposed to doing just that.

Therefore, he's scum.

In post 5435, Albert B. Rampage wrote:It seemed to me that he was hinting at vengeful townie. He later claims he was trying to draw night actions from scum...? It doesn't make sense. I don't even recall him speaking up when Max was asking for people to RB. His whole play is riddled with mental traps and inconsistencies. He's awkwardness should not be confused for towniness.

In post 5439, Albert B. Rampage wrote:We lynch DiamondSentinel before he gets a double vote or something equally nasty.

In post 5440, Albert B. Rampage wrote:His indignations and outbursts are not genuine. Just like I caught Max.

We're doing it again.

This was all posted YESTERDAY. Directly before the dayvig.

I was driving the wagon.

Now we lynch Max's budy Gale.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:07 pm

Drixx just one more. Remember when I said that Gale was going to die that day, and then he did? That was so sweet!

In post 6372, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I say who lives and who dies, and Gale dies in the next 16 hours. Sit your ass down and enjoy the show Titus.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:10 pm

Not only did I correctly call cooldog and pip town, and all 3 of the scum that flipped, I also correctly called their associations. I said DS was not with Max, and that Gale was with Max. Give me some respect Zulfy

admit you admire my mad scumhunting skills.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:29 pm

High five Yosarian

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:05 pm

I'm not doubting Sensei's alignment. I'm simply more confident in the value I bring to this town.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:23 pm

I said I would work with Titus after day 3 when she has associatives and flips she can work on. I look forward to that.

I think it's in the best interest of town if you claim your role though. How is it that you can confirm yourself? Can Titus explain her thoughts progression since day 1 until now?

Pirate what did you discuss together last night after Gale's flip?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:22 pm

Full claim please. It's up to the town to decide if you are too dangerous to keep around until you are indestructable.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:54 pm

In post 6598, Drunken Pirates wrote:
In post 6596, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Full claim please. It's up to the town to decide if you are too dangerous to keep around until you are indestructable.

we already have.

its a confirmable role.

Be specific. Is it innocent child?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:48 pm

Flavor DP? How does the ability make sense for your character?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:50 pm

In post 6622, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Also to those that still think klingon is scum do you honestly believe both less-experienced scum that have flipped bussed their partner this hardly?

It looked more like distancing than hard bussing.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:59 pm

Fair point TCC. Can you vote me for MC?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:06 pm

Leadership is taking a toll on Sensei. He revealed to us that he is becoming paranoid and stressed. He doesn't want to be MC for the rest of the game, even though he doesn't trust anyone 100% yet (those in the party are close to it). It's affecting his play in a negative way because he feels that if he pushes someone everyone will just sheep him and he would be unable to get reads.

I will make a better town MC.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:11 pm

Well you know how people are, once they get power they try to hold onto it no matter what like gollum in LOTR.

I mean, whos scumhunting are you most impressed with?

I promised one scum by day 3, I caught 3. What more can I do?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:32 pm

How does your ability make sense with you being a robot?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:32 pm

What other abilities do you have besides being BP?

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:36 pm

They are probably vulnerable to tree stump even if they are BP.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:43 pm

Yeah they could. It's in the techniques list.

Albert B. Rampage · Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:45 pm

Does your hated also come with a RB?

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:26 pm

Can Titus come talk because she needs to own up to her own actions instead of hide behind a hydra.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:40 pm

I'm happy with my Skybird vote until I see more scumhunting from her. I want Drixx to come into the light and post the case he has built. This town needs more solid leadership, and I'm the man for the job. Titus should come back instead of sending her other head who is blaming everything on her and she is nowhere to be found. That is the opposite of leadership, it's downright irresponsible.

I'm not concerned by DGB yet. She's voted scum with us when she could have joined DP's folly under the pretense of not knowing what is going on. Zulfy has a lot to answer for. Lowkey has yet to comment. Flum should reveal what ability he received. Frozen needs to calm down and let Shiro be the voice of reason for the hydra.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:43 pm

I want to be a lot more inclusive of everyone in the thread and keep you posted on what happens in the PT. If you guys are curious about what happened during the adventures, feel free to ask. We're all a part of this, we as the town will win or lose together, and we have to trust each other to make it through.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:47 pm

In my regime, it won't be the party vs everyone else. More players will get the chance join the hood and go on adventures. There won't be any "party approved lynch" nonsense, everyone has a say in who we lynch. We've caught, together, three of the scumbags, and they are just miserable now. They are hurting. And it's time for us to get engaged with the game and capitalize on that. Sensei has done the best job he could, under the circumstances. He is growing more and more reclusive and paranoid. We need action.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:31 pm

No, you haven't been "as on point" as me. You let cooldog get lynched. I would never have let that happen in your position after he claimed 1-shot doctor. Your involvement in Max's lynch was late. I've done all of the heavy lifting in this game and stuck my neck out for this town, almost getting lynched by a minority of players. You claimed with four votes on you Day 1. We aren't the same.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:36 pm

My play speaks for itself. The town can decide.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:09 pm

Drixx, who would you vote between Skybird, Klingon, and Zulfy?

