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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:38 am

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So, do I reply here with my role to confirm I am playing.

10th
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Post Post #66 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:28 pm

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VOTE: elements[

quote=Elements post_id=13823000 post_num=20 time=1687964255 user_id=32224]
I'd you're excited to play with furtive, can I persuade you to vote Tweet?
As furtive is already predisposed to do so
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I am.disposed to vote for you
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Post Post #208 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:36 am

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In post 93, Elements wrote: When I'm scum I really enjoy day 1
Geraintm isn't enjoying day 1
Therefore geraintm is scum
Am I scum every game?
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Post Post #209 (isolation #3) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:36 am

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In post 98, humaneatingmonkey wrote: gerain is a known and identified grouch
I'm a delight Day 2
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Post Post #211 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:39 am

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In post 127, Elements wrote: I get excited on day 1
Shooting their load way too early
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Post Post #213 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:41 am

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In post 153, Elements wrote: Given what you've previously said about Gera, why do you think a wagon there would accomplish anything?
I am literally the worst player to ever wagon
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Post Post #217 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:52 am

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In post 161, clidd wrote: For others, I still need more time/content to form reads.

To be honest, the slot worth of pressing as it is notorious from his scumgame to vanishing is Gera.

That said,

VOTE: geraintm

@Geraintm
What are your takes on the game?
I have none
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Post Post #221 (isolation #7) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:01 am

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In post 169, clidd wrote:
In post 163, Klick wrote: Have you played with gera before clidd? Do you know much about him as a player?
Yes, I did. My previous game was with him on Mini 2273 (viewtopic.php?t=89555).

He was scum there and did basically nothing significant on D1.
I am 100% scum this game then
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Post Post #234 (isolation #8) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:30 am

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I have zero interest in eliminating Oopsie today
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Post Post #247 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:27 am

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In post 237, clidd wrote:
In post 234, geraintm wrote: I have zero interest in eliminating Oopsie today
Right, that's a start.

And what about Tweet/Klick/HEM?

Briefly reading the game, do you feel the same way?
No thoughts on them
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Post Post #275 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:16 pm

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In post 254, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 234, geraintm wrote: I have zero interest in eliminating Oopsie today
Where does your elusive interest lie?
I'm reading a half decent murder mystery
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Post Post #276 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:18 pm

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In post 265, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: geraintm
Ooh, I like this
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Post Post #278 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 12:19 pm

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In post 267, humaneatingmonkey wrote: VOTE: Takutai
Naughty point
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Post Post #292 (isolation #13) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:50 pm

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In post 280, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 278, geraintm wrote:
In post 267, humaneatingmonkey wrote: VOTE: Takutai
Naughty point
Thanks for noticing me.

Can you describe how naughty I was, gerain?
You are the naughtiest person here so far
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Post Post #293 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:51 pm

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In post 289, Roden wrote: I wish I could read Geraintm, but figuring out his alignment is like playing a slot machine and the house always wins
I believe I am easily solvable as scum as thr game progresses
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Post Post #314 (isolation #15) » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:16 am

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In post 294, Roden wrote:
In post 293, geraintm wrote:
In post 289, Roden wrote: I wish I could read Geraintm, but figuring out his alignment is like playing a slot machine and the house always wins
I believe I am easily solvable as scum as thr game progresses
Would that mean that it's difficult to solve you when you're town?
I mean I think I am really obvious when I am scum as the game grows longer.
And enough people are confused by me that no one should ever leave me to drift into an end game.

I clearly trip up some people when town though, they think I am being scummy and doing scummy things
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Post Post #315 (isolation #16) » Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:18 am

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In post 309, Greeting wrote:
In post 234, geraintm wrote: I have zero interest in eliminating Oopsie today
Why?
They talk so much.
If scum they'll give themselves away at some point.
If town, then I want them posting.

