Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[SirCakez]

Votecount 3.1

Bridgeburners (4) - Not_Mafia, seCret hYdra, Datisi, Isis
Not_Mafia (1) - Bridgeburners
seCret hYdra (1) - Petapan

Not voting (3) - Schiavetto, PenguinPower, Something_Smart

(expired on 2021-03-17 10:37:00) remain until day end

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

[PenguinPower]

ooooh

i can be nm

[petapan]

you could but they're probably town

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: secret hydra

[Not_Mafia]

ooooh

i can be nm

VOTE: Not_Mafia

It's safe for you to vote for Bridge now

[PenguinPower]

[Not_Mafia]

Of little old me?



Who could distrust such a cute, jolly creature?

[Bridgeburners]

Menalque can you explain to me why you aren't spitting fire like you did when you got pushed in PYP?

Yeah, simple, I haven’t been as towny here as I was in PyP so it’s possible to just be wrong on me

Plus a slightly greater disengagement from the game as some things haven’t been that fun to deal with, and irl has been v up and down for me lately

[Bridgeburners]

No but i don’t need to to say “they’re probably not clearing” I just need to know what I do about shirou

Why aren't you pushing back against the people saying the interactions between me/Shirou are clearing, then?

Because I’m not trying to lim you

-QB

[Something_Smart]

So you're willing to see people using bad arguments as long as they don't affect what you personally are trying to do?

[Bridgeburners]

Pretty much, yeah

I think this is a major point of difference in how we see the game

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

I’m like I don’t really care if people do what I want because of good or bad reasons so long as they do it

Be that reasons to scumread and lim my scumreads or townread and not lim my townreads

The important thing in both cases isn’t how I achieve those things, just that they are achieved

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

hey i don't have oodles of time tonight but i want to strongly reiterate that i think sechyd is scum, and that ss + peta + penguin are town

the thought has crossed my mind at this point, as it's likely we have two remainign scum, that dats and sechyd are partnered

~ skitter

[Bridgeburners]

also: gypyx has been around. i see he's literally on site *right now*
why hasn't he posted in like a week again?

~ skitter

[Schiavetto]

Probably lurking so he can steal reads from the rest of the pl

[Schiavetto]

bridgeburners - honestly, at this point, no one seems that likely to be partnered with them. just doesn't seem that likely to be a hit imo

what about you

I was thinking schia/bridges were reasonably partnery.

[Schiavetto]

something_smart - very likely town both by mechanics and play, has actual reads, isn't playing like a dead man walking because of his claim
penguinpower - feels real, can't point to a particular moment but when he makes content posts it looks serious and scumhunt-y
bridgeburners - honestly, at this point, no one seems that likely to be partnered with them. just doesn't seem that likely to be a hit imo
schiavetto - has faded but was all right early, still reasonably not partnered with notscience. starting to angle toawrd bridgeburners yesterday wasnt great though
not_mafia - showing flashes of actually giving a shit which is town for him
datisi - idk, still not feeling his withdrawal from the game, but reaction to me yesterday was okay, no obvious opportunism. might have been saved by infinity but maybe not if there's a jk
isis - down here mainly because i don't have a strong reason to townread her
secret hydra - don't think the shirou interactions are clearing and

both heads are kind of playing like i'd expect from them as scum, has a feeling of inauthenticness to some of their posts

elaborate?

[Bridgeburners]

I think i'm allowed to vote sechyd now - mena still wants nm tho

VOTE: sechyd

~ skitter

[seCret hYdra]

elaborate?

i'd also love to see this

peta has had very recent experience alongside the player i'm emulating, as scum partners

he knows iconeum plays heavily into protect the buddy and not attack the buddy

so stating this is what he *expects* of scum!me is... interesting

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

also: gypyx has been around. i see he's literally on site *right now*
why hasn't he posted in like a week again?

~ skitter

who cares? he isn't even talking to me in pt nor discord
i'm here and you are not even answering my questions so what do you need gypyx for?

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

VOTE: secret hydra

talk to me? why are we scum?

why is my case on BB bad? Why is theirs good?

