TFT uPick [Game over!]

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Raise your hand if you're town

[Dunnstral]

Also where did Nomsy come from

That is likely the Trainer ability - it is a monster summoned when you have that set active

[Dunnstral]

Nomsy does not hide their last visit activity on their profile.

The following players do hide that information on their profiles:

tictac
Dunnstral
Malakittens
Titus
Frogsterking
Vivax
Sara
Enchant
beeboy
Toogeloo

The following players do not:

mastina
Fredrick A Campbell
Yume
NDMath
SirCakez
Gamma Emerald
MeekMeerkat

Further sorting out players and I don't think that mastina, Yume, NDMath, or SirCakez would make that post. This makes me think that Nomsy is controlled by one of Fredrick A Campbell, Gamma Emerald, or MeekMeerkat.

Nomsy spoke a German phrase, so I searched those 3 isos for the word 'German'. Gamma Emerald is the only one who returned a hit

Spoiler:

Lol nice
For a second I thought was German and then I realized it’s wagen not vogn in German

Just something to think about. I guess it's possible that Nomsy is not hiding their activity for a different reason and I'm off base.

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Why would we vote for Nomsy? They are not a real player slot.

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Why would we vote for Nomsy? They are not a real player slot.

Nomsy, in flavor, serves as essentially an extra slot for it's owner in TFT.

What I'm getting at is that they're not a real player, they seem to be a second account for somebody else. So I don't see how voting for the Nomsy account is helpful. I think the likely outcome of voting them out is that the Nomsy account simply stops being able to post/vote/use any other abilities.

I think that post 18 is too early to say that Nomsy is scum.

It's ironic that Nomsy is accusing us of misdirection in post 22 while voting and accusing others from a secret account. I think there is a lack of self awareness here.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

[Dunnstral]

Is that not standard wording?

[Dunnstral]

What I'm getting at is that they're not a real player, they seem to be a second account for somebody else. So I don't see how voting for the Nomsy account is helpful. I think the likely outcome of voting them out is that the Nomsy account simply stops being able to post/vote/use any other abilities.

I think that post 18 is too early to say that Nomsy is scum.

“Voting Nomsy is pointless because all it would do is kill and flip the slot”
? Then it’s not pointless ?

I don’t yet find anyone scummier than Nomsy.

Well I didn't say that Nomsy would flip an alignment and don't think that is guaranteed. I don't think the Nomsy account has its own alignment or role pm, I think it is merely a part of another player's role pm. I also think that the death of the player who controls the Nomsy account would naturally result in the Nomsy account being removed from play.

I guess I make some assumptions here, but we'd be making different assumptions by trying to eliminate Nomsy

[Dunnstral]

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Ngl nosmy sounds like mb

I might be wrong about nosmy being MB. I think it’s a different player now.

mb = mathblade? They are not in this game. Do you think Nomsy could be someone not on the regular player list, or were you not paying attention?

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Best friends: I don't agree with friendly neighbor, I think that interpretation is based on the name of the trait rather than what it does in the source; I think this trait pairs people up in some way and gives a buff. Maybe just 1 pair for balance.

Mage crest: A mage emblem is an item that makes you count as having 1 additional mage on your team, for the purpose of set bonuses. This sounds pretty specific to the mage role so it's surprising to me that we have two people voting here right now.

Ancient Archives: A tome of traits gives you a choice between different emblems. I have no clue how that would translate to an ability here. Could be similar to mage crest but with different choices.

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Oh I thought they were in the game. Never mind, then I know exactly who Nomsy is then.

I think that I also know who Nomsy is.

[Dunnstral]

I think it’s obvious why Enchant picked Mage Crest but you didn’t know that I knew anything about that until now sooo

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler: survey

Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).

"Get angry easily" = 3

"Take charge" = 3

"Make people feel welcome" = 2

"Like music" = 4

"Like to tidy up" = 2

"Like to visit new places" = 2

"Feel comfortable around people" = 1

"Interested in many things" = 2

"Love order and regularity" =4

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 2

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 1

"Cheer people up" = 5

"Lose my temper" = 3

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 3

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5

"Cheat to get ahead" = 1

"Feel desperate" = 2

"Rarely overindulge" = 3

"Easily resist temptations" = 3

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 4

"Waste my time" = 3

"Need a push to get started" = 5

"Have little to contribute" = 2

"Keep my cool" = 4

"Avoid crowds" = 5

"Turn my back on others" = 1

[Dunnstral]

I would have asked Titus but she’s been ignoring me all game so

Oh well

I've been responding to drama. I'm down to work together but I felt ignored by you too.