Like a reverse Not Mafia

Thanks for asking.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:00 pm

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In post 358, Emperor flippyNips wrote: Gera = what’s his name
I'm townie? Then I must be getting better at this game.
And also means I will get killed tonight.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #18) » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:02 pm

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In post 387, Elements wrote: VOTE: Roden
In post 386, Elements wrote: Idk who to vote
2 minutes there to make a decision?

Naughty point
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Post Post #477 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:39 pm

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In post 410, clidd wrote: I have OopsieDaisy, Tweet and Klick as likely town.

Greeting and Roden are fine.

Null is pretty much most of: Elements, Emperor, Takutai, Furtive and HEM.

Scumlean is Karma.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #20) » Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:12 pm

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In post 592, Takutai wrote: VOTE: geraintm

On a re-read geraintm seemed townier than Emperor. That's like deciding which of a durian or a marula is more of a fruit.
I cannot parse this post
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Post Post #641 (isolation #21) » Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:17 pm

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In post 591, Elements wrote: VOTE: EFN
In post 589, Takutai wrote: VOTE: Emperor flippyNips
In post 588, Roden wrote: VOTE: Nips
In post 587, clidd wrote: VOTE: Emperor flippyNips

Are you alive?

My god this isn't pure, but it is Still likely only 1 out of 4 and still no better than random
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Post Post #705 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:47 am

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I got nothing.
There aren't even any wagons for me to.object to.

Can we draw straws now for who goes?
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Post Post #709 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:48 am

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In post 706, humaneatingmonkey wrote: you have no one you want to keep, gerain?
I said previous OopsieDaisy I have no jntention of voting for
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Post Post #796 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:06 am

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In post 754, humaneatingmonkey wrote: oh shit the hype is fucking real

Monkey
Oopsie
Emperor
Klick
Elements
Takutai
geraintm

Fucking yes let's flip the burger
Is this a reads list? Am I most townie or least townie?
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Post Post #843 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:08 pm

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In post 841, Klick wrote: What an interesting couple of pages
I'm.glsd.you.think so.

Just want the flip
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Post Post #845 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:49 pm

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In post 844, Klick wrote: Then why aren't you voting?
Because there is no one I think has better than random odds of being scum
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Post Post #968 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:42 am

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In post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers
Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last game
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Post Post #983 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:10 am

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In post 970, Elements wrote:
In post 968, geraintm wrote:
In post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers
Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last game
Interesting comparison seeing how last game went down
what, we outed two power roles, had another townie lying? it was awful, we just got really lucky with the Vig and Scum not shooting right. That was a bad day 1 for town
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Post Post #998 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:01 pm

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In post 996, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Curiouskarmadog
I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:45 pm

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In post 1014, Takutai wrote:
In post 997, Elements wrote: VOTE: Roden
In post 998, geraintm wrote:
In post 996, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Curiouskarmadog
I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....
Fragment of my pet team strike again, this time elements decides tk vote town Roden after monke's 'everyone just do what I say' post and geraintm, like oopsiedaisy, really doesn't want us voting Karma.

Going off of what oopsie and elements have been pushing for, if monke is town, this roden momentum is to make monke look very bad, as monke said. For instance, look at earlier elements wanting to lock the vote between Roden and monke.
You 100% miss the point of my post if you think I don't want people voting Karma.
I was merely noting the vote, how it was trying to change the direction of the game and how itnwill look post flips and I thought it needed looking at
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #31) » Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:54 pm

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In post 1189, curiouskarmadog wrote: okay no one asked yet...but here we go, general thoughts on everyone.

Gera, its null, they havent done anything, the only thing that is different this game (I meta-ed them the last game) is that they havent complained as much about Day 1 sucking this game. the only thing to note is that for someone who doesnt like Day 1, they had a chance to end it by hammer Roden. IF Roden flips scum, Gera is suspect. if Roden flips town, Gera looks townish.

OD, it hurts me to say you are in my top 3 scum suspects. maybe it is play style, but I find myself making excuses FOR you. I dont like your interaction with Tweet. Leaning tweet/OD scum team. The only thing that is stopping my vote, is I DID suspect you last game and you were town. you are killing me with the "to be honest" posts. if you flip scum, I will never let a "to be honest" post slide again. you seem opportunistic. I want you to scum hunt, you seem like you are coasting on others.

