Election! | GAME OVER

[furtiveglance]

Maybe SleepyKrew isn't so towny. Content matters

[Lady Lambdadelta]

im ready to turn my brain off and just sheep lld for elim 1

OH HELL YEAH BROTHER

[SleepyKrew]

Maybe SleepyKrew isn't so towny. Content matters

now this post I don’t mind.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

don't ask me to lead, you're the one who got elected mayor

i dunno getting elected made me worried that my reads r dogshit bad rofl

[SleepyKrew]

Pooky pretend that I won the election

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats not how reality works my dude

[SleepyKrew]

you've got 172 posts but can't make 1 to humor me? smh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mayor sleepykrew can you get off your ass and do something becuz ive been snowed in for three days now

[Herta]

I'm a little bit frustrated that you weren't around to have this out with 2 days ago when the discussion would have been relevant to elections, btw. I understand RL got in the way, just annoying that we couldn't already have this part of the mech shit behind us.

This seems unnecessary.

[Herta]

Okay I'm prepared to follow LLD down the path.

[Ausuka]

Proper catchup coming, but for now I would like to express my surprise at Ausuka only having 1 vote, and that vote being a recent replacement. During earlier phases it felt like a lot of people were vocally calling Ausuka scum. Wonder what's changed

no thoughts head empty

k

[Datisi]

my opinion on things related to this game is the same as last night

slightly townier on guiltylion, because i think it's pretty evident this town is utterly lethargic and going nowhere and i'm not sure why he tries to like, actually do things if he's scum here

unless he's scum with specifically unowen, which. meh idk i don't think it's particularly likely

also i think the thing that would help this game a lot is a flip and a night phase so if the people with no votes could actually vote someone that would be very pog

[meowth]

my feeling is players with that particular playstyle dont usually react to wagons by suddenly becoming easier to read.

What do you mean by "that particular playstyle", and if pressuring or wagoning them does not make them easier to read, what do you believe

does

make them easier to read?

if you actually wanted to lim nono id prefer to do it towards the end of the day as i dont think it would be a particularly informative elimination if nono is town (this is colored by my read on nono which was basically pure null).

snip

nothing makes them easier to read, that's why i prefer vca

i dont even necessarily think that nono would be an informative elim if nono is scum, i just think limming scum is good. it doesnt need to be informative

its less informative because if nono is town they are such limbait that its going to be really hard to tell apart scum who want an easy lim from town who just think nono is a fine place to land. i fundamentally disagree that it is more difficult to fake a read on a limbaity player, that is a really surprising take.

besides, i think you are missing my point a bit. wagons elsewhere before limming nono is what i was looking for if we did indeed end up limming nono (slot, now). i would rather focus on sorting players who are easy to sort rather than trying to sort the hardest to sort players. a strong town block of even 3 players can definitely win a game themselves.

and once again, moot point since the fen has been actively scummy since replacing in

[meowth]

meowth do you have scumreads outside unowen?

furtiveglance - mixed signals at the moment, not null, just some things i like but a couple holding me back from a full town read

pookythemagicalbear - so far there is nothing that absolutely couldnt be scum pooky, but he will sort himself eventually. just going to assume town until i have evidence to the contrary

datisi - feeling town for reasons already described

bingle - leaning town as i think most of the reads he gave are reasonable

sleepykrew - i dont remember anything sleepy has done

actiondan - town read from our limited interaction

enchant - i am very interested in applying pressure here tomorrow. im not scum reading anything enchant has done in particular but the votes make me very suspicious. i am very curious to see what happens at night

ausuka - ill be interested in going back and looking at all the interactions with ausuka after we have some flips, but there are a couple things that make me think she is more likely to be town than not

save the dragons - scummy entrance into the thread, thinking scum with unowen is very possible

guiltylion - likely town imo, i do feel like gl is actually trying to sort me as opposed to how unowen is going about interacting with me

lld - has done nothing of note, which i think is nai as either alignment. same approach as with pooky, town for now

herta - waiting for catchup, no real thoughts at the moment. easiest way to sort herta at the moment is for someone to tell me if scum herta declares treasurer or not.

unowen - scummy for reasons discussed, plus providing basically no content since then except attacking me to try to slow their own wagon.

sircakez - theres nothing i have seen from cakez i particularly dislike, going to give him space to get going.

bloodb0t - i didnt like 981, like really really didnt like, but dont feel like pushing a pr is likely to go anywhere and id rather focus on unowen at the moment

[Enchant]

meowth do you have scumreads outside unowen?

enchant - i am very interested in applying pressure here tomorrow. im not scum reading anything enchant has done in particular but the votes make me very suspicious. i am very curious to see what happens at night

meowth just downed in town points

[UNOwen]

What a scummy read list from meowth

also i think the thing that would help this game a lot is a flip and a night phase so if the people with no votes could actually vote someone that would be very pog

Yes agreed, let’s not drag this out to deadline just for the sale of it please.

[UNOwen]

*sake

[SirCakez]

Like, this is transparently Bingle wanting to get their hands on the rules of the game to dictate it, even if it's strictly worse from a probability standpoint.

I'm perfectly capable of running mech and maths.

I don't know if this is scum indicative for Bingle since this feels like the thing Bingle prides themselves on but...

Yeah, no. there's 0 good reasons this needs to be public at this moment.

Okay I feel like this is scum indicative for Bingle though? If he's a mech mastermind he should recognize that we don't need to dump all this information now. Ferreting it out seems pretty antitown.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, this is transparently Bingle wanting to get their hands on the rules of the game to dictate it, even if it's strictly worse from a probability standpoint.