I would be interested in this

By the way, how does voting for the Nomsy account help us? Do you think it will flip an alignment?

[Dunnstral]

Titus, want to be neighbors?

[Dunnstral]

Tictac:

-Why are you voting for Nomsy
-What was your reason for voting Ancient Archives and then Best Friends

[Dunnstral]

since other players may have compelling reasons to want me

i got night protect

Why are you claiming this?

[Dunnstral]

please notice

@gamma:
Will you be my hoodRatmate with me ?

malakit is scum who wants to find out

Best friends: I don't agree with friendly neighbor, I think that interpretation is based on the name of the trait rather than what it does in the source; I think this trait pairs people up in some way and gives a buff. Maybe just 1 pair for balance.

Mage crest: A mage emblem is an item that makes you count as having 1 additional mage on your team, for the purpose of set bonuses. This sounds pretty specific to the mage role so it's surprising to me that we have two people voting here right now.

Ancient Archives: A tome of traits gives you a choice between different emblems. I have no clue how that would translate to an ability here. Could be similar to mage crest but with different choices.

I think it’s obvious why Enchant picked Mage Crest but you didn’t know that I knew anything about that until now sooo

Enchant is probably town based on how he’s handling this situation

I have a secret scumread rn.

please lim malakit

This post does not feel like it is in good faith to me

[Dunnstral]

Accept Nomsy's Neighborhood

I suspect no one else really wants to hood with either me or nomsy here.

I would not have been opposed

Dunn, I'm a bit worried about aligning with you. I'm not seeing much in terms of town/scumhunting in your ISO outside of Nomsy.

I like ND's response to hooding with Nomsy even if Nomsy might be bad.

If it was in the thread, what would we need the hood for?

Really though, I'll have stuff to say. Or I can find somebody else to pair with.

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Why are people hunting for an imposter in thread?
That strikes me as like odd and wolfy but too many people are doing it.

???
wtf are you talking about?

I also don't know what they are talking about; seems kind of sus

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler: survey

Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).

"Get angry easily" = 3

"Take charge" = 3

"Make people feel welcome" = 2

"Like music" = 4

"Like to tidy up" = 2

"Like to visit new places" = 2

"Feel comfortable around people" = 1

"Interested in many things" = 2

"Love order and regularity" =4

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 2

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 1

"Cheer people up" = 5

"Lose my temper" = 3

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 3

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5

"Cheat to get ahead" = 1

"Feel desperate" = 2

"Rarely overindulge" = 3

"Easily resist temptations" = 3

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 4

"Waste my time" = 3

"Need a push to get started" = 5

"Have little to contribute" = 2

"Keep my cool" = 4

"Avoid crowds" = 5

"Turn my back on others" = 1

Interesting later addition
Gonna have to null/scum you if you weren‘t already though :mrgreen:
Because you are avoiding to contribute alignment related info imo

Do you have like, 3 TRs and 3 SRs?

I responded to the survey when I was available.

[Dunnstral]

Just starting to townread mastina with a p-value of 95%.

I have a feeling I'm using p-values incorrectly in some way that a statistician may be able to tell me.

Uh yes.
The lowest p-value you could reach on a town read is ~75%, and ~25% for a scumread so you could never disprove your null hypothesis (and also your goal here isn't to test the null hypothesis), meaning it would be clearer to just use raw probabilities than p-values.

Just starting to townread mastina with a p-value of 95%.

I have a feeling I'm using p-values incorrectly in some way that a statistician may be able to tell me.

The cutoff is 97.5 for unimodal curves, 95 for bimodal
Are you measuring two spectrums or one?

I don't even know if this is a game of mafia anymore lmao

The nature of alignments as data points is such that it isn't even continuous, causing it to be neither.

The idea I was trying to get at is that my confidence in all those reads are at 5%.

The statistical idea I was trying to get at is apparently so poorly thought out that my attempts to verbalise it makes me realise it's statistical nonsense.