Elements, it could be residue effects from the last game, but have been back and forth on you in the read. most of your jumps on wagons look bad, but you have had a couple where I thought "hmm, would scum do that?". going to put a pin in this for now. need to see some flips.

Greeting, ugh...null too. hops in, does a little dance party full of questions and light-thoughts...jumps out again. didnt hammer Roden (follow back up if there is a Roden flip). I need to see more from this slot.

EFN/nips, normally I would say cut this slot. BUT that was what we did last game, and he was a VIG, and basically won the game. so at a loss. he seems to be my hype man which I like. but I also like my ego stroked. given his current content in the game, I dont think he should see endgame. Do better EFN.

clidd, also part of the "to be honest" club (man I will be horrible to live with if both you AND OD are scum together). I am leaning scum/null here. Hasnt done much. Hasnt made waves. also coasting. Also have trouble understanding they "why" behind his reads.

Roden, ugh..I think a lot of info COULD come from this slip. But I think he is town...if he flips scum, I look bad, but....it is what it is. I wont be voting him today, will see if that end up killing me today. I hate the self vote. if I found a game where are scum he self voted, I would jump on this wagon, HEM homework?

Tweet, in my top scum picks. one part OMGUS one part he just seems scummy. I will have to go back and reread the WHY behind that. but just kept thinking during the read, "wow he is scummy" and mentally put him in my scum pile. I dont like his interaction with OD.

Tak, HATED THAT SLOT early game, liked MUCH more in the later game. I feel like at one point you have tweet on a "townlock" which I dont understand or like. (need to reread that). leaning town.

Fur, also top scum pick. HEM nailed it, no soul in this game. Votes a lame, stances are phoned in. I want to see him push a case. coasting. says he doesnt like a thing, then does that thing. hiding in plan sight scum.

HEM, closest thing to a town read I have. too much power though, if he IS town, scum is no doubt scared of him...or maybe not, if Roden is town, they might love him. I think I need to read a HEM scum game. at any rate, not going any where Day 1

Klick, null pile with EFN (Nips), more like Greeting, comes in...does the hokey pokey, jumps out. who knows.

I would be down with a Fur, tweet, OD (sniff) wagon in that order. if a vote was needed, clidd as well.

going to iso those three though, and push a case tomorrow. with a vote.
Would have required me to have paid enough attention to realise they were 1 vote off
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #32) » Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:47 pm

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In post 1212, Roden wrote: Surely we don't actually No Elim today...
Do it!
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:00 am

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Present.
I've got nothing to bring to thr table
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:17 am

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In post 1339, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1337, geraintm wrote: Present.
I've got nothing to bring to thr table
It not Day 1 anyone. the is a bucket of information.

at what point do you think your have something for the table?
i was checking in quickly was all

i looked at the votes to see if anthing made sense, but not really. roden really didn't help themselves, and Takutai went from Curious to no vote to the hammer. there is almost nothing to go on there.

i would normally look at the reasons people gave for their votes, but there wont be anything from the roden wagon
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:08 pm

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In post 1390, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1376, geraintm wrote:
In post 1339, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1337, geraintm wrote: Present.
I've got nothing to bring to thr table
It not Day 1 anyone. the is a bucket of information.

at what point do you think your have something for the table?
i was checking in quickly was all

i looked at the votes to see if anthing made sense, but not really. roden really didn't help themselves, and Takutai went from Curious to no vote to the hammer. there is almost nothing to go on there.

i would normally look at the reasons people gave for their votes, but there wont be anything from the roden wagon
The only thing you think could possibly be helpful is Rodens wagon and even that isn't useful?

I don't get it, what exactly are you using to determine alignments if not that wagon

I get that a lot of ppl weren't exactly on board with it but ppls opinions are still theirs and they still make AI choices
I like making use of actual actions, votes, I like to see if people's votes were consistent with their other ones, if they look out of place, if they are attempts to alter the flow of the game.

