TemporalLich's Grandest Idea uPick [Game Over]

[Eiralox]

and bingre and iten voted wheme because i'm starting to think maybe having zzzx as possible last ditch deep wolf, and to prevent scenario where no scum except maybe enchant is on the wheme wagon. also if wheme didnt happen with koba alive chances are bingle and maybe maybe itenerants wouldve happened. enchant took one for the team, they were planning around it.


it's all pretty straightforward only place where im not sure on is xxxz so far but i got time so *shrug* see ya'll

[Eiralox]

So if Enchant HAD done that, who was likely to go over in Wheme's place? Looking through the VCs... Eiralox was the primary wagon before Wheme

i'm gonna analyze this sentence. the premise is: Enchant and Eira aligned.

VC 2.14

WhemeStar

(7)

- Gamma Emerald, Cook, DkKoba, Bingle, pisskop, Itinerants, Enchant

[EXILED!]

Eiralox (1) - Not_Mafia
Itinerants (1) - Eiralox

Not voting: KatyKimFanClub, MegAzumarill, WhemeStar, ZZZX

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Deadline is frozen at 2 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until a replacement is found.

KatyKimFanClub is V/LA until Tuesday.

On WhemeStar:

Gamma Emerald: Scum Partner?
Cook: Scum Partner?
DkKobA: Departed Doctor
Bingle: Respected Member of Town
pisskop: A deity among mortals
Itenerants: Respected Member of Town
Enchant: Heartbroken Bamboozler and Eira's pal in crime

Aren't Eira's partners Cook and Gamma? Bingle and Itenerants have only been talking about Eiralox since Day 2 except when Bingle voted Cook so this is a guessing game. A bit hard with such limited info for me as a humble traitor to find my buddies.

So we gotta look at the people ain't voting then?

KatyKimFanClub: Scum Partner?
MegAzumarill: Basically cleared by a deity so uh.... No?
WhemeStar: Ded
ZZZX: Scum Partner?

Ok no... Hmmm who's left?

Not_Mafia: Jacksonvirgo?
Eiralox: Maybe there are only two scum, you know?



Who is it then? Who voted Wheme to save me when probability is Bingle would have gone over if wheme convinced Koba instead of deciding enough was enough down with books. Cook and Gamma? Has to be. who else? I mean i do love puzzles.

anyway.

i wanna hear from other people insteada havin to type so counternarrative this i guess

[TemporalLich]

VC 3.2

Eiralox (2) - Bingle, Itinerants
Itinerants (1) - Eiralox

Not voting: Titus, JacksonVirgo, MegAzumarill, pisskop, Cook, Gamma Emerald, ZZZX

With 10 alive it takes 6 to exile.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2023-10-23 17:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I still haven't read properly, can't make my brain focus on it, but I did skim, and... I'm struggling to find real scumreads tbh. Which tells me the slots that lurked out are pretty likely places to look.

Enchant's martyrdom is also very interesting. His role PM doesn't inform of the Lovers aspect, but he did directly reference it with the hammer, so it was a conscious decision that it was worth the trade. Antispew is a weak excuse, because Enchant COULD have backed up the mason fakeclaim instead and coasted off of that for at least a day or two.

So if Enchant HAD done that, who was likely to go over in Wheme's place? Looking through the VCs... Eiralox was the primary wagon before Wheme, I recall having scumpings on IAVH early game, and apparently there's a VT claim?

VOTE: Eiralox

I'd like to know what exactly the role that allegedly got replaced with VT for you was. I assume Lich gave you your slot's picks?

I got my slots picks
Btw did my predecessors claim them? I didn’t see it in the ISO when I first joined

[Gamma Emerald]

idk about bingle.

iterants is fine enough wagon ig

bingle is an easy read. just check bluensek iso. consider that bingle doesnt care about the town. then check what i mentioned day 2: bluesnek bussed itenerants and enchant both to create 'distance' before repping out.

???
Are you claiming bluesnek deliberately voted somewhere with the intent of replacing out and creating distance with it? That’s rule-breaking if you’re correct so that’s a serious allegation.

