Get some on your hands. No fear. The only way to get those precious echoes is to lynch and kill.
-Cerb
This particular move is fairly townie. We just came out of a game where we knew someone didn't have a vote, so it wouldn't have been unreasonable for them to simply show they didn't have one, but revealing a unique vote tag to add the vote is good for town to know of. Thinking about it though, I guess it's not as big a deal as if the owner of the vote weren't outed when they used it since it's public, but scum could have gained a good amount of town cred by pretending to be voteless(since why would scum ever be unable to vote? blah blah).In post 17, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:Because of what happens when we don't pull that out
To demonstrate
VOTE: Hastur and Muriel
Now wait for a VC
-SC
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/P ... the+SpiderIn post 32, Almost50 wrote:I did, but I didn't think much of it. I was trying to figure our what "Spider" does (looked it up on the bloodbourne wiki, but I found no "weapon").In post 29, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Did nobody else notice that there's an extra player in the game?
Sorry, didn't sign.In post 33, Reasonably Irrational wrote:http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/P ... the+SpiderIn post 32, Almost50 wrote:I did, but I didn't think much of it. I was trying to figure our what "Spider" does (looked it up on the bloodbourne wiki, but I found no "weapon").In post 29, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Did nobody else notice that there's an extra player in the game?
Google-fu.
Yo KC, why you going so small? Don't you want to attempt a chalice dungeon worth attempting? ^^
In post 17, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:Because of what happens when we don't pull that out
To demonstrate
VOTE: Hastur and Muriel
Now wait for a VC
-SC
In post 19, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:Our normal vote doesn't work but the Spider vote is a substitute.
-SC
In post 28, Almost50 wrote:I had the intention of voting random(idget) with the reason being it's a "random" vote. Seeing he already had been voted twice though I chickened. I read something in the frequently asked questions that made me second think the whole process of "random voting" and/or even "voting for pressure". the thing I'm referring to is someone with "bolt" could count for 5 votes all by their own. That combined with the game I've just finished (with many of those involved in this game) that had double voting mechanics, vote stealing mechanics and threshold messing mechanics ... *Shrug* I just didn't want to take a chance this early into the game (at least not until I know what I'm doing in the first place).
In post 40, Klingoncelt wrote:I was going to go all out, but this early in the game the Hunting Party may not have the necessary tools to win the bigger challenges. I have no idea what to expect in the Chalice Dungeon, so better safe and wussy than sorry.In post 37, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Yo KC, why you going so small? Don't you want to attempt a chalice dungeon worth attempting? ^^
-Cerb
What's got your knickers in a twist newfriend?
But why? I liked his caution here.
If you're a miller or some such ridiculous negative town utility you should claim. Otherwise Ima shutup about it and so should we all, I guessIn post 47, Ranger wrote:Arg!
In a normal game, I'd be claiming, but Varsoon specifically warned us against doing that. :/
Just...keep it in mind.
Disappointed.In post 55, Ranger wrote:{D&D}
{Mixed 6}
{Sensei, Nahdia, Zulfy}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Almost50}
{Shinobi}
One.
I'd like you, Shinobi, to compare and contrast your own vote with that of Nahdia. Why is yours okay, while her vote is "weak, and generic, IE the type of thing mafia would come up with."?In post 51, Shinobi wrote:This vote seems sort of unprompted to me. Why?In post 46, Nahdia wrote:VOTE: Almost50In post 28, Almost50 wrote:I had the intention of voting random(idget) with the reason being it's a "random" vote. Seeing he already had been voted twice though I chickened. I read something in the frequently asked questions that made me second think the whole process of "random voting" and/or even "voting for pressure". the thing I'm referring to is someone with "bolt" could count for 5 votes all by their own. That combined with the game I've just finished (with many of those involved in this game) that had double voting mechanics, vote stealing mechanics and threshold messing mechanics ... *Shrug* I just didn't want to take a chance this early into the game (at least not until I know what I'm doing in the first place).
I don't like this post - it's generic albeit useless advice made to appear helpful when it isn't.In post 47, Ranger wrote:Arg!
In a normal game, I'd be claiming, but Varsoon specifically warned us against doing that. :/
Just...keep it in mind.
