Micro 1060: Radiology Mafia [Game Over]
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i think ausuka actually had a valid lead onto radical rat there, though the more ausuka explained it the more boring it got.
radical rat "investigating the night kill" and winding up with the conclusion that its me, okay yeah maybe that makes sense in their eyes, but i feel as if they should've taken a step back after being wrong on juice and... at least taken longer..? They got onto me a too quickly (like.. a few hours after thread opened), I feel like they didn't actually reevaluate anything at all. Would you not expect "oh maybe since I was wrong on Juice (152, 181, 211) I should think more before jumping the gun"? Instead they're just continuing on with an old thought. theres no way this wasn't premeditated.. or are we just choosing to allow no lessons learnt from the juice elim
this is also something I can't wrap my head around, literally... who else was at much risk yesterday phase other than me and juice..? no matter how much I tried to get herta, it never took off. me or juice were pretty much the only viable options unless something changed, which we didn't get a chance to see if it would.In post 339, Radical Rat wrote:My thinking was that he was widely townread, yes, but that having a widely townread slot alive to push wagons on Town would be quite good for scum, and they could kill him later on once he stopped being useful.So I find it more likely scum felt threatened by him in some way,and while he was indeed pushing me the most verbally...his vote was on marci.
i'm only one person, why would scum!me feel threatened by him out of everyone here..? I'm always voted in games, its natural, I'm used to it so I'm unsure where the conclusion of me being threatened by it comes from : P scum could make pretty much any kill and be pretty "safe".
In post 341, Radical Rat wrote:the only issue is that I don't really know who the partner could be. I'm obviously townreading someone I shouldn't be, but even so for now marci's the only one I'm comfortable voting.
this is bs honestlyIn post 396, Radical Rat wrote:I'm mostly in the same position as before, though I do have a nervousness that Aisa might be pocketing me, I don't really want to confront that until there's more reason to suspect her otherwise
theres no intent to solve beyond the most basic thing !! only one suspect even tho tHeRe MuSt Be A pArTnEr!@!@!!
It's just really... constantly only doing whats easy..?
juice was easy, I'm easy, the aisa thing I think would be pretty easy to get people on considering how most people seem generally in that direction (★ ★) but maybe its just I don't see how aisa could possibly be trying to pocket you?
I think if radical rat was really town here, they could be doing more productive things with their time than just zoning in on one person at a time : P
I think posts like (212, 225, 341 371) are defensive.
I considered the point that ausuka could just be trying to play me like a violin, but I don't feel like thats as likely. I don't feel like its a rewarding thing to waste your time doing (getting me on your side), since from ausukas experience with me, I'm a bit unpredictably crazy : P-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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1. Yes, I was wrong about Juice. So was half the game, and Juice was an anomaly by actively playing against the game, up to and including xyr self hammer. It's why I haven't put any effort into wagon analysis, Juice undermined whatever could have been learned by that by refusing to elaborate on anything when asked, and hammering xyrself instead of making someone else pull the trigger. I don't regret voting there, nor do I think there are any useful lessons to be learned. Had Juice played Mafia instead, xe probably would have lived for one, but if they hadn't and if it were my fault, yeah I probably would have stepped back to reevaluate things after.
2. You being the main alternative to Juice is kind of... the point? I don't understand how you being in danger is a refutation to the argument that you felt threatened.
3. You're right that I'm not really putting much effort into this game yet. Haven't found the spark that motivates me to get serious yet. However I disagree that I'm just doing whatever the easy thing is. For instance, if you're such an "easy" push, why isn't anything happening? Seems like it'd be easier to take the hint and pick on Herta or Meg, yeah?-
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Juice was an easy push for scum to make because xe acted in such a silly way. I think there were definitely scum pushing that wagonIn post 406, Radical Rat wrote:Yes, I was wrong about Juice. So was half the game, and Juice was an anomaly by actively playing against the game, up to and including xyr self hammer. It's why I haven't put any effort into wagon analysis, Juice undermined whatever could have been learned by that by refusing to elaborate on anything when asked, and hammering xyrself instead of making someone else pull the trigger. I don't regret voting there, nor do I think there are any useful lessons to be learned. Had Juice played Mafia instead, xe probably would have lived for one, but if they hadn't and if it were my fault, yeah I probably would have stepped back to reevaluate things after.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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So you think my scumread is bad and that because I'm pushing a read which is NAI I am scum?In post 398, Aisa wrote:scumread marci, therefore you must be scum".
- However, both town and scum can have bad justification for their reads, so bad justification is actually approximately NAI.
