Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

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Hey

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SS or you

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You know me so well

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What if Pine is also a limited doc

Was it Titus going off about a potential scum doc

"Also a limited doc", are you assuming Ali is not a full doc?

E can only protect eir masons once right

Yeah, but I thought the limitation was only about the masons, not the rest of the playerlist

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I mean, yeah, you can speculate about Pine having the same power, but what would you do with that kind of info?

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Also, Ali being a doc with a limitation could be related to Pine having fruit with powers to give with drawbacks

P-edit: didn't mean to shut you down, I was trying to understand your reasoning

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You would if you knew why I'm townreading you

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Friendship <3

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You know how I roll wooper. Power of love is the only way to get good reads

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Pffft, no, I was trying to be funny after being a dickhead

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Hahahaha I'm sorry, I was stressed out because you were scumreading me and I felt like shit 'cause I don't know how to play as a PR

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If I were your cat I would enjoy your singing too

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But I've always pictured you as a young Billy Joel

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Oh wait you're from the land down under.

Rick Springfield then

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(っ˘з(˘⌣˘ )

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The only person I’m convinced even remotely wants to win is the wooper

I want to win too. And I'm starting to think that Fire wants to lose this because he's town. Makes sense to you given Fire's personality?

I just watched the Joker movie, maybe it's that

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The only person I’m convinced even remotely wants to win is the wooper

I want to win too. And I'm starting to think that Fire wants to lose this because he's town. Makes sense to you given Fire's personality?

I just watched the Joker movie, maybe it's that

Dunnstral wants to kill Fire and given he also wanted to kill Fire in guns and roses, I feel like trusting Dunn here is a play

I don't trust myself on Fire and Maria so I won't endorse anything about them.

But I agree with the axolotl, I think we could priorize another lynch today rather than those two.

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@Dann hey dude, two things:

I think I've been pretty consistent moving the game forward to my prefered lynches, not because I'm not explicit enough means I'm not doing it. I want Krazy lynched. If I haven't voted yet is because we're in MyLo and we recently had a conftown replace in that's calling Krazy his biggest townread on his list. It's common sense and cordiality to reevaluate at this point.

Second, about my townread on you which you have bitched about a couple of times, why is simplicity a bad thing? Why do I need more complex reasons to have a read on you? Yes, I think you're town because I wouldn't expect scum!you try to post what you posted back in the appreciation page. I've read all of your posts and nothing has pinged me to the other direction, so why bothering? You're antagonizing Krazy and he's my biggest scumread, that's another reason if you really need one. But you're basically criticizing the way I approach this game as a whole: ping players I know as town as soon as possible to get a better read on players I do not know that much. Alchemist is a good example of this: since I was scum with him in Starcraft II I have locked a read on him based on his first early posts and I have been wrong once, and I was wrong that one time because Alch realized what he had to do, he had to play around me for a while and I wasn't used to that.

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@wooper I don't see how you get to like my posting in one page and dislike it in the next one, townread me already dude, or at least read in between lines and realize why I'm townreading you and realize I wouldn't townread you for what I'm implying if I were scum. It's all in this dayphase, and only you would get it. We're both town, solve the game with me.

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Krazy, PP, Ico, Maria, Fire.

What you think

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Maybe
I need to think abt some stuff that I think it's kinda ott paranoid/detrimental for me to talk about right now

let me sleep on the issue in my brain and get back to you tomorrow

I think that solve has like, 3+ scum in it, I think. main one I disagree on is Ico who I'm starting to seriously think is town.

Don't sweat it!

Yeh I knew you would talk about Ico, but I'm literally out of options if I'm right about Gamma and you. He's the most PoE read I have ever had in mafia history

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HURT: Krazy

PP might theoretically be a safer lynch? But that doesn’t progress the game and then I think we lynch Krazy anyway so

I’ll vote krazy after sleeping on this game since I have permission and I really don’t see myself voting elsewhere this dayphase

I feel like the gamestate is finally moving in a positive direction though so I’d like this phase to go for a couple more days at least

Oh Dann since you're so eager of me making a better read on you: this is the only post I've seen from you that made me lift an eyebrow. Saying that PP is a safer lynch seems too calculated for a town pushing a scumread
on Krazy point of view.

