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Why do you think ranger would get tilted so soon?In post 61, osuka wrote:
page 3 is a little early to get tilted, dont you thinkIn post 54, Black Ranger wrote:1. Your story gives scum a means of coasting through the game all under the guise of "it's all in good fun"!
2. Calling it out prematurely denies information.
3. Calling ME out on not continuing the story means you surely don't care about using this story as a means of finding coasting scum.
VOTE: black ranger
What makes you think ranger is tilted?
Why do you think a townie would never call out that story thing?
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you have only answered one of teh 3 questiosna and that as simply a single quote that containined a single line.In post 76, osuka wrote:In post 74, bob3141 wrote:
Why do you think ranger would get tilted so soon?In post 61, osuka wrote:
page 3 is a little early to get tilted, dont you thinkIn post 54, Black Ranger wrote:1. Your story gives scum a means of coasting through the game all under the guise of "it's all in good fun"!
2. Calling it out prematurely denies information.
3. Calling ME out on not continuing the story means you surely don't care about using this story as a means of finding coasting scum.
VOTE: black ranger
What makes you think ranger is tilted?
Why do you think a townie would never call out that story thing?
VOTE: osuka
is this not enough indication of tilt?In post 52, Black Ranger wrote:
Your story is fucking stupid and the only reason why I didn't give an opinion on it sooner was because it was -EV to do so.In post 45, LuckyLuciano wrote:UNVOTE: Wake. VOTE: BlackRanger. I don't like his last two posts. They scream to me, "Hey, I exist, bye!" Also, he didn't continue the story.
i dont think the story is AI at all and nothing really happens in rvs anyway, sohiscalling out of the story is a much bigger reach than anything ive done this game
Why do you think scum ranger would of got tilted here.
Why do you think this cant be town. AS by voting for him you are saying that town woudl never see that story as reason to vote.-
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In post 81, osuka wrote:
okay, now the game is getting somewhereIn post 78, bob3141 wrote:
you have only answered one of teh 3 questiosna and that as simply a single quote that containined a single line.In post 76, osuka wrote:In post 74, bob3141 wrote:
Why do you think ranger would get tilted so soon?In post 61, osuka wrote:
page 3 is a little early to get tilted, dont you thinkIn post 54, Black Ranger wrote:1. Your story gives scum a means of coasting through the game all under the guise of "it's all in good fun"!
2. Calling it out prematurely denies information.
3. Calling ME out on not continuing the story means you surely don't care about using this story as a means of finding coasting scum.
VOTE: black ranger
What makes you think ranger is tilted?
Why do you think a townie would never call out that story thing?
VOTE: osuka
is this not enough indication of tilt?In post 52, Black Ranger wrote:
Your story is fucking stupid and the only reason why I didn't give an opinion on it sooner was because it was -EV to do so.In post 45, LuckyLuciano wrote:UNVOTE: Wake. VOTE: BlackRanger. I don't like his last two posts. They scream to me, "Hey, I exist, bye!" Also, he didn't continue the story.
i dont think the story is AI at all and nothing really happens in rvs anyway, sohiscalling out of the story is a much bigger reach than anything ive done this game
Why do you think scum ranger would of got tilted here.
Why do you think this cant be town. AS by voting for him you are saying that town woudl never see that story as reason to vote.
questions 1 and 2 are basically the same, with 1 being phrased slightly differently so that I'm actually unable to answer it - how on earth do you expect me to determine someone's reason for getting tilted? That's not to mention the fact that nobody really gets tilted on purpose. I don't know what you were trying to get out of me with that
question 3 is a misrep that you insist on. the initial vote really wasn't based on anything substantial (it was like "hoo wee you're tilted let me see if i can push your buttons further"), given we don't even have 100 posts in this game yet - there _is_ nothing substantial for anyone to base anything off of. that's a pretty disgusting misrep though: how the fuck do you expect me to just sit here and take you saying "you voted the guy in rvs therefore you think none of what he's done comes from town"
to be more specific:
this is fucking disgusting and now I do actually feel comfortable properly pushing a slotIn post 78, bob3141 wrote:Why do you think this cant be town. AS by voting for him you are saying that town woudl never see that story as reason to vote.
VOTE: bob
First of all dont be pathetic. There is never any reason to swear in this forum and doing so just marks you out as immature.
Second answer the questions. Stop tryign to deflect
WHY does a scum ranger get tilted at this point in the game. Dont play dumb, Do you realy think im asking you why ranger would get mad on purpose. Dont be silly.
You said ranger got tilted. You said this means he is scum. You said all your reasoning is due to posts 52.
So again why do you think a scum ranger would get tilted? explain why you think ramger would react emotionally here.
You said ranger got tilted but the explain why this lead you to the conclusion that this means ranger is scum.
Next you will be claiming that cause and effect are the same thing. That why and how are the same thing too.
You claim effect was ranger got tilted.
question one - im asking you as to the cause. AS if you think you have seen a effect you must have also seen its cause.
question2 im askign you the evidance as to you starting premise that ranger is ineffect tilted.
thus one and two is quite clearly me asking you for you explaination on the cause and effect chain. IN two steps.
question 3 is going to your reachy jump in excluding the possibility that ranger could be tilted town if infact tilted. Which you scummly deflect and avoid answering. So agin why do you think if you genuinly beleive ranger got tilted that it couldnt of come from town. AS you voted him thus you must be leanign on him being town.
