SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Covid 19]

Day 6 VC #9

Aristophanes (1): LicketyQuickety (8464)

LicketyQuickety (0):

maxwell (2): OkaPoka (8516), pisskop (8518)

gobbledygook (5) (L-2): Hoctac (8257), Aristophanes (8325), Radical Rat (8450), gobbledygook (8470), Firebringer (8495)

Firebringer (0):

Not Voting (5): davesaz, Nero Cain, clidd, Auro (8425), maxwell (8514)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on June 27, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-06-27 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2:

Please note the prodding rules. You are prodded after 32 hours of inactivity on Tuesday-Friday.

3: I'm still modding this game on mobile as I can't get my computer to connect to the site.
4: maxwell replaces Flavor Leaf.
5: Seeking a replacement for clidd.

[maxwell]

do you understand why people distrust this role claim?
and why it is especially suspect when claimed by flavor?
and how flavor furthermore handled it in a relatively poor fashion overall?

Yes, I understand perfectly well that he claimed in an inconsistent fashion, in part because he was infected during day 4 so it benefitted him to lie about the details of his role. I also get that the little banner under his name makes people afraid of him. I'm no mind reader but that likely helped contribute to him being burned out on mafia. I can point to a recent game I happened to spectate as a reference for his play: micro 939. In that game, he claimed vt early in day 1, then softclaimed cop, then claimed 1-shot vig, then finally on LYLO re-claimed VT. He was a VT that game, and ended up being quicklynched on LYLO for scum to win the game. I can't see it as anything but terrible play, but it's likely he was growing bored with mafia and was fucking around/attempting unconventional strategies to liven things up, and it cost him the game. He likely saw this game headed down the same route and that caused him to grow frustrated. I can relate, I just came back from a hiatus of several years because of a string of bad games that burned me out. I can't really make any excuses for what seems like overall piss poor play because I'm not him, but I'd appreciate it if you'd give me a chance to evaluate the game honestly and play it my way so I can show that I'm town.

[davesaz]

I understand OkaPoka's approach, but it wasn't hard to anticipate the likely answer from the mod.
I haven't asked the question by PM so consider this more theoretical than practical.
In a setup that contains a role that can effectively choose to ride with the current wincon or change wincon, the "playing to wincon" standard applies to the individual's chances/skills/preferences of winning, not the current faction's.
That type of role falls within the range advertised for the setup, whether it actually exists in the setup or not.

[Radical Rat]

This un-culting mechanic really does muddle what is and isn't "playing to win."

In any case, I'm actually inclined to believe Maxwell is currently infected, and that FL was telling the truth about the infection check/one-shot cure thing claimed yesterDay. Simply because that makes more sense with the flavor claim, which I believe to be true.

Finding an infected target and then testing a cure? That sounds like a med student. Willingly staying infected? Not gonna get much studying done that way.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: unvote

You seem complacent to lynching Scum. Why is that?

@MOD Does Cure work before death?

I feel like if the healer cured anyone it was Gobble.

Answered via PM.
~Covid 19

soo, is it me or does LQ have an odd stacne regarding goobles.

They defend it on the one hand, then quickly swap to chainsawing me.

Why do you want to lynch Infected so bad?

[pisskop]

So is gobbles infected or not?

whats your stance, doublespeaker?

[LicketyQuickety]

So is gobbles infected or not?

whats your stance, doublespeaker?

I think it's pretty clear he was Infected. I've never held the position he was OG Scum.

[pisskop]

so who should we lynch?

[Firebringer]

why hasnt gobbles been lynched

[maxwell]

Pardon my ignorance, but we have confirmation of 5 infections, and that lines up with claimed/suspected infected in (pisskop, davesaz, maxwell, gobbledygook, clidd), correct? Do we know if mafia can be infected or not?

[pisskop]

they can not, though they might claim to be.

[LicketyQuickety]

so who should we lynch?

Ari. Who else?

[Aristophanes]

so who should we lynch?

Ari. Who else?

I thought you were asking me for a second.

But I mean, lynch scum, not me.

[LicketyQuickety]

so who should we lynch?

Ari. Who else?

I thought you were asking me for a second.

But I mean, lynch scum, not me.

You're Scum tho.

[pisskop]

VOTE: ari

[Aristophanes]

Right. I forgot.

[pisskop]

I think youd be more active as town.

we all cant be town, and if lick is scum then i think he deserves the win over you. he's doing an effort

[pisskop]

I dont want gobbles any more, and actually kind of, kind of, kind of like flavor slots new player

[maxwell]

they can not, though they might claim to be.

All right, thank you. Still narrows down possibilities greatly, I'll be reading outside the pool of infected claims/suspects to try to get up to speed, as this is a long game and I need to prioritize where I'm looking.

[LicketyQuickety]

I think youd be more active as town.

we all cant be town, and if lick is scum then i think he deserves the win over you. he's doing an effort

Ari's narrative basically goes like this:

"I don't want to play until there are less payers" (proceeds to have horrible reads)
"I am trying now but I am not going to say I am not Scum" (proceeds to make zero pushes at all)

[Aristophanes]

I think youd be more active as town.

we all cant be town, and if lick is scum then i think he deserves the win over you. he's doing an effort

I mean, sure. This checks out.
I feel like I've done far more than I'm getting credits for, but maybe I'm a lil biased. lol

Ari's narrative basically goes like this:

"I don't want to play until there are less payers" (proceeds to have horrible reads)
"I am trying now but I am not going to say I am not Scum" (proceeds to make zero pushes at all)

I've been playing. I've made stances. I'm just not influential.
I've made reads based on talking with people.I haven't deep dove and I probably won't in all honesty.
I am going to say now that I am not scum. I didn't think I had to? But whatevs. I'm not scum, nor am I infected.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Piss

[pisskop]

god youre impossible.

Im literally the most town thing in this game

[pisskop]

literally.

as in the full sense of the word.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Hactoc