But that wagon yesterday doesn't help at all.

I'm not clever enough to go off of feelings on how people are playing and that making them scum
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Post Post #1462 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 1411, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1376, geraintm wrote:
i would normally look at the reasons people gave for their votes, but there wont be anything from the roden wagon
So you have no suspicion at all?

What are your stances on Daisy?
What are your stances on Greeting?

and for giggles.

where do you stand on HEM?
Not really. Like....no one has stood out to me as having done anything overly bad. Just the normal stuff, no one has had to raise their heads over the parapets.

I've read the last two pages and there is nothing anyone has argued that is anywhere near convincing.
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Post Post #1477 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 am

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@oopps

Yeah, I could sew a vote for Furtive.
There is an attempt at content and reads, but it doesn't look good, plucking names out of the air with zero to back it up.
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:36 pm

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In post 1479, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1477, geraintm wrote: @oopps

Yeah, I could sew a vote for Furtive.
There is an attempt at content and reads, but it doesn't look good, plucking names out of the air with zero to back it up.
This is outrageously hypocritical.
Sorta yes.
I hadn't been trying to make reads on people though , I was just being useless
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:37 pm

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In post 1486, Elements wrote: I can vote Gera
Oh, everyone can vote me. I know I am offering nothing to this game, but I cannot fake reads.
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:37 pm

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So, im going to go through Furtive's posts now and show why i thought they were plucking reads from nothing
In post 963, furtiveglance wrote: I don't like that votecount at all.

Clidd, Greeting or geraint wagons anyone?
vague post just wanting to push at 3 random people
In post 967, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 964, Elements wrote:
In post 963, furtiveglance wrote: I don't like that votecount at all.

Clidd, Greeting or geraint wagons anyone?
Clearly not
Join something that's actually going to happen
I'll vote CKD over Roden if I have to

now willing to vote Curious, but i don't know why. - they follow this with a vote for Curious
In post 999, furtiveglance wrote:

I genuinely think Roden's townier. I don't have to agree with the perceived consensus...
an opinion on Roden, but zero to explain why
In post 1308, furtiveglance wrote: Ok I think ckd's recent posting has been towny. Especially interactions with Greeting.
no explanation why Curious is townie now. Also doesnt unvote

Next Day
In post 1366, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1359, clidd wrote: That said, the individual I'd like to talk to at this point is Furtive.

Other than the suspicion expressed about me, there haven't been any other *expressive* instances to check out his perspective on the game.

VOTE: furtiveglance

What are your current impressions? (apart from my slot, of course).
You and Greeting remain my biggest scumreads. I'll go back and look at what Takutai was saying, I feel like they weren't really a UTR so maybe killed for their reads.
Saying CLidd and Greeting remain top of their scum reads, they hadnt mentioned them for a long time. ive been dropped . still unsure why on Day 2 they are top of their list

1378 - actually gives a reason on why GReeting is Scum - stiff, lifeless and push on them is calculated.
then votes Greeting
In post 1441, furtiveglance wrote: It's interesting to see how fast that Greeting wagon took off compared to my push on clidd yesterday.

I'm gonna vote clidd and see what happens.

VOTE: Clidd

wait... they unvote because they dont like the wagon?

{side note, if Greeting comes back green i will immediately vote Furtive just for this}
In post 1466, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1465, Elements wrote: @furtive if you're so set on clidd, who are the other scum?
Greeting, Geraint, maybe Emperor

I'm not sure
next post, just starts pushing more people, still with no reasoning.


So, that is why i said there is an attempt at content, but they have basically been plucking names from the air and have zero to back it up

people happier with why i didn't like Furtive now?
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #41) » Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:05 pm

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Any wagon on me won't go through today. Scum know that the push is just because I appear An easy elimination , but they'll have to explain themselves tomorrow when I flip green.
They won't be able to.
They'll save me for later in the game and assume they can get me then and take out a stronger player now.
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:44 am

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In post 1528, Emperor flippyNips wrote: Karma I knew was gonna have giant wall post that would show how they’re town.
Then from what I remember of daisy she feels like she felt in my last game which was very transparent with her thoughts and generally leading in the right direction. Karma thought she was scum there as well.