How i expect you to allot of over the top ate to up teh ante over teh ate you did in your prior posts.
Osuka also appeared in his recent starring role in omgus.
Que the lights, que the cameras here comes a ate performance from no other osuka.-
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so many of my posts have typos
question 3 is going to your reachy jump in excluding the possibility that ranger could be tilted town if infact tilted. Which you scummly deflect and avoid answering. So again why do you think if you genuinly beleive ranger got tilted that it couldnt of come from town. AS you voted him thus you must be leaning on him being scum.
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In post 45, LuckyLuciano wrote:UNVOTE: Wake. VOTE: BlackRanger. I don't like his last two posts. They scream to me, "Hey, I exist, bye!" Also, he didn't continue the story.
Spoiler: Story
how to you compare this to your own actions. As before your vote on black all you had done was
a) a rrvs posts on wake.
b) your vote for ranger in that posts.
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titus whats your role like, its not to borring i hope. As the last time somene got mod confirmed they found it quite borring. And they coped out and largely just coasted until they got repped during the night. Although im sure with your role confirming your alignment we will get good source of active reads as to inform us who could be scum.-
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In post 82, Nahdia wrote:fascinating stuff
Nadia what do you find facinating. Al you have done is made a statement but not mentioned as to what it is related to and what such details imply to you-
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So what do you think of osuka trying to push ranger over his criticism of teh lucky makign to story related postsIn post 77, Umlaut wrote:I was a bit skeptical of the story too (despite contributing to it), and thought it was more likely to distract from scumhunting than to get more people posting, so I can't fault anyone criticizing it. Anyway, I think it's perfect at five sentences now.
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i hope your not makign a mirror. to see.In post 91, Nahdia wrote:im just enjoying the view, friend bob.
I aint no minion. Although i am eating havign banana latter today but will have to see if its ready-
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In post 93, osuka wrote:
to be clear: my language is really none of your concern and i swear fairly regularly in and outside of game. I'm not using anything excessively obscene or directed as an offense against an individual, so if you have a problem with that then it's squarely Your Problem™In post 86, bob3141 wrote:First of all dont be pathetic. There is never any reason to swear in this forum and doing so just marks you out as immature.
Second answer the questions. Stop tryign to deflect
WHY does a scum ranger get tilted at this point in the game. Dont play dumb, Do you realy think im asking you why ranger would get mad on purpose. Dont be silly.
You said ranger got tilted. You said this means he is scum. You said all your reasoning is due to posts 52.
So again why do you think a scum ranger would get tilted? explain why you think ramger would react emotionally here.
You said ranger got tilted but the explain why this lead you to the conclusion that this means ranger is scum.
Next you will be claiming that cause and effect are the same thing. That why and how are the same thing too.
You claim effect was ranger got tilted.
question one - im asking you as to the cause. AS if you think you have seen a effect you must have also seen its cause.
question2 im askign you the evidance as to you starting premise that ranger is ineffect tilted.
thus one and two is quite clearly me asking you for you explaination on the cause and effect chain. IN two steps.
question 3 is going to your reachy jump in excluding the possibility that ranger could be tilted town if infact tilted. Which you scummly deflect and avoid answering. So agin why do you think if you genuinly beleive ranger got tilted that it couldnt of come from town. AS you voted him thus you must be leanign on him being town.
How i expect you to allot of over the top ate to up teh ante over teh ate you did in your prior posts.
Osuka also appeared in his recent starring role in omgus.
Que the lights, que the cameras here comes a ate performance from no other osuka.
secondly: are you being intentionally obtuse? if some of my words are too big for you to interpret, let me know and i can speak in simpler terms. I'm gonna address this dumpster fire of a post in parts:
i did, actually, answer the questions. I have no idea why he would get pissed but it sure seems like he did - and reasons are mostly irrelevant here, anyways, as the whole point of the vote was to piss him off further on the off-chance that he says or does something potentially revealingbob3141 wrote:Second answer the questions. Stop tryign to deflect
i NEVER said that reaction doesn't come from town. In fact, i've quite literally said that i think his initial reaction to the story was nai; why do you keep insisting that i've said something that I never even implied? I'm not sure if you're doubling down on your misrep here or if you actually have trouble with text comprehension.
again see above. the why doesn't matter. i've clarified the intention of the vote and funny enough, Ibob3141 wrote:WHY does a scum ranger get tilted at this point in the game. Dont play dumb, Do you realy think im asking you why ranger would get mad on purpose. Dont be silly.didget a revealing reaction - just not from him.
this might be the most flawed reasoning I've seen in a long, long time. it's hard enough to establish cause and effect when you have givens for both - here i have thebob3141 wrote:question one - im asking you as to the cause. AS if you think you have seen a effect you must have also seen its cause.impressionof an effect (i.e., it sure _looks_ like he got tilted) and literally zero indication as to the cause. Why are you so hung up on this? What doyouhope to get out of this line of questioning?
this line of questioning assumes i think ranger is scum. that is false.bob3141 wrote:So again why do you think a scum ranger would get tilted? explain why you think ramger would react emotionally here.