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:24 pm

I'm tired of players "taking things to the hood" as if that will solve anything. Yosarian and I are the only ones who are saying that the game should be played in the thread, not in a hood. We won't accept it. Sensei and Drixx are continuing to play as if they are the only ones in this town, and that nobody else can lynch scum.

I'm tired of it.

Rylai, Drixx, I've heard all of their "plans". Here's a newsflash. There's no plan that's going to save us. There's no magic bullet that is going to make the town instantly win because we predicted the right sequence of night actions. I specifically parodied this "end of the world if we don't vote me as MC" nonsense yesterday as a vaccine to the inevitable stubborn infallible plan that will save us from the evil scum.

Put in the work and scumhunt in-thread like everybody else. You're not better than anyone.

We're going to win the old-fashioned way, that's how Lowell did it, that's how Mith did it, and that's how Mafiascum does it.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:37 pm

DGB iso 3 players not named zzzy and rank them in the order they should be lynched.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:45 pm

Mod: I will be V/LA Feb 10-15 as I am travelling to Washington DC

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:32 pm

I think we need to take Skybird out.

Albert B. Rampage · Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:14 pm

There won't be a double lynch today, guys.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:25 pm

DGB claim

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:02 pm

lol DGB is town guys

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:02 pm

Zulfy + Yosarian + Skybird are the scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:04 pm

I will accept surrender on behalf of the town of Saga Frontier Mafia if the scum decide that it isn't worth their time going through the motions of lynching them one by one.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:24 pm

Lowkey, DP, and TCC, I have a simple question for you. If you answer correctly, I reached a hasty conclusion. If you answer incorrectly, it will justify what I think is a slip.

What do you think Sensei's abilities are?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:25 pm

List the complete abilities of Sensei before he sparked any new ones from adventuring, I'm talking about at game start. What actions are available for him to use?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:59 pm

In post 7040, Yosarian2 wrote:Yeah, ABR just totally went off the deep end for absolutely no logical reason in the adventure chat, as I think everyone else in chat can attest to.

You realize that Sensei suddenly claimed that you knew his role without him ever saying what abilities he had, right?

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:10 pm

You're useless, Sensei. Yosarian is confirmed town unless you go saying things like he knows you and Zulfy's exact role abilities.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:25 pm

In post 7059, Drunken Pirates wrote:I am confused. abr in 7033 you said yoyo was scum. now you say he is conftown? huh?

Sensei made up a lie saying Yos guessed his unclaimed abilities in the party chat as a reaction test. Yos hasn't guessed Sensei's abilities.

TL;DR Sensei is being paranoid and making up stupid tests and wasting our time.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:37 pm

Sensei made up some stupid lie that Yos was scum, then he's like "aha was a reaction test! He's not lying". So therefore, Yos is town.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:38 pm

In post 7063, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sensei made up some stupid lie that Yos was scum, then he's like "aha was a reaction test! He's
doesn't know anything he's not supposed to as town
". So therefore, Yos is town.

fixed

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:47 pm

Just play the game in the thread guys, stop making stupid reaction tests outside of the main thread.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:16 pm

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:16 pm

I'm a doctor, not a mason.

Albert B. Rampage · Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:29 pm

I don't. Yos and I just think she's town.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:56 pm

Drixx all you want to do is slow down. This whole game you've been slowing things down. Get excited about something man.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:56 pm

TCC you should claim because I think they want to lynch you today.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:14 pm

In post 7116, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Actually, before I start doing anything, I want to ask your opinion ABR/Drixx: Should I spend the time responding to what Sensei/R&L/Yosarian have said about us?
-Cerb

pedit: DP: Umm. Okay. So...you're telling me I shouldn't respond to anything? I'm confused by why you're telling me to stfu if I'm town and wise. :-/

Don't defend, proactively scumhunt and go on the offensive.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:20 pm

You're not going to waste your time scumhunting and helping the town win?

