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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:41 am

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In post 1535, Andresvmb wrote:I think VPB has been irritable/solvey and they’re not backing from a fight (say for example, with Green Crayons)
i don't remember fighting with Baltar so what's this?
In post 1535, Andresvmb wrote:So, if you look at the game with those slots as Town, I’m starting to think that {Green Crayons, RLotus, Dunnstral} and to a lesser extent midwaybear all make sense as potential executions.
no mention of Harumi/maxwell in the town reads but also left off elim pool. what's up?
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:44 am

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i'm jiuggling work and childcare otday so will try to catch up and vote soon
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:10 am

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In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:i don't remember fighting with Baltar so what's this?
Yeah, I had no clue what this is referring to either. I assume some misremembering.
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:15 am

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In post 1627, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:i don't remember fighting with Baltar so what's this?
Yeah, I had no clue what this is referring to either. I assume some misremembering.
Yeah, sorry. I meant these arguments:
- Duchess
- RLotus

Trying to keep track of who is fighting who is not the easiest from memory.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:18 am

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In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:no mention of Harumi/maxwell in the town reads but also left off elim pool. what's up?
Uhm, I have definitely tried to place everyone in my head and express a read. I have a whole silly pyramid I built with literally everybody’s name on it. So I’m not sure where this is coming from. I made one adjustment after the pyramid I posted which is to switch you with midway (and I’m partly influenced by RTP you could say on that one).
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:20 am

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In post 1618, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:last minute wagons can materialize and hit scum idm datisi voting his heart
I have yet to see a CFD in this forum lead to Scum I have to say. But there’s always room for a surprise.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:23 am

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In post 1630, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1618, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:last minute wagons can materialize and hit scum idm datisi voting his heart
I have yet to see a CFD in this forum lead to Scum I have to say. But there’s always room for a surprise.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:25 am

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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:27 am

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In post 1631, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1630, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1618, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:last minute wagons can materialize and hit scum idm datisi voting his heart
I have yet to see a CFD in this forum lead to Scum I have to say. But there’s always room for a surprise.
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:28 am

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Yeah if you are talking last minute wagons hitting scum, that game was like a textbook example of that play working

Pedit - got you.
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:29 am

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In post 1614, Andresvmb wrote:We clearly have different philosophies about what makes sense
why does this feel like a lowkey insult :lol:
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:30 am

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Obviously it’s not going to fail every time. But it always feels random to me. It leaves the game at the mercy of the most active players, and if you have good Scum, it leads to some bad conclusions typically.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:32 am

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I feel pretty good about most of the active players in this game
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:32 am

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In post 1635, Datisi wrote:
In post 1614, Andresvmb wrote:We clearly have different philosophies about what makes sense
why does this feel like a lowkey insult :lol:
It’s not an insult. And I haven’t checked the rules but I tend to be a lot less forgiving of this attitude when a majority is needed for an execution. If you just need plurality, then I tend to be far more stubborn about my vote (and would wholeheartedly endorse your strategy). I just remember that most games here need majorities so I try and push for consolidation more aggressively.
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:33 am

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In post 1629, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:no mention of Harumi/maxwell in the town reads but also left off elim pool. what's up?
Uhm, I have definitely tried to place everyone in my head and express a read. I have a whole silly pyramid I built with literally everybody’s name on it. So I’m not sure where this is coming from. I made one adjustment after the pyramid I posted which is to switch you with midway (and I’m partly influenced by RTP you could say on that one).
Yeah I saw your pyramid in 1536 but your big substance post of narrowing down your elim pool was in 1535 and 1535 didn’t mention harumi/max. Just wanted to know basis for your read on the slot. If you put it somewhere I missed it so just link me to it and call me dumb.
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:34 am

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In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1535, Andresvmb wrote:I think VPB has been irritable/solvey and they’re not backing from a fight (say for example, with Green Crayons)
i don't remember fighting with Baltar so what's this?
In post 1535, Andresvmb wrote:So, if you look at the game with those slots as Town, I’m starting to think that {Green Crayons, RLotus, Dunnstral} and to a lesser extent midwaybear all make sense as potential executions.
no mention of Harumi/maxwell in the town reads but also left off elim pool. what's up?
In post 1639, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1629, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:no mention of Harumi/maxwell in the town reads but also left off elim pool. what's up?
Uhm, I have definitely tried to place everyone in my head and express a read. I have a whole silly pyramid I built with literally everybody’s name on it. So I’m not sure where this is coming from. I made one adjustment after the pyramid I posted which is to switch you with midway (and I’m partly influenced by RTP you could say on that one).
Yeah I saw your pyramid in 1536 but your big substance post of narrowing down your elim pool was in 1535 and 1535 didn’t mention harumi/max. Just wanted to know basis for your read on the slot. If you put it somewhere I missed it so just link me to it and call me dumb.