Postscript:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value

"Since the precise meaning of p-value is hard to grasp, misuse is widespread..."

[Dunnstral]

Why do I need to have 3 strong reads for either alignment?

[Dunnstral]

I was hoping the pt would open, but it looks like we will have to wait for the end of this phase.

UNVOTE:

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Oh I thought they were in the game. Never mind, then I know exactly who Nomsy is then.

if we aint limming toogleoogle them lim malakit while they v/la and cant defend themselves imho

Well that’s a shitty way to play and you should be ashamed of yourself. If you do this and I do find your main I’ll make sure that a policy lim is in order for the anti town play

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there's not a secret deeper meaning behind my rvs, no.

here's a real one
VOTE: gamma
like, i get not having early iso-read on mastina.
it's the characterization of the character-bit she's ding as obfuscating i do object to.
all the regular mastina-bits i could normally see are plainly visible here, so feels like excuses 4 what doesn't need excusing really.
and who needs 2 iso-read mastina w yume going on like she is?

--second post--
whom wants a neighbor? waste not, want not. gonna be inactive fair warn.
also dunn, did i get all ur q's?

I don't think you explained your augment votes

[Dunnstral]

That seems like good reasoning to me mala

[Dunnstral]

?

You said that MrMeerKat was Nomsy

[Dunnstral]

What shipwheel alliance

You know what, I'm with Vivax, I'm sandbagging really hard and you shouldn't read me as town. I'm not really sure why I would be included in a town block

[Dunnstral]

Also. Mastina softed way, way too hard there. Not surprised at all she died first, but I am surprised that she died during the day phase.

This is maybe not something we do righ tnow but keep in mind that some people have confirmable flavor and may not make sense as the person who killed mastina; it can be narrowed down.

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Mod didn't give extencion of deadline after shot.

If shooter is mafia and have more bullets, they can just prevent us from eliminating by shoting close to deadline.
If it was town. Well. Why.

I assume that if they shot at deadline right before an elimination it would have been extended

[Dunnstral]

There goes my hood

[Dunnstral]

So... what is the upside?

[Dunnstral]

Even if you are both town, didn't we just essentially lose a town member?

[Dunnstral]

Can't you just make hood again?

If they want, though it also leaves Yume to find a hood partner for the third time

[Dunnstral]

Even if you are both town, didn't we just essentially lose a town member?

Not unless we get eliminated.

~Titus

Do you count as two slots for parity? And two votes

Because otherwise we just lost one of both of those

[Dunnstral]

Malakittens, want to be neighbors?

[Dunnstral]

Mastina continued to do the rp thing and slowly revealed more and more info about their role, pretty much outright saying that they had 4 abilities that scaled up as people died. Predictably, mafia didn't like that very much and shot her dead. What wasn't expected was that she was also killed during the day phase, so we lost our doublevoter-bp-loved-commuter-cop-governor-dayvigilante. In the resulting power vacuum that ensued from both the day vig firing and mastina's broken role dying, Titus decided to gundam morph into FrogsterKing's slot and now they're a hydra account with 2 seperate alignments (which could be the same). Titus the aired out a laundry list of downsides to doing so then basically said "trust me bro" and hinted that they had really good powers too, so we can expect mafia to take offense to that too. Oh and they only count as 1 for parity so we now have 16 people left on day 1 when we started with 18 in this 17 player game.

[Dunnstral]

24 hours ago I thought town might night action our way to a win. Now it seems like our day play might need to improve instead, and fast.

[Dunnstral]

beeboy had 1 good moment in my eyes, post 35

[Dunnstral]

Actually I liked 28/29 as well

[Dunnstral]

I'm not opposed

Fredrick can have first pick if they'd like

[Dunnstral]

Off the premise that there's 5 baddies, maybe it's 6 even?

A game of this size should have 4 mafia

[Dunnstral]

Looks like Gamma accepted you

[Dunnstral]

Been playing for around 10 years, why?

I guess that's how you caught on to me so quickly

[Dunnstral]

"Legends" has discussed reads during coffee break and has decided not to specify which hydra head feels which way. This is being done in order to avoid pocketing attempts by scum!

Legends has decided to make the following statements:

1) Legends believes Tic tac is scum.

2) Legends believes the following players are Town and has a request for them.