You said ranger got tilted but the explain why this lead you to the conclusion that this means ranger is scum.
i'm gonna stop replying to this fabricated dogshit until you quote me saying I think he's scum or his post is scummy. this is getting annoying really quickly
please translate this to english and i'll be happy to answerbob3141 wrote:question2 im askign you the evidance as to you starting premise that ranger is ineffect tilted.
again i'll start ignoring this line of questioning until you quote me saying anything that could be remotely, very liberally interpreted as anything resembling what you claim i've been sayingbob3141 wrote:question 3 is going to your reachy jump in excluding the possibility that ranger could be tilted town if infact tilted. Which you scummly deflect and avoid answering. So agin why do you think if you genuinly beleive ranger got tilted that it couldnt of come from town. AS you voted him thus you must be leanign on him being town.
there is no ate here. you've just completely fabricated a load of shit and you expect me to address some very obviously loaded questions ("why do you think x is scum", when I don't think that's the case and have never said anything to imply that)bob3141 wrote:How i expect you to allot of over the top ate to up teh ante over teh ate you did in your prior posts.
Are you done with your temper tantrum. You are cliche. Someone calls you out and you respon with more toxicity. Do you need an ice box?
Are you saying its not my concern that i will not tolerate someone swearing at me or swearing in relation to me. I wounder what cliche you will come out wit next.
Plain and simple dont swear at me or i will call it out for what it is.
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ok then if yoou dont think ranger is scum then why did you vote for him. Do you usualy vote for players that you dont think are scum?
You say the reason was that you wanted to make him mad. But how did you think such a vote would achieve that. And how did you think it could results in something positive for town. When ranger is a player that can tilted as town.
You say cant tell why ranger would get tilted and that you could never see what caused it. If you were town trying to sort ranger wouldnt you be trying to work what could of tilted him as town and scum. INorder to try and sort him. How else would getting him mad help sort him if you dont deliberate on its potential cause.-
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Clearly you think one of me or osuka is scum otherwise. You wouldnt have said worse off thus you think one of us is scum.In post 100, fwogcarf wrote:
NopeIn post 99, Nahdia wrote:why, are you scumreading them both?
But I will find out who came out of that exchange worse off.
As you apear to have all ready ruled out that its tvt
Now i think osuka is scum and osuka is being king of omgus.
But what do you think. There is no sitting on the fence in a mafia game. Unless you want to spend a month sitting awkwardly.-
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question 2 im asking you the evidance as to your starting premise that ranger is ineffect tilted.
it should me quite clear. No need to be so obtuse. I cant beleive you cant work out the sentance due to just one typo
ineffect = in practice, even if not formally acknowledged.
premise= base an argument, theory, or undertaking on.
evidence = the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
starting= cause to happen or begin.
is that better-
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osuka why do you think a town player would not assume that your scum reading a player when you have infact just voted for that player.
So why would you be suprised that player asks you questions based on that premise.
Why dou think such a question would come from scum rather than town player who has found your vote to be reachy-
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i dont realy tollerate toxity along those lines after "Mafia à la Mode! ". I will call it out when i see it.In post 105, Titus wrote:Bob, when did you get so angry and snooty?
Titus i know i make allot of typos normally atleast one a post. Be funny if i ever find a posts with 88 typos. Be funny to see what they would typo out
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And it can be consider if you have a problem with me calling you out is squarely your problem.In post 108, osuka wrote:
what i said is pretty simple so i'll just quote it, in hopes that you'll read it again. maybe at some point it will penetrate your skullIn post 101, bob3141 wrote:Are you done with your temper tantrum. You are cliche. Someone calls you out and you respon with more toxicity. Do you need an ice box?
Are you saying its not my concern that i will not tolerate someone swearing at me or swearing in relation to me. I wounder what cliche you will come out wit next.
Plain and simple dont swear at me or i will call it out for what it is.In post 93, osuka wrote:I'm not using anything excessively obscene or directed as an offense against an individual, so if you have a problem with that then it's squarely Your Problem™-
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In post 109, osuka wrote:
see now we're getting somewhereIn post 101, bob3141 wrote:ok then if yoou dont think ranger is scum then why did you vote for him. Do you usualy vote for players that you dont think are scum?
You say the reason was that you wanted to make him mad. But how did you think such a vote would achieve that. And how did you think it could results in something positive for town. When ranger is a player that can tilted as town.
You say cant tell why ranger would get tilted and that you could never see what caused it. If you were town trying to sort ranger wouldnt you be trying to work what could of tilted him as town and scum. INorder to try and sort him. How else would getting him mad help sort him if you dont deliberate on its potential cause.
i don't think it would result in anything positive/negative for town. I just hoped to get game-advancing content from that slot.
there's really not enough information at this point in the game to properly sort anyone, so i think your point about working with him is kinda moot at this stage
So what your saying is that you believed at the time that you trying to get ranger mad wouldnt bring any benefit to town. As thats what your saying.
You dont need to work with someone to sort them you just have to read them. So what are the different motives or in other words triggers that you think a town or scum ranger would get tilted by luckys 4 posts.
