Micro 1038: Brass and Shrapnel - Game Over

[Flea The Magician]

So last time this was played,

2 mafia goons.
Faction abilities were KILL and BLOCK or PROTECT

Odds are Protect gets used every night as the estimated success rate is higher than blocking p a maybe vig.

[Flea The Magician]

@SirCakez

- is this correct:

The setup isn't that mafia get either a factional roleblock OR doc, it's that they get a factional roleblock AND doc but can only choose to use one each night.

?

Basically this is correct from how the game was played last time I was in this setup.

[Pavowski]

But everyone seems to respect them for being a good player so I am wary of my own surface-level read.

I have never been accused of being "respected" or a "good player", so pardon me while I climb right into your pocket

[Pavowski]

So last time this was played,

2 mafia goons.
Faction abilities were KILL and BLOCK or PROTECT

This was my understanding from reading the setup link, but I guess I can see how somebody would be confused about what the mafia can and can't do here. Calling a misunderstanding a "slip" could be a mistake, though. Mafia can misread the setup too.

[SirCakez]

@SirCakez

- is this correct:

The setup isn't that mafia get either a factional roleblock OR doc, it's that they get a factional roleblock AND doc but can only choose to use one each night.

?

Yes this is correct

[imaginality]

The wiki needs updating then because as worded that's not what it says at all

[imaginality]

Also VOTE: unvote since if LGW is familiar with the previous game then the slip wasn't a slip.

[Little Green Wheels]

A small game like this is more difficult with a meme player in it, but I don't think scum take that slot.

ok things I need to address in general currently, but this has really caught me.

Am I correct in assuming that you are TR'ing Onion based solely on dedication to the meme account?

No. They're also solving.

[Little Green Wheels]

I see, you're asking what my thinking was when I voted you. Someone covered that. It was a weird thing to ask. If you would've asked why did I vote you, that would've been one thing, but what was my thinking when I voted you is an approach I can't grok. I think I may have been thinking of butterflies or cornbread at the time.

Ok, then I'm asking why did you vote for me? The offer of chocolate milk is appreciated but if I could get an answer to this that would be much preferred.

I thought it was coming from scum trying not to look like they're OMGUSing.

[Little Green Wheels]

But everyone seems to respect them for being a good player so I am wary of my own surface-level read.

I have never been accused of being "respected" or a "good player", so pardon me while I climb right into your pocket

I bite my thumb at thee.

[Little Green Wheels]

The wiki needs updating then because as worded that's not what it says at all

The way it's written in the description is confusing, but the sample rolecard is correct and I should have read that.

[Little Green Wheels]

Also VOTE: unvote since if LGW is familiar with the previous game then the slip wasn't a slip.

Is this just a typo?

[imaginality]

The vote: unvote? That's just how the vote tags present it.

[UNOwen]

I thought it was coming from scum trying not to look like they're OMGUSing.

You're telling me you voted for me because of the way I reacted after you voted for me.

I suggest buying a lottery ticket.

[UNOwen]

Calling a misunderstanding a "slip" could be a mistake, though. Mafia can misread the setup too.

That's true, but this would be known from their role PMs so they should've been aware that they had both abilities. And even if they weren't at first, I think if scum LGW would probably have checked at some point whether the slip imaginality was accusing them of was actually a slip?

[UNOwen]

I didn't.

I don't buy that this is a consistent position. Post 53 you dismissed the slip but now it's meaningful enough that you think one of them is scum?

UNVOTE: Little Green Wheels
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

[Pavowski]

But everyone seems to respect them for being a good player so I am wary of my own surface-level read.

I have never been accused of being "respected" or a "good player", so pardon me while I climb right into your pocket

I bite my thumb at thee.

Quarrel, sir?!

Hmm do you know me from Shakespeare?

I don't do alt-hunting but maybe you'll clue me in after the game

[Pavowski]

Well I was planning to make a post or two but I need the night off, I will check back in the morning.

[CheekyTeeky]

I didn't.

I don't buy that this is a consistent position. Post 53 you dismissed the slip but now it's meaningful enough that you think one of them is scum?

UNVOTE: Little Green Wheels
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Ftr I no longer think one of them is scum seeing as I also misunderstood the set up.

[CheekyTeeky]

I didn't.

I don't buy that this is a consistent position. Post 53 you dismissed the slip but now it's meaningful enough that you think one of them is scum?

UNVOTE: Little Green Wheels
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Ftr I no longer think one of them is scum seeing as I also misunderstood the set up.

Also, your argument that I'm scum because I'm inconsistent is incredibly weak because it assumes that town are more consistent than scum when I've experienced the inverse to be true. Also also, there is no inconsistency because I didn't dismiss anything. I want to say you're town for trying to place me but I feel like an innocent witness being lead by the defense into falsely incriminating myself, I'm not sure of your motive.

[Flea The Magician]

Currently manic and mid pain flare, V/LA 2 days.

[Pavowski]

I didn't.

I don't buy that this is a consistent position. Post 53 you dismissed the slip but now it's meaningful enough that you think one of them is scum?

UNVOTE: Little Green Wheels
VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Ftr I no longer think one of them is scum seeing as I also misunderstood the set up.

Welcome to Micro 1038, where nobody understands the setup!

[Pavowski]

Whoever said they feel like they can't interact meaningfully with the game. I agree with them.

I was hoping for more interaction on my strategy post. Not gonna lie, I was kinda excited for people to say "go for it." But I guess that shows I'm a bad player since it was universally agreed to be bad.

I'm having a hard time gleaning reads from this game. I don't understand the LGW thing at all. And I voted Imaginality to stir something up, but nothing really changed. So I just feel like a spectator this game.

I will say that I have a town-lean read on Flea. Being the first to come out with a snap post of hot takes seems townish to me. Even though I have no idea if I agree with their assessment or not.

I hate Onion's shtick and if I were really out of ideas at the end of the day I would lim there just to not have to deal with a self-imposed restriction.

I like Pav's activity, it feels pretty genuine so slight town-read for that. But everyone seems to respect them for being a good player so I am wary of my own surface-level read.

If someone wants to make a succinct case and ask me direct questions I'm willing to engage but I feel trapped on the periphery right now.

/pity party over.

Was your strat post universally agreed to be bad? I don't think it was, I think it just focuses on maths too much in a game that is not really about math. (Incidentally I don't love focus on mech talk either.) But since you seem to be trying to engage, what's up with the imaginality vote? Was it just to spark something or do you actually find them scummy?

Do you think policy-limming onion is something we should consider today?

[T3]

The desire to hammer this just to juice this game is strong, but I don't think I'll actually do that

Instead I'll VOTE: UNOwen for so casually (and knowingly!) putting LGW on e-1 and putting this in lolhammer territory.

Why do you dislike this post?

Late Arriving Protestor Has No Idea What He's Chanting

Could you give an actual answer?

No

[T3]

oops