Mini Normal 2119 [game over]

[Alisae]

vote count 1.20

Looker (5)

: Chemist1422, wilky, emps, AaronFrost, Datisi

Chemist1422 (3)

: Iconeum, GuiltyLion, bji

wilky (2)

: bob3141, Looker

bob3141 (1)

: Menalque

not voting: Pine, Tchill13

with 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-02-19 08:00:00)


mod notes: quack

[Iconeum]

Are we still waiting for more people to show up?

okay so I know this isn't technically an entrance but this is a really bad one even so

because the actual entrance is just asking simply answered mechanical questions so it doesn't count

oh good my slot's already voting there

proud of you cj/bugspray whoever voted

this is pure survivalism at play here, and it reads really really bad to me

why are we not lynching bugs slot? Just because chem repped in?

[Datisi]

I will say things when the time is right nobody ends the day while I'm gone thank you

[GuiltyLion]

page 22 reads:
{Chem, Datisi, GL}
{Mena, Tchill/UP}
{rest}
{wilky, Aaron?}
{Looker}

aaron seemed kinda disengaged in a weird way though I don't remember what exactly gave me that vibe

wilky's scumread on UP felt bad

Chemist - when you finish catching up, I'd like to know whether I'm still one of your strongest townreads since I've been pretty tunneled on your slot for most of the second half of this day phase

[GuiltyLion]

What is the actual case on Looker again? Why is emps voting there?

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: looker

dont like the hopping on bugspray wagon there

We all cool with this being sufficient justification to lynch somebody?

[GuiltyLion]

It would take too much work to drive a new wagon on town, so you're just going to rest on what's already on the votecount, lol. All those pages you've "read" and the only thing you could come up with is "Looker's first post was scummy" lmao

Also like, where is the lie in this post

If Looker is scum, why does he act so abrasive? If Looker is scum, why does he scumread me in the early game when I'm clearly a formidable target to go after and when most of the rest of the game is townreading me?

[Iconeum]

VOTE: looker

dont like the hopping on bugspray wagon there

We all cool with this being sufficient justification to lynch somebody?

chemist justification is barely any better?

[Iconeum]

Are we still waiting for more people to show up?

okay so I know this isn't technically an entrance but this is a really bad one even so

because the actual entrance is just asking simply answered mechanical questions so it doesn't count

[GuiltyLion]

Yah I agree. And I'm townreading wilky still but even he was calling chemist slot scummy but has his vote sitting on Looker. Looker wagon is all flavors of bad and i don't see a good reason to expect him to flip scum

[GuiltyLion]

Also Bob I'm revising my "who is bussing if bugs is scum" answer to Aaron, he barely justified that vote switch and just assumes we're not doing bugslot anymore because ??

Even if the slot is town the way the wagon lost momentum randomly and has now switched suggests that scum don't want that lynch today

[GuiltyLion]

Okay I lied my brain is too fried rn to do a proper reread. If we're not doing bugs!slot today then I think I want this

VOTE: Looker

Like this is exactly how I post as scum when I wanna move my vote but I don't have the energy or time yet to write convincing fake reasoning for why I'm doing it

[Iconeum]

It would take too much work to drive a new wagon on town, so you're just going to rest on what's already on the votecount, lol. All those pages you've "read" and the only thing you could come up with is "Looker's first post was scummy" lmao

looker saw this too

Okay I lied my brain is too fried rn to do a proper reread. If we're not doing bugs!slot today then I think I want this

VOTE: Looker

This is were bugs/chemist wagon got derailed. Aaron doesn't go into the 'why' of why bugs isn't being lynched, just assumes because replacement? Doesn't seem to want to make any statement larger then this. If bugs/chemist is scum, this is +partner equity

... I need GL and Mena's thoughts on this.

In the meantime.

VOTE: Looker

This is the second vote to hop off. Datisi, what do you mean by any of this? I think I made my questions and doubts pretty evident?
Bugs was being lined up. Chemist reps in. All of a sudden ya'll are ok with not pushing that slot anymore?

Because?? Why were you on it in the first place?
Chemist did absolutely nothing to warrant a townread on him. His only major statement on Looker was literally 'wow this opening is so bad, congrats to my predecessor for having a GREAT vote!'

[bob3141]

VOTE: chemist

Why do you agree with bug that looker is scum?

What is your reason for scum reading bugs?

What to you think of the players that have shifted from you to looker?

If looker is scum who do you think are his scum buddies?

What do you think of wilky and arron joining your push on looker. Players who are the next two in your read list from looker?

