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dab

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hi roster

now i cant scumread you lol

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I would like to request a prod on Chennisden

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A50 can you actually push a wagon that will go through instead of a vanity wagon

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hi NMSA it's been a while.

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Since I'm at L-1, do you want a claim?

Eww

He wasn't at L-1

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i don't think nmsa is scum here.

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A50 VOTED SOMEONE ELSE.

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So nice reading Omachao

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Omochao your play is not towny

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But I really see why you want to kill NMSA

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Intent

Titus please claim

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Actually unintent

VOTE: omochao

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im probs gonna switch my vote to mastina but im waiting in vain for more ppl to show up and comment on literally anything

He is scum.

arent you so unique

Progressions seem convenient.

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TWO GARBO WAGONS ARE HAPPENING WITH BLATANT INFO GRABS FROM RUNNING PEOPLE UP JUST FOR LOLSIES AND THIS GAME IS FUCKING VACANT AS HELL

Using this as an excuse to do things such as defending mastina then hammering when it is convenient?

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Spoiler: omachao

the wagon on mastina is literally so aids that the only reason im not SHOCKED that it still exists is because mastina is like trying her hardest to make it happen

Seems like he wants to take credit for defending town mastina which is so scummy because the way he approaches the slot is as if he knows mastina is town

VOTE: not my spam account
flavor has been hedging on whether or not mastina is scum the whole game
titus has been making arguments for why mastina is scum that she doesnt even believe
nero is basically on crack
idk elbirn
nmsa is either lynchbait or trolling scum

"Seems like he wants to take credit for defending town mastina which is so scummy because the way he approaches the slot is as if he knows mastina is town" applies again

hmmmmmmmmm. VOTE: mastina I don't like that opening at all.

this is dumb and the laziest hop ive literally ever seen in my life

see above

While NMSA should not have hopped like this, omachao's reaction is just as bad

Ho boy I'm gonna end up lurking the heck out of this game.

hmmmmmmmmm. VOTE: mastina I don't like that opening at all.

Could you elaborate?

A lot of the arguments here are based on meta, and I haven't played with most of these people, so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. With that said, opening by claiming a role like that seems really fishy, especially if you've done it in the past as scum. None of mastina's posts since then have sounded at all towny, in fact most have sounded extraordinarily scummy.

this is not an elaboration at all. we know just from your first post that you didn't like the claim. all the posts after the claim are scummy too, but we don't actually get to know about that at all

I'll give you this.

Montosh (75%) and probably LUV (60%) are town. I really want to keep scumreading mastina (60%) for the claim, but some stuff has seemed kinda townie since. Still leaving my vote there though. If I had to guess, I'd say (20%) FL is town, and (30%) Clem is town, (17%) scum.

a bunch of percentages that don't have any basis in reality, and mastina has now made towny posts?? aka she probably angry posted a couple of times and he's not sure that he can just stay on this wagon like a barnacle. how would your scumread stay at a 60% if theyve been posting towny recently + you were only scumreading them for ostensibly one post that you couldnt even elaborate on.

Do you know why percentages are used? It's not because they plugged it into a magic formula or even that these are in any way "legit" -- THE REASON HE USES PERCENTAGES IS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A RELATIVE SENSE OF HIS CONFIDENCE IN HIS READS. I am pretty sure (69%) that Omachao has no idea why percentages are used and why they can be used.

I legit have no idea what's going on anymore. Pls help me lynch mastina cause at this point I'm not confident in anything else.

and then a final attempt at even looking like he gives a fuck he just says "please lynch mastina" as if he's actually contributing anything to this lynch happening. WHAT?

He did contribute to mastina's lynch (though that wasn't towny).

While the way it is worded is scummy there is town mindset that you are refusing to acknowledge

ill ignore flavors mastina posts cause we both know he doesnt really give a flying fuck about mastinas alignment.

If this was true it would tell you something about FL's alignment. There is no reason to ignore this.

@titus just get off the wagon and vote literally anywhere else
you went from mastina is town but not for claim -> mastina is town -> mastina is only town if she townreads me -> idk -> siding with townreads -> gun to head mastina is scum because of how she's acting about her role
you keep on pulling meta out of your ass to justify changing your mind on a wagon that you dont even show that much conviction for to begin with
so if i come out saying that you dont believe in what youre saying, double down on the wagon then
i dont see anything from your slot that makes it seem like you actually think mastina is scum

convenient way to avoid dealing with the point at hand.

because mastina is like trying her hardest to make it happen

you do realize that Mastina talks about getting lynched as scum (for strategy) all the time. If you believed Mastina is intentionally trying to get herself lynched shouldn't this be like a red flage?

i literally dont care
aren't you the one always complaining about apathy lynches?
this is an apathy lynch
i think you might be the only one actually scumreading this slot
do you think mastina is actively trying to have everyone inactively lynch her?
what has she done that make you think thats in the realm of possibility here?