Do you think anyone could get emotional over 4 posts enough to get tilted. Its not like they were they were directed at him with any intention of getting him tilted. Maybe if they were pointed at him there could be potential to trigger an emotional response inorder to read them. Do you think a vote for ranger would of got him emotional. Do you think it would of got you emotional and raging.-
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As i said you couldnt read it past a few typos. Or precisely the missing commaIn post 110, osuka wrote:
other than the fact that those definitions really aren't what the words mean in that sentence, sureIn post 104, bob3141 wrote:question 2 im asking you the evidence, as to your starting premise that ranger is ineffect tilted.
it should me quite clear. No need to be so obtuse. I cant beleive you cant work out the sentance due to just one typo
ineffect = in practice, even if not formally acknowledged.
premise= base an argument, theory, or undertaking on.
evidence = the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
starting= cause to happen or begin.
is that better
tone and content of message sounds pretty annoyed to me, at the very least. he attacked the story idea pretty strongly and kind of out of the blue there
did you or did you not start with a premise or argument that ranger in practice got tilted. That he did not intend to be emontial but in effect was.
In other words a slightly fancy way of putting whats your evidence to back up your conclusion and your vote.-
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well you got emotional.In post 119, osuka wrote:
i dont have a problem with you calling me out, which actually sorta defeats the purpose of you "calling me out" in the first place now that I think about itIn post 116, bob3141 wrote:
And it can be consider if you have a problem with me calling you out is squarely your problem.In post 108, osuka wrote:
what i said is pretty simple so i'll just quote it, in hopes that you'll read it again. maybe at some point it will penetrate your skullIn post 101, bob3141 wrote:Are you done with your temper tantrum. You are cliche. Someone calls you out and you respon with more toxicity. Do you need an ice box?
Are you saying its not my concern that i will not tolerate someone swearing at me or swearing in relation to me. I wounder what cliche you will come out wit next.
Plain and simple dont swear at me or i will call it out for what it is.In post 93, osuka wrote:I'm not using anything excessively obscene or directed as an offense against an individual, so if you have a problem with that then it's squarely Your Problem™
just making it clear that i don't care-
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A point you refused to engage with. Are you suprised a player would push his point again after you refused to engage.In post 111, osuka wrote:
i'm not surprised, i'm just fucking annoyed that i had to rehash that point at least three times before you finally stopped misrepresenting (or misunderstanding?) that aspect of what happenedIn post 106, bob3141 wrote:osuka why do you think a town player would not assume that your scum reading a player when you have infact just voted for that player.
So why would you be suprised that player asks you questions based on that premise.
Why dou think such a question would come from scum rather than town player who has found your vote to be reachy
Point where you said you did not scum read ranger before you got emotional and screamed misrep.
When i said you scum read was reachy. After you voted him.
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And did you not get the clear impression I was pointing out what all the words meant. the ones you failed to plug together and not asking you the question.In post 122, osuka wrote:
did you forget to read the second half of the post you quoted?In post 120, bob3141 wrote:
As i said you couldnt read it past a few typos. Or precisely the missing commaIn post 110, osuka wrote:
other than the fact that those definitions really aren't what the words mean in that sentence, sureIn post 104, bob3141 wrote:question 2 im asking you the evidence, as to your starting premise that ranger is ineffect tilted.
it should me quite clear. No need to be so obtuse. I cant beleive you cant work out the sentance due to just one typo
ineffect = in practice, even if not formally acknowledged.
premise= base an argument, theory, or undertaking on.
evidence = the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
starting= cause to happen or begin.
is that better
tone and content of message sounds pretty annoyed to me, at the very least. he attacked the story idea pretty strongly and kind of out of the blue there
did you or did you not start with a premise or argument that ranger in practice got tilted. That he did not intend to be emontial but in effect was.
In other words a slightly fancy way of putting whats your evidence to back up your conclusion and your vote.
You asked me to clarify the question and i did. You got snarky.
So i broke it down in bitsize chunks for you and you got snarky.
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osuka you did get emontionalIn post 126, osuka wrote:
i didnt get emotional. i just called the misrep out because that's what is was, a fabrication. you made some shit up and then blamed me for dodging a loaded questionIn post 123, bob3141 wrote:
A point you refused to engage with. Are you suprised a player would push his point again after you refused to engage.In post 111, osuka wrote:
i'm not surprised, i'm just fucking annoyed that i had to rehash that point at least three times before you finally stopped misrepresenting (or misunderstanding?) that aspect of what happenedIn post 106, bob3141 wrote:osuka why do you think a town player would not assume that your scum reading a player when you have infact just voted for that player.
So why would you be suprised that player asks you questions based on that premise.
Why dou think such a question would come from scum rather than town player who has found your vote to be reachy
Point where you said you did not scum read ranger before you got emotional and screamed misrep.
When i said you scum read was reachy. After you voted him.