VOTE: ranger
Why not? I mean, it clearly meant *something* to you. You should be able to articulate that thing.In post 61, Nahdia wrote:i'm not going to pour my heart into analysis of literally A50's first post. it was fake sounded so i placed a vote there. step OFF, lamer.
Why not? I mean, it clearly meant *something* to you. You should be able to articulate that thing.In post 61, Nahdia wrote:i'm not going to pour my heart into analysis of literally A50's first post. it was fake sounded so i placed a vote there. step OFF, lamer.
EBWOP.In post 64, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Why not? I mean, it clearly meant *something* to you. You should be able to articulate that thing.In post 61, Nahdia wrote:i'm not going to pour my heart into analysis of literally A50's first post. it was fake sounded so i placed a vote there. step OFF, lamer.
I'm TORN on it. It does seem a bit contrived, but if you take it at face value, it's reasonably townie.
-Cerb
Actual, Shinobi, now that I look at Rangers post again...yours is kinda shit. I think she said volumes with that post. Unless you're trying to say she's advising us all to not claim, which ISN'T what she's doing. What she's doing is telling us to, based on any previous experiences we may have had with her play, consider the sort of things she has claimed D1 in the past, and keep that in mind with regards to her slot. It's a not so subtle hint as to a NU role or asceticism or something along those lines, without any outright claim as such. Is it town? I don't know.In post 67, Shinobi wrote:I felt like mine was adequately explained - Ranger said some generic nothings and had an opening that I would think mafia would make, since the whole point of being mafia is to look helpful when you aren't.In post 62, Reasonably Irrational wrote:I'd like you, Shinobi, to compare and contrast your own vote with that of Nahdia. Why is yours okay, while her vote is "weak, and generic, IE the type of thing mafia would come up with."?In post 51, Shinobi wrote:This vote seems sort of unprompted to me. Why?In post 46, Nahdia wrote:VOTE: Almost50In post 28, Almost50 wrote:I had the intention of voting random(idget) with the reason being it's a "random" vote. Seeing he already had been voted twice though I chickened. I read something in the frequently asked questions that made me second think the whole process of "random voting" and/or even "voting for pressure". the thing I'm referring to is someone with "bolt" could count for 5 votes all by their own. That combined with the game I've just finished (with many of those involved in this game) that had double voting mechanics, vote stealing mechanics and threshold messing mechanics ... *Shrug* I just didn't want to take a chance this early into the game (at least not until I know what I'm doing in the first place).
I don't like this post - it's generic albeit useless advice made to appear helpful when it isn't.In post 47, Ranger wrote:Arg!
In a normal game, I'd be claiming, but Varsoon specifically warned us against doing that. :/
Just...keep it in mind.
VOTE: ranger
-Cerb
Nahdia just said "almost's post looks fake and overly paranoid" which is just a bunch of buzzwords and doesn't really explain anything.
Do you agree or disagree with my assessment?
I don't understand why you think it's suspicious in any way. There's nothing particularly suspicious about claiming/hinting at negative utility of some sort. It would be standard to outright claim it, the mod themselves noted that outright claiming may be detrimental, so they're not...but she still wants town to have SOME idea that her slot is potentially negative in some way. So she does so, but doesn't tell us exactly how.In post 81, Shinobi wrote:I've played two games with her and she claimed super-bulletproof (and was a super-bulletproof) in one of them.In post 72, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Actual, Shinobi, now that I look at Rangers post again...yours is kinda shit. I think she said volumes with that post. Unless you're trying to say she's advising us all to not claim, which ISN'T what she's doing. What she's doing is telling us to, based on any previous experiences we may have had with her play, consider the sort of things she has claimed D1 in the past, and keep that in mind with regards to her slot. It's a not so subtle hint as to a NU role or asceticism or something along those lines, without any outright claim as such. Is it town? I don't know.In post 67, Shinobi wrote:I felt like mine was adequately explained - Ranger said some generic nothings and had an opening that I would think mafia would make, since the whole point of being mafia is to look helpful when you aren't.In post 62, Reasonably Irrational wrote:I'd like you, Shinobi, to compare and contrast your own vote with that of Nahdia. Why is yours okay, while her vote is "weak, and generic, IE the type of thing mafia would come up with."?In post 51, Shinobi wrote:This vote seems sort of unprompted to me. Why?In post 46, Nahdia wrote:VOTE: Almost50In post 28, Almost50 wrote:I had the intention of voting random(idget) with the reason being it's a "random" vote. Seeing he already had been voted twice though I chickened. I read something in the frequently asked questions that made me second think the whole process of "random voting" and/or even "voting for pressure". the thing I'm referring to is someone with "bolt" could count for 5 votes all by their own. That combined with the game I've just finished (with many of those involved in this game) that had double voting mechanics, vote stealing mechanics and threshold messing mechanics ... *Shrug* I just didn't want to take a chance this early into the game (at least not until I know what I'm doing in the first place).
