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[Aristeia]

ill sheep enchant idgaf

u can kill me if you sr me i dont feel like playing anymore

[Aristeia]

what tide r u even talking about

ONE PERSON CASED YOU

[Aristeia]

I literally said I didn't want to vote for you

[Aristeia]

I don't think you understand

What I said was the doubt in my heart

I don't have doubts when I am scum

easier to push with confidence than doubt.

[Aristeia]

I am not going to vote for you because I can't do that to you and some part of me still thinks you are town.

I am town

If you are mafia there are 4 other townies who can vote for you.

[Aristeia]

I guess I have hope you would only be this way to me if you were mafia because if you were town you would realize I am worried.

[Aristeia]

why do you assume the worst of me

[Aristeia]

I am not going to vote for you because I can't do that to you and some part of me still thinks you are town.

I am town

If you are mafia there are 4 other townies who can vote for you.

[Aristeia]

okay, if some part of you still thinks i'm town, who is scum then?

I already said this

[Aristeia]

so who is scum then?

[Aristeia]

i'm just lost

[Aristeia]

I'm not sure if I'd be sadder if scum you decided to misyeet me or if town you decided to misyeet me

[Aristeia]

[Aristeia]

I somewhat doubt we have a protective because if we did then Roden shouldn't have died on N1.

Also 2 ICs + 1 Shot-Vig + killblocking role seems overpowered for a 13p mini.

it's possible both scum were just inactive and did not submit a nightkill - which would point towards Salsa/Chaos as niether have any posts on the site overnight and Salsa was VLA.

[Aristeia]

I'm town cuz I don't really treat scum-teammates the way I treated IV.

[Aristeia]

I'm not confident in anything

it is a guess

[Aristeia]

mechanically it makes the most sense because I don't think this game would be balanced if we had a protective with 2 ICs

[Aristeia]

like what else could there be? a bulletproof?

[Aristeia]

now i'm thinking of that game where scum actually did fuck up and forgot to input the nightkill... but that was not_mafia. like, surely not.

pedit: do you have a guess based on dayplay?

by dayplay salsa/chaos feel the weakest out of the unconfirmeds

[Aristeia]

I don't think she is trying to insult you dear.

[Aristeia]

i think 2 ICs, a vig and a backup vig is already pretty stacked in terms of town power so probably scum forgot to shoot at night?

[Aristeia]

which leads me back to Salsa/ChaosO

[Aristeia]

I don't think Datisi forgets to submit a nightkill

[Aristeia]

I don't feel very confident about this guess because it's kind of fitting the pieces in a way that makes me happy

[Aristeia]

I am a VT

[Aristeia]

if they were blocked i think the blocker would claim?

i doubt we have a protective since the first IC died.

i can't think of a reason why mafia would choose to no kill and give the town an extra elim

[Aristeia]

I somewhat doubt we have a protective because if we did then Roden shouldn't have died on N1.

Also 2 ICs + 1 Shot-Vig + killblocking role seems overpowered for a 13p mini.

it's possible both scum were just inactive and did not submit a nightkill - which would point towards Salsa/Chaos as niether have any posts on the site overnight and Salsa was VLA.

^

this is who I believe would forget to submit a nightkill because afk.

[Aristeia]

You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.

[Aristeia]

do you like not know the rules around here :<

[Aristeia]

um there's functionally no difference between copy/pasting and quoting.

you should never copy/paste, or repeat verbatim any moderator communications that you haven't cleared with the mod beforehand.

paraphrasing is ok but you have to be careful with wording.

[Aristeia]

Also, I'm not aligned with Margot, I would have coached her on this if I was. Your partner either doesn't have a lot of experience as well or just let you down.

The idea that I would allow my partner to claim in such a messed up way is frankly insulting

[Aristeia]

also I would definitely not tell her to "copy/paste" her role pm as that's just a modkill like 99% of the time

[Aristeia]

*fingers crossed*

[Aristeia]

you make me sad Datisi

[Aristeia]

VOTE: chaos

now that we know the scum were hard bussing

there is only one other person alive who was voting for IV

[Aristeia]

there are 4 things i have done this game that I do not do if I am scum

1. i do not trash IVs ate and push him
2. i do not let margot make the most bungled ever
3. i do not let up and stop pushing yesterday
4. i do not paranoia on your alignment


if you think i am scum so be it.

[Aristeia]

do you have a point?

[Aristeia]

um...

why would I not defend my townreads?

[Aristeia]

Why defend her? I don't ever remember her in danger of being limmed until she slipped.

?

1543 literally quotes the person who thinks she is scum...

[Aristeia]

Why defend her? I don't ever remember her in danger of being limmed until she slipped.

?

1543 literally quotes the person who thinks she is scum...

One person thinking you're scum != danger of being limmed.

I thought Kyouko was a vig

[Aristeia]

I see the mood in the room is quite against me and noone is on my side

that's fine, I have made many mistakes and probably deserve it

I have a small request.

I would like the dignity of self-hammering if it is decided that I should be eliminated today

I have some things to say at the end and regret I can't be of more aid to you.