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:21 pm

It's not worth defending and replying. You're basically being accused of not scumhunting enough. Scumhunt more, the votes will go away. I have no plans on voting you.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:25 pm

Drixx is gonna make that promise, if the game could be frozen all winter the dude would praise the gods of mafia. Don't worry, this is a passive town, you will not be hammered. Do your research and come to your conclusion.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:28 pm

I'm talking about Yosarian who has legit concerns over the slot, you're just paranoid Sensei you don't have a case.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:34 pm

Actually you should reply to Sensei's post but not Yosarian. Go do that, it's not even long.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:34 pm

In post 7109, Sensei wrote:
In post 7083, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:"the way they were attaching themselves to DP in day 2 to prevent a gale lynch without pushing it themselves is a scum tell" - We placed the L-1 vote and said we are willing to vote but I just want to finish catching-up,
we never defended GWS once.

Ok.

In post 5730, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:
In post 5724, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sheep me on Gale, I've got this game.

My main reservation with regards to Gale is they left the cooldog wagon in order to put more pressure on max, BEFORE I made my push to get a double lynch going. I still feel it's unlikely scum wanted Max dead, so that leaves me with the feeling that gale is likely town. The beginning of that push on MP waa all blank votes amd sheeping too, so it's not even like someone presented him with a compelling argument to give him a reason to vote his scum buddy.

-Cerb

ABR: you're alive because you're scum, or because the scum team didn't want to kill you. They clearly had access to a strongman last night and chose to RB 5 random slots instead of killing BP claims.

What is this then?
Couldn't be the first time the entire game your slot takes a stance on gale.
Oh wait it is.
And it's deliciously hedgy.
Yum.
Also question where are you seeing a gale push on max before we decided on a double lynch?
Or is that just something you made up?

In post 5738, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Cool ABR. I haven't even read the entirety of Gales iso, so like...yeah, I can't really argue in favor or against, other than to note what I did above. It's a small thing, but it doesn't seem like the line I'd expect a partner of Max's to take.

Do you still think the game is multiball ABR? As in, SK+ 2+ unique group scums? Or does the SK make you think it's one groupscum+SK? I'm just not seeing Gale as max's partner(on weak evidence), but if it's multiball that entire weak point is moot.

-Cerb

This is slightly later on. But pretty bad too.
"I haven't read in depth, but it's an unlikely line for a Max partner to take." - This doesn't sound like a real thought.
"Anyway let's change the subject, you still think this game is multiball?" - Shifting focus away from gale.
Hehehe.

-

I also agree with flum that CC's behavior right before hammer is concerning.
We had two people within hammering distance ala 2x gale slash and he was pressuring ABR to fully claim on the back of DPs push. While simultaneously throwing softball questions at gale such as this.

In post 6486, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:GWS, claim the flavour of each of your individual abilities.

And the followup is equally soft and immediately retracted. Seems like half hearted distancing.

In post 6493, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Thats crumpets.
I don't know about you lot but my role PM has quotes not separate move names. Let me check the flips to see if that also applies to them.

In post 6495, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Ah they do.
Nevermind me

But I believe the weirdest thing. Is the kneejerk reaction to gales "I was playing scummy day 1 for role related reasons."
Seen here.

In post 6527, Gale Wing Srock wrote:
In post 6510, Albert B. Rampage wrote:After this post, I purposely hid my scumread.

Yeah exactly CC. I said he was the best replacement instead of saying I thought he was town. I chose my wording carefully.

Then where did you start scum reading me exactly? I said I played to my Vig role on day 1. I wanted to appear scummy and still scum hunt. Thats how I have seen Vigs play. Remember Soren in the game that you are talking about?

Bad post. But enough to warrant a full turnaround.
Not really.
I've rolled strong roles and done similar playstyle shifts. Roles that you simply don't lynch - at least right away. Cop and Vig are two of those rolls.

In post 6529, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:ABR, claim.
P-edit:
Maybe we can vote GWS.

In post 6530, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:Bwhahahah
That's the most ridiculous thing I have read in a long time.

This is the reaction in question.
It's over the top I think.
Whoever thought ABR and Gale would both flip scum was either huffing paint or had some kind of agenda.

In post 6541, wgeurts wrote:Sensei, do you want to double lynch today or no?

"Hey Sensei, you can have my buddy today but can we pwetty pwease lynch ABR too?"

VOTE: Cucumbers

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:10 pm

VOTE: TCC

I'm just gonna hammer to piss off Drixx.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:14 pm

If Yos, Sensei, Rylai and Drixx all think he's scum, then screw it.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:37 pm

Reaction test lolol

UNVOTE:

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:36 pm

i cant

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:41 pm

This is for pip.