And it’s obviously not dumb since VPB also asked it.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:35 am

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In post 1551, ItalianoVD wrote:Oh my bad, I mixed up midway with maxwell. I think people were compromising on maxwell not midway. But come on, we keep disintegrating these wagons just to run up another one to do it again.
In post 1550, ItalianoVD wrote:I've been keeping up with thread off and on today. I'd like for us to be able to end this day ASAP because I think we all need a break. I feel like I've caught on to something with RTP and feel like maybe there was possibly some theatre involved, but then again maybe I'm being unreasonable. I don't really feel like it right now, but I'll look at your iso and interactions again. But it looks like a lot of people can/will compromise for midway. Midway is a slot I haven't felt good about since he replaced in. I don't know about Elements, I'ma bit torn there, I can hammer if it gets to that point. Anything to end this day, but I generally feel the best about eliminating midway.

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In post 1551, ItalianoVD wrote:Oh my bad, I mixed up midway with maxwell. I think people were compromising on maxwell not midway. But come on, we keep disintegrating these wagons just to run up another one to do it again.
So are you suspecting midway, max, both, or neither? What is with this whiplash.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:41 am

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In post 1619, VP Baltar wrote:Yeah, I definitely agree. I'm not confident at all in this being the right choice, but if I'm going to compromise, at least I'm voting with my top town read.
You’re also voting with your top Scum Read if I don’t have it wrong. Right?
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:47 am

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In post 1594, Datisi wrote:cool, why?
Your play has been fairly transparent + your interactions with others is natural, doesn’t seem like it’s angling for a position, but also isn’t make work but looks like trying to sort players
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:48 am

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In post 1642, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1619, VP Baltar wrote:Yeah, I definitely agree. I'm not confident at all in this being the right choice, but if I'm going to compromise, at least I'm voting with my top town read.
You’re also voting with your top Scum Read if I don’t have it wrong. Right?
No, dunn was on elements last I checked. I was there for a hot second, but didn't feel good about it. I'm sheeping Datisi now.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:51 am

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In post 1603, ItalianoVD wrote:@Elements @BM might as well just vote me. We can end this day and you guys can catch the scum that’s on my wagon.
So that ATE I mentioned before as being lo-fi just got cranked to 11. Not sure what this is supposed to accomplish from town POV?
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:55 am

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In post 1641, Green Crayons wrote:So are you suspecting midway, max, both, or neither? What is with this whiplash.
Why are you asking a question you already have the answer to?
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:55 am

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In post 1640, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1535, Andresvmb wrote:I think VPB has been irritable/solvey and they’re not backing from a fight (say for example, with Green Crayons)
i don't remember fighting with Baltar so what's this?
In post 1535, Andresvmb wrote:So, if you look at the game with those slots as Town, I’m starting to think that {Green Crayons, RLotus, Dunnstral} and to a lesser extent midwaybear all make sense as potential executions.
no mention of Harumi/maxwell in the town reads but also left off elim pool. what's up?
In post 1639, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1629, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1625, Green Crayons wrote:no mention of Harumi/maxwell in the town reads but also left off elim pool. what's up?
Uhm, I have definitely tried to place everyone in my head and express a read. I have a whole silly pyramid I built with literally everybody’s name on it. So I’m not sure where this is coming from. I made one adjustment after the pyramid I posted which is to switch you with midway (and I’m partly influenced by RTP you could say on that one).
Yeah I saw your pyramid in 1536 but your big substance post of narrowing down your elim pool was in 1535 and 1535 didn’t mention harumi/max. Just wanted to know basis for your read on the slot. If you put it somewhere I missed it so just link me to it and call me dumb.


And it’s obviously not dumb since VPB also asked it.
ty should probably catch up before asking Qs

I guess I can’t blame you for the read, but blah.

I find when people voice similar suspicions as me then they are on a town wavelength and I give them town points. Not just the alignment read itself (bc scum can do that with 100% accuracy).

For maxwell, is it both of those or just the latter (I’m referring to the quote where I think he had same town block as you)?
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:57 am

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In post 1646, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 1641, Green Crayons wrote:So are you suspecting midway, max, both, or neither? What is with this whiplash.
Why are you asking a question you already have the answer to?
Is 1550 about midway or maxwell? That’s my confusion bc of 1551.

The “neither” was sarcasm.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:58 am

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I thought 1550 was about midway but then you mention Whoops maxwell in 1551 so we’re you intending 1550 to be about maxwell or is 1550 supposed to be about midway and you just thought folks were looking there. If the latter, do you suspect maxwell?
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