Meaning people who we don't let trust pair anyoneIn post 254, Almost50 wrote:What's your definition of "never-pairings" here?In post 84, Ich Troje wrote:That was my plan initially but I realized quickly how stupid that was and just PoEing people into never-pairings is much more effective.
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this post gives me massive scumpings. I dont know why it just vibes so wrongly with me.In post 217, skitter30 wrote:Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...
I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
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Ich is probtownIn post 302, Ich Troje wrote:I hate i cant vote people lmao“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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On the contrary, if I flip scum (and I will flip first, probably), it just makes it seem like he can't be town.In post 299, Ich Troje wrote:I admit i have no good meta on T3 nor any degree of success of accurately reading them but these bold "would never do as scum"gambits are tbe type of thing he does as scum to their scum buddy to make it seem like they can't be partnered ever here.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Which partIn post 301, Ich Troje wrote:
this post gives me massive scumpings. I dont know why it just vibes so wrongly with me.In post 217, skitter30 wrote:Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...
I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
Can you explain why you reached this conclusion here skitter?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
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Dont knowIn post 296, T3 wrote:
How can I redem myself?In post 295, skitter30 wrote:Ss is def going before you, and you probably aren't getting trusted at all at this rate
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The part where you want T3 to randomly trust people, as well as the T3/Dats pairing.In post 306, skitter30 wrote:
Which partIn post 301, Ich Troje wrote:
this post gives me massive scumpings. I dont know why it just vibes so wrongly with me.In post 217, skitter30 wrote:Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...
I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
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lmao when u subconsciously slip that you could flip scum >>In post 305, Something_Smart wrote:
On the contrary, if I flip scum (and I will flip first, probably), it just makes it seem like he can't be town.In post 299, Ich Troje wrote:I admit i have no good meta on T3 nor any degree of success of accurately reading them but these bold "would never do as scum"gambits are tbe type of thing he does as scum to their scum buddy to make it seem like they can't be partnered ever here.-
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Actually on further reflection this is close to NAI; the sentiment is genuine but I could see that genuine sentiment coming from scum too since not being able to vote would still feel unnatural.In post 304, Umlaut wrote:
Ich is probtownIn post 302, Ich Troje wrote:I hate i cant vote people lmao“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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They are Koba right?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Oh, I didn't even think about who they really are or even whether they're an alt at all, I'm not considering meta here.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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Yeah. I knew after there were 3 emojis used in a row.In post 311, Something_Smart wrote:They are Koba right?-
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i tried to get some rest, it didn't work, this game is still not readable for me, but i will try
i still don't get the idea behind this. like i get that scum wants a townie to trust them. but if you want to avoid that, then have an agreement to only have consensus townreads pair. i get it's fun and all to want to do a hero scum pair, but like. the most likely way that ends is with a free scum leave, because odds are you don't have the hero solve. (and right now you don't have it.)In post 217, skitter30 wrote:Ig we can force t3 to trust different people and see what happens / if they take it ...
I feel like t3/dats would be interesfing but also like maybe a50 shouls do stuff before we force pairings i'm realizing
hmm - what are the odds this is scum!s_s getting the trust of a townie, then galaxy brain not accepting it? he's still likely to leave the game early, but upon his redflip, t3 has a huge target on his back.
removing the tinfoil, i am getting scumpings from a50's posts. not sure why. very low confidence on it considering i blunder my read on him about always.
wait, so you're telling me that "mechposting" actually isn't a scumtell, and scum!me has been avoiding it like the plague for over a year for basically no reason? fucking hellIn post 262, Almost50 wrote:
Mate, I'm sure if you voted the player that posts the 500th post you'd catch scum more often than that!!!In post 141, Datisi wrote:
it caught me as scum onceIn post 140, Something_Smart wrote:
How often does this tell actually work?In post 109, Datisi wrote:arguing mech / semantics / setup strategy is a thing scum often does because it's posting and presence but it's actively stopping game progress.
