Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Game Over!

[Aristeia]

I've already explained things that I wouldn't do as scum because I think they're minus EV but that's just self meta and there's no real way you can verify I'm telling the truth

[skitter30]

I don't think there's anything that I'm incapable of faking and I think it'd be violating the trust tell rule if I said I only do something as town and I can't fake it as scum.

Sorry i phrased poorly and should have said something like: anything in your iso that you feel points to town-you?

But fair enuf

I need to do my homework unfortunately i havent really ruled out any pairs

If i had to commit rn it would be like dats/dragon idk

[SirCakez]

Votecount 3.2

Not voting (5) - DragonEater70, Ausuka, Aristeia, skitter30, Datisi

(expired on 2023-09-12 16:12:00) remain until day end

Skitter30 is V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.
DragonEater70 is V/LA through Thursday, September 7.

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to reach a majority.

[SirCakez]

Prodding Datisi

[Datisi]

sorry about that, got a big exam tomorrow and this game is not very kind on the brainpower

has there been any movement since last time i posted? anyone got any questions for me? i'll read properly once i'm back home tomorrow but i'll prob be awake for the next 20 minutes so i can take a look at something if someone wants

[Aristeia]

good luck on your exam Dats <3

[DragonEater70]

K I'm bacl from V/LA

Am not dead yet right?

[DragonEater70]

So re: what are we doing? This is a very good question.

Right now I don't want to eliminate marci. I don't particularly think she is scum here and I haven't seen a convincing reason why she would be other than behaviours I have seen town marci do many times over. I think ari and dragon are more likely to be town.

I described my ari read in 653 and I don't think it's really changed tbh. I guess I liked her defending me, which potentially makes me pocketed but she felt like a heroine of justice saving the poor damsel in distress from evil datisi. I thought the elements/dragon slot could be scum for a long time, and that's like still possible? The turning point for me was when he like went in circles on the skitter read for a bit around 734; it feels very earnest and unplanned and stuff. Like just chaotic energy. I think 781 feels kind of good like he's with datisi on the detective team or something. I like his marci read also. I guess i am curious as to why he thinks my push on atsi is genuine? also i don't think i'm performative

Rn i do think it's in {atsi, skitter, datisi} as the most likely scenario. Could skitter and datisi be partners? I mean, maybe - it's not like impossible they would go to these lengths to distance. I think datisi knows skitter can take it and skitter knows datisi can take it. Datisi tying me to skitter felt weird and that would make sense if they were both scum. I think the main thing that makes me hesitate about this scenario is the way that, reading Datisi's ISO, I feel like with the gamestate the way it is he could just like... Go after other people in a way he's not been doing? Idk maybe I should be more hesitant to project the way I play scum onto other people, but I think most of the time scum datisi in this situation benefits from playing this more offensively, going after marci and me more aggressively etc. It creates more opportunities for him and most people instinctively townread more aggressive plays.

Datisi/atsi makes sense because the 'if we eliminate atsi today we are doomed and the world will end' is so ??? that i could see it as an attempt to like... make something so blatantly partnery that no one would ever think datisi would post it as a partner, which seems like a scumtisi thing to do. There isn't a lot here honestly because atsi hasn't had a massive presence in the game. I found it curious that datisi is saying he doesn't think skitter and atsi are partners, I guess, particularly as early as he did. I think skitter/atsi is like. Possible? I mean idk there's just not really a lot there.

Atsi could like maybe be town? I just don't get the sense there's much going on behind the scenes with atsi. I don't like how long he holds onto the miller thing as a substitute for a read on me, and a lot of his reads just feel... surface level I guess? Like he's doing the bare minimum. The push on marci can come from town, sure, but 845 kind of feels like he knows marci is limbait and is trying to push her for being ScummyTM rather than scum if that makes sense? So yeah idk i think atsi is probably the best shot at hitting scum today; at least trying to read skitter and datisi feels much more labyrinthine to me whereas trying to read atsi feels relatively straightforward lmao.

Okay I actually forgot about this whole Post

Um, I guess you could be town then?

Uuuhhhh I'll have to rethink this.

[DragonEater70]

Like I just really want to think Datisi is town because I don't wanna believe that a person is capable of faking that level of uninformed confusion as scum

[DragonEater70]

Like if Datisi is scum here I don't know if I should worship him or be terrified of him

[DragonEater70]

Which is why I'm PoE'ing into ari/Ausuka

[DragonEater70]

idk if anyone answered the question but yeah i know most of the players in the game including datisi and ari

Nice

[DragonEater70]

i tried to read the temporal lich thing and get something out of it but like that entire phase of the game was so wild i'm not sure i can. like genuinely what the fuck was going on

i guess maybe dragon's vote for 'scumreading your own slot is scummy' is overexplained but idek if that's confbias atp

It probably is confbias because I often overexplain stuff?

I've been called verbose and overthinking my posts in a marathon game which is really funny to me because I literally posted as fast as my fingers could type.

[DragonEater70]

if I'm mafia I just bring marci to elo because she might never vote and then I win by default

That sounds smart on paper but this applies to everyone else here I think? So I don't see hoe it clears you.

[DragonEater70]

i think i just overthought the dragoneater read in the first place

the thing he did with skitter can probably just be excessive self awareness in hindsight?

I do not really feel like it is datisi/aristeia

I would consider voting here but if skitter like Really Thinks it's dats/ari it is probably best not to I guess but i'm just not sure i see it

I don't Really Think it honestly

I'm leaning towards ari scum rn, that's all i got
Idk who kills marci, these nk's are bizarre

You are right, wouldn't you be a better nightkill?

[DragonEater70]

Fuck I just realized maybe it's Datisi who didn't want to kill you because it would be too obvious?

[DragonEater70]

Idfk

[DragonEater70]

I'm hedging because I'm town and I'm uncertain

Dude

This is such a scum thing to say

[DragonEater70]

If I'm scum I don't really need to keep multiple avenues open to say oops after a mislim because a mislim ends the game

Wha

I can't be the only one who sees how this reasoning is crazy right?

[DragonEater70]

I don't think there's anything that I'm incapable of faking and I think it'd be violating the trust tell rule if I said I only do something as town and I can't fake it as scum.

If you said it once it wouldn't be violating the rule, from how I understand it. It's only when you consistently say that this is a rule / something you do/don't do, and actually abide by that rule, that it becomes an issue.

[Aristeia]

did you want a response to any of that?

[DragonEater70]

Sure?

[DragonEater70]

Why is the game dead

[DragonEater70]

It's been over 24 hours with one post from someone other than me

[Ausuka]

the marci kill is bizarre regardless. i mean maybe scum just was incredibly confident and thought it would be funny?