[Aristeia]

I didn't see your questions, could you please repeat them?

[Aristeia]

@Ari, despite having solid crush on Datisi, how likely scum!you can/want to pocket him?


I would probably do a good job at pocketing him - the way I'd do it would be however not to suspect him, he tends to react quite harshly to people who think he could be scum.


@Ari, did you play with T3 before?


I have played many games with T3, I believe everyone has as he plays many games.

[Aristeia]

also if i was scum i would have shot kyouko since she is a vig

also this is still true - scum me definitely shoots Kyouko on N2.

[Aristeia]

@Datisi, is Ari bold as scum?

i think so, yeah. i know she's generally anti-bus, last game she went all-in on protecting her partner in yelo. i definitely think that defending partner!margot the way she did this game is very within her scumrange.

That's true.

However I wouldn't attack IV,

I don't really believe in bussing.

[Aristeia]

if I must die then that would be the person I would like to eliminate next

[Aristeia]

Hopefully it is a win.

[Aristeia]

I think it is unlikely with only 3 TPRs

[Aristeia]

Just realized, I never got the logic behind this reasoning when specially you know N_M's play style & people actually don't/can't interact with them....@Ari

It's not impossible to interact with NM.

If he ignores you, you can always test the waters by seeing if people are willing to policy him.

I just remember Gamma being quite mad at NM and surprised he didn't really interact with him in any way here.

[Aristeia]

@Datisi

I don't think it makes a lot of sense for scum!me to spend tons of energy on hard-defending Margot but not spend any energy at all on helping her with her claim, which is fairly trivially easy for me to do.

[Aristeia]

I feel almost insulted you think a scum team with me on it would bungle a claim so badly.


Take a look at Margot's ISO and look what she says about me to pocket me, that's not scum theater, that's me being hopelessly pocketed : (

[Aristeia]

Datisi do you still think it's me?

[Aristeia]

I would prefer to eliminate Chaos but my reads have not been great this game unfortunately

[Aristeia]

I think consensus so far is to kill me today so I would like confirmation from rest of town and then I will leave you with some final thoughts and self-hammer if there is intent.

I have nothing but bright hope that you will find the killer.

Only thing I ask from you is dignity of self-hammer and Datisi read on me because I am curious what he thinks.

[Aristeia]

I think Chaos makes the most sense for an Margot partner because his vote is the only vote positioned on wagon when Margot pivots to hardbussing on IV and slams that elimination through - so this makes sense to me.

However Margot may just be very tricky, I did not expect she would bus so savagely. Honestly anything is possible here, this game is very difficult.

[Aristeia]

I wish I could help you more but I honestly do not have more for you.

[Aristeia]

i'd say that's slightly pointing towards ari

Datisi please no

[Aristeia]

That was the line that stuck in my mind : (

[Aristeia]

she explains her shot here:

Lmao that's not a Miller. N_M with the bad luck swapping off of IV in that fashion

i responded:

t3 is better to kill 100% of the time with how the wagons played out

also IV tmi'd NM town when he said NM conftown

she further expands on her thought process in response to me:

t3 is better to kill 100% of the time with how the wagons played out

also IV tmi'd NM town when he said NM conftown

T3 being better doesn't make N_M bad though, and the second half is just WIFOM imo

[Aristeia]

1. i think you know why i can't take this at face value
2. i think that both of you/chaos are knowledgeable enough to know that margot's claim would get her killed. i also think she pasted the role pm on her own.
3. what are you referring to here specifically? push what?
4. err, why not?

1. sure but you've never seen me trash my partners ever so I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt here.
2. I mean Chaos apparently thinks bulletproof IC is a thing so...
3. I'd push somebody dead, I don't really ever "defer" when I'm scum.
4. Because you're very omgusy and it's much easier to pocket you by making googly eyes at you. If I am paranoid of you it's because I'm actually worried.

[Aristeia]

I wouldn't even have Margot claim a PR at all if I were scum with her; I think 2 ICs and a 1 shot vig is plenty of power in a 13p.

I think it shows chaos tmi'd about knowing where the nightkill was?

[Aristeia]

mm

I think that is E-1?

if someone gives intent I will just write some final words and self.

Enchant you are very disappointing.

[Aristeia]

I don't think it was hammer?

did either you or salsa vote for me? I thought it was just Chaos who did.

It's hard to tell since Gypyx hasn't done a VC today.

[Aristeia]

How can you be certain Chaos will die next?

you vote me out, you get shot at night, what if Salsa or Datisi flinch?

[Aristeia]

I'm not yelling at you?

I'm just trying to avoid being mis-eliminated and you are yawning at me?

[Aristeia]

If i was right and they broke it, it's not me to blame.

actually it would be you to blame if you could've killed scum!chaos today but you were too lazy to even try and decided hey let's kill ari instead because ???

[Aristeia]

I'm not yelling at you?

I'm just trying to avoid being mis-eliminated and you are yawning at me?

You trying wrong, you need to pinpoint last maf, not to avoid execution at all cost. We don't need you alive to win.

I am literally the only person voting for Chaos right now so I'd say if he's scum then I'm literally the only town player trying to kill him?