I don't like this post - it's generic albeit useless advice made to appear helpful when it isn't.In post 47, Ranger wrote:Arg!
In a normal game, I'd be claiming, but Varsoon specifically warned us against doing that. :/
Just...keep it in mind.
VOTE: ranger
-Cerb
Nahdia just said "almost's post looks fake and overly paranoid" which is just a bunch of buzzwords and doesn't really explain anything.
Do you agree or disagree with my assessment?
I do know that it's not the empty air you're making it out to be though.
-Cerb
She didn't claim anything in the other one I don't think.
I don't really understand why you think this doesn't make her suspicious. Can you elaborate a bit more for me?
Disappointed that I wasn't already on the list, somewhere near the top...since if you're scum, you already know I'm town, and if you're town, you should know I'm town by now.In post 93, Ranger wrote:Disappointed that I would try?Reasonably Irrational wrote:Disappointed.
{D&D}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia}
{Sensei, Nahdia, Klingoncelt}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Zulfy, Xkfyu}
{Patches, Almost50}
{Shinobi}
Interesting. Three of you so far. Bloodborne doesn't really have "good guys" per se, so a variety of negative slots isn't exactly unlikely, but it's definitely worth noting.In post 97, Xkfyu wrote:Alright, here's something. I too have a negative utility (technically two, but one will likely go away relatively quickly) that would normally warrant a first-post claim, but just like Ranger, I'm also going to forego the claim. As such, I see absolutely nothing about Ranger's post that causes me any concern.In post 89, Reasonably Irrational wrote:pedit: xkfyu, it's your job to come up with the topic, if I knew what I wanted to talk about I would have asked a specific question! I mean, I guess you could comment on this whole little Nahdia/A50/Sensei/Me thing we have going on here.
On the Almost50 stuff, I didn't think there was anything particularly wrong with his posts so far. In fact, they seemed to me to be coming from a well thought out mindset.
And Nahdia seems to be her usual over reactionary self when people question her. I've played a few recent games with her, and that seems to be pretty standard for her. Though, she was town in all of those games, so I can't say that she doesn't do that as scum as well.
You mean the Chalice Dungeons? He already said they'd be flavorful, right? Any thoughts to share? From in hydra, preferably.In post 100, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Can you add some flavor to each quest?In post 35, Varsoon wrote:If you have any questions about the flavor of Bloodborne, just ask me, either privately or in this thread.
For many of you who are not familiar with the flavor, it should not be a mystery or huge investigation to figure out something you want to know.
Knowing the flavor may help players in this game, but only marginally.
OMG Senseis here! I literally got up from bed just to get to my computer to type to you!In post 110, Sensei wrote:One of the safest entrances I think I've ever seen.In post 48, Reasonably Irrational wrote:What's got your knickers in a twist newfriend?
Ah, true, I should have realized you had no posts to go off of on the first list. Alright, acceptable.In post 104, Ranger wrote:Well, you hadn't posted on the first page.Reasonably Irrational wrote:Disappointed that I wasn't already on the list, somewhere near the top...since if you're scum, you already know I'm town, and if you're town, you should know I'm town by now.
For what it's worth, you're vaguely near the top now, but I'll need more from Elbirn to be sure, not to mention, my read on you always gets better with time so the more I see from either head, really, the more sure I'll be.
Didn't notice. The higher level is the more accurate one.Why is nahdia on the list twice, in three separate lists you've made?
Well in that case, move Patches to the bottom tier. It's a scum ability.So...it seems likely you're looking at a proxy slot of some sort, like Bright in Suikoden.