• @Mala
  @Gamma
  @Meerkat
  @Dunnstral
  @SirCakez replacement
  @Yume

Legends believes you're all Town. Yay!

Legends requests updated reads lists from each of you at your earliest opportunity to write one.

Thank you for your time!
-Frog

It is day 1 but there are a few things to form a read off of:

1) How people treated Mastina before the shot

It's possible mafia were planning this shot a bit in advance, in which case it is unlikely they went out of their way to call Mastina mafia. They could have possibly called Mastina town.

2) How people reacted to Mastina being shot

This includes people who did not react at all, of which there are quite a few, I believe.

3) How people reacted to Titus forming the Legends hydra

Again, this includes a lack of reaction. This is something worth commenting on, in my opinion, and not doing so means you are trying to stay away for some reason. Not including people who simply haven't posted since either of these events.

4) Augment voting

What people thought about the augments and how they voted.

5) Neighborhood management

How players have reacted to this power being available.

[Dunnstral]

I think my ideal scum is somebody who has avoided conflict with mastina, had no or low reaction to them being shot, had no or low reaction to Titus forming the Legends hydra, and have seemed generally disinterested in forming neighborhoods, or doing so only as an afterthought.

Ignoring Augment voting as there was a lot of speculation but we didn't know what the powers did.

[Dunnstral]

NDMath seems to fit all of the above criteria, and they are active enough that they didn't simply miss out.

VOTE: NDMath

[Dunnstral]

beeboy if you come back I am open to forming a neighborhood with you.

[Dunnstral]

Vivax, want to form a neighborhood?

[Dunnstral]

The Town Win Conditions is: "You win when all non-town aligned players have been eliminated"

@mod what happens if a non-town player is removed by ways other than an elimination, such as by dying during the night?

I realize that this is a pedantic question,but mastina wasn't eliminated; she

died

. If she were mafia, would town no longer be able to have eliminated all non-town players, therefore losing?

[Dunnstral]

So why aren’t we teething sara??

Well let's start from the premise. Why would we be doing that?

[Dunnstral]

I feel like I've outlined better reasons to scumread people than lurking and questionable meta comparisons. 936 and 937.

[Dunnstral]

I also pointed out that I liked posts 28, 29, and 35

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SO TWO THEORIES
1) really lost new town.
2) really doesn’t read scum Pt and is good at faking lost scum

And your leading theory is that Sara is really good?

For my money I'd bet on incompetence first.

[Dunnstral]

Both of those links are to games that are 2 and a half years old

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I just sat down and took a look at the first game linked beyond the date

I disagree that this game looks similar to that game. I'd even say that this game is instead noticeably different from that game and this weakens your stance, though again I think the meta here is pretty weak due to age plus Beeboy's low contribution in this game

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler: beeboy scum game

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

Hello friends and foes
I am here with a role claim to start off this game.

Unfortunately for a certain individual I have in fact rolled "Cop with a N0" and I opted to use my role on the terrifying "MariaR".
It has come to my attention after receiving my result that she is aligned with the Mafia.

Please help me eliminate her from the game.
Not voting with me is borderline a scum claim.

VOTE: MariaR

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

Willing to share your main?

~strange

Don't waste thread space obviously they won't do this lol.

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

hello - oh you guys are fast

Greetings sir L4pe.
Please vote "MariaR" with me.

This individual goes by many many names, it will become apparent you want this player removed in due time.

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

L4pe not helping me vote MariaR is a pretty major stab ngl.
I will remember this moment

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

ngl I am unsure how I am going to have fun this game if Claire doesn't enter the thread seeing me putting her at L-1.
:(

I am a _____ for whatever that is worth btw.
I am looking for a lover <3

pedit: fine cabd

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

L4pe not helping me vote MariaR is a pretty major stab ngl.
I will remember this moment

i forgot you played like this and how stupid it was

If you play mafia seriously in the crapshoot known as the first 40 pages of the game.
Then you are really just wasting your time ngl.

Given nothing done in these pages actually matters outside establishing a first impression with other players.

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

Cakez gets lynched day 1 in like every game I play with him.
So I am probably never going to actually vote him.

The last time I said this he was in fact scum, but like, idk I like to keep around the people I enjoy :(

They speak with purpose in this game as scum

In this game they look lost

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler: beeboy town game

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

Something something VLA until monday.
I've been a tad sick since around the time I got my role pm, feeling a bit better but mafia is off my mind until I am fully recovered.