[Aristeia]

are you really spinning a die to decide who to kill?

[Aristeia]

I wouldn't even have Margot claim a PR at all if I were scum with her; I think 2 ICs and a 1 shot vig is plenty of power in a 13p.

I think it shows chaos tmi'd about knowing where the nightkill was?

margot softed pr on day 1, though. did you call margot out once she claimed town backup vig for the excess of town power?

I didn't see her soft

[Aristeia]

are you really spinning a die to decide who to kill?

Not this time but i could, yes.

ok, as long as you are making a conscious choice that you think I am scummier than Chaos, I am fine with that.

[Aristeia]

I didn't see her soft

if she's scum with you, she probably pointed it out in the scum pt, so.

She is not scum with me

[Aristeia]

I don't understand?

just because you soft, does not mean you have to claim TPR

[Aristeia]

if she claims VT yesterday she probably doesn't die

I would just tell her to claim VT if I am in scum PT with her

[Aristeia]

I'm just happy you are feeling better Datisi

[Aristeia]

at that point I expected she would be modkilled if it was a real quote and eliminated if it was fake and it was fairly clear she would be eliminated either way.

[Aristeia]

the standard penalty for quoting a role pm is modkill.

[Aristeia]

Margot

[Aristeia]

Done up to page 50...

@Mod

, how many days left?

(expired on 2021-11-04 15:43:06)

we are almost at 2 days so you need to make a decision.

[Aristeia]

Done up to page 50...

@Mod

, how many days left?

(expired on 2021-11-04 15:43:06)

we are almost at 2 days so you need to make a decision.

we are almost at 1 day

no elim is a disaster. pls make a decision

[Aristeia]

Datisi even if you get this wrong I will still love you.

But you need to make a decision.

[Aristeia]

i've made the decision, i think you're scum. but don't you have a thing going on where you don't want to vote me and would rather self vote or something?

I wouldn't vote you because I think you're town.

[Aristeia]

@Salsa/Enchant if either of you want to give intent on me I can self-vote.

Good luck tommorrow

[Aristeia]

I guess I'm ready to go if that's the decision you have made? let me know Salsa and I will self.

[Aristeia]

Datisi why do you ghost me ?

It is like you don't want to talk to me anymore.

That makes me sad. I guess I will go now.

[Aristeia]

@Salsa/Enchant

I really wish you two would give me intent to hammer.

I am somewhat tired now and going to bed soon.

I am lowkey somewhat worried that the last scum might just be Datisi here.

Some of the things he has written in the thread do not make sense to me, and I really don't think Datisi!town would actually suspect me here, I truly think he would know I'm town. (How does one not know one's own heartbeat?)

It's like he's not really interested in sorting me or figuring out who he should kill based on who is more likely to be mafia, he is just setting up for tomorrow; Because he knows I am much harder to 1v1 in 3 way than Chaos Omega.

I guess he just hasn't really seemed as townie as I am used to.

Him ghosting me and really not interacting with me is kind of scum!indicative in my opinion.

I would think he would care more about this at the end. Instead it feels like he is just going through the motions.

My reads this game have been awful, you should not listen to me, listen to your own heart.

Chaos is not playing very well either and I honestly have no idea how to read that, I don't have a lot of experience with him.

Good luck tomorrow!

Spoiler: For Datisi Only

Thank you for the memorable game,
I hope you win in the end, whatever your alignment may be.
I hold you in my heart,
Like a long forgotten song,
Dreaming of us dancing,
Under the Summer Sky.

Feel free to vote for me.

If I am still alive when I wake up and there is no reconsideration I will vote myself out.

It has been a fun ride.

[Aristeia]

I am town

please give CO a chance tommorrow

thanks

i really have doubts Datisi is unable to townread me here

[Aristeia]

Good luck

go town

[Aristeia]

I have given you plenty of reasons to townread me

[Aristeia]

why are you even arguing with me. do you think i am twilight trolling you?

[Aristeia]

me knowing kyouko was vig and not shooting her should have been enough for you tbh. did not even need the other reasons.

[Aristeia]

i am glad it is not my decision tomm. <3 you dats

[Aristeia]

wow I played truly terribly.

apologies to my teammates.

congrats to the scum team!

Thanks to Koba for coming in with the late replacement and very nearly saving this game - I know you said you wouldn't tryhard but 200+ posts in 5 days is quite the effort.

@Datisi, please don't take it too hard, you are still amazing and a better player than you give yourself credit for. <3 you always.

[Aristeia]

Love you

iv

<3 but I'm not a strong mafia player which I admits but I didn’t know till now that I've haters already

Salsa I honestly think you played very well and I don't think you did anything that was questionable.

*sending you much love*

[Aristeia]

there is a reason why i usually say that my iq drops in half when i'm town and i enter lylo, and this game is probably the prime example of that. koba deserved much better.

Don't be so hard on yourself Datisi.

Losing is perfectly normal and you are awesome and fun to play with.

[Aristeia]

Are you Marci alt btw?

Nope!

I have no idea why people think I am an alt.