I was evaluating it as a player (it was a scummy post), but if it's a proxy slot, auto-scum.
So...this is basically an exact replica of what Shinobi did last game. Having points that he says are in the wrong, but doing nothing about it.Shinobi wrote:I don't really think my case on Ranger is good anymore but I'm struggling to find an alternative.
Ah, makes sense.In post 124, Sensei wrote:Elbirn's.In post 112, Reasonably Irrational wrote:OMG Senseis here! I literally got up from bed just to get to my computer to type to you!In post 110, Sensei wrote:One of the safest entrances I think I've ever seen.In post 48, Reasonably Irrational wrote:What's got your knickers in a twist newfriend?
Jumping into the game and townreading a majority of the people who have posted so far and then proceeding to rvs is safe. There's no chance to make any "enemies" when you do that.
It's supplemented by the fact that half the reads I couldn't quite see where he was coming from either.
Do you have a lot of experience with A50? If so, do you believe he, as scum, wouldn't both with an elaborate explanation for something as likely to be questioned as his post was? If not, why does the elaborate thought process suggest he's town?In post 140, Xkfyu wrote:Somehow, I knew you were gonna ask me about that post, just as soon as I posted it...In post 134, Sensei wrote:How so?In post 97, Xkfyu wrote:On the Almost50 stuff, I didn't think there was anything particularly wrong with his posts so far. In fact, they seemed to me to be coming from a well thought out mindset.
And why does that have an affect on your read of him?
Anyways, I was talking specifically about the post where he was being paranoid about putting a random vote down. His thought process, while almost certainly ill-founded, was elaborate, and I think that suggests that he's town.
In post 20, Zulfy wrote:aw man aw man aw man
I wouldn't mind hearing mixed6's response to your question, Sensei, but...In post 43, Zulfy wrote:Elbirn you're so great
Yes. That is her standard style. Wholly NAI.In post 145, Mixed6 wrote:On another note, it might have been lost in my longish post, but does Ranger typically post tiers like she has been?
-Zorblag R`Lyeh
So, I just reread the beginning of his ISO in SF, then remembered when I saw the post numbers that he was a replacement. There was a massive difference between his entry into the game there and his content here though, but I don't think the two can be compared at this stage. There we were 3k posts into the game, and he started pushing ABR very quickly. Here, he's just taking up space and not attempting to accomplish anything. Is that scummy? Not really. It's not pro-town though. *shrug*In post 147, Sensei wrote:You remember how he was in Saga right?In post 143, Reasonably Irrational wrote:That's the Zulfy ISO.
Realized I never addressed the second half of this.In post 137, Mixed6 wrote:@Reasonably Irrational, for Daenerys and Dragons, again, there's a lot to gain by voting in this game in particular. It's possible scum could try to gambit around that and hope for a game ending swoop, but it seems like that would put a lot of faith in everyone buying into the only town couldn't vote argument. I don't think it's that strong a move. In the end we agree conclusion-wise so I'm not interested in wasting thread space beyond this arguing about the theory that gets us there. That doesn't help town.
For the tentative opening it could be either, but I had experience in mind in particular. Someone in an overly complex setting compared their previous experiences is more likely to drop into analysis paralysis territory. Bad experiences with a similar setting could have a potentially similar effect though.
-Zorblag R`Lyeh
Bruh this is what I do, I gave you people #gold in the form of a solid townbloc and then tried to wagon out of rvsIn post 124, Sensei wrote:Elbirn's.In post 112, Reasonably Irrational wrote:OMG Senseis here! I literally got up from bed just to get to my computer to type to you!In post 110, Sensei wrote:One of the safest entrances I think I've ever seen.In post 48, Reasonably Irrational wrote:What's got your knickers in a twist newfriend?
Jumping into the game and townreading a majority of the people who have posted so far and then proceeding to rvs is safe. There's no chance to make any "enemies" when you do that.
It's supplemented by the fact that half the reads I couldn't quite see where he was coming from either.