That being said with daisy I’m not sure what her scum game is like so I am cautious of her. If she’s pointed to green too many times I would rethink her but it’s day 2 so not quite there yet. Also with karma sring her again creates some wifom for me (it did previous game too) but I stuck with leaving her in my town pool and it worked out
I am.gicing oops the benefit of thr doubt about their scum.game till.i see otherwise
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:45 am

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In post 1529, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1526, geraintm wrote: Any wagon on me won't go through today. Scum know that the push is just because I appear An easy elimination , but they'll have to explain themselves tomorrow when I flip green.
They won't be able to.
They'll save me for later in the game and assume they can get me then and take out a stronger player now.


I mean. If you go through today it’s not gonna be just scum on you. So who would be said scum that would have to explain themselves?
There will be enough there it will be awkward for them
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:46 am

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In post 1537, Elements wrote: VOTE: EFN
Naughty point
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Post Post #1554 (isolation #45) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 1545, curiouskarmadog wrote: man I posted this twice by accident, but still didnt acknowledge.
In post 1500, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1493, geraintm wrote:
In post 1479, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1477, geraintm wrote: @oopps

Yeah, I could sew a vote for Furtive.
There is an attempt at content and reads, but it doesn't look good, plucking names out of the air with zero to back it up.
This is outrageously hypocritical.
Sorta yes.
I hadn't been trying to make reads on people though , I was just being useless
why not replace out?
This is day 2. A BUNCH of shit has gone one....still no thoughts?
I have given some?
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #46) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:00 am

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In post 1555, curiouskarmadog wrote: Are you voting someone?
No
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #47) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:24 pm

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@ Morning Tweet

"@gera Why do you assume that scum has to vote you, and like, how are you expecting the town to explain themselves tomorrow from a gera!town lim?"
i
because i just assume scum would have to vote for me, i think i've played with enough people in this game that a 100% town majority to vote me off isn't going to happen.

town would just go "dur, geraint is useless, lets vote them out" because i know i havent done anything scummy they can really point to, it would just have to be a vibe thing
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Post Post #1601 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:01 am

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In post 1583, OopsieDaisy wrote: o shit there's 20 hours until the day ends
Really?
VOTE: furtive
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #49) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:35 am

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In post 1628, Elements wrote: VOTE: Ccs
I don't understand this
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:50 am

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In post 1632, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 1629, geraintm wrote:
In post 1628, Elements wrote: VOTE: Ccs
I don't understand this
I do
Care to enlighten me, because it just looked a really random vote for no reason
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Post Post #1698 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:47 pm

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In post 1697, Elements wrote: VOTE: Gera
yeah, need more than that from you.

So far from you,
i see you were on the Day 1 wagon which eliminated a townie.

You were on the Furtive wagon day 2 at the start, but you did a really, really weird vote on EmperorFlippyNips when their wagon was getting half serious

and ended up on camelCasedSnivy who also was the end elimination and was also townie.

For those paying attention, the following were on both end wagons

Klick/Save The Dragons
Elements
CuriousKarmaDog
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:44 pm

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In post 1699, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1698, geraintm wrote: and ended up on camelCasedSnivy who also was the end elimination and was also townie.
bro
gd im an idiot.
ok, recalibrating
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Post Post #1702 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:46 pm

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In post 1682, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 1681, Morning Tweet wrote: Pseudo vote: Camel/Greeting

Commuter is a scum claim
I will respect it

VOTE: snivy
So, realising that we hit scum with the vote yesterday, just realised that Scum self voted and hammered themselves yesterday ?!
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Post Post #1707 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:57 pm

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the only alternative in day 2 was furtive? creating another wagon on someone else wasn't a goer so scum sacrificed Camel?
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:04 am

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In post 1710, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1698, geraintm wrote:
In post 1697, Elements wrote: VOTE: Gera
yeah, need more than that from you.