If PP is town, you could be trying to put the idea of lynching him as an option.
If PP is scum, seems like a "in case PP is lynched I must say this for credit".

If you were town I wouldn't expect a post like this, but even with this in mind I think you're town. Big deal, I don't get your point, you're still town.

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Yeah sure, be my guest!

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Well I was gonna ask about Ico and PP but honestly I think Ico might be worth considering. So I'Lloyd just ask "why PP?" and leave the sentiment that we probably don't need a full solve just yet. The scumteam is still large enough that broad strokes thinking probably works. Now if anyone wishes to counter me there I'm down to hear it.

I was actually going to say the same thing, we should focus in one scum at a time, but it's were my head is right now.

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Huh

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Maria, how have you reevaluated the game since mastina's flip? I'm asking because of your pops argument.

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Chill, I'm trying to follow your progression 'cause you're not in my top of mind.

Leaving you out of my PoE means I'm wrong in one between Dann/Mena.

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Oh it was because of the "oh well that's life" comment, I don't think you're angry but I thought I could frustrate you with the question I made.

If I'm wrong on Dann I would be wrong on Krazy and that would fuck me over. Lets focus on what we agree for now, PP and Fire.

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That's fair

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@SS maybe this will help you

VOTE: Firebringer

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To prevent you endorsing a lynch on me after Fire flips red

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I correctly scumread him in a past game that Gamma moderated. My scumread there was based on "you're not as funny as you usually are"; in here I had a good laugh at the begining of the game so I pinned him as town. That was the core of my townread, I remember it had to do with respect to who was pushing him early game, but it would take me more time to check that.

I haven't changed my mind that much because of his play, rather other people being townier than him.

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Pine Dunnstral is probably shooting Firebringer if you give him vig fruit

I have a big brain idea about the vig fruit. Make Krazy offer for it.

If Krazy refuses, we lynch him.
If he doesn't shoot, we lynch him.
If he shoots he'll die along with whoever he decides to shoot; if he's scum he'll shoot Dunn, if he's town he'll shoot Dann. In both scenarios we get rid of one scum, 'cause Krazy/Dann has one scum for sure.

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Pine would accept too 'cause if town ends with the vig fruit you could doc them and we would get out of MyLo if them shoot scum.

It's a compromise deal that no one will be happy with, but it's the best alternative for both parts

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I’m not exactly the biggest fan of giving scum a gun

Think of this: if scum gets only their factional kill, they'll shoot Dunn and he'll die. If however they have two shots, they'll have to choose another town that, if we're lucky, you will save and confirm as town. It would be a WIFOM game of "shoot SS risking Ali healing him and taking us outside of MyLo" or "shoot other town risking another conftown and taking us out of MyLo". Scum! Krazy's best shot would be SS since if he don't shoot, we lynch him, 'cause risking another conftown would be gamechanging

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Dunn exists and Ali can't protect him

Ooooh so giving Dunn the gun is a fine idea, didn't think of that

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I don't think Pine would agree with that, that's my problem

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Ah, Ali, you're thinking about the protection Pine has?

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Pine has no benefit of giving the fruit to Dunn, unless Fire is town

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Wait

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UNVOTE: Firebringer

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Oh no, nothing.

VOTE: Firebringer

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I laughed out loud at that post thinking you were replying to wooper

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That was fast

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Hakuna my tatas

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I really like the lion king

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lmao pine still not handing out fruit

Yeah I think you're right about Dunn getting it now.

What about the rolecop, what's the optimal choice?

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I don't know how a rolecop works, doesn't it only tells you the role of the player but not the alignment?