It was only in posts 93 that you stated that you actualy didnt scum read ranger. After i had reasserted my point.
i DID engage - i said it was a misrep. calling it a misrep may or may not imply that the content of the misrep is false, but I also addressed that separately and said it was, in fact, false in 81-
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ok will give you that i never put in any punctuation when i type unless its something important.In post 127, osuka wrote:
it's actually really hard to make out what you're trying to say because truthfully, your posts are very difficult to parse and understand. The punctuation is grotesque and the phrasing is a near violation of the english languageIn post 124, bob3141 wrote:
And did you not get the clear impression I was pointing out what all the words meant. the ones you failed to plug together and not asking you the question.In post 122, osuka wrote:
did you forget to read the second half of the post you quoted?In post 120, bob3141 wrote:
As i said you couldnt read it past a few typos. Or precisely the missing commaIn post 110, osuka wrote:
other than the fact that those definitions really aren't what the words mean in that sentence, sureIn post 104, bob3141 wrote:question 2 im asking you the evidence, as to your starting premise that ranger is ineffect tilted.
it should me quite clear. No need to be so obtuse. I cant beleive you cant work out the sentance due to just one typo
ineffect = in practice, even if not formally acknowledged.
premise= base an argument, theory, or undertaking on.
evidence = the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
starting= cause to happen or begin.
is that better
tone and content of message sounds pretty annoyed to me, at the very least. he attacked the story idea pretty strongly and kind of out of the blue there
did you or did you not start with a premise or argument that ranger in practice got tilted. That he did not intend to be emontial but in effect was.
In other words a slightly fancy way of putting whats your evidence to back up your conclusion and your vote.
You asked me to clarify the question and i did. You got snarky.
So i broke it down in bitsize chunks for you and you got snarky.
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In post 129, Titus wrote:Osaka/Bob, my eyes are glazing over. Can you guys stop talking to each other?
Ive talked to you. Didnt you see my posts to you
From start to finish they might have not had much in the middle. But still i did talk to you.
Do you think some one is trying to do humpty dumty. If there scum maybe they will fall off-
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Are you saying annoyed is not an emotion. One you tried to do ranger. careful or some might hoist you by your own petardIn post 131, osuka wrote:
i really didnt. are you trying to tell me how i felt when writing those? because that might just top the ridiculousness of what this game has been on your part so farIn post 130, bob3141 wrote:
osuka you did get emontionalIn post 126, osuka wrote:
i didnt get emotional. i just called the misrep out because that's what is was, a fabrication. you made some shit up and then blamed me for dodging a loaded questionIn post 123, bob3141 wrote:
A point you refused to engage with. Are you suprised a player would push his point again after you refused to engage.In post 111, osuka wrote:
i'm not surprised, i'm just fucking annoyed that i had to rehash that point at least three times before you finally stopped misrepresenting (or misunderstanding?) that aspect of what happenedIn post 106, bob3141 wrote:osuka why do you think a town player would not assume that your scum reading a player when you have infact just voted for that player.
So why would you be suprised that player asks you questions based on that premise.
Why dou think such a question would come from scum rather than town player who has found your vote to be reachy
Point where you said you did not scum read ranger before you got emotional and screamed misrep.
When i said you scum read was reachy. After you voted him.
It was only in posts 93 that you stated that you actualy didnt scum read ranger. After i had reasserted my point.
i DID engage - i said it was a misrep. calling it a misrep may or may not imply that the content of the misrep is false, but I also addressed that separately and said it was, in fact, false in 81-
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In post 113, fwogcarf wrote:fwogcarf
but i think i got what i wanted.
VOTE: fwogcarf
Have you not got any views on anything else. Why does everythign you could comment on only be about osuka vs bob ?-
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In post 161, Nahdia wrote:so realtalk, did anyone else just like... not read the whole bob/osuka thing? show of hands? o/
sarcasm, my dudeIn post 148, Drew-Sta wrote:Why?
mmmmm why? any reasoning besides stale meta?In post 157, SirCakez wrote:Nahdia seems sort of townie? I haven't played with her in ages so my meta is junk.
oh those posts at that time is certianly worth a little read. I can understand not wanting to read osuka posts as it was mostly nonsenses although informative. People like that are just to easy to mess, was quite fun.
my posts 88 is the start of none bob/oskuka stuff. although in the next 6 posts there is one post to osuka.-
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In post 147, fwogcarf wrote:I'm retracting my scumread on osuka and moving it to bob
will explain later
so what was the bases for your scum read on osuka in first place?
It came and went without you giving it any backing. And has gone as soon as his wagon went away.
And what makes you scum read me now?
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@drew regarding question pointed at post 60. The question was to ask what lucky thought of blacks push. I made no inference on rangers push my self. A question that was intended to dig out luckys reasoning for his scum read of black
A question lucky just answered with fluff question.
I personaly doubt rangers push comes from scum. And do find it a bit suspect that lucky cant come up with reason as to why he thinks rangers push comes from scum-
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@drew regarding question pointed at post 60. The question was to ask what lucky thought of blacks push. I made no inference on rangers push my self. A question that was intended to dig out luckys reasoning for his scum read of black
A question lucky just answered with fluff.
I personaly doubt rangers push comes from scum. And do find it a bit suspect that lucky cant come up with reason as to why he thinks rangers push comes from scum
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what makes you think i was after titus role. As titus role should be clear to all that have the mafiascum normal game wiki page bookmarked.In post 186, fwogcarf wrote:The whole Bob v Osuka thing was instigated by bob and carried over i think 3 pages. Up to 81 I start slightly scumreading Osuka because his goal of the game "finally getting somewhere" is achieved. This is only page 4 when he says this, I find that statement schedule-like (for lack of a better term). He starts pushing bob off of the "why do you think this can't be town" question. I got out of that is Osuka pushing bob off of that ONE question, which is horrible reasoning for a vote.