VOTE: TCC

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:43 pm

I spent two fucking days defending pip from Titus and you just fucking stump him after he daykills the unlynchable SK? NO. You die now.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:44 pm

Pip was super town, you needed to stump DGB or DP or Zulfy. You can't be this bad if you're not scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:51 pm

No just die

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:53 pm

No double lynch, we're just going to lynch TCC. Imagine he tree stumps Sensei or some shit. We're not taking any chances.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:57 pm

What does it matter. You knew that you were caught and going to be lynched too. This is the end. gg guys. No need to wait for wgeurts, I mean there's little he can say to change anyone's mind at this point.

P.edit: MCs are only protected from lynch and NK.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:58 pm

OK they are not, but you can still tree stump the MC at lylo.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:59 pm

Yeah you would have had a case if you caught us some scum instead of tree stumping obvious town. There's no mercy for pip's killer. You deserve to be lynched.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:01 pm

You could have tree stumped any number of lurkers, antitown players, scummy players, you just didn't give a fuck. You blatantly pushed a bad Cooldog double lynch, then you tried to treestump DP, then you tried to get me to claim, the whole thing reeks. I think you're scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:02 pm

In post 7224, Klingoncelt wrote:The Cool Cucumbers - I was reading them as solid Town, but recent cases against them does cast a bit of doubt. Lean Town

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:03 pm

Flum claim what ability you gained from hammering.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:04 pm

Then you don't get to hammer today.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:06 pm

You are a liability. We don't know that you're telling the truth. Even if you are, you're still a risk. We don't want you to fucking stump anybody.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:06 pm

UNVOTE:

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:07 pm

I feel like you've left something out cerb. Full claim.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:09 pm

I know there are people who want you to tree stump DP. So there's also that to take into consideration. There is also the possibility of tree stumping Rylai so that we know if Zulfy and Sensei are really confirmed town or not. There are too many risks. I'm not sure it's a good idea to give you free reign to ruin the game if you choose to, if you're telling the truth about your role.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:10 pm

That's weird because DiamondSentinel had a fakeclaim and he was 3P too.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:14 pm

I'm not going to rush a lynch until Yosarian gets back. Take care that wgeurts returns before then if you want him to say anything.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:19 pm

In post 1, Varsoon wrote:Fade to Sepia. The End.
You are aligned with the Protagonists (town). You win when all threats to the Protagonists are eliminated and at least one Protagonist-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

We win when all threats to us are eliminated. You are a threat. We need you eliminated.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:24 pm

Enough WIFOM. We must wait for Yosarian.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:34 pm

No, it's because Yosarian needs to collect his useless ring.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:35 pm

Seems like your tree stumping of DP failed because they are bulletproof, not because you were RB'd.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:41 pm

Anyway it doesn't matter because I lied about being bulletproof. I was just WIFOMing the scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:53 pm

Cerb I really think that we need a Rylai flip.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:57 pm

In post 0, Varsoon wrote:Klingoncelt
The Cool Cucumbers (wgeurts & cerberus v666)
Drunken Pirates (Titus & Pirate Mollie)
Drixx
Zulfy Wickedestjr
Rylai and Lina (Shiro & Frozen Angel)
Skybird
Albert B. Rampage
DrippingGoofball
Yosarian2
Lowkey (Lowell & Hinduragi)
Fluminator
Sensei
ZZZX

I am hard pressed to find 3 scum here. Somebody is lying.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:57 pm

wgeurts finish reading before responding thanks.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:58 pm

VOTE: Rylai

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:00 pm

Scum should be 25% of players. 21 players. 5 scum + SK.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:03 pm

Rylai tried to lynch me yesterday to save Gale.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:03 pm

Well obviously Skybird should test it on TCC.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:28 pm

Get rid of Frozen. I am parking my vote there until the end of the game.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:29 pm

I'm sick of her attitude I just want her to die or I am parking my vote on her forever until she's dead in the ground.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:33 pm

They won't agree but stump her anyway.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:43 pm

Kill yourself or get stumped. I don't care at this point.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:46 pm

I know that and I still want you to do it.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:52 pm

OK here's the plan TCC. You're going to tell the others that you won't kill Rylai right now so they let you live but in reality tonight you and I know that you will.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:54 pm

Excellent.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:40 pm

Yos you need to accept the ring that Sensei gave you.

