Open 780: Chromavalon - GAME OVER

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Galron

[PenguinPower]

That’s L-1 btw...since we’re on a new page.

[Galron]

You quickhammered yesterday because you wanted to move on. What are your reads atm?

Titus was over 12 hours into a prod. I didn't want to wait around. I had the impression everyone was ready to move on.

Anyway, cakez is still a scum read for me. That hasn't changed in degree. I'm wondering about you, but I've got nothing to point to other than a strange feeling, but I think there had to be a busser on the TSE lynch, and that leaves you, candles and battle mage. I still don't think scum would bail on this game, but I could be wrong about that. Hiraki's comment about trusting Kerset seemed townie at the time, but looking at that TSE lynch VC, if there wasn't a busser on the TSE wagon, both scum have to be in {cakez, Hiraki, Kerset}. If there was a busser, that has to be in {Penguin, Battle Mage, Candles}.

The Day 2 lynch:

SirCakez(1) ~ Battle Mage(9)
Galron(2) ~ ManateeDude(14), SirCakez(28)
Titus(5) ~ Kerset(19), Five Candles(15), PenguinPower(20), Hiraki(8), Galron(22)
Hiraki(1) ~ Titus(6)

Gotta think.

pedit: And that's to be expected.

[PenguinPower]

Oh hey. Beetlejuice.

[PenguinPower]

Who do you want to vote most rn?

[Galron]

I'm not sure. It would probably be cakez again.

[PenguinPower]

So why aren’t you?

[Galron]

Like I said, I'm not sure. Are you deaf?

[PenguinPower]

I’m not, not that it would matter in a game of written words. You don’t seem to like taking hard stances though.

[SirCakez]

Galron why are you even SRing me again?

[Galron]

Galron why are you even SRing me again?

Your Hiraki 1v1 for starters. Then the following:

Whatever Scum.

ok hear me out
this actually seems kind of genuine frustration? PP was being kinda rude to TSE and I can see TSE (knowing his personality) ending that argument this way as town.

Don't bully cakez

<3

Because I also think Hiraki is really scummy and there's a wagon there

There no longer is.

Well the alternatives suck
Join me on Hiraki

I don't see how saying the TSE wagon sucks construes a defense of him.

Let's look at the flip side - what sucked about the TSE wagon that didn't suck about the Hiraki wagon?

Currently, the TSE wagon is -

PenguinPower(49), enomis(9), Five Candles(43), Galron(12), ManateeDude(18) and TSE (if this is wrong, it's 12 here and I don't think the change will make a difference)

The Hiraki wagon was -

Hiraki(4) ~ Galron(8), Pink Ball(17), TrueSoulEnergy(18), ManateeDude(10)

So if we dive even deeper, the only two outliers on the TSE wagon are PP, enomis & Five Candles. So what was actually bad about the TSE wagon again? Enomis?

Spoiler: SirCakez quoting himself in 285

Tempted to lynch TSE just for that comment from Hiraki

for not rushing the day? okay

I like the anime guys for scum team

because i don't want to end d1 on page 5

okkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.

still true FYI

Why are you assuming that's what I want to lynch you for? This seems like scum mad for caught for the wrong reasons.

where was all the energy we had in signups smh why dont we discuss setup mechanics to move out of this limbo.

LAMIST

I like the anime guys for scum team

Reaching.

on page 5?

he's way too defensive about pushes on him

and I also SR you for a lack of scumhunting other than TSE, who is the leading wagon

I've responded to all of these points and even PP called you out on the defensiveness one. Giving vague reasons that no one can follow is not helping you figure out what my alignment is (something that I have been suspecting that you are not trying to do with your posts) and is certainly not convincing anyone else to join. Even though I agree with Manatee, as I am about to do so again, I at least understand where he's coming from.

The only reason I'm not hammering right now is that I want more reads FYI. TSE doesn't even seem to care about the votes on him.

does this not look really weird in the context of scum!TSE

Why do you keep bringing this up? I already said why I said it. I thought he was scum then and I wanted to hammer but I also wanted to let the game breathe a little. What if he flips town (unlikely now but in the context of that post)? What are we supposed to do D2 with a 4 page D1? I've experienced it before - it's not pretty. Can you explain how that is unreasonable or are you going to continue to label it as

weird

and pop it up every once in awhile?

I generally agree with 300 to 302. I need to think about that more. It conflicts with my current read of the game but hopefully that is the missing piece of the puzzle that I'm ignoring.

At the end, yes. But, it was the only major counterwagon prior. And, TSE had strong defenders in you and Midari, with Midari contradicting themselves and you not have a good defense.

I'd also like to add that SirCakez's post is

completely

absurd when you piece together that SirCakez didn't even realize he was voting someone else other than me at the time.

Cakez any particular reason you're still voting midari

I thought I was on Hiraki
VOTE: Hiraki

Mobile posting otherwise I'd go into it but I really also don't think I need to

I got my mojo(jojo) back in this game baby

VOTE: midari
Obvious place to go with these flips

And of the people off the TSE wagon (cakez, hiraki, kerset), you have the highest scum equity.

[Kerset]

I am not sure about all of it. Everyone seems place hiraki at the end of lynchlist, when townflips were pointing at him.

[Battle Mage]

Running the numbers, Galron has to be scum. Let's bank this one!

VOTE: Galron

[Auro]

Been having some problems with my desktop, here's the flip:

Galron was

Town

!

Night 3 deadline ends in (expired on 2020-06-26 19:45:00)!

[Auro]

Kerset

has been killed, and was aligned with the

Town

!

Day 4 Starts.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-07-10 21:00:00)

[Auro]

Votecount 4.1

Not Voting (5): Hiraki, SirCakez, Battle Mage, PenguinPower, Five Candles

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Day 4 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-10 21:00:00)

Mod Notes

[SirCakez]

I'm pretty much ready to lynch BM right now that was one of the scummiest hammers I've ever seen

[PenguinPower]

Agreed tbh

[SirCakez]

*crickets*

[Five Candles]

VOTE: Battle Mage

Ahem

. Let's try this again.

[Five Candles]

Ah, that's lylo. I may be a Merlin but I'm no savage.

UNVOTE: Battle Mage

But yeah, come in here and give us some amazing Merlinspew or analysis or you're dead, Battle Mage.

[Five Candles]

Battle Mage + Cakez/Hiraki is my solve. Probably Cakez for the way he tried to call TSE town in that post way back then.

I feel sad that my fellow Mini Theme and Manatee Merlins are both dead and I no longer have anyone to scold me for talking about them.

[SirCakez]

I'm on BM/Hiraki
I figure after BM flips scum tomorrow will be Hiraki/myself 1v1ing

[Battle Mage]

i'll be here tonight

[Battle Mage]

ok I can't quite believe we are in the situation we are in right now. In LyLo, on the brink of defeat, in a game where 3 of us know who the scum are.

As we lose if I die today anyway, and I figure scum will have worked it out anyway, I'm a Merlin and had Thesoulenergy as confirmed scum (who was lynched before I even got here). I've been trying to avoid saying too much to give away who the other Merlins (or indeed myself) were, and likewise, they haven't given much away either which is why we are in a pretty shitty spot in terms of actually lynching scum.

Me claiming doesn't resolve much, as scum could obviously just cc me and win. But Enomis did crumb on Day 1 which is something. I've re-read and think the solve is SirCakez and PenguinPower, but I'm not certain.

In hindsight I should have been more active and artificially posted lots of reads to obfuscate things, but it felt kinda high-effort when my main job was done and I just needed to keep a low profile and try and pick things up from others. So apologies for not playing better.