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

most of shirou's interactions are so messy that i gave up on trying to read into them, not that i want to discourage you from trying, i just have no idea what to make of most of them

this reads partner-y with shirou and like infinity is on the right track lol

~ skitteR

just noting that peta is trying really, really hard to negate people's partner reads off of shirou's iso

also: daaaaaaaaattttttttttttssssssssssss i see you've been around today. do u have thoughts on things?

~ skitteR

tl;dr

i think peta is scum and his reasons for scumreading my slot are scummy, as were his reasons for scumreading aaron

~ skitteR

i haven't heard from mena since overnight :/ i'll let him know tho

implo i still never really ~liked~ but i've played against scum-him like three times and i always townread scum-him so i'm wondering if i'm not townrading him atm if that means he's town? i don't know. i don't have a good read on him. ithink he had some anti-partner-y vibes with ben as his wagon formed, so if ben (ss) was scum i think it would point to town-implo but i think ss is town anyways now so this is probably moot
i like still don't twonread him per se but i also don't know if i want him flipped, as he seems like everyone's favorite cw rn

peta is by far my biggest scumread, and i'm not sure where scum is otherwise, which is why i decided to start working on some of the other slots i don't have great reads on (i.e. at this moment i'm sorting you, etc)

~ skitteR

Also, i townread peta fairly strongly now as well, sorry for the earlier tunnel

what made you change your mind on the peta slot?

can you also reply to your progression on my slot? I posted it earlier. You went from townreading my interactions with shirou, to seeing shirou flip scum and deducting from that, that i'm scum with shirou.

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

you never actually voted him and the whole thing concluded with "hm, you may be town after all" so, no, for me it's not particularly clearing

it's not the conclusion, it's the interaction itself which is allignment indicative

or in this case, the evidence that i'm not partners with shirou

you know that

you've literally seen it in action from the first row

i don't attack buddies like that, i try to protect them

so how is that exactly pointing towards what you'd expect from scum!me?

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

Heya i'm kinda back, and will catch up more fully tonight

But i just want to say: ico is not solving. He's coming in every morning, making a flurry of posts, and then leaving. He is utterly lacking the drive/motivation to solve that i associate with town-him, and he, to put it quite bluntly, is not trying to solve the game. He's doing the bare minimum to 'be present' but isnt looking for scum

Whenever people criticize his slot he falls back on 'but i cant bw partnered with shirou!!!!1!', while ignoring the part where this game can be multiball and that associative should not be fully clearing - but he's acting like it is, and like he is absolved from all other scumhunting and cannot be considered scummy in any other context because of it

Now, imagine you're scum and have a great looking associative with your flipped partner- what would you be doing differently than ico is doung here? I imagine that your play would have many of the same elements of ico's, namely: coasting off of the associatve (check) and using it to absolve your slot of anything scummy it may have done otherwise (check)

And gypyx is awol, and when he is here his posting ia gross

(Working out the dissonance + need to actually catch up before i move our vote etc)

~ skitter

i have been pushing slots around all game
i've got townreads
i made poe's

accusing me of making flurry posts is like saying i'm tall or whatever. It's what I do. How is that AI? Accusing me of leaving after making my catchup? What more do you want? There's LITERALLY NOBODY ONLINE AND POSTING DURING MY ONLINE HOURS. I'd be interacting live with them otherwise.

Am I using my interaction with shirou as a main line of defence? Sure. But for good reason.

Literally the only thing that holds up here is that gypyx posting was bad. You got me there. Bad posting from a head. Must be scum. Good job.

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

i've only went like 30% thru page one of our iso

how can you seriously tell we haven't been trying to solve this game

there's way to many posts

-a main push on isis
-a main push on shirou
-a main push on both implo and SS
-a main push on BB

-solving datisi/schiavetti/infinity/PP/Isis into the townblock (just from the top of my head i'm probably forgetting names here even

BB, do you disagree that any of this happened? Because I can just go look it up on our ISO for you.

Are you going to start admitting that your entire scumread on us is just the 'but look gypyx head made a few bad posts there', or what?

-seCret