SAGA FRONTIER MAFIA (GAME END)
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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- Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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I've taken some distance form the game. Klingon is town. Gale is scum. If you look at Gale's posts, there is nothing that is off-the-cuff. Every single sentence is extremely thought out. This isn't his playstyle, I can guarantee you. His first vote for Drixx could have been planned or not and is null.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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ZZYXY is probably town. Anyway, we need to start doing things. You know, voting people, putting pressure. Today has been a total waste of time after DS got killed because you have 4 players who only post in the hoodMod: prods please. You've got the Flum/SKy/Pip triangle that doesn't go away. Then you've got a bunch of players not posting content.
Basically it's me, Yos, and Lowkey. Yos you need to trust me on Gale, let's do it. CC as well. Gogo.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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- Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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- Posts: 27261
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- Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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I'm at L-2, trying to inspire a sense of urgency here.
Albert B. Rampage (7): FIRE, Zulfy, Gale Wing Srock, ZZZX, Klingoncelt, BIT, Drunken Pirates
Gale Wing Srock (3): Albert B. Rampage, Lowkey, Fluminator
DrippingGoofball (2): BIT, Drunken Pirates
Klingoncelt (1): DrippingGoofball
The Cool Cucumbers (1): Drixx
Itlepip (1): Skybird
Yosarian2 (1): FIRE
Zulfy (1): Itlepip
Not Voting (5): Sensei, Yosarian2, , Rylai and Lina, The Cool CucumbersGuard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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In post 6182, Gale Wing Srock wrote:I didn't say I want to lynch you lol. You are the one trying to lynch me, so I am saying one of you can come with me to the graveyard. I wouldn't mind if I take a scum with me, this game is too large for me anyway.
Titus/Klingon/Zulfy/ZZXY how is this not extremely scummy?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Look at my posts yesterday and how paranoid I was about Yosarian. I accepted his support quietly without ever reciprocating much of a townread in return. It's only after his play today that I know he's town. I've played with him more than any other player in this game, I can say with certainty that he's town.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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In post 6191, Klingoncelt wrote:He's clogged up the game long enough. He needs to go.
I specifically didn't post for almost two days because of what you said WTF. You didn't even address me saying DP has 150 more posts than me and is clogging the thread way more. Obvious double standard here.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Klingon has done fuck all this game except OMGUS she should replace out she is literally the worst player I've ever seen in the history of playing mafia, worst than ika, SW, etc. worst than anyone I've ever met in real life and played their first mafia game with, worst than the worst trolls who weren't even playing to their wincon, just the absolute, most garbage player ever.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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In post 6259, Sensei wrote:The only weird thing is that I've been scumreading Gale like the whole game and it's like just NOW he starts getting traction.
And his posts Day 1 were astronomically worse than his posts today.
(Yes I'm still hem hawing I apologize)
We were more certain of Max being scum, there's nothing wrong about that.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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In post 3093, Lowkey wrote:As someone who has more experience with ABR's style of play a la Fate, Spyrex, SDC in general, and my own playstyle circa 2011/2012, this is not a scumgame you can pull off with it. That or, frankly, this shit is pure next level. It's absolutely fucking impossible. As scum trying to hit MC and posting in this manner, you can't post >400 fucking times and get away with it. You literally can't. Half the posts have to be non-scum related, yet they aren't. In fact, a lot of them are scum related, going for something logical, or trying to be helpful. You have to put up a certain persona that's not helpful in any way or avoids this kind of attention. You don't have some masterplan to spam as much as you can until you get MC. Youneedto lurk some because you're a very transparent person when you are as blunt as possible (and, as a result, insulting). Every post would be thought out or checked over and your blood pressure and heartrate rises. >400 posts in a D1 with that doesn't happen. It doesn't. End of story. He's hit the game and has changed reads instead of picking an easy tunnel and leading on it while postingmoderately. This is very, very important and anyone with a more aggressive, one-liner style of play should be able to recognize this as a purely town game.