Albert B. Rampage · Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:50 pm

I'm thinking that if the scum have another unlynchable role, which they might, you never know, TCC's tree stump may prove useful to us. Perhaps it may be advisable to steady our hand for a few days and let this play out.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:19 am

Which is why he shouldn't stump anybody until the time comes. Consider it a reserve.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:11 am

I agree with ZZZX. What's interesting about the current game state is that no one is under much heat. Sure TCC and DGB's names are tossed around, but we're accomplishing precious little. I will be V/LA Wednesday until Monday while traveling so please be aware.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:34 am

Stop your personal insults immediately.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:36 am

Every time she's scum she starts bringing up random bullshit that has nothing to do with the game to survive. That's how you know she's scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:38 am

TL;DR Rylai is likely scum vote her.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:40 am

Every time she draws scum, "I am the stupidest creature" blablablabla people unvote and are afraid to attack her and then she wins as scum. Every time.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:41 am

In post 7427, Rylai and Lina wrote:Abr reasons :

1 - Rilay's role is so good to be true!
2 - I hate Rilay's attitude! She needs to die!
3 - I hated the way she voted me last day over gale!

My defense :

1 - Fuck you!
2 - Fuck you!
3 - Fuck you

is there anymore questions?!

~Rylai

Personal insults / verbal abuse ^

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:42 am

No you're not. You said the same thing 7 times

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:44 am

You attack me for lying you're the biggest liar of all. I've seen your dirty tricks. They don't work on me anymore.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:46 am

What we're going to do about it is that you will desist right now.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:48 am

You used your blowups to your advantage to win as scum, that's why we can't trust you.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:50 am

Show the town when you blew up as scum to get people to unvote you. Show them. They deserve to see for themselves.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:51 am

It's WIFOM and setup spec but I find it hard to believe TCC didn't use a fakeclaim or something.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:07 am

I'm not "a jerk". This is Frozen's play as scum.

In post 912, Frozen Angel wrote:The fuck I can't be out of the site for 10 min to make myself a tea?!

As I already said it in my wiki I prefer to be a mafia player as I think I'm better at that. In each mafia game of mine people called me obvtown so far, but in my town games - I'm always an oppurtunistic scum baddie who wants to manipulate with her ATE - your free to check meta. I think I need to work on my town meta

plus I was one of the late pickers in this game and I didn't got a mafia role. I was the one who was asking a lot of questions about Alliances and Fusions and forced Varsoon to put a FAQ in first post. Plus I asked several questions about that I can pick my alignment and role in any way I want and what my role actually means.

plus I need to go somewhere so I can't post till night - IF you can understand that.

In post 717, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 713, farside22 wrote:What I will do if you are both town is essential black list you both with this game as a reference as to why you two shouldn't play together and show that you play to not scum hunt at all tells me my point is more valid then your point about how to play this game.

I literally accept this as an Insult to my method of playing and my personality. I really don't feel the need to prove anything to you atm.

If your town, I don't like to play with you either. Your scum hunt is a joke. Bye Felicia

In post 56, Frozen Angel wrote:If yes I'm extremely apologising.

In post 55, Frozen Angel wrote: sorry fro , I think I have an important part in that decision.

In post 1568, Frozen Angel wrote:JESUS CHRIST NO SHIT

I KNEW YOUR GUILTY WAS FAKE BECUASE I'M TOWN

THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

In post 1575, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1570, RadiantCowbells wrote:FA still scum, we still lynching.

YOUR STILL THE WORST FAKE CLAIMER EVER.

YOU JUST WNATED TO INSTALYNCH ME

I'm FUCKING TOWN AND YOU FUCKING KNOW IT. STOP THIS BULLSHIT

pedit : I GAVE MY READS! I CAN'T THINK WHEN YOU WANT TO MAKE ME INSTALYNCHED

In post 1582, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1581, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wish I wasn't so weak to AtE.

The reasonable part of me has known FA is scum beyond any real doubt since like forever.

I suck at dealing with all this tugging at my heartstrings

WHAT FUCKING REASONABLE REASON?!

The fuck IS this ever happened for a scum slot to be under THIS HUGE PRESSURE since start of the day 1 and never slipped?! I'm TOWN and you have nothing on me.

Stop this bullshit and lynch scum.

In post 1937, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1935, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Your not even bringing meta reads ... Your just wanna insta lynch me to say " hey ! see how cool am I?!"

This really isn't Town!FA's reaction at all.

You want me to just repeat I'm town for like 500 another posts?

yeah! not this time. I'm kind of feel humiliated and heartbroken about this. yes I know this is a game. and that's me being me. your fucking using my personality to just fool everyone else about my alignment and I'm siriously tired of playing with you.

Albert B. Rampage · Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:13 am

So your emotional outbursts are deceiving. You are not sorry. You showed that you apologizing for your insults is part of your strategy as scum to begin with. There's nothing town about you. You will get tree stumped tonight or lynched because we need to see your flip.