[Menalque]

Yo I’m kind of here now

I don’t think chem flips scum at this point because there’s we’ve been stalling out in that direction for days and I would expect his partners to be doing something, even if that something was hard bussing, rather than just letting the lynch default there while not even getting credit — the corollary to this and also scummy given the reaction to chem repping in is if chem is scum that scum were on super early (icon, GL, bji) at a glance, and so were gonna get credit without needing to push later

I think that the reaction from bob in particular and also but less so from icon/looker is concerning in that there seems to be a late push to make sure that chem gets flipped which makes me think of scum worried they’re losing their D1 mislynch — which is, let’s not forget, fundamentally a lurker lynch — due to a player repping in who may actually obvtown. Which means that continuing to push the lynch later would look really bad or would mean having to give up on lynching a slot they did a bunch of groundwork on

[Menalque]

I’m gonna be catching up but working on masters applications so I may be a little spotty in my presence here but ping me questions as I go

[Menalque]

@GL from skimming this page are you townreading bob? If so why?

[Menalque]

Pine's going to have to be replaced. How quickly you rush into accusations when not everyone's even playing.
I don't keep up with whatever ratio whatever mod wants to put in whatever game. It's weird that you're exploiting such a simple question.

Spoiler:

Looker (3):

Datisi, Menalque, AaronFrost

UltimatePlank (4):

Iconeum, UltimatePlank, bji, wilky,

Datisi (1):

emps

bji (1):

Looker

ceejayvinoya (1):

GuiltyLion

wilky (1):

bob3141

not voting (2):

ceejayvinoya, Pine
13 alive, 7 to lynch

Opportunism abounds, and I don't trust it.
VOTE: bji

what's with the bji vote here, looker?

why did you never follow this up icon and what exactly is your looker read? adding as I read: you also interact with him the page after where he hasn't answered you or commented on you calling out the him/dats exchange

because you seem to have gone from "he townslipped" to "yeah he doesn't look great here" and asking him to explain stuff back to suggesting that voting him is scummy in the late hours of today

[Iconeum]

I don’t think chem flips scum at this point because there’s we’ve been stalling out in that direction for days

yeah the wagon has been stalling for days

and the moment chemist reps in

the wagon clears and looper wagon grew faster then you could say 'wowzers'

i'm not sure how you townread that exactly

[Menalque]

ngl, that's a pretty scummy entrance bugsy

although I do agree with this, bugs!entrance was worse than anything that ceejay produced

[Iconeum]

Pine's going to have to be replaced. How quickly you rush into accusations when not everyone's even playing.
I don't keep up with whatever ratio whatever mod wants to put in whatever game. It's weird that you're exploiting such a simple question.

Spoiler:

Looker (3):

Datisi, Menalque, AaronFrost

UltimatePlank (4):

Iconeum, UltimatePlank, bji, wilky,

Datisi (1):

emps

bji (1):

Looker

ceejayvinoya (1):

GuiltyLion

wilky (1):

bob3141

not voting (2):

ceejayvinoya, Pine
13 alive, 7 to lynch

Opportunism abounds, and I don't trust it.
VOTE: bji

what's with the bji vote here, looker?

why did you never follow this up icon and what exactly is your looker read? adding as I read: you also interact with him the page after where he hasn't answered you or commented on you calling out the him/dats exchange

because you seem to have gone from "he townslipped" to "yeah he doesn't look great here" and asking him to explain stuff back to suggesting that voting him is scummy in the late hours of today

gonna have to reread to answer this thorougly
i don't really remember this happening and the forum was a mess last week so i wasn't very present

[Menalque]

I don’t think chem flips scum at this point because there’s we’ve been stalling out in that direction for days

yeah the wagon has been stalling for days

and the moment chemist reps in

the wagon clears and looper wagon grew faster then you could say 'wowzers'

i'm not sure how you townread that exactly

I mean I don't want to lynch looker I want to lynch bob, although looker is in my "concerning" pile of people

and this isn't really what I'm saying: I'm saying that the stalling out on chem!slot indicates town I think. the wagon clearing on him is NAI

but I think chemist is a relatively easy read and I don't know why you want to commit to lynching him so hard when he's likely to be readable in a few days and there are other equally scummy slots (again, such as bob, who I'll get to once I finish catch up)

unless you think that chem!slot is miles scummier than anyone else in which case why?

[Menalque]

I don't like your unwillingness to re-evaluate chem!slot based on game state icon, but I'm vining with you pretty hard on page 27

[Menalque]

vibing* goddamnit

[Iconeum]

and this isn't really what I'm saying: I'm saying that the stalling out on chem!slot indicates town I think. the wagon clearing on him is NAI

i disagree on this, I think the stalling out usually indicates a scummy slot where town disagrees on and scum obviously isn't gonna help push

if chem is scum, and scum was on wagon, this was a great time for them to evacuate the buss on hop on looker

ofcourse nothing was stopping them from doing so earlier, i'm not very sure hmmm