- You pointed out the bad justification and seemed uninterested in contemplating a world in which this bad justification came from town.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Radical Rat They/ThemJack of All TradesThey/Them
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Or they saw what was happening and knowing xe would likely go down without them pushing it stayed off of it. Actually now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps I should be going back and looking for unnatural defenses of Juice... I'll follow up on this laterIn post 407, Ausuka wrote:
Juice was an easy push for scum to make because xe acted in such a silly way. I think there were definitely scum pushing that wagonIn post 406, Radical Rat wrote:Yes, I was wrong about Juice. So was half the game, and Juice was an anomaly by actively playing against the game, up to and including xyr self hammer. It's why I haven't put any effort into wagon analysis, Juice undermined whatever could have been learned by that by refusing to elaborate on anything when asked, and hammering xyrself instead of making someone else pull the trigger. I don't regret voting there, nor do I think there are any useful lessons to be learned. Had Juice played Mafia instead, xe probably would have lived for one, but if they hadn't and if it were my fault, yeah I probably would have stepped back to reevaluate things after.-
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I mean, I just disagree. There were definitely people who acknowledged bad play does not mean scumIn post 409, Radical Rat wrote:
Or they saw what was happening and knowing xe would likely go down without them pushing it stayed off of it. Actually now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps I should be going back and looking for unnatural defenses of Juice... I'll follow up on this laterIn post 407, Ausuka wrote:
Juice was an easy push for scum to make because xe acted in such a silly way. I think there were definitely scum pushing that wagonIn post 406, Radical Rat wrote:Yes, I was wrong about Juice. So was half the game, and Juice was an anomaly by actively playing against the game, up to and including xyr self hammer. It's why I haven't put any effort into wagon analysis, Juice undermined whatever could have been learned by that by refusing to elaborate on anything when asked, and hammering xyrself instead of making someone else pull the trigger. I don't regret voting there, nor do I think there are any useful lessons to be learned. Had Juice played Mafia instead, xe probably would have lived for one, but if they hadn't and if it were my fault, yeah I probably would have stepped back to reevaluate things after.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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And there's people who acknowledged that and also acknowledge that the way juice was playing is more likely to come from scum than town.In post 410, Ausuka wrote:
I mean, I just disagree. There were definitely people who acknowledged bad play does not mean scumIn post 409, Radical Rat wrote:
Or they saw what was happening and knowing xe would likely go down without them pushing it stayed off of it. Actually now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps I should be going back and looking for unnatural defenses of Juice... I'll follow up on this laterIn post 407, Ausuka wrote:
Juice was an easy push for scum to make because xe acted in such a silly way. I think there were definitely scum pushing that wagonIn post 406, Radical Rat wrote:Yes, I was wrong about Juice. So was half the game, and Juice was an anomaly by actively playing against the game, up to and including xyr self hammer. It's why I haven't put any effort into wagon analysis, Juice undermined whatever could have been learned by that by refusing to elaborate on anything when asked, and hammering xyrself instead of making someone else pull the trigger. I don't regret voting there, nor do I think there are any useful lessons to be learned. Had Juice played Mafia instead, xe probably would have lived for one, but if they hadn't and if it were my fault, yeah I probably would have stepped back to reevaluate things after.
The only person who really defended Juice at all was Marci and IthinkHiraki somewhat. I do think that the way marci defended juice was probably +town, but that's pretty much the only thing going for town!marci atp fmpov.Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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Sorry I'm not feeling this game. Or mafia in general really right now.
I'm not getting the nuances that are being pointed out regarding ausuka by aisa and radical rat. I'm also not getting ausuka's positions on aisa and radical rat fwiw. My eyes are just glazing over at some of these posts. It does appear that aisa and radical rat are not necessarily tied but in the same ballpark? It feels that way anyway and makes me lean toward voting one of them.-
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literally how do i make sense as scum at allIn post 411, MegAzumarill wrote:but that's pretty much the only thing going for town!marci atp fmpov.-
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Is it just me or does the above post not make much sense?
That is a pretty fair summary, yes.In post 408, Ausuka wrote:
So you think my scumread is bad and that because I'm pushing a read which is NAI I am scum?In post 398, Aisa wrote:scumread marci, therefore you must be scum".
- However, both town and scum can have bad justification for their reads, so bad justification is actually approximately NAI.
- You pointed out the bad justification and seemed uninterested in contemplating a world in which this bad justification came from town.