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To be fair, we didn't know about the drawbacks until today

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VOTE: PenguinPower

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Hey guys, I don't know if you have heard about it, but it has been some rough days here in my country. Haven't read anything going on but I hope to be able to help as soon as possible. I have some spare time right now since my workplace released us early because of the protests so I'll catch up.

Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.

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Hey guys, I don't know if you have heard about it, but it has been some rough days here in my country. Haven't read anything going on but I hope to be able to help as soon as possible. I have some spare time right now since my workplace released us early because of the protests so I'll catch up.

Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.

no one I doc'd the worst

And what happened with Dunn?? I thought you were lying about healing your masons once and you would doc him tonight!

@the worst hmu when you can 'cause if you're confirmed town now I'm no longer holding back my read on you. I thought you were an investigative and had an inno on Gamma; that would explain the softing that pops did on you and your wishy washy read on Gamma, and that's why I pulled you and him out of my PoE, and that made me think that you were roleblocked the night I tracked you. Please, confirm or deny this, 'cause I think Gamma is scum if you don't have an inno on him.

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Dunn didn't use the fruit

Well, no one wins, no one lose, that's ok. I thought your masterplan was protecting him, I was so excited

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that made me think that you were roleblocked the night I tracked you.

i don't think that is how trackers work?

What do you mean? If the worst was roleblocked, he couldn't visit anyone

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Dunn didn't use the fruit

Well, no one wins, no one lose, that's ok. I thought your masterplan was protecting him, I was so excited

I am weirded out by your wording because thats the exact same wording I used when I was talking to Pine during the night phase.

Maybe we're mindmelding about the decision you made? I wouldn't use the same wording you used if Pine told me what you said to him

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@Wooper, could you answer my question please? I'm here only for that

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I thought you were trying to be quiet about it as much as possible to get more results; I got the idea that you had an inno on Gamma and that maybe your other results were already dead/you were blocked.

Ok, so it's Ceph, Fire, Gamma and Ico. Final answer

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Nothing ceph has posted over the last few pages makes me forget what Krazy was doing, no. It's a replace in into far late game, of course he will look townie by saying things like "does the scumteam has daychat"; that slot is doomed for me far before he replaced in and I'm not reevaluating at this point.

Ok enough with the dramatism. Yeah I've liked some of his posts but if it's not him it's Maria and I don't think it's Maria so...

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pretty sure Ico doesn't make sense as scum with Fire since I'm pretty sure Ico is being suggested as a mislynch but scum

With how long this have been going on, do you think there's a complete scumteam that makes sense at this point?

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Dann Fire Gamma Ceph

Dann and Ceph makes more sense than Fire and Ico? How

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Like, I think that after PP's lynch, the scumteam is ready to buss FB and FB is ready to throw us some curves before dying. Ico is that curve, I don't remember FB talking about Ico until now.

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Dann Fire Gamma Ceph

Dann and Ceph makes more sense than Fire and Ico? How

every 1v1 Dann and Krazy had honestly reaks theater

I have the feeling that it looks like theater because one of them could've made it look like theater, but I really don't think they're both scum in this

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like Krazy and Dann whenever they danced around each other, were always around to dance around each other. Whenever they danced with each other, it was always them interacting with each other in live time.

This is a good point tho. Still I don't think Dann is scum, not more than Ico who has been playing like PP did

p-edit: you're right, if they're trying to throw curve balls now it's too late

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Don't do it

p-edit: yeah that

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I can’t deal with the pressure of deciding lynches

Tell us your PoE and we will decide unless I'm in your PoE in which case we should never listen Ali guys

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I can’t deal with the pressure of deciding lynches

Tell us your PoE and we will decide unless I'm in your PoE in which case we should never listen Ali guys

ge fire dann ceph

maybe has 2 scum in it.