What pings me about bob is that he wants to know what Titus' role is. Now that would seem really bad in a normal game without confirmed town, but I think it's still unnecessary to ask Titus what her role is when there could be a doctor floating around somewhere (If there is a setup, I haven't seen it). I completely agree that being conftown is exhausting because most of the town will look up to you for decisions and you don't want to screw up.
This prompts me to think theater might be happening because wolves can play against each other to seem like an argument is either TvT or TvS, when in reality it's SvS. Here I don't think that is the case when Osuka is blatantly insulting bob in every single post he makes (including a jab at Nahdia). Bob's moodiness might be a tell for sure, but Osuka's arrogance sort of throws the entire argument off for me.
So both of them are hard null, but the argument is in no way SvS
Is that the fenraiser I know from ToS
So is your claimed scum read on me based on something as flawed and simple as that.
osuka is funny, isnt he. Players like that are always fair game for being hoisted by their own petard-
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In post 190, fwogcarf wrote:
You have chosen to completely disregard the bob v osuka argument and see if you can find supposedly better content. Are you purposefully choosing to distance yourself from the conversation or do you legitimately not have any opinions on it.In post 161, Nahdia wrote:so realtalk, did anyone else just like... not read the whole bob/osuka thing? show of hands? o/
sarcasm, my dudeIn post 148, Drew-Sta wrote:Why?
mmmmm why? any reasoning besides stale meta?In post 157, SirCakez wrote:Nahdia seems sort of townie? I haven't played with her in ages so my meta is junk.
If the latter, why ask the "Show of hands" question?
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In post 203, osuka wrote:
i would love to see you try and elaborate and see what happensIn post 195, bob3141 wrote:osuka is funny, isnt he. Players like that are always fair game for being hoisted by their own petard
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At the moment i think osuka is just idiot town. Thats just to stuck in their own personal tunnel vision/world.In post 209, Fenraiser wrote:bob3141 wrote:In post 203, osuka wrote:
i would love to see you try and elaborate and see what happensIn post 195, bob3141 wrote:osuka is funny, isnt he. Players like that are always fair game for being hoisted by their own petard
what you will start spitting out more ridiculous unprovoked insults.@Osuka + Bob
Are you guys scumreading each other or not?
Its quite clear taht alough osuka is majorly overreacting it does appear to be genuine. The sort of person when challanged tends to be only be able resort to childish insults.
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to be honest what you say here is just stupid.In post 215, osuka wrote:
Do you really think it’s a coincidence that most of bobs stances and thoughts are copied nearly verbatim from someone elseIn post 214, Fenraiser wrote:I'd say you're going bananas in most cases but echos are normal on mountains.
And follows a pattern of simplistic stance that ive come to expect from you.
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In post 226, Umlaut wrote:Only half here today, dealing with RL medical things
VOTE: Bob
Osuka looks a bit better over time and I agree upon consideration that Bob's plagiaristic approach to reads is unnerving.
No real read on the replacements yet.
Fwog wagon is still ???
fwog was fence sitting and realy wasnt trying to make his content outside things X vs Y. See how he was saying he wants to scum read one. Town doesnt do that, well town that inst stupid. Town goes into things think is this tvt , svs or tvs. They dont assume every conflict must be SvT
you even see him trying to twist facts by trying to make out the bob v osuka was instigated by me. When the obvous fact is that i asked osuka question backed up with vote. as his actions were scummy. And osuka had a hissy fit. And when i made simple sentance of dont swear at me it is bit pathetic. A simple sentance to see if his toxicty was manufactured ATE or genuine.
Rather than ignoring it he want in to full blown rage trying to insult me at every turn. That i infact found super hilarious. Wasnt hard to get further reads on him after that point. result
And even now he is trying to claim his scum read was due to me trying to find out what titus role is. When the mod has both confirmed titus alignment and hence role. Every player in the game that inst a newb knows what titus role is. so its opportunistic read
in 147 he says he is moving his scum read to me from osuka. yet in 186 he claism me and osuka is hard null. All he says is it cant be svs. But doesnt look into the prospects of tvt or hard into which way it is if its tvs.
Thats not town sew sawing but scum fence sitting. Trying to avoid having to strongly commit while he holds onto to an idiot town coat tails. Lets the useful idiot do the pushing and thus blame if ever i flip. See how he has no content outside of the osuka v bob. He isnt makign his own push on fresh lines of enquiry-
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In post 230, Titus wrote:
Bob, if you keep calling people stupid and are otherwise demeaning, I will advocate for your lynch. Even if you think people are stupid, calling them stupid does zero for town morale. There are better ways.In post 228, bob3141 wrote:
to be honest what you say here is just stupid.In post 215, osuka wrote:
Do you really think it’s a coincidence that most of bobs stances and thoughts are copied nearly verbatim from someone elseIn post 214, Fenraiser wrote:I'd say you're going bananas in most cases but echos are normal on mountains.
And follows a pattern of simplistic stance that ive come to expect from you.