I will fight you to the fucking teeth if you oppose him as MC too because he's said, in terms that are in no way unclear, scum names revealed D3. If you have a problem with that, you're scum. ABR is town, you're paranoid and have zero clue what you're talking about or how to deal with his playstyle and you're clueless, hopeless, and bad at reading that type of playstyle. He should be MC, clear as that. Yes, his early judgment sucked but frankly he's one of the better players that, once you know he's town, you can trust him to have at least some very solid townreads. This Drixx shit can stop. Yes, you know he's town, but that's it. That's. literally. it. He has not been as engaged as others in scumhunting, townhunting, or reading players in this game and has focused on typing out a lot of walls where it isn't clear just how well he's following the game besides the game's flavor and mechanics. And, frankly, there's no other pros to voting him in as the MC asides from knowing he's town. You can't be sure he's going to have good townreads, you can't be sure he'll put the right people in his party, he definitely doesn't need NK and lynch immunity, and, to top all of that off, his only claimed role power was being the first MC. He benefits in no way role-wise by being voted in as the next MC. No, every ounce of my being points to an ABR MC vote.
Titus/mollie, this was for you. This is also for anyone dumb enough to vote abr right now.
I haven't finished catching up and I read a couple other games in the middle of writing this so I'm probably a page or two off from where I wanted to post this.
Another answer to the question of why I'm town that still applies.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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I feel like this game is stalling horribly. I want more Gale votes. We can end the day. Don't visit Koolong without me, obviously. I recommend Lowkey, Yosarian and me in the party. Switch out two members of the current party. Let's wrap this up.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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What do you mean show your work why don't you open your eyes. He was blatantly sheeping me (like Gale) until he got scared of me (like Gale) and then tried to vote me out (like Gale) for no goddamn reason and nobody wanted to bandwagon him with me for 40 pages until finally Yosarian and the others came around thanks to my persistence and the resistance of DP (like Gale) so we finally got him lynched.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Max's literal argument was "What Albert claimed doesn't make sense! He's lying! Therefore he is scum!" which contradicted his strong apparent townread for me and didn't make any sense as a follow up. Gale then did the exact same thing. They are both scum together.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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In post 2869, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Full reason I'm going against ABR? I can just grab quotes of myself for that one, since I've explained it. I'll do that in another post. But, the gist of it is, I was onboard with ABR town, then he made his big claim about how he absolutely must be MC or he'll die, at that he'd gotten to the point where he was towny enough to be nightkilled but not towny enough to be MC, and so he was worried about dying. That's what he claimed. After checking if ABR knew that an elected MC doesn't get kill immunity until the day after, and that he could still be killed that night, because he doesn't actually become MC until the next day... suddenly it wasn't making sense. ABR DID know, he was the one who told us. And after I realized that, I started examining his play with nightkills in mind. He wasn't playing like someone who didn't want to die.
In post 2909, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Shiro: what diamond said, basically. Except for the part about 'even if it means a loss, ABR shouldn't be MC', like... I'm fighting against it because I think it'll result in a loss, not because I just don't like ABR... Sentinel, what did you mean by that?
In post 3203, MaxwellPuckett wrote:In post 3155, Albert B. Rampage wrote:In post 3154, DiamondSentinel wrote:Also @Pirate Mollie: How's that for someone lying about having read? What he said was 100% false. I haven't said I scumread Titus since the first 200 posts.
That's not remotely as bad as pretending to have read something from another game that you haven't. Not saying that's what you did, just parroting the accusation pirate made.
I didn't notice this before, but.. what? This is blatant misdirection, but since all of ABR's moves have been blatant I guess it's not surprising.
ABR subtly acknowledges that itlepip was wrong about DiamondSentinel currently scumreading Titus, but pushes that under the rug in favour of saying the same thing mollie did (and acknowledging this too), in order to turn things back onto DiamondSentinel. Except, he never actually makes the accusation, he just puts it down as a possibility...
And, so, what was the point of this post? ABR takes a factual post and turns it into a dig at Diamond without actually accusing him of anything. This is great stuff, I'm taking notes!
ABR and itlepip as buds, anyone? The misdirection, the chainsaw defense, it's there. This won't be relevant until later probably, but I'm saying it now for posterity.
In post 3025, MaxwellPuckett wrote:
Yosarian: DGB's play hasn't really impressed me, and yeah, I think ZZZX wanting to engage and trying to understand her is more towny than DGB scumreading him for the whole game, but barely mentioning ZZZX beyond those early game reads posts.