also uh
i really do not want to trust t3 here
like if i get an overwhelming majority on (1) we should try to solve the game with a hero flip (2) here are good reasons on why these two are the scumteam specifically, i'll do it, but like. i feel like that doesn't end pretty
309 doesn't give good vibes
hot? take: if ich is scum, their partner isn't in s_s/t3. like this spearheading to have them flip together feels a bit too... obvious/desperate for now. idk i feel like it's more likely to be a towncred farm than a "getting the buddy out of game" strategy
i almost started townreading umlaut for being lazy but then i remembered i probably shouldn't do that
i have way too many scumpings and like half a townread, that is sadI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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I dont believe i said he should randomly trust peopleIn post 308, Ich Troje wrote:The part where you want T3 to randomly trust people, as well as the T3/Dats pairing.
I was sort of thinking that if he's scum and trusts a partner they wont take it
But now that i think abt it i dont know if a townie would take it either
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yeah I think I agree with this. if I actually took their offer and T3 flipped scum then they would almost certainly lose if scum.In post 316, Datisi wrote:hot? take: if ich is scum, their partner isn't in s_s/t3. like this spearheading to have them flip together feels a bit too... obvious/desperate for now. idk i feel like it's more likely to be a towncred farm than a "getting the buddy out of game" strategyIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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I was kinda thinking that if you're partnered with t3, you would want to avoid trusting him since you, like, literally cantIn post 316, Datisi wrote:i still don't get the idea behind this. like i get that scum wants a townie to trust them. but if you want to avoid that, then have an agreement to only have consensus townreads pair. i get it's fun and all to want to do a hero scum pair, but like. the most likely way that ends is with a free scum leave, because odds are you don't have the hero solve. (and right now you don't have it.)
hmm - what are the odds this is scum!s_s getting the trust of a townie, then galaxy brain not accepting it? he's still likely to leave the game early, but upon his redflip, t3 has a huge target on his back.
removing the tinfoil, i am getting scumpings from a50's posts. not sure why. very low confidence on it considering i blunder my read on him about always.
But like i said i'm not sure how to diffrentiate that universe with the universe where you're town and think t3 is scum ....
How *are* you reading t3 btw?
Is there anybody yoh would trust?
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i'm not, i have no clue how to read him
i can agree the stuff he's posted is scummy but i also know he's a Wacky Town Player so i won't even pretend to know what i'm talking about
people that i have at least some reason to trust, vaguely in the order of strength:
- s_s: probably town unless he's galaxy braining scum or his t3 partner is galaxy braining scum. but s_s is probably leaving anyway and i'm independently getting some vague townie pings in his interactions w me
- pengu: this is Vibes
- skitt: maybe i started attacking things that weren't there yesterday bc on a reread it doesn't seem All That Sensical and i can see what others are saying so i guess
- pooky: i kinda don't wanna think that scum!pooky plays like this here? like idk, asking for hero pairs and whatnot feels more like memey town!pooky than scum!pooky
- ich: i had like. one (1) good ping on them yesterday that i'm not even sure if it holds up anymore but i'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here
vulture is still null to me, and t3/a50 are "i actively do not want to trust you"I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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oh right this game has 10 players, not 9
umlaut is around pooky/ich level, like "the style of play and the reads given vaguely remind me of town!umlaut but i have nothing solid to actually back this up with"I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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I'm worried that u were going after town-t3 in mbos while handwaving away his behavior here when i think he's actively been scummier hereShowHiatus once more.
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skitt, i cannot genuinely compare his scumminess between the two games. i knew he was town in mbos12, all his posts were ~town posts~ to me. like yeah i agree he looks scummier here to me, but it's not because i actually compared his posts fairlyI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Ig i'm having a hard time understanding why you arent just going: yeah he's scummy i think he's scumIn post 320, Datisi wrote:i'm not, i have no clue how to read him
i can agree the stuff he's posted is scummy but i also know he's a Wacky Town Player so i won't even pretend to know what i'm talking aboutShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
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