Thought it would of been clear that i sorted you as stupid town back when i switched my vote from you to fog
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who have i called stupid other than osuka?In post 236, fwogcarf wrote:Bob calling everyone stupid is not going to get anywhere-
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rolefishing the mod confirmed titus role. are you a new to normals and this site?In post 239, fwogcarf wrote:
Your attitude is eventually going to develop into you calling everyone stupid for not following your lead. You're so focused on everyone getting on the same wagon as you that you aren't taking the time to do anything elseIn post 237, bob3141 wrote:
who have i called stupid other than osuka?In post 236, fwogcarf wrote:Bob calling everyone stupid is not going to get anywhere
I'll actually use your own words against you here, and say that you also have no meaningful content outside of the interaction with osuka. Your points regarding my scumread on you are completely invalid. You're doing something that I like to call rolefishing. Rolefishing is self explanatory, but it basically means that you start targetting one or more people and post content regarding what their roles could be.
A townie doesn't scumread anyone after an interaction between X and Y? That's so blown out of porportion. You're saying that every conversation that people have will always result in two townreads, if I'm reading you correctly. I am not insulting you whatsover, rather just criticising your play.
Sometimes you have to think about other things when you're reading through interactions between players other than "They're town" or "They're scum".
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
that the mafiascum wiki thats says whats normal and what isnt. Im talking to our IC.
So then why havnt you called osuka out then. He has been toxic for the last few days. He insults me so are you suprised i dont care about insulting him in light way.-
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how does stingy come into anything . Where i come from stingy means tight with moneyIn post 247, fwogcarf wrote:
Yeah, I'm new. Usually when a confirmed town is revealed it isn't Innocent Child.In post 241, bob3141 wrote:
rolefishing the mod confirmed titus role. are you a new to normals and this site?In post 239, fwogcarf wrote:
Your attitude is eventually going to develop into you calling everyone stupid for not following your lead. You're so focused on everyone getting on the same wagon as you that you aren't taking the time to do anything elseIn post 237, bob3141 wrote:
who have i called stupid other than osuka?In post 236, fwogcarf wrote:Bob calling everyone stupid is not going to get anywhere
I'll actually use your own words against you here, and say that you also have no meaningful content outside of the interaction with osuka. Your points regarding my scumread on you are completely invalid. You're doing something that I like to call rolefishing. Rolefishing is self explanatory, but it basically means that you start targetting one or more people and post content regarding what their roles could be.
A townie doesn't scumread anyone after an interaction between X and Y? That's so blown out of porportion. You're saying that every conversation that people have will always result in two townreads, if I'm reading you correctly. I am not insulting you whatsover, rather just criticising your play.
Sometimes you have to think about other things when you're reading through interactions between players other than "They're town" or "They're scum".
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
that the mafiascum wiki thats says whats normal and what isnt. Im talking to our IC.
So then why havnt you called osuka out then. He has been toxic for the last few days. He insults me so are you suprised i dont care about insulting him in light way.
I'm not calling out osuka for this because he's not as stingy as you are. He is very annoying though
Though on serous note i wasnt being mean calling you new. Simply asking if you were new to normals on this sites. As the roles are all defined. Hence why i linked the wiki.
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In post 306, SirCakez wrote:
why do you think Nahdia scum here Titus? Want to hear your opinion cuz I can't figure her out.In post 304, Titus wrote:
What scores? Why does this prevent you from voting Nahdia?In post 286, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't think a Nahdia wagon would be bad, but i'd like to settle some scores first.
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In post 382, Black Ranger wrote:This is a sort of prodge post so if I get a prod in the next hour I won't exactly be upset by it
Anyone want to act in good faith and ask me something within the next hour so I don't have to read the last few pages and try to give a shit in order to produce content? It would be appreciated. You can just quote drew if you care about what he has to say but I'm writing off this slot as not making it to endgame.
Since you made a prod dodge posts i shall ask you a question that is a prod dodge
What do you think of wake 4 posts. Or more precisely on what he choose to base his last one and not the low number.
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So are you saying some wanting to lynch you and thus end the day is scummy?
I must say so far you have not pinged me like the last game i had with you. That game you were my number one day one town read. This game im certainly not getting that.-
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only copied the common analogy. Should be clear my rread on him swapped when i swapped my vote. His reaction felt although bad. It did feel that it came from the angel you see smoetimes where a player forms a scum read as a reaction to just being scum read. Faling for teh logical fallacy of them knowing they are town and thus think all players that scum read them as being scummy. Rather than just being uninformed.
If any one is scum reading me for that then they realy do have shallow reads. As it doesnt warrant a scum read. Ask you self is it even something that is even alignment indicative. 88 times out of 100 its just a sign the player was being lazy and copping out of doing their own analogy-
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In post 407, SirCakez wrote:
What were you saying then?In post 391, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
No, you're just misrepping what i said.In post 390, SirCakez wrote:"I want to lynch cakez" + "I want to end the day"
Yeah cuz what's the town motivation for it?In post 392, bob3141 wrote:So are you saying some wanting to lynch you and thus end the day is scummy?
I must say so far you have not pinged me like the last game i had with you. That game you were my number one day one town read. This game im certainly not getting that.
Are you saying that town would not be motivated to lynch someone they think is scum?
And that it is not a townie thing to want to try and lynch scum. Really.
