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to be clear this should read inn keeper and bard should NOT claim eitherIn post 29, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Waiting for Spicer and WLC to post
Priest should not claim until the sinner and or (seducer if claimed) are checked. The Inn keeper and (Bard if they exsist ) prob should claim either.
I am claiming NC Town aligned... if the cop invesigate me I should come up as NC ,if they get anything else I need to be executed-
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uh why lie like this? whats the point?In post 39, Galron wrote:
I can tell you that I voted, but you don't know whether I did, how many times, or who for. My point is we can talk about our votes and even post them, and as brighteningskies pointed out, it may be a good idea to at least talk about them to aid in seeing what coalitions develop, wagons and all that. I think that has utility. But we need to be cautious because the votes out here -- like the polls before and after elections -- aren't the votes that count.In post 38, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:
what does that have to do with anything? I am confusedIn post 36, Galron wrote:
I've voted twice so far. How many times have you voted?In post 25, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:sorry Galron... i dont understand what you asking.
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you sounded like you were pondering. i was coming down firmyl on the side of dont claim until you have all the guilties.In post 66, brighteningskies wrote:
what do you mean? I mean not claiming guilties yet is probably wise yeah?In post 65, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i mean... no one should be claiming guilties yet.-
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unless the clairvoyant is targeting scum right? that seems win-win tho. either we force scum to kill who we want, or we get a guilty anyway.In post 68, Elements wrote:I don't think this helps at all, but I don't think it doesn't help. Especially given we already have a sinner claim.
It's just a moot point rlly.
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I had thought about this, but then surely the wws just kill whoever the clairvoyant targets?thinking about it.... we should maybe decide who the clairvoyaant should investiagate....This way we are able check if that player is corrupt via Innkeeper. If we have a bard then even beter but I think we can win with an inn keeper and clairvoyant, What do you think Alamost?
Unless there's a witch who can stop the kills I don't see how that's particularly helpful-
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stop rolefishing.In post 93, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Are you claiming priest or am i missing something?-
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heres a question: so far i really dont have much idea who other people are balloting. town may have an advantage if we keep it quiet and just vote for who we think is scummiest. on the other hand, this is probably really bad since scum can simply rig the ballot by coordinating. although they may not have numbers to ensure more than half the ballot.-
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why are you now saying elements shouldnt claim when you were pushing so hard for info before?In post 174, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:He Glitz
Please catch up as fast as you can
in the mean times.....we are claiming Corrupt/Non Corrupt. We also are deciding who to ballot
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Italian has to be the sinner ,seducer or a wolf
-if he is the sinner then either him or Skies is lying and we need to execute one of them asap
- If he is the seducer = I would think there was a priest. I can not imagine having two false positive -This seems like it would make the game very scum leaning. Suposing there is atleast 2 scum. If he is the seducer he needs to claim the next post or get balloted
if we have a priest he/she needs to claim so we can confirm we have a sinner and a suducer and who the Sinner is.
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there are five possible corrupt roles: three are scum, the other two are sinner and seducer. neither of them has non-standard winconsIn post 178, ItalianoVD wrote:@Almost50: A lot of what has been said up to this point is Greek to me so I didn’t say too much about it. I said I was corrupt because I am. I figured I’d play up to my alignment. You‘re the one that is assuming what my faction is. And why did you highlight the s in conditions?
I caught the interaction with Almost50 and Elements and that’s why I said what I said about. Don’t understand the correlation between me and Elements that people are trying to frame. I was saying I think he’s town because of the trolling. Someone explain it to me again and if you guys want me on the ballot, just ask me nicely.-
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there were several questions and posts directed at you. to ignore all of them to make that simple statement screams jester to me. no one would be that brazen as scum.
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i doubt the setup is 7-3-1, that seems pretty scum-sided especially with the 1 being a positive utility role for scum. that said i kinda support going for a wolf today and gambling that if we fuck up, the wolves will kill the jester and get a double-kill for themselvesIn post 226, Almost50 wrote:Let me think aloud..
Assuming worst case scenario; we are in 7-3-1. We need to eliminate a WOLF or we will lose. Why? because with a miselimination coupled with a NK we would be in a 5-3-1 situation. We cannot afford to eliminate the Jester then, but scum can 9and probably will). They get 2 NKs and win as they reach parity with the town. They could also let us put Italiano on the ballot (tomorrow) and pit him against a townie, so we can choose between going into the night with 5-3 (and them having 2 NKs) or going into the night as 4-3-1 (and them having one NK). Now if we do eliminate the Jester today we would be at 7-3 going into the night (with the Wolves having 2 NKs) which means we are 5-3 tomorrow. Still not an ideal situation and I don't know what to do at this point.