Nero was looking too far into this so I'll give you this

This is not a TR on NMSA in anyway; this is just showing that the way Omachao colours these interactions is very scummy

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@ LUV

I will place intent again and ask for claim

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Nero you aren't fooling anyone

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Why are you posting

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I really don't think Titus is a bad choice I just think that Omachao is a better choice

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chill with the intent before she appears in thread lol

This is also not a great post

The purpose of intent is to prevent a hammer "before she appears in thread lol"

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okay

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I agree that it is a message to the rest of the town but it is usually directed at lynchee

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chenn town b/c mod wifom? I don't care what roster says,

loud goon seems plenty possible.

I agree and don't want to let NMSA slip because of a good claim

There is no reason the claim doesn't come from scum especially since it got everyone off of him

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in all honesty

i should approach omachao's slot in better faith

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so scum is

1. chennisden
4. Almost50
9. NotMySpamAccount*


assuming that El gets shot.


thats just kinda how I feel, but I could be wrong so vote whomever you guys want.

and if El is not shot?

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@Omochao - For the record I don't think NMSA is town or has contributed to town

Something about your approach to it feels off

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Your transition from NMSA to Titus feels like wagoning to wagon

It feels like you're trying to lynch Titus just so you don't get lynched

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And that's not necessarily scummy as I know the feeling all too well

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actually no

VOTE: titus

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when i was in the position omachao is in now the counterwagon ended up being on scum

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I've been in this position recently and sympathize

And I don't want it to end the same way it did last time

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alright

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A50 was begging to eat the bullet so no surprise there

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We're a day before MyLo we should consider mass claim

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hahahah no

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You are literally grasping at straws NMSA

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Do you think this sort of gambit works on Titus? Titus isn't some newb player who signed up for their first game

Also, the votecount was literally ten posts above.

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I am not going to lose this game because I let NMSA live to LyLo and you shouldn't allow this to happen either.

VOTE: NMSA

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This means NMSA goes either today or tomorrow assuming we don't catch scum

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EBWOP

NMSA goes today.

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WE DON'T NEED TO MASSCLAIM BECAUSE NMSA IS SCUM

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Alright, I'm a little miffed because I'm pretty sure we would've had a perfect scum win

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But if it's compromised there's no way around it

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Also as for scum PT release away

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I know CMM slot was pretty scummy but I don't think it ever went before Omochao or NMSA

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Nice, Titus.

We had a feeling you were going for that but at that point we won so it wouldn't hurt too much.

I'm probably gonna count this as a win in my books because town was imploding

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GG everyone

I'd like to play with you all again

BTW does anyone know how the game was compromised?

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My gambit does it if Nero and Rooster is the major move.

I would have included Elbrin next but unfortunately I couldn't clear him.

In the scum PT you'll see I considered killing Nero

Also FL forgot his rolecop N2 haha

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RAS literally got all of his reads.

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I don't even count my stats so idk

Just let me be salty for like 2 minutes about our lined up mislynches

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Yeah I don’t see why this game ended considering RAS replaced out.

Safety. RAS had too good reads probably. Once he got banned, the concern is town check his reads.

Yeah, he got FL and me right for absolutely no reason.

He called me scum for no reason and no investigation when I was sick. That's how I knew because no one has that strong a meta tell on me. The mods were already aware by the time I reported him. I legit forgot RAS was here though.

Same, I forgot RAS was here

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Holy shit and RAS was trashtalking roster

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Does anyone find this ironic

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I think I hard counter roster because we've always been on opposing alignments and mine has always won

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she thinks I’m a terrible town player or smth

Yeah, she wasn't wrong about that part.

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I think her ridiculousness leans more towards her being scum here because of how unnatural the whole thing was, but it's whatever for now. I should be able to read FL much more easily regardless. I'm content with moving on from it for now.

VOTE: Creature.

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I LUV you all please play with me again

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Mechanic was very fun, a bit townsided because of too many innos but we were able to work around that. Also I think you're forgetting we had a fake inno on FL because he found that harry potter game.

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role

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Also scumbutts could pick their medium so I could either annoy roster for the rest of the game or essentially keep access to scum PT

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I LUV you all please play with me again

Always, if you forgive me for being a scumfuck.

but I'M the scumfuck

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https://forums.darklordpotter.net/threa ... fia.33371/

This would've "cleared" Flavor the same way your other ICs got cleared.