What the fuck does this even MEANIn post 133, Fire Assassin wrote:It reads as a player trying to peg someone as scum more than actually scumhunt.In post 131, Xkfyu wrote:What's wrong with it?In post 129, Fire Assassin wrote:This does not leave an assassin with much confidence.In post 127, Reasonably Irrational wrote:*snip*
So at this point you've got d&d as top town and patches as bottom scum but I was under the impression at this stage in the game that patches was d&d's spider vote and I thought everyone thought this and I was thinking like how did you not think that but this leads to nothing I give upIn post 164, Ranger wrote:Even when you're confirmed town.Almost50 wrote:Ranger ALWAYS scum reads me at the start of the game
{D&D}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, RyLina, Sensei}
{Klingoncelt, Almost50, Hastur}
{Fire Assassin, Toogeloo, Zulfy, Xkfyu}
{Shadow_step}
{Patches, Shinobi}
Seems so yes. His dialogue seems a bit varsoony. I wonder if the "master" merely dictates actions and varsoon does the talking. Either way it's probably not an alt account that the player has access to, it'd be that the master pm's a message and action to varsoon and he goes from there.In post 201, Randomnamechange wrote:So whoever is controlling patches is kind of like a town crier with an anonymous vote? (not at varsoon, at other players)
Ah. You should probably go reread my D1 in a billion other games as well. The problem wgeurts had with me was the prevalence of statements I was making, because generally asking questions is what I do. ^^ How do you hunt without asking questions? Without seeking clarification, and locking people down in position and making them explain their thought process, so you can identify when that process is contrived or contradicts previously established positions?In post 287, Nahdia wrote:we can be friends i just feel like you in particular cerb feel a bit different this time around. also asking lots of questions really early also rubs me the wrong way. i might go reread your d1 in soccer spirits or something because that kind of play always strikes me as scum trying to look like they're hunting. imo statements > questions.
Please don't. I really don't look forward to a repeat of SF D1.In post 294, Mixed6 wrote:After discussing with Zorblag, the wise and level-headed professor, I'm announcing our candidacy for master of the hunt Night 2.
We're going to find scum.
We're going to get powers.
We're going to win.
HUNTMASTER VOTE: Mixed6
Nahdia, I did say for you to look at a bunch more games than just that one.In post 295, Nahdia wrote:Ceeeeeeeeerrrbb I'm reading ur ISO from soccer spirits and I do not see any walls of questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE: Reasonably Irrational
ok actually as i typed this out i found one but it's way smaller!!! there's also this post which kinda highlights my point from u here in SS where ugive opinionsabout everyone who is low content thus far in SS rather than just putting a bit of attention on them and asking them stuff. it's like "hello friend yes i am town yes i am faciliating discussion that is pro-town hello yes i am pro-town yes i am town"
That particular comment was Zorblag, not ABR. Is it still irrelevant? How does announcing to the whole game that you have a nightmare help you with figuring out the mechanics? Wouldn't you simply want to invite people who you believe are town into it(Unless, of course, you do bad stuff to the people in it, in which case you want to invite scum)?In post 289, Zulfy wrote:The person defending me.In post 285, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Zulfy: Regarding your 235, do you mean the individual defending the person who is voting you is scummy, or the individual who is defending YOU from the person who is voting you is scummy? Why? Is there anything else about Mixed6's play that is worthy of commentary? Why did you reveal/suggest that you have a nightmare to invite individuals to?
Scum does that. Cuz scum can have accurate reads.
Town's usually the one to make an advance on a piece of nothingness like a self-vote in RVS. Scum can be dumb and wagon it or say "ehh that doesn't look scummy I don't think"
Gut tells me they'd do the latter.
No one really did how I wanted them to, abr came closest to doing so in quote I quoted.
Realized later it's ABR, all of it irrelevant.
My attempt at contribution was useless. Will try again.
Regarding my nightmare, just trying to figure out mechanics and therefore setup, dialectically.
So zulfy, I included you in my town pile intro-post, quoting your self vote as reason for that. You responded to that merely with "Elbirn I love you"In post 289, Zulfy wrote:The person defending me.In post 285, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Zulfy: Regarding your 235, do you mean the individual defending the person who is voting you is scummy, or the individual who is defending YOU from the person who is voting you is scummy? Why? Is there anything else about Mixed6's play that is worthy of commentary? Why did you reveal/suggest that you have a nightmare to invite individuals to?
Scum does that. Cuz scum can have accurate reads.