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why defector over wolf?In post 229, Almost50 wrote:I just said I don't know anymore. I am least impressed by WLC's play so far, and I lowkey suspect Galron for Defector. We do npt need to eliminate the Defector to win though, but it's one less anti-town slot anyway.
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not really. even now i dont see why that says youre a bard.In post 234, Elements wrote:
this is what I thought would've given it awayIn post 82, Elements wrote:yes, so when you get a non-corrupt result you'll see it was a waste-
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hmm just had a shower thought. its kinda important that we decide as a town BOTH people we want on the ballot, and assign people to vote for each. people can then confirm when theyve voted and this will allow us to control who is on the ballot. otherwise scum could see that someone (e.g. italiano is clearly the most voted person) and then vote an obvtown, so that the ballot is obvtown + italiano forcing us to kill italiano or whomever. today with italiano it wouldnt be that bad, but if scum can force two townies onto the ballot that puts us in a pretty rough spot.-
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im pretty sure the clairvoyant gets a night action PM right? also the fact that there might be a bard doesnt mean youre the bardIn post 242, Elements wrote:
you can only see a non corrupt result if there is a bardIn post 235, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
not really. even now i dont see why that says youre a bard.In post 234, Elements wrote:
this is what I thought would've given it awayIn post 82, Elements wrote:yes, so when you get a non-corrupt result you'll see it was a waste-
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im not after elements as scum. im after elements for hardclaiming.In post 249, Almost50 wrote:@T-Swift: Please don't make me second guess my TR on you. bard claim + No CC + morning announcement = Elements is confirmed Bard.
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i kinda feel like its a waste to investigate italiano. on the other hand, we do need to sort that slot for sure, and early investigations are less likely to hit scum, so i guess if we are gonna do it better now than later. like the odds of actual scum there are pretty low.In post 253, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I think the highest wolf make the kill...which doesn't really matter bc we dont have a tracker
I dont like Ele claim as it makes the cop easier to find however , I am tending to believe him. We dont have a cc and there is no reason not to cc as we have the inn keeper and the cop . Bard is a secondary important role IMHO given theInnkeeper is in play. I do not think the Innkeeper of the cop should crumb and give the ww a clue to their ID..but they are free to do what they want.
I think the cop should investigate Italian. If he does ping corrupt then we lynch him if not then he prob the jester and we can make a better decision what we do with him tomorrow.-
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so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates, which we didnt.-
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well because the only way for town to coordinate is to do it in thread. we were trying to coordinate to ballot two people who didnt make it onto the ballot. it seems apparent that our attempt to coordinate failed.In post 270, ItalianoVD wrote:
And you would know this...how?In post 269, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so on the one hand im all for voting galron. that slot is scummy as hell. on the other hand, id like people to claim who voted for whom. i dont trust that it was townies who balloted galron and italiano. the scum are a large enough voting bloc that they should be able to get at least one person on the ballot unless town coordinates,which we didnt.
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have you considered our offer to work with town for a few days and then get killed?
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you might want to actuallyIn post 300, ItalianoVD wrote:
He he he, you may wanna look at what a Jester does again mate.In post 298, Almost50 wrote:I am also positive the Wolf pack voted the Jester (and will vote him here too).They get TWO KILLs if he is eliminated, so why not?-
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this doesnt make me want to elim you any lessIn post 313, Galron wrote:I won't be role claiming. I'm going to check that I'm ready to move on.-
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considering they dont get to vote i doubt itIn post 373, Pine wrote:It's probably one of the people on the ballot holding this up.
@Mod: Is that how the rules were designed? Because you'd like...never have the day end except with deadline that way-
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why? delaying wont change things will it?In post 379, Pine wrote:Thanks for asking the question I probably meant rather than what I actually asked
I’m even more convinced now that scum is on the ballot, and one of their buddies is holding it up.-
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this is the only post ive seen where someone thought about changing off of italiano. and i scumread that post pretty hard.In post 374, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Dont know..... Pine seems too eager to end the day.