This game having multiple confirmation phases is a god send for me in particular so I don't actually miss much.

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

Sorry I'll you see guys in the morning, I am feeling mostly ok.

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

I personally was of the belief mass claiming what we were doing is bad.
Some of us are going to be doing correct things and some of us won't be.

I'd rather not scum kill the people doing what they believe is bad to them.

I am not going to pretend I have reads at this point. (page 4)

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

I lied I hard town read Bingle.

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

I think Bingle's scum tier list is a pretty townie thought process, it's a super weird angle to just open the game up thinking "I want to fake this".
I think comments on whether or not the list is accurate like CM1 and ABRs are totally null. Once the thought is on the table it's not a very hard one to add onto or go against.
So I guess it's not that what Bingle did was hard to fake or even risks there position as scum in some way long term. It's just abstract in such a way it's not something I think scum would care to fake.

The fifth post in particuoar looks similar to post 35 in this game. Theydo seem a littl emore focused than in this game as well

[Dunnstral]

Who is posturing?

[Dunnstral]

i would rather sara over ndmath yeah.

but i want meerkat to propose to me so we can be a hood first T_T

I believe Meerkat wanted to hood with Frederick

[Dunnstral]

Some people are sandbagging harder than I am

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunnstral until I hear back.

Actually probably someone will have something interesting to say from night actions but I'll be :shocked_pikachu: if toog/dunn/ndmath is t/t/t

pedit: Vivax is also a good wagon yes. My inclination is usually to start off the wagon after a scum flip, though

I will bop you so hard

[Dunnstral]

NDMath didn't vote for beeboy or express suspicion there until it was a foregone conclusion that one of the two of them were going to eliminated. On top of that we now have to believe that both Nomsy is town, town has another unclaimed protective role, and NDMath is town, for three protective roles.

There's no reason to believe that the wagons were not both on mafia yesterday

[Dunnstral]

tictac just popped in to say hello in our hood last night, and not much else.

Dunn was quite surprised to have been invited to a second party last night. This was the party with cookies.

To be honest I said a lot more in my other hood than the one with you as I thought and still think that your claim is kind of shady. Mainly that you don't know what it does

[Dunnstral]

Mod confirm for what?

How is scum able to shoot during the day multiple times? Or was that town this time? Can anybody claim it

[Dunnstral]

I don't think Mala claimed day vig

[Dunnstral]

HEAL: Think fast

[Dunnstral]

@Tic tac can you post a reads list?

-Frog

i'm not organized enough atm

do you have a scumread who isn't gamma

ya, ndmath, and dunn was one, but i liked his handling of the mastina situation.
there's an element of omgus in both reads tho, so hard to say if i'm being objective.

Just noticed this; I don't believe I've pushed tictac this game so it's weird that they've described their read on me as omgus

[Dunnstral]

I get why Vivax is being wagoned (their rushed vote to end the day) but I don't agree with it. I don't remember the reasons to vote Frederick.

[Dunnstral]

current affairs:
set of all possible personage, excluding those not playing this game and also excluding those not using the apallation "fred" using an encoding of their thought-patters, that is perhaps overtly baroque for the concepts expressed therein, yet i get the feeling it's done for jocular aims rather than as camouflage, and sure he get's his degrees of proof mixed using a reasonable doubt stardard to counter a preponderance of evidence argument, but such confusions are not altogether uncommon among mafiasum membership.
in short, i don't have a read there, but i do think he is funny.

Is this something you ran through a generator and copy pasted? This makes no sense

[Dunnstral]

Like? Guess what, some games have literal bots in them, or multiaccs.

No they don't

[Dunnstral]

Regarding marcistar: marcistar I'm definitely fine to execute.

i am most certainly not a fine execute

Regarding marcistar: marcistar I'm definitely fine to execute.

i am most certainly not a fine execute

So give us another option because you have yet to present it.

Todays elim should be between Marci vivax or Fred

take me out of there

I'm not liking Marci's recent posting.

VOTE: Marcistar

[Dunnstral]

Also their vote on me is the only vote they've placed all game.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

I‘ll leave it to Dunn to lay out their theory if they want.