So far from you,
i see you were on the Day 1 wagon which eliminated a townie.

You were on the Furtive wagon day 2 at the start, but you did a really, really weird vote on EmperorFlippyNips when their wagon was getting half serious

and ended up on camelCasedSnivy who also was the end elimination and was also townie.

For those paying attention, the following were on both end wagons

Klick/Save The Dragons
Elements
CuriousKarmaDog
LOL.....

this is cute.
you say cute, i say mortifying.
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Post Post #1731 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:06 am

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In post 1711, curiouskarmadog wrote:

"Im going to need more from you"
yes, but give me time. i woke up to the game restarting and did a little post. not my fault that post was usless.

well, it was my fault.... :)
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:07 am

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In post 1714, humaneatingmonkey wrote: gerain hallucinating a gamestate and trying to solve from that gamestate? i guess i can read it town. at least he shows being uninformed and scumhunting initiative.

can i read it scum? maybe he's engaged in some high-level play-dumb tactics. I'm not sure that's likely.

guys i think gerain is town.
if anyone can find any evidence i am that good a player to fake that as scum, please and i will see myself out
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Post Post #1734 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:11 am

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In post 1721, curiouskarmadog wrote:

more likely than not he is disinterested town.

but at the very best he isnt bringing anything to the table, and the very worst, he is a distraction.
not disinterested, but when i made that post i was sitting with very little info to go on. for once we havent had a whole slew of town sots run up and claims forced from them, so for once the town PRs are keeping their info close to their chest.

I don't mean to be a distraction, and i will be trying to post more today when i see something
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #59) » Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:49 am

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Clidd doesn't feel exceptionally scummy to me, they could be but feels very superficial
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Post Post #1809 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:47 am

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In post 1808, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1803, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1802, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1801, humaneatingmonkey wrote: furtive do you think Elements is scum
I don't think so, interaction with Greeting/Snivy looks good, and otherwise seem to be moving the game forward.
what interaction with the greeting slot made you think it was good?

why is moving the game forward = town. Wouldnut scum also want to move the game forward?
I guess scum could want to control the game by posting a lot, I just don't get why they'd then use that control to bus their teammate when there were other options.
I don't, let town make their own mistakes
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #61) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:48 am

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In post 1824, bob3141 wrote:
In post 1698, geraintm wrote:
In post 1697, Elements wrote: VOTE: Gera
yeah, need more than that from you.

So far from you,
i see you were on the Day 1 wagon which eliminated a townie.

You were on the Furtive wagon day 2 at the start, but you did a really, really weird vote on EmperorFlippyNips when their wagon was getting half serious

and ended up on camelCasedSnivy who also was the end elimination and was also townie.

For those paying attention, the following were on both end wagons

Klick/Save The Dragons
Elements
CuriousKarmaDog

This feels weird to me.

Germin can you explain what you mean by this post. As at this point snivy had already flipped scum.

And by the looks of it the day one roden wagon could easily have been town motivated as greetings showed no real interest in roden. Which tends to come from scum who are convident that the player will flip. This often happens when teh scum presence on wagon is rather light and its beign driven by vocal town players
Did you not see all the following posts where we all agreed this post never happened
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:28 am

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So, Klick/Dragon was 1st on the town Roden wagon
and was 4th on Camel's scum wagon

Clidd was 2nd on the town Roden wagon
and was on Furtive end of day 2 and is about to be replaced.

But i find it hard to beleive that Savethe dragon is/was scum with Camel.