Town's usually the one to make an advance on a piece of nothingness like a self-vote in RVS. Scum can be dumb and wagon it or say "ehh that doesn't look scummy I don't think"
Gut tells me they'd do the latter.
No one really did how I wanted them to, abr came closest to doing so in quote I quoted.
Realized later it's ABR, all of it irrelevant.
My attempt at contribution was useless. Will try again
Yup
In post 305, Mixed6 wrote:No Cerb. Zulfy was confirmed town and decided to piss his role away to troll the town as he was upset with me, and Titus was also upset with me and decided to tunnel on me for the entire game.
Rampage
Yeah, the zulfy thing was very significant as well. And upon reflection, I realized that my slot had to remove 5-10 unknown slots in order to win, while town had to remove 6...so the idea of considering the loss unfair because Varsoon didn't express the victory condition the way he intended is kinda crappy. ^^In post 306, Mixed6 wrote:After Zulfy pulled that move I mentally checked out of the game so I don't really count whatever happened after. I still consider it a town victory due to the wording of my role pm as well.
Anyway, back to this game. We need a leader.
Rampage
Elbirn, homie, it's
This is an interesting position to take. Once D&D demonstrates that they could have hidden their control of that vote all game long, I'd be slightly more inclined to vote for them, but..In post 309, Mixed6 wrote:Would rather Daenerys and Dragons than you.
In 196 we were referring to a post by Fire Assassin, not D&D. I just want to be certain you're attributing the correct behaviors to the correct slot. In the post in question, which was about D&D, I never expressed any sort of scum read on them, which is why I'm curious how Fire Assassin came to the conclusion that I was using that post to attempt to cast shade on D&D.In post 314, Mixed6 wrote:This is the Troll head speaking, and I do endorse the plan of voting for Mixed6 as Master of the Hunt. This is a solid plan that benefits town. It has a backup, a secondary backup and a tertiary backup for when things go wrong, wronger and wrongest. You should all vote for it.
@Nahdia, it might surprise you to learn that I actually think that you getting a scum read on me is fine. Having said that, I'm astounded at how off I think most of your reads of the game are. I don't mean to offend there, it's just that it's so remarkable! It's not even in a "scum would go with these reads to try to get town lynched," sort of way. If you have trouble scum hunting, what do you plan to do to improve, or do you?
@Zulfy, as Reasonably Irrational pointed out, it wasn't Albert B. Rampage that commenting on your self-vote. In so far as anyone was in this hydra it was me. And curiously enough you don't seem to have realized who was defending you in the exchange in which it happened. Given that you spent the effort to set up something you thought was a trap, would you care to look back again and see if you can see who it might actually have caught? It sort of doesn't matter, as that catch isn't particularly better than the one you thought you had and then threw out, but I'd think you'd be interested in seeing what your efforts actually caused to happen.
@Reasonably Irrational, for what it's worth, my opinion of Daenerys and Dragons has improved. The initial reveal is a null tell, but behavior since then looks good to me. On a related note, I don't know if you ever got your answer from them that you raised in Post 196 about the difference between scum hunting and pegging scum, but I think context makes it pretty clear that they found the action to be an attempt to get a scum accusation to stick (peg someone as scum,) rather than actually determine someone's alignment (scum hunting.) They're engaged in the game and looking at interesting places, getting people to talk. Even if they're not town, they're actively helping town at this time. It's the same sort of thing that they didn't like my phrasing of when I applied it to you. They'd be a terrible lynch today unless something related to their power changes it, and at this time I'd be comfortable having them lead an early hunt if Mixed6 wasn't. They're not actually my top choice, but they're way up there.
-Zorblag R`Lyeh
Hm. I'm not certain I agree, but alright.In post 316, Xkfyu wrote:I only have one game of experience with him, but it was more of a generalization, instead of something specific about Almost.In post 141, Reasonably Irrational wrote:Do you have a lot of experience with A50? If so, do you believe he, as scum, wouldn't both with an elaborate explanation for something as likely to be questioned as his post was? If not, why does the elaborate thought process suggest he's town?In post 140, Xkfyu wrote:Somehow, I knew you were gonna ask me about that post, just as soon as I posted it...In post 134, Sensei wrote:How so?In post 97, Xkfyu wrote:On the Almost50 stuff, I didn't think there was anything particularly wrong with his posts so far. In fact, they seemed to me to be coming from a well thought out mindset.