I'm not sure I want to focus on them right now

[Dunnstral]

Also their vote on me is the only vote they've placed all game.

this is bs???
when i joined there was what, like 2 days left on the timer..? and don't you already know i dont throw votes around willy nilly?

i think i agree positioning around me is wack by some people and its clear ppl just want an easy bandwagon instead of actually thinking about the game.

And what are you thinking about the game?

[Dunnstral]

And why don't the people voting for you vote for Vivax instead, in your opinion?

[Dunnstral]

I TARGET SOMEONE

ALL DEBUFFS ARE REMOVED THEY GET HEALED TO FULL HEALTH

IF THEY AT FULL HEALTH AND NO DEBUFFS

THEY DISINTERGRATE AND GET FLIPPED LIKE THEY WOULD BY A JANITOR

What does 'get healed to full health' entail here? I am not aware of any kind of health point mechanic.

What happens if you are unable to remove a debuff, or unable to heal a player to full health?

[Dunnstral]

You again went out of your way to avoid answering a question directed at you. If you are town, what do you think that says about Vivax. And what are your opinions on who is mafia?

Furthermore, what do you think about the other claimed protective roles? NDMath, Legends, and Nomsy.

[Dunnstral]

I TARGET SOMEONE

ALL DEBUFFS ARE REMOVED THEY GET HEALED TO FULL HEALTH

IF THEY AT FULL HEALTH AND NO DEBUFFS

THEY DISINTERGRATE AND GET FLIPPED LIKE THEY WOULD BY A JANITOR

What does 'get healed to full health' entail here? I am not aware of any kind of health point mechanic.

What happens if you are unable to remove a debuff, or unable to heal a player to full health?

idk bro why would i care about that lmao

didnt u see how enchant claimed to get -2 health anyways stop playing dumb

What does your role pm say?

[Dunnstral]

I didn't see what Enchant said, by the way. Here it is:

Mafia attacked me.

I received .2 dmg, but didn't die.

I don't remember people talking about this.

[Dunnstral]

I TARGET SOMEONE

ALL DEBUFFS ARE REMOVED THEY GET HEALED TO FULL HEALTH

IF THEY AT FULL HEALTH AND NO DEBUFFS

THEY DISINTERGRATE AND GET FLIPPED LIKE THEY WOULD BY A JANITOR

What does 'get healed to full health' entail here? I am not aware of any kind of health point mechanic.

What happens if you are unable to remove a debuff, or unable to heal a player to full health?

Nomsy has to be town imo.

They were blocked to shoot me unless both NDMath and Nomsy are scum. NDMath claimed their ability triggered

upon something that would be their death

which means I had no bulletproof after night 1.

It is very remote Nomsy protected elsewhere.

Enchant asking if we could die by day/nightkill is sketchy. As are the players that tried to eliminate us after the failed shot.

~Titus

~Titus

~Titus

Nomsy claimed bodyguard, they would have died if they protected you

[Dunnstral]

Cease lying.

It's annoying.

Who is this at? Are you talking about Marci?

[Dunnstral]

No I don't because they were supposedly shot at!

[Dunnstral]

Nope

[Dunnstral]

what is your read on fred?

No idea whether they are town or mafia

[Dunnstral]

@dunnstral or someone else familiar with flavor: does this make sense with her PR claim?

Not really

Starcaller doesn't kill or janitor people

[Dunnstral]

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:facepalm: is this game stalling because it's got 3rd parties who just don't care :igmeou:

It's got town that don't care

[Dunnstral]

I didn't know that

[Dunnstral]

I didn't know that

Pretty sure that info was in the queue thread
Either you’re lying or didn’t bother to look

Link it tough guy

Show me where it said that starcaller disintigrates people

[Dunnstral]

if you have not played TFT this is a handy guide to what traits do:

[Dunnstral]

STARCALLER (1)

The first starcaller to cast their ability each combat heals you for (2/4/100), depending on their star level.

[Dunnstral]

Marci, why did you go for the janitor kill instead of healing Enchant?

[Dunnstral]

A voice rings out!

{Marci,Sara,Vivax}

{Meek,Gamma,Legends,tictac}

{[REDACTED],Enchant}

Who posted this and why does it need to be anonymous?