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So this means I won a townsided Boon game with a cheating RAS. Am I a God yet?

Were you scum

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Titus we can't all walk on the moon. Some of us need sunlogic.

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Factional abilities:
[N][A] - Assassinate - You may select one member of the mafia to commit a kill to any non-mafia player each night.
[N][A] - Spiritual Guidance - Once per game, you may empower your nightkill to also force your target to be channeled by a medium of your choice.
[P] - Spiteful Spirit - When you become a Restless Spirit, you may choose any medium you wish.

Creature:
[P] - Malevolent Siren - When you die by any means, you will immediately become a Restless Spirit. You will be given a medium among the surviving players and will gain a neighborhood with them. This neighborhood will be active until your medium's death. Your medium will also have their role disabled and become a Town Vanilla, as well as losing their Spirit ability. Additionally, after the following phase, your medium will be announced in the thread.

FL:
[N][A] - Inspector - You may target one player each night. At the end of the night, you will learn what their role is called.

and I'm a vanilla scumfuck

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Nero post role PM and the crew will go decipher it

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Also I think if scum gets a town medium then the townie should just be added to the scum PT

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Because optimal play is to copy and paste

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"Noting that you may 'preload' your medium target at any time, it will be randomized the default way if you die while there is no target specified here"

also we forgot to do this, creature/FL

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this is honestly very sad and very sad

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How do you know I'm not secretly a RAS alt.

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Nah not creature that's just hindsight

Definitely not before 2 mislynches

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So the moral of the story is the next guy to call creature scum is cheating

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oh shit the game ended?

Check the ban announcements and check RAS's reads

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Alignment: Town
Role: Vanilla-Spirit Cop

[D][A] - Majority Rules - You have a single vote that you may use at any time.
[N][A] - Otherworldly Detection - Once per night, you may target a player. You will get a result back in the form of, 'Your target has an unaltered Spirit ability.' or 'Your target has an altered Spirit ability.' This functions similarly to a vanilla cop, except specifically to the Restless Spirit ability.
[P] - Restless Spirit - When you die by any means, you will immediately become a Restless Spirit. You will be given a medium among the surviving players and will gain a neighborhood with them. This neighborhood will be active until your medium's death.

Neapolitan of sorts.

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Well played town and nice gambit, Titus. Would've loved to see how it played out. Idk about D1 but I think we had to work for the lynch D2

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Yeah we can put A50 on scum, FL just overthought it (and forgot his role cop )

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Yeah Nero

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Omachao what were you

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A50 goes on town BY DEFAULT which means if we don't mess around with him

FL asked about it in the scum PT

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Also can the other scumfucks agree to release the PT

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Yeah it does Montosh

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This setup is quite WIFOMy

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It''s like an old-school "don't rely on clears, rely on reads" lesson

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Also to undo your paranoia that I'm not a RAS alt:

I haven't trashtalked anyone this game (I think)

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Hm I can see how town would've won. I wish it played out, I don't think any of us remembered or cared about RAS's reads anymore

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won by prs

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I mean, I think I had a good shot of getting you lynched in a 1v1, NMSA

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Also stopping fakehammers is not a reliable scumtell for me

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OK, Creature is still the only one not committed with a vote, while he is also complaining about (imaginary) people not voting is quite alarming.

CMM totally avoiding/ignoring me is a scum claim in a nutshell.

I have yet to identify their third, but I think these two will do for now. Everybody please vote in Creature/CMM, but do not put either @L-1 yet.

you died for a reason

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yeah

jingle can you prove ur not a ras alt

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The game has been compromised.

I will put the other stuff in the thread later today, but the game is officially considered over.

Flavor Leaf, chennisden, and Creature were the mafia team.

I'm sorry, everybody.

i was 3/3 and

i wasn't even RAS

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Can you prove ur not RAS

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You have an R, an A, and an S in your name RAdiantcowbellS

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I enjoyed the setup. I am a bit bitter about Titus & Nero for the mastina lynch, and I don't bloody know why Titus got lynched. If only people could concentrate on the game and forget about previous bad experiences with each other...

Anyway, thanks Ank for modding. Well played FL (as always). I got 2 scums on D1 but my everlasting weakness is to get the town to follow my reads. I need to learn how to push a lynch on a suspect.

Pedit: LOL @Chenn/@Jingle

Because as scum we had to push the stupid lynch. So the good mislynches are left.

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There needs to be more of an incentive for living people to listen to dead people

The dead people if you've noticed were the ones who had the closest scumteam solves (lol a50)