And why does that have an affect on your read of him?
Anyways, I was talking specifically about the post where he was being paranoid about putting a random vote down. His thought process, while almost certainly ill-founded, was elaborate, and I think that suggests that he's town.
-Cerb
The reason an elaborate thought process suggest he's town is because those kinds of thought processes come from town more often than scum. Same goes with elaborate gambits, and the like.
ILU Nahdia. You go learn things!In post 318, Nahdia wrote:what, are you gonna apply to be my tutor or something? now hiring, pal.In post 314, Mixed6 wrote:@Nahdia, it might surprise you to learn that I actually think that you getting a scum read on me is fine. Having said that, I'm astounded at how off I think most of your reads of the game are. I don't mean to offend there, it's just that it's so remarkable! It's not even in a "scum would go with these reads to try to get town lynched," sort of way. If you have trouble scum hunting, what do you plan to do to improve, or do you?
Zulfy I swear if you don't shoot straight with me here I will bamboozle you to heck and back. Swear on me mum.In post 315, Zulfy wrote:Thats not even what I said.In post 307, Reasonably Irrational wrote:So zulfy, I included you in my town pile intro-post, quoting your self vote as reason for that. You responded to that merely with "Elbirn I love you"
Why aren't I scum, if the above is your thought process?
-Elbirn
I just thought you should know.
I don't think inactivity factors into your reads, generally, but it was something I noticed when I looked at your ISO and your latest read list. The main point of the question was...what are the post based reasons for your reads on each of those slots I listed?In post 356, Ranger wrote:Why is it that people keep on assuming that inactivity factors into my scumreads?Reasonably Irrational wrote:Ranger: Let's talk about your bottom 5, excluding Patches. Toogeloo, Zulfy, Bogre, Shadow_step, Shinobi. It seems to me like everyone you have there, except for Shinobi, has been largely absent this game. What are you basing these reads off of, or if this purely a (perhaps unintentional) instance of connecting inactivity to scum play?
I mean, sure, I suppose if it continues over a long enough period of time it would, but no, it's always for post-based reasoning.This game has a lot of parallels to Killer Instinct, Shinobi's play among them. It's a dead-ringer.Regarding Shinobi, you never explained what you meant in your 104, or rather, never elaborated. The idea that you're suggesting makes sense as cause to suspect someone, but I'd like to know more about the situation you're comparing his current play to.
{D&D, RyLina, Gee Willikers}
{Mixed 6, Reasonably Irrational, Nahdia, Sensei}
{Klingoncelt, Almost50, Hastur, Xkfyu}
{Fire Assassin, randomidget, PeregrineV, Zulfy}
{Toogeloo}
{Shadow_step, Bogre}
{Patches, Shinobi}
See this? This is what I was referring to in my earlier post directed at you, ABR. You're going to flood the thread with posts designed solely to push people into voting for you, and it's NOT a protown thing to do.In post 364, Mixed6 wrote:Klingon, are you endorsing us for master hunter?In post 362, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 205, Shadow_step wrote:Question to anyone who has played with Zulfy before.
Does he tend to self vote a lot ?
I've seen him do it before.
Rampage
Ditto. I think we already established that.In post 368, Mixed6 wrote:Cerb if we're the master hunter, we're taking you hunting too buddy.
Rampage
Less noise, more signal, please? It's not pro-town because you're just spamming it(or rather, I know your behavior in similar circumstances, and you'll just spam it more as the game goes on).In post 369, Mixed6 wrote:It is absolutely pro-town, because it is what I do as town. This is my game.In post 367, Reasonably Irrational wrote:See this? This is what I was referring to in my earlier post directed at you, ABR. You're going to flood the thread with posts designed solely to push people into voting for you, and it's NOT a protown thing to do.
Rampage
Guys. Please vote somewhere else. If you want to vote for an inactive, vote for one that actually has a chance of being scum, rather than just potentially being a scum mouthpiece.In post 351, Varsoon wrote:"Whatever happens...
You may think it all a mere bad dream."