I think I might change my vote and roll my chances with Italian. The logic behind this if he is the jester we get rid of him early and take our chances with losing a day elimantion
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or the scumteam are holding up the ballot to try and make us think galron is scum so we off the jester and they get two kills. reminder: we either gamble on galron or give scum two kills.In post 382, Pine wrote:Apologies, that was rudely said, but convincing people is thepointhere. When we went to ballot the majority was convinced Italiano was Jester, so the only reason for delay would be to convince people to either not target Galron or to begin targeting Italiano (semantic difference, yes, but different motivations.) If Galron were Town, the scumteam wouldn’t be holding up the ballot.-
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i also did not perform the night kill, nor do i have any knowledge of who did. i dunno why glitch wasnt on the ballot yesterday, and being cryptic today isnt gonna cut it for me tbh. im not gonna vote to end the phase until glitch gives info.In post 470, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I voted Glich...... when I saw the results. Glitch needs to claim unless he can prove that the cop did not investigate him.
A50- why WLC?
I want to sort Italian today.....if possible
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this has me sold on town!brighteningskiesIn post 500, brighteningskies wrote:In post 492, insomnia wrote:
Something about this line doesn't ring genuine to me at all.In post 487, brighteningskies wrote:Oh oops missed your post before I posted mine. Why did you not just check yourself and prove yourself to be town?
I just woke up when I posted that and missed Glitch claiming clairvoyant but ok. Feels a bit like you're reaching.
Agreed on Fuzzy as a check. Also yup I'd be a waste of a check lolIn post 499, WeyounsLastClone wrote:My preferred check would be Fuzzy. At some points I feel he's trying to look helpful, but is actually confusing matters.
I don't fully trust Skies either, but would come up as corrupt regardless (Sinner or WW).
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I'mreluctantto vote off a potential clairvoyant because I've seen times where clairvoyant messes up and gets killed by town and then the game is lost.
But on the other hand I don't really trust Glitch and the fact that he didn't say who he checked the first night in his claim post is weird to me!
You think he'd come out with all the info. Surely if he checked anyone that isn't me, we would have the game won because that's two wolves (unless there is seducer). It's almost as if he had to stall for time to think of someone to have checked idk..
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i also said fuzzy but im fine with WLC too. i think we check one of them and then if the result is non-corrupt then we lunch the other.In post 526, Almost50 wrote:Btw, I think this is what has been expressed so far (sorry if I missed something as I quick skimmed just now)
A50 -> WLC
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im not saying we leave it up to the clairvoyant. im saying we decide collectively, and then tomorrow if theres an inno result, then we lunch the other person.In post 531, Almost50 wrote:
That is inconclusiveIn post 529, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i also said fuzzy but im fine with WLC too. i think we check one of them and then if the result is non-corrupt then we lunch the other.-
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today we are lunching glitchIn post 534, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:In post 533, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
im not saying we leave it up to the clairvoyant. im saying we decide collectively, and then tomorrow if theres an inno result,In post 531, Almost50 wrote:
That is inconclusiveIn post 529, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i also said fuzzy but im fine with WLC too. i think we check one of them and then if the result is non-corrupt then we lunch the other.then we lunch the other person.
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lunch is a safe word that no one should have qualms about. you eat lunch during the day, and sometimes it results in death. it conveniently starts with L so L-1, lylo, etc still all work.In post 541, brighteningskies wrote:
Not sure if you're typing lunch on purpose because of the site changes? but either way "lynch" is a word people are trying not to use just to let you know.In post 533, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
im not saying we leave it up to the clairvoyant. im saying we decide collectively, and then tomorrow if theres an inno result, then we lunch the other person.In post 531, Almost50 wrote:
That is inconclusiveIn post 529, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i also said fuzzy but im fine with WLC too. i think we check one of them and then if the result is non-corrupt then we lunch the other.
Also you're saying we burn one of either Fuzzy or WLC depending on who we actually check?? Not sure how I feel about that, we might wanna put pressure on one of them sure but not move straight to elimination.
ALSO will people please stop saying a check on them is a waste.. Surely you can understand why it looks scummy to say that and the only check that is genuinely a waste is checking me because you won't be able to tell if I'm a wolf or not from the check since it will be a Corrupt result either way.
also i loled at the "no one is allowed to say that getting checked is a waste except me"
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no A50 dont fall for WLC's shenanigans!In post 583, Almost50 wrote:
I actually agreeIn post 582, WeyounsLastClone wrote:I'd like to switch and potentially have Pine checked. I'm not sure about his intentions.
Pine (2): WLC + A50
WLC (2): Swift + Fuzzy
Fuzzy (1): skies
Italiano (1): Inso
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hes not worth checking because hes prolly scum?In post 614, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Atp. i kinda want to check WLC and if we dont get a hit kill Pine tomorrow bc he pinging almost all of my scum bells atm.... He almost not really worth checking. The only problem is the PR claim-
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