STD could have pushed a different wagon and then Camel would not have needed to have voted. 2 votes somewhere else would have been very much game changing, and i am not going to vote STD today because of this.
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Post Post #1875 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:14 am

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In post 1873, bob3141 wrote: The gamestate im leaning towards gerain beign town lol. This situation reminds me of game long ago when town could decide on execution all the while gerain wasnt voting. I think scum gerain would have already come down on one side as his last scum game he was on most wagons
Elyeah, that does sound like me
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:08 am

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Camel wouldn't have been so despondent if they had a partner off wagon who they could have had help them divert thr wagon
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:25 pm

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In post 1879, Elements wrote: which I think would've been pretty obvious after Clidd getting flipped and I would've just been night killed so that's why I'm saying it now
At least you'll have 1 confirmed town tomorrow
Oh.
Well that is a spanner
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:30 pm

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Noting for later
In post 1717, furtiveglance wrote: I'm not sure whether the self-vote indicates more or less bussing, it was probably just triggered by no one unvoting after the commuter claim.

I think clidd and geraint are my top picks now.

VOTE: clidd
Their top two picks are half a mason and me.
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Post Post #1920 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:50 pm

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Summing up, nit voting for

Elements
The worst
For mason claim

And save the dragon because of how I think they could have interacted with the scum we caught
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #68) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:52 pm

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So that leaves

bob3141
curiouskarmadog,
Morning Tweet,
Bingle,
humaneatingmonkey
As people I am currently happy to vote for
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #69) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:03 am

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In post 1927, the worst wrote:
In post 1920, geraintm wrote: Summing up, nit voting for

Elements
The worst
For mason claim

And save the dragon because of how I think they could have interacted with the scum we caught
can you point me in the direction of what from Dragons was unaligned with camel?
I did it here
In post 1858, geraintm wrote: So, Klick/Dragon was 1st on the town Roden wagon
and was 4th on Camel's scum wagon

Clidd was 2nd on the town Roden wagon
and was on Furtive end of day 2 and is about to be replaced.

But i find it hard to beleive that Savethe dragon is/was scum with Camel.

STD could have pushed a different wagon and then Camel would not have needed to have voted. 2 votes somewhere else would have been very much game changing, and i am not going to vote STD today because of this.
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:04 am

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Claims are

Bob - investigator
Elements - mason
The worst - mason

For my notes
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #71) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:15 pm

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In post 2012, the worst wrote:
In post 1933, geraintm wrote:
In post 1927, the worst wrote:
In post 1920, geraintm wrote: Summing up, nit voting for

Elements
The worst
For mason claim

And save the dragon because of how I think they could have interacted with the scum we caught
can you point me in the direction of what from Dragons was unaligned with camel?
I did it here
In post 1858, geraintm wrote: So, Klick/Dragon was 1st on the town Roden wagon
and was 4th on Camel's scum wagon

Clidd was 2nd on the town Roden wagon
and was on Furtive end of day 2 and is about to be replaced.

But i find it hard to beleive that Savethe dragon is/was scum with Camel.

STD could have pushed a different wagon and then Camel would not have needed to have voted. 2 votes somewhere else would have been very much game changing, and i am not going to vote STD today because of this.
i just went over that slot's history with greeting & camel. it kind of looks like both klick and dragons hedged on greeting/snivy, then just joined the wagon once it had momentum which is like... a very safe bus. what part of it made you think they're not aligned?
If they were aligned, they would have fought much harder to save them. They could have pushed a plausible wagon together (and presumably a 3rd scum) butbdidnt.

This is why I have said I am not voting for them today
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Post Post #2022 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:16 pm

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In post 2020, the worst wrote: i agree we're better for bob having claimed and i don't think it's all that scummy a claim but i'm not married to it either

i really want gerrain to expand because i don't think gerrain is town?

pedit: mood
I wish you the best trying to get me eliminated.
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:17 pm

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I have to say, if there are indeed 3 mason in the game now feels like a great time to say, we should be able to narrow down who gets eliminated quickly enough to get a win
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #74) » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:38 am

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In post 2060, bob3141 wrote: gerain i doubt is scum as town gerain will just sit on his hands if his prefered exeution isnt up. A scum gerain is happy to bush and get his hands dirty. Fact gerain hasnt been on single scum execution makes it very likely he is town.
i need to remember this post next time i am town and i say i am easily solveable as scum as the game goes on.
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Post Post #2068 (isolation #75) » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:39 am