I'm perfectly capable of running mech and maths.

I don't know if this is scum indicative for Bingle since this feels like the thing Bingle prides themselves on but...

Yeah, no. there's 0 good reasons this needs to be public at this moment.

Okay I feel like this is scum indicative for Bingle though? If he's a mech mastermind he should recognize that we don't need to dump all this information now. Ferreting it out seems pretty antitown.

I agree, but then my brain says "is Bingle the kind of player who would feel isolated and left out by not having access to the game mechanics?"

Because in HotD I felt the same, you know. It's hard not to view a desire to be in the loop through that lens a bit.

But it's definitely not a townie movie. It's just a question for me of if this is scum motivation or townie jealousy.

[SirCakez]

Like, this is transparently Bingle wanting to get their hands on the rules of the game to dictate it, even if it's strictly worse from a probability standpoint.

I'm perfectly capable of running mech and maths.

I don't know if this is scum indicative for Bingle since this feels like the thing Bingle prides themselves on but...

Yeah, no. there's 0 good reasons this needs to be public at this moment.

Okay I feel like this is scum indicative for Bingle though? If he's a mech mastermind he should recognize that we don't need to dump all this information now. Ferreting it out seems pretty antitown.

I agree, but then my brain says "is Bingle the kind of player who would feel isolated and left out by not having access to the game mechanics?"

Because in HotD I felt the same, you know. It's hard not to view a desire to be in the loop through that lens a bit.

But it's definitely not a townie movie. It's just a question for me of if this is scum motivation or townie jealousy.

Who did you feel that way about? I don't see Bingle in HotD playerlist

[Lady Lambdadelta]

meowth do you have scumreads outside unowen?

furtiveglance - mixed signals at the moment, not null, just some things i like but a couple holding me back from a full town read

pookythemagicalbear - so far there is nothing that absolutely couldnt be scum pooky, but he will sort himself eventually. just going to assume town until i have evidence to the contrary

datisi - feeling town for reasons already described

bingle - leaning town as i think most of the reads he gave are reasonable

sleepykrew - i dont remember anything sleepy has done

actiondan - town read from our limited interaction

enchant - i am very interested in applying pressure here tomorrow. im not scum reading anything enchant has done in particular but the votes make me very suspicious. i am very curious to see what happens at night

ausuka - ill be interested in going back and looking at all the interactions with ausuka after we have some flips, but there are a couple things that make me think she is more likely to be town than not

save the dragons - scummy entrance into the thread, thinking scum with unowen is very possible

guiltylion - likely town imo, i do feel like gl is actually trying to sort me as opposed to how unowen is going about interacting with me

lld - has done nothing of note, which i think is nai as either alignment. same approach as with pooky, town for now

herta - waiting for catchup, no real thoughts at the moment. easiest way to sort herta at the moment is for someone to tell me if scum herta declares treasurer or not.

unowen - scummy for reasons discussed, plus providing basically no content since then except attacking me to try to slow their own wagon.

sircakez - theres nothing i have seen from cakez i particularly dislike, going to give him space to get going.

bloodb0t - i didnt like 981, like really really didnt like, but dont feel like pushing a pr is likely to go anywhere and id rather focus on unowen at the moment

Besides, I have a so much worse player to murder

Vote: Meowth

This is an attrocious reads list. On all notes. But MOST OF ALL.

this is literally a scum claim. "done nothing of note" Lie. "NAI as either alignment, like Pooky. ... TOWN FOR NOW?"

Kill this with fire, please.

[SirCakez]

Save the Dragons - why do you find Ausuka so scummy? I think she's one of the towniest players in the game.

[SirCakez]

not doing anything but defending yourself and not hunting for scum is not alignment indicative?

asking others to explain their dubious reads on me is not hunting for scum?

Got scum pings from this post. This feels like the kind of defensive BS I post when I get pushed as scum.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Bingle
I want to start this wagon. I don't really feel any town vibes from Bingle's posts. I don't like how he's treating the mechanics of this game. I get the feeling he is trying to manipulate things in scum's favor.

UNowen is not going to make it anywhere near to LyLo anyways so I don't feel like that wagon is doing much.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, this is transparently Bingle wanting to get their hands on the rules of the game to dictate it, even if it's strictly worse from a probability standpoint.

I'm perfectly capable of running mech and maths.

I don't know if this is scum indicative for Bingle since this feels like the thing Bingle prides themselves on but...

Yeah, no. there's 0 good reasons this needs to be public at this moment.

Okay I feel like this is scum indicative for Bingle though? If he's a mech mastermind he should recognize that we don't need to dump all this information now. Ferreting it out seems pretty antitown.

I agree, but then my brain says "is Bingle the kind of player who would feel isolated and left out by not having access to the game mechanics?"

Because in HotD I felt the same, you know. It's hard not to view a desire to be in the loop through that lens a bit.

But it's definitely not a townie movie. It's just a question for me of if this is scum motivation or townie jealousy.

Who did you feel that way about? I don't see Bingle in HotD playerlist

No I mean in HotD I felt that way.

I was excluded from the mechanics by our King and spent 4 days literally checked out of the game despite apparently post game having disgusting reads and being 5/5 on my stated town block day 1.

I checked out of the game for a few reasons but the major one was essentially people saying "nah we'll keep the game in this circle and away from you"

So I KNOW what it feels like to like... be excluded and want to look in.

But it's also strictly wrong.

the question for me is : "Is bingle arrogant enough to think his input is better than cold mathematics?"