I'll take another look at DGB, I already said that.The fact that you're thinking there's only one way to read that situation is weird, actually. I don't know DGB, I've never played with her, why is it suspicious that I find her blunt refusal to engage scummy? You really can't imagine a scenario where I'd find that weird? That's what's weird.
Yosarian, you never responded to this. That you saw DGB's 'i dont engage with scum' post, had one thought in your head about how a person could react, then saw me acting differently, and your instinct was to call that scummy.. that just doesn't follow. Either you actually can't grasp that others would have different opinions on that, or you jumped at the chance to prepare to get onto my wagon for a concrete reason.
Drixx: This is how I find scum. Dressing up a gut read as something other than one is dishonest and therefore scummy, so I'm picking at it to see where it goes. But, Iamtired of repeating myself.
In post 3825, MaxwellPuckett wrote:In post 3241, Rylai and Lina wrote:In post 3016, MaxwellPuckett wrote:Klingon, ABR, are scum
so your suggesting ABR was busying a partner? or only 1 of them is scum ?
~Rylai
I brought up the possibility of it being a bus, but the scumreads formed independently. They don't contradict each other, with ABR's behaviour, though.
In post 3728, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You know what, I'm not gonna claim.
If you vote Sensei MC, he will die, it will revert to Drixx, and I lose the chance to deliver a scum by day 3.
If you vote me for MC, I'll WIFOM my way out of a kill, Sensei might die anyway, and I will get you scum on day 3.
Albert deciding not to claim was towny, and I was going to say as much. Unfortunately...
In post 3759, The Cool Cucumbers wrote:
This wasn't the mass double vote thing right? I figure it wasn't . If it's extra votes or something though you should let us know before someone accidentally hammers.
-Cerb
This is the first sword technique, in the list on the first page. It's a double vote.
In post 3777, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Time for me to claim, I'm the Town Doctor. Dr. Nukasan. I am Bulletproof on Odd Nights, I can protect on Even Nights. My role is to protect MC on even nights (2,4,6) and prevent scum from killing them every night. If I reach a certain location to gain a certain Rune ability, I can protect every night. I'm what stops scum from eliminating the voted MC.
In post 3778, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The reason why Varsoon feels that the MC mechanic is balanced is because half the time I can protect the MC from scum. Good job outing me guys.
Weoutedyou? If your role was to protect MC on even nights, you completely destroyed that utility by claiming this.
In post 3793, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Because town loses its only doctor if I'm not voted MC
In post 3811, itlepip wrote:In post 3808, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I claimed doctor. They can't be serious scumreading me. I'm the only doctor in the game.
Does your role say there are no other docs?
How on earth could you know if you're the only other doctor in the game? Also, doc fishing.
CoolDog is town, I'm pretty sure of it after seeing his posts. The wagon isn't a good one.
MC: Sensei
Rylai and Luna are also town, as is DP and... probably, DiamondSentinel.
Yulfy (Wicked slot, is that the name?) is so scum. Klingon, ABR...
Who wanted Lowkey dead? Can someone quote that case?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Sensei why are you not thinking about how strange it is that DP was scumreading Max on Wednesday last week, and then on Thursday last week, she was townreading him, right when I realized he was scum and started attacking him?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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In post 6327, Albert B. Rampage wrote:DGB vote for Gale.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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In post 6342, wgeurts wrote:Let me finish reading the game before you decide to hammer, I want to be confident in what I choose before any decision is made.
You've been saying this for a very long time. Give us a time window. Apathy will kill this town before you finish reading if it's anything more than by Tuesday night.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Only Shiro and Sensei can realize that the rest of you have no good reads on this game or are scum. None of you are confirmed town.
Gale is fucking obvious scum and we are lynching him in the next 16 hours and you're going to have to swallow that pill.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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Wow this guy is the most obvious fucking scum. Remember scum have day talk. He's conferring with his buddies trying to buy time. We should probably hammer before he can use any nefarious abilities on us with his buddies. Or he has "confirmed town" in his scum group and thinks they can pull him out of this problem.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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