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i would prefer it not to be STD i think of the two, but bow down to better players solving this and am happy to go either way
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #76) » Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:44 am

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Sorry for not posting at all
I have no connection with thr game, and am happy to follow the wisdom of thr town
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Post Post #2182 (isolation #77) » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:40 pm

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VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

I said previously I am not a fan right now of voting savethe dragon, which means I should be on the other side
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #78) » Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:35 am

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Will not get to this soon, notntill tomorrow night at the earliest
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Post Post #2294 (isolation #79) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 1:59 am

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Quick post to explain my levels in this game.

I knew my roll meant I was nit going to be very much use to town, but I hoped at some point to get killed at night for some reason though unlikely, scum never want to kill me.

The success we had getting scum made my motivation to find scum dampen a bit, because it seemed like the good players in the game were doing well and I kinda assumed that as scum had to plow through masons, whatever other rolls town had outside that would narrow scum down into a tiny tiny pool and the game would be solved.

Not there though. :(
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Post Post #2295 (isolation #80) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:01 am

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Just realised of the 5 players left, only 2 of us started the game
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #81) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:46 am

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So, day 1 Bob wasn't on a green vote, the other 3 were on roden

Day 2, Bob didn't vote, everyone else was on scum

Day 3, Bob and the wlrst were on scum, the rest of us not voting

Day 4, me, the worst and save the dragon were on HEM who was town, Bob was on STd and curious was not voting.

Thoughts

Bob was not voting either the 1st 2 days, then voted scum Day 3 and STD Day 4.
Could be scum who bussed Bingle Day 3 and couldn't end up anywhere else

The worst is.mason (right, that claim.is still true?) So never voting there

Std and curious Karma have very similar voting records...but I have this long standing view that STd isn't scum because of how Snivy went down. Need to recheck that
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Post Post #2297 (isolation #82) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:07 am

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I made some notes about the 3 players ,going to write them up now

CURIOUS

1863 - picks clidd over std
Really wants a full claim from Bob
(Makes me think they and Bob are not aligned together)
They are really pushing at std
- but I don't see any evidence to back up their std read
2278 - throw s mud at bobs claim

Overall thought

They seem happy keeping me in thr game (I'm no threat)
But giving outs to vote me
Want to vote Std
Putting pressure on Bob
Basically, they can justify voting everyone left in thr game

Feels standoffish from the game, letting it happen around them
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #83) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:11 am

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Bob

Thoughts before I go through their posts: mafia have been picking off masons, but they have left thr town player with a claimed investigative roll alive, they feel very safe they are not going to get caught by them.

2056 - vote std
2058 - certain me and curious are town
(This leaves only std to vote for)
2060 - Bob knows me
203 - someone clever than me let me know if some masons, a mason finder and scum is balanced and fair
It seems a dull game, and I don't really understand the use of a mason finder to town

2156 - I don't understand why it imples a 3 mason team

They seem very sure it is Std, not looking anywhere else.
Wonder what they will do if Std comes up town and tomorrow is Bob, me and curious
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #84) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:12 am

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Save the dragon

1663 - this is the vote on snivvy that I am giving a ton of credit for. I'm notnsure why no one else looks at this the same way and comes to the same.concluesion

They cost through dayb3 with nothing memorable at all
2054 vote HEM

And I have no noted after this, I can't work out from the vote on HEM what they want to do
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Post Post #2300 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:14 am

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Thought

I rank them std and Bob as most town
Curious most likely scum.
Curious feels like the one who is trying to drifted by and get into a weird end game where I make the mistake
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #86) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:19 am

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In post 2305, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 2297, geraintm wrote:
Feels standoffish from the game, letting it happen around them
you typed this and didnt feel hypocritical at all?
Yes
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Post Post #2336 (isolation #87) » Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:20 pm

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In post 2322, the worst wrote: sheeping everyone else & never trusting my own instincts or logic again

gg everyone, was a fun one, thanks for picking this up shea!
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