[Dunnstral]

i think ur being obv abt what ur saying but u shouldve been more obv last phase as well then

Oh no no, you have no knowledge of what I’m about to spring on your ass unless there’s a snake in the grass

it seems like either u had info on toog or ur their buddy

Why are you assuming that Toog was mafia?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: dunn

I need the hammer again.
For real.
No vivax if you take it from me this time I will personally ran an elimination on you

Not sure why you're voting for me

[Dunnstral]

marci, would it be possible for you to heal enchant tonight?

[Dunnstral]

There’s no scum kill tho

how do u know for sure something didnt happen behind the scenes from one of the unclaimed ppl..?

HMM

How many protective roles do you think this game has?

[Dunnstral]

A voice rings out!

{Marci,Sara,Vivax}

{Meek,Gamma,Legends,tictac}

{[REDACTED],Enchant}

Rule of 3 this btw.

~Titus

Why do you assume it's from mafia?

[Dunnstral]

[2]

NDMath

: Dunnstral, Toogeloo

[8]

Fredrick A Campbell

: Nomsy, Gamma Emerald, Malakittens, Vivax, Legends[2], Toogeloo, MeekMeerkat

I provide "doots" to people in the party PT, but I don't know what they do.

I was under the impression that any PT I was in would provide "doots," but was informed by the mod that only the nightly wagon PT does,

Cybernetic Shell III was chosen!

For the rest of the day and night phase, anyone who has an item will be immune to kills by anything other than elimination.

If doots count as items, then everybody would have been immune to kills except for:

tictac
Sara
Yume
Enchant
Toogeloo
marcistar

[Dunnstral]

Are there no augments today?

[Dunnstral]

Actually I believe augments have always came out 24 hour after day start, and we are almost at that mark for today. So we can be expecting an augment selection shortly IMO

[Dunnstral]

marcistar, how does jan killing people help us?

We don't know what alignment toog was

[Dunnstral]

Dunn I am going to shoot you
Beware.
Be scared
Be very afiadd

[Dunnstral]

For the augments, I imagine verdant veil makes everyone immune to roleblock or redirects for the night. Remember that beeboy flipped redirector already.

[Dunnstral]

“ New Recruit: Gain plus one team size.”

New Recruit augment has been selected! Scum team have gained an additional member.

-Frog

So far all of the augments seem to have been for towns benefit; I'd imagine New Recruit would help the town more than the mafia, though I'm not sure how.

[Dunnstral]

@Dunnstral what has Vivax been like in your hood? Did you know he scumreads you?

Silence, and then I said the fredrick wagon was weird and vivax countered with saying all the wagons were weird

[Dunnstral]

HEAL: New Recruit

[Dunnstral]

I don't know how we didn't realize that forming the legends hydra was not a good idea the first time?

[Dunnstral]

town: me, legends 2

scummy?: nomsy 2

Are you... not paying attention?

[Dunnstral]

Yume just copied all of Legend's powers

So now they're a doublevoter-bp-bodyguard-bp/gives vest, plus whatever other abilities they had, plus malakitten's role

[Dunnstral]

You called legends 2 town and nomsy 2 scummy

It's the same person

[Dunnstral]

It feels like mafia have been killing during the day instead of at night.

Which would indeed mean that marci performed an extra kill

[Dunnstral]

The person who was controlling nomsy 1 is dead town

[Dunnstral]

The last time I talked about Nomsy's identity in this thread was post 693 on August 25th - 18 days ago

The last time I talked about it in a pt was August 28th in our best friends pt over the night phase.

So no, I haven't been "focused on finding out who controls Nomsy ever since the game started", and it's not my "pivot point of interest"

[Dunnstral]

But yes Dunnstral is pointing out things that now seem obvious.

It wasn't obvious to some people... which is why i was pointing it out

[Dunnstral]

So, Yume is a role copycat of sorts. Tinfoiling much, what if they gained the role of the players they killed?

@Yume

How did you target somebody that was dead?

[Dunnstral]

Is there a reason we've collectively ignored tictac?

[Dunnstral]

Hey wait, don't vote me out. You should unvote me with Nomsy

[Dunnstral]

Well I'm not going to wait around for you; not sure if I'm dead or not. If I'm not dead I'll be back in ~6 hours with stuff to share. I'm not sure what the rush is but that is a pretty poor move if you're town (which seems likely to me)