Like I'd never say that pushing a read which is NAI means someone is scum in itself, but the way you are pushing it seems scummy, yes.-
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How do you feel towards marci's wall? Admittedly I haven't looked super hard into their meta as different alignments, but do you think marci would produce something like that as scum?In post 411, MegAzumarill wrote:
And there's people who acknowledged that and also acknowledge that the way juice was playing is more likely to come from scum than town.In post 410, Ausuka wrote:
I mean, I just disagree. There were definitely people who acknowledged bad play does not mean scumIn post 409, Radical Rat wrote:
Or they saw what was happening and knowing xe would likely go down without them pushing it stayed off of it. Actually now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps I should be going back and looking for unnatural defenses of Juice... I'll follow up on this laterIn post 407, Ausuka wrote:
Juice was an easy push for scum to make because xe acted in such a silly way. I think there were definitely scum pushing that wagonIn post 406, Radical Rat wrote:Yes, I was wrong about Juice. So was half the game, and Juice was an anomaly by actively playing against the game, up to and including xyr self hammer. It's why I haven't put any effort into wagon analysis, Juice undermined whatever could have been learned by that by refusing to elaborate on anything when asked, and hammering xyrself instead of making someone else pull the trigger. I don't regret voting there, nor do I think there are any useful lessons to be learned. Had Juice played Mafia instead, xe probably would have lived for one, but if they hadn't and if it were my fault, yeah I probably would have stepped back to reevaluate things after.
The only person who really defended Juice at all was Marci and IthinkHiraki somewhat. I do think that the way marci defended juice was probably +town, but that's pretty much the only thing going for town!marci atp fmpov.-
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i can be honest and tell u the only reason i made that post was that i got prodded and i actually had time-
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I also don't super like the idea of pushing Marci for that reason, the more I think about it the less.... idk the less sportsman like it is? If Marci's town here I don't wanna punish them for putting forth effort.Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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Today is my last day of work for the week, and I am making an official promise to get in here and effort properly over the weekend once I have more spoons on offer-
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Overall its alright I guess. I could see scum!marci making that in defense but I do also think it can be town.In post 418, Aisa wrote:
How do you feel towards marci's wall? Admittedly I haven't looked super hard into their meta as different alignments, but do you think marci would produce something like that as scum?In post 411, MegAzumarill wrote:
And there's people who acknowledged that and also acknowledge that the way juice was playing is more likely to come from scum than town.In post 410, Ausuka wrote:
I mean, I just disagree. There were definitely people who acknowledged bad play does not mean scumIn post 409, Radical Rat wrote:
Or they saw what was happening and knowing xe would likely go down without them pushing it stayed off of it. Actually now that I'm thinking about it, perhaps I should be going back and looking for unnatural defenses of Juice... I'll follow up on this laterIn post 407, Ausuka wrote:
Juice was an easy push for scum to make because xe acted in such a silly way. I think there were definitely scum pushing that wagonIn post 406, Radical Rat wrote:Yes, I was wrong about Juice. So was half the game, and Juice was an anomaly by actively playing against the game, up to and including xyr self hammer. It's why I haven't put any effort into wagon analysis, Juice undermined whatever could have been learned by that by refusing to elaborate on anything when asked, and hammering xyrself instead of making someone else pull the trigger. I don't regret voting there, nor do I think there are any useful lessons to be learned. Had Juice played Mafia instead, xe probably would have lived for one, but if they hadn't and if it were my fault, yeah I probably would have stepped back to reevaluate things after.
The only person who really defended Juice at all was Marci and IthinkHiraki somewhat. I do think that the way marci defended juice was probably +town, but that's pretty much the only thing going for town!marci atp fmpov.Imprefection is the spice of life.-
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In post 401, MegAzumarill wrote:So aisa you think this push on RR is disengeuous here? Could you elaborate on that more@aisaImprefection is the spice of life.-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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So why can't I believe that the way RR pushed marci coming into the day, pinning the Hiraki kill on her right away, is scummyIn post 417, Aisa wrote:Is it just me or does the above post not make much sense?
That is a pretty fair summary, yes.In post 408, Ausuka wrote:
So you think my scumread is bad and that because I'm pushing a read which is NAI I am scum?In post 398, Aisa wrote:scumread marci, therefore you must be scum".
- However, both town and scum can have bad justification for their reads, so bad justification is actually approximately NAI.
- You pointed out the bad justification and seemed uninterested in contemplating a world in which this bad justification came from town.
Like I'd never say that pushing a read which is NAI means someone is scum in itself, but the way you are pushing it seems scummy, yes.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.
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