Make it three

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I can’t deal with the pressure of deciding lynches

Tell us your PoE and we will decide unless I'm in your PoE in which case we should never listen Ali guys

ge fire dann ceph

maybe has 2 scum in it.

Make it three

ceph isn't scum tho

For fucks sake FB

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Ok mena
Give pine ur vote

Not this shit again Ali please, we got two mislynches over this, Pine got two votes at some point in the game even

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Also didn't the rules change and now we got no twilight?? Mena's probably getting shot after getting the info

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Let's just lynch Fire, it feels like Pine pops up anytime we're getting close to a Fire lynch, no more bargains with the confirmed scum. I can get further into this if you want but I'm sure Pine derailed Fire's lynch at least twice.

VOTE: Firebringer

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Doooooooooon't

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Imagine not giving out free fruit

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If Dann was a mislynch, which he is, is he the one mislynch we can afford? Let's keep rolling with the obvscum flips instead of risking the mislynch today, please please please

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If Dann was a mislynch, which he is, is he the one mislynch we can afford? Let's keep rolling with the obvscum flips instead of risking the mislynch today, please please please

^Can't wait to flip this soon

If Dann flips town will you listen to me?

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Pine... I know what you're doing

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Fake slip about me being town in order to create WIFOM around my tracker claim just now that SS is wondering about it

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...and the Visitor is straight up negative utility, designed to provide bait for the Tracker

"Oh whoops I guess I fucked up and Pink Ball is conftown now"

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I don't even know if I should be saying this 'cause this will look coordinated, but if I get lynched it won't be because of Pine's treachery, no sir

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ok but u are town no?

That's not the point, I don't want Pine to mess up with my slot

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jeez you're so worried about how your slot appears and looks like
aren't you like, a tracker?
what are you so hung up about?

Eh, I think you're reading my posts in a wrong way, I'm not worried at all now that I have claimed. I was worried early in this game because being a PR sucks.

As I said, I'm not letting Pine to get away with whatever he tries to do. In this case, it involves me. Don't sweat it

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VOTE: Cephir

If it's between Cephir and Dann, then Cephir. Dann is town for fucks sake, you don't even have to read the game to realize that he's not scum just because there's a much better PoE solve

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am i and wooper the only ones nodding their heads and going "yep yep, thats theater"

If you're right I know I'll never be good enough at this game to recognize that kind of theater 'cause I'm absolutely sure that one of them is town and one of them is scum. And even without that, Fire, Gamma, Ico, even Maria are all better lynches than Dann

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Wait Ali, you said that if Dann flips scum, Ico would be clear?? It wouldn't work the other way around? Let's lynch Ico then

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Awwww c'mon Mena one of the best parts of this game is townreading each other, don't make it look like I''ve been pocketing you

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Oh shit my bad

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Ceph Fire Gamma Ico in that order

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About FB, I'm sure that Pine derailed attention from him at least a couple of times but I don't have time to dig into that 'cause my country is burning down and I have to act like it isn't lol

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Sorry for not delivering but I'm focused on my gf, my job and my safety, in that order

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cause my country is burning down and I have to act like it isn't

what

Haven't heard about what's going on in Chile right now? Things have calmed down a little actually, but it's a hot mess

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My gf makes me happy and helps me to focus better in the other two things; also I'm in no danger so safety is not a big deal, it's more like... In these times I have to be more cautious than usual, that's all

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I mean I’m not worried about you based on today really

What do you mean?

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When did we start talking about your concerns around my slot? You mean because I said "sorry for not delivering"? What I meant with that is that you asked about FB and I can't deliver a backed up answer, all I have is a "trust me I know it happened" but that's not enough

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I think I do, why?

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We have super Mario brothers 2 baybeee

Mena the wine offer is pretty good but Ali is referencing dunkey, you'll have to step up

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But wagoning Fire, that's my jam. Like, red is not a creative colour after all

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Wine and some bomb-ass cheese

You sure know how to woo me, mr.