-Blood MinisterVOTECOUNT 1.05
Almost50 (3):Sensei, Mixed6, Randomidget
Patches the Spider (3):Rylai and Lina, Zulfy, Toogeloo
Toogeloo (2):Fire Assassin, Klingoncelt
Shinobi (2):Ranger, [SPIDER]
Zulfy (1):Shinobi
randomidget (1):Reasonably Irrational
Hastur and Muriel (1):Bogre
Xkfyu (1):Shadow_Step
Reasonably Irrational (1):Nahdia
Rylai and Lina (1):Patches the Spider
Not Voting (6):Yume, Hastur and Muriel, PeregrineV, Almost50, Gee Willikers, Xkfyu
With 22 Alive, it takes 12 to Lynch.: (expired on 2016-06-06 23:00:00)
Deadline
The Master of the Hunt isKlingoncelt
The Hunter's Party isMixed6, Shinobi, and Almost50
The Chosen Chalice Ritual isPthumeru Chalice - Depth 1.
Available Chalice Dungeons:Spoiler:
Spoiler: HUNTMASTER VOTE
They want you to vote them as Master of the Hunt for tomorrow.In post 374, Klingoncelt wrote:You know that you're on my team already, right?In post 294, Mixed6 wrote:After discussing with Zorblag, the wise and level-headed professor, I'm announcing our candidacy for master of the hunt Night 2.
We're going to find scum.
We're going to get powers.
We're going to win.
HUNTMASTER VOTE: Mixed6
I likely won't be including you in the hunt, barring some insane obvtowning on your part over the course of the rest of this day, and I won't compromise my desire to include those I view as the most likely to be town just to garner your favor.In post 386, Rylai and Lina wrote:Unvote
Why people sheeped my test vote? Patches is worst case scenario a survivor (at least flavour wise)
Ok here is the deal folks #and by folks I mean RI and mixed)
I like both of you for town so which one of you can guarantee me a spot in the hunt? I wanna kill some beasts.
One a side note I think this is the first time I am townreading Klingoncelt.
@Abr
Well I mean yiu did kinda speed lynch me even though I was obv town
~Lina
Umm, I directed a question at you noting a particular contradiction already. Perhaps you could address that? Other than that and the weird thing with A50 earlier where he performed an act he believed couldn't be reversed super early in the day in spite of urging caution, not many contradictory actions occurring yet.In post 389, Gee Willikers wrote:Allo' cerb, although you don't tend to how many reads right now do you have any possible suspicions or stuff that doesn't currently make sense?
~wgeurts
Wgeurts....still not addressing my question. What happened between your readslist and your vote for Mixed6 as Master of the Hunt to either 1) change your read on me or 2) change your read on them, such that you "trust"(which implies, townread) them more than me?In post 393, Gee Willikers wrote:I'm not sure what you think is going on with Randomiget however if it is what I suspect it is I doubt that's likely. Random has the tendency to change reads without explaining them instantly, I've played with him before. It's nothing to do with us at least. Also Cerb, consider me to be DGB in this head of the hydra this game.
I currently have some suspicions on Shinobi and almost50 however I dont have enough information to feel okay with going after them just yet. I'll make a post asking them about some stuff once I have PC access.
The ammont of players lurking or posting fluff is also too high for my liking. We need more people to start posting soon. If that doesn't happen I would be happy to help pressure a few of them into producing content.
Ah, got it. For what it's worth, there are two strong mechanical reasons for that in this game, unlike other games where I didn't push for that position.In post 397, Rylai and Lina wrote:this
~Rylai
What? I didn't say that?In post 400, Rylai and Lina wrote:and why do you want to take the people you think are more scummy with you in hunt ?
~Rylai
Like,I literally said the opposite of what you thought I said.In post 387, Reasonably Irrational wrote:<snip>
I likely won't be including you in the hunt, barring some insane obvtowning on your part over the course of the rest of this day, and I won't compromise my desire to include those I view as themost likely to be townjust to garner your favor.
-Cerb
Meh, one of these days man. It's hard enough keeping on top of the game and playing properly without trying to be clever about things.In post 403, Gee Willikers wrote:We literally spoke about you possibly needing to be more subtle and less blunt in Skype last time we played together in Saga frontier. You should really take my advice for that Cerb
Although my views on things aren't always correct. (There's a reason my town win rate is still lsss than 50% right now )
~wgeurts