As so far, you have not given a single reason as to why the fact that Ranger wants your lynch leads to the conclusion that he is scum. In effect your scum read is nothing more tha omgus Ranger scum reads me thus he is scum.
In fact you have yet to give a any reason as to why you think he is scum. At most i can see you saying his post on pg 2 were bad. But nothing about what you foudn bad about them.
Again what about Rangers scum read of you do you claim to think isnt genuinely held. as even if you are town wouldnt you be trying to figure out if he is town wrongly scum reading you or scum faking a scum read on you-
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i was talking about both but i do think i got bit mixed up when writing the posts. The first half was intented to be about nord and the later about ranger.In post 459, SirCakez wrote:
I assume you mean Norwegian here?In post 455, bob3141 wrote:In post 407, SirCakez wrote:
What were you saying then?In post 391, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
No, you're just misrepping what i said.In post 390, SirCakez wrote:"I want to lynch cakez" + "I want to end the day"
Yeah cuz what's the town motivation for it?In post 392, bob3141 wrote:So are you saying some wanting to lynch you and thus end the day is scummy?
I must say so far you have not pinged me like the last game i had with you. That game you were my number one day one town read. This game im certainly not getting that.
Are you saying that town would not be motivated to lynch someone they think is scum?
And that it is not a townie thing to want to try and lynch scum. Really.
As so far, you have not given a single reason as to why the fact that Ranger wants your lynch leads to the conclusion that he is scum. In effect your scum read is nothing more tha omgus Ranger scum reads me thus he is scum.
In fact you have yet to give a any reason as to why you think he is scum. At most i can see you saying his post on pg 2 were bad. But nothing about what you foudn bad about them.
Again what about Rangers scum read of you do you claim to think isnt genuinely held. as even if you are town wouldnt you be trying to figure out if he is town wrongly scum reading you or scum faking a scum read on you
You're misrepping me reallly bad by saying that I'm SRing Norwegian for trying to lynch me. I'm SRing that because he's trying to end the day early by lynching me when we still have time left.
I have talked about Black Ranger more than just page 2. I find his tone and posts to be very overworked and fake-sounding, this started from that ridiculous over-aggression he had early on.
So you say its not because of the fact that he wants to lynch you but becuase he wants to end it now. ok. But still your really just splitting hairs here as it all still comes down to you pushign a player for wantign your lynch. What real difference does it make if he wants you today or tommorrow. It migth have been half way day one and although i do think thats to early to end the day. I dont see it as valid reason to scum read some alone. As unless you have meta on nord saying that he always waits until the last minute as town. I cant see that alone being enough to back up the validity of your scum read on him. As i would expect that you would have to find something significantly wrong with his scum read towards you. To think the fact that nord is happy to end the day with your lynch rather than wait a few more days to be a significant enough to form a scum read around it. But all i can find is you saying he misrepped one of your posts with no follow up on it. Everythign else you were on the defensive
So what in his read of you is significant enough to warrant such scum read when combined with him being happy to end teh day now with your lynch. What makes you think he isnt town happy he has found scum. As for you to conclude teh time issue means scum. There must be something. and i would of expected you to be pushign him over it.
Barely any more about Black ranger than that one post. Below is teh only other two posts i found a reference to ranger in that you were not either responding too or making fluff post.
"Still SRing Black Ranger. Nahdia asked why? Because his page 1/2 content looked like scum trying to get posts in as "content"" 137
"Black Ranger's posts read really overwrought. like they're trying to make sure everything looks right. I dislike it." 211
So far from this posts here you have only extented you read on him to add over-agressive.
What do you make of his reads? On other players reads of him?
What do you think is his scum motivation for any push or town read he may have pushed?
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Why do you town read him though?In post 483, fwogcarf wrote:Norwegian is town and I don't blame them for wanting to end day early
Hot take of the century
I see in post 387 he appears in your top read section along with osuka and puppy. But before then you mention no stances on him. A few replies and few fluff posts but nothing from you. And nothing since. I might be questioning cake over his scum read that he has clarified to be a weak one. But I myself would never town read nord for wanting to end the day early as its easily NAI. But you mention that fact along side a repeat of your town read for him. A read i can find no progression for.
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The only real progression in your reads seems to be the scum read you have on nadia.
You have bit on the players in middle two brackets and some on osuka.
But none on puppy. The only time ive seen in your iso that you intereacted with that slot is over that story lucky made. Where you were simply adding to it. So no posts that were not simply fluff ( by searching your iso for lucky)
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In post 541, ManateeDude wrote:
whats the correlation there? I dont like the specifics of what hes posting im not saying its inherently bad-In post 539, bob3141 wrote:And manatee what makes you think your posts are better than cakes?
Do you still feel liek cake is exaggerating what nord said considering he has clarified his stance on nord. With his stance being a slight scum read and not strong one.
still think his statement was an exaggeration regardless just bc norwee stated they wanted to lynch cakez doesnt imply what he did regardless of who agreed with cakez.In post 545, ManateeDude wrote:Titus whats the difference between me and wake that you're willing to lynch me and not them
What is your opinion on your own posts?
Your saying cake has been makign bad posts how are you any better. Nearly all your posts have been fluff with no real attempt to scum hunt. And reads you give seem to ahve no depth with you changign them when convenient
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