VOTE: Firebringer

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You can be part of this too Fire I cordially invite you

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Why not both

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I’ve gotten to the point where I’m not gonna be mislynched as town which is actually pretty solid going

Also nearly got a lynch on PP like 2 days ago

Again

You’ve done

What?

are we measuring dicks because im not really interested.

I am

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I am

does Kirby have a dick?

I mean... I meant you guys measuring your dicks, not me

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Ok I'm not being helpful I'll go to sleep sorry for interupting actual content

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Prodge, probably got some time tonight to read

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VOTE: Firebringer

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its probably "Pine can only give fruit to scum once" and he gave the JK fruit to PP

Fire got the fruit at the same time with PP right? Must be that Pine can't give both fruits to scum the same day, so Mena is cleared now.

Thanks for the info Pine

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But wagoning Fire, that's my jam. Like, red is not a creative colour after all

@Mena, did you see this when you were talking about me and Fire?

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its probably "Pine can only give fruit to scum once" and he gave the JK fruit to PP

Fire got the fruit at the same time with PP right? Must be that Pine can't give both fruits to scum the same day, so Mena is cleared now.

Thanks for the info Pine

I’ve never given Menalque fruit.

I know, I wanted to see your reaction. I think that you answering spews town!Mena

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Oh shit what a coincidence

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Sorry guys didn't mean to quickhammer, it's all Dann's fault I think

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Wait who was the fourth scum member if it's not me and the duck?

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@Wooper were you a VT for real?

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just in the offchance we have a venge/vig

it's clearly {ceph,dann,pb,whoever} lmfao
don't get wifomed

What the fuck are you talking about, Dann and me are both town, get your head out of your ass

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The Scumteam of Pine, Dannflor, Lady Lambdadelta, Pink Floof, Iconeum, Dannflor, Penguin Power, Dannflor, Cephrir, and Dannflor has won!

Omfg scumsided setup Dann had to get lynched 4 times

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she said she was coming over to watch movies

She actually didn't, she avoided the phrasing of saying she was "coming over" which would have been so easy to say inconspicuously and so obvious in retrospect...

Like, come on. The hider was the only thing even approaching investigative power we had.

I was a tracker tho

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What were your roles/factional powers?

jailkeeper + visitor

And the commuter

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I mostly just feel really sad

Gonna take a lil break from here I think

I would hate myself if I'm part of that sadness 'cause you are fucking great Mena, and it's a bless playing with you, even if sometimes is against you

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Ank dying on N1 and killing Formerfish in the right time before he started shooting all of us. I think those two things were relevant for us setupwise. Other than that, I think the synergies we had as a scumteam made this game really fun to play even when there were times I was a fucking mess irl.

Thank you all!

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Stop being an asshole, warmpup.

im just speaking truth.

You aren't. We got out of MyLo and Gamma got the Dannflor/Krazy(Ceph)/PinkBall trifecta, which no one was able to do during the entire game 'cause we were fucking around with each other. When Gamma said that the day before this it was one of the most exciting parts of this entire game 'cause it felt like we would get caught, and our team strongly relied on that.

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<3 maria

I feel like the majority of things I did this game were almost protown

I still don't understand how your slot endgamed after I posted this masterpiece

He was a working boy
Came here just to play
Now he's hit the big time
In this large themed game.
And if he could only hear me
This is what I'd say.

Honey pie, this one's for you dear Krazy
You are scum but I'm lazy
So won't you please self vote.

Oh honey pie, my position is tragic
Come and show me the logic
Why I shouldn't vote you.

You became a legend of this mafia site
And now the thought of lynching you
Makes me feel oh so right.

Oh honey pie, you are driving me frantic
The dead thread is romantic
So that's where you belong.

Will the wind that blew his votes
Across the sea
Kindly send them sailing back to him?

Honey pie, this one's for you dear Krazy
You are scum but I'm lazy
So won't you please self vote.

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Games are shitpostier now.

Sorry