[TemporalLich]

As a friendly reminder, please avoid out-of-game influences and please avoid accusing other players of the same.

[Eiralox]

idk about bingle.

iterants is fine enough wagon ig

bingle is an easy read. just check bluensek iso. consider that bingle doesnt care about the town. then check what i mentioned day 2: bluesnek bussed itenerants and enchant both to create 'distance' before repping out.

???
Are you claiming bluesnek deliberately voted somewhere with the intent of replacing out and creating distance with it? That’s rule-breaking if you’re correct so that’s a serious allegation.

what? i'm saying bluesnake voted enchant and itenerants as bus votes. as in to seem normal later on but it stuck out to me due to iten tone. just read what i said about bluesnake day 2. and that's a minor thing anyway just tone stuff i noticed mostly, way it occurred. no idea what you talking about.

all that matters is who bingle and itenerants think are scum and why. because so far for two days all they've done is strategically decide when to post while pushing me cos it seems that's the plan lol.

[Itinerants]

So if Enchant HAD done that, who was likely to go over in Wheme's place? Looking through the VCs... Eiralox was the primary wagon before Wheme

i'm gonna analyze this sentence. the premise is: Enchant and Eira aligned.

VC 2.14

WhemeStar

(7)

- Gamma Emerald, Cook, DkKoba, Bingle, pisskop, Itinerants, Enchant

[EXILED!]

Eiralox (1) - Not_Mafia
Itinerants (1) - Eiralox

Not voting: KatyKimFanClub, MegAzumarill, WhemeStar, ZZZX

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Deadline is frozen at 2 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes until a replacement is found.

KatyKimFanClub is V/LA until Tuesday.

On WhemeStar:

Gamma Emerald: Scum Partner?
Cook: Scum Partner?
DkKobA: Departed Doctor
Bingle: Respected Member of Town
pisskop: A deity among mortals
Itenerants: Respected Member of Town
Enchant: Heartbroken Bamboozler and Eira's pal in crime

Aren't Eira's partners Cook and Gamma? Bingle and Itenerants have only been talking about Eiralox since Day 2 except when Bingle voted Cook so this is a guessing game. A bit hard with such limited info for me as a humble traitor to find my buddies.

So we gotta look at the people ain't voting then?

KatyKimFanClub: Scum Partner?
MegAzumarill: Basically cleared by a deity so uh.... No?
WhemeStar: Ded
ZZZX: Scum Partner?

Ok no... Hmmm who's left?

Not_Mafia: Jacksonvirgo?
Eiralox: Maybe there are only two scum, you know?



Who is it then? Who voted Wheme to save me when probability is Bingle would have gone over if wheme convinced Koba instead of deciding enough was enough down with books. Cook and Gamma? Has to be. who else? I mean i do love puzzles.

anyway.

i wanna hear from other people insteada havin to type so counternarrative this i guess

I don't necessarily think the Wheme wagon was STARTED to save you. I think that Enchant was faced with a choice between getting to be fake-cleared as Mason for a bit but risking people swinging back onto you, and sacrificing himself but keeping the attention away.

-Rat

[Eiralox]

To quote DkKoba: Who's scum?

[Itinerants]

You, and probably a couple of the lurker slots.

RH says Bingle also.

-Rat

[Eiralox]

okay

[Itinerants]

okay

To be clear, Rat SRs you but I think you're probably nulltown.
~RH

[Eiralox]

noted

[Bingle]

I'd like to know what exactly the role that allegedly got replaced with VT for you was. I assume Lich gave you your slot's picks?

I asked for that literally a week ago and despite being completely impossible that knowing what role was not included in the game would benefit scum, Eiralox refuses to answer.

[Bingle]

Snip

This post sure looks like it might have analysis in it if it were actually written in a language I could understand.

[Eiralox]

anyone got anything to ask me i'll try to be around other than that it's pretty simple from here on out.

[Itinerants]

anyone got anything to ask me i'll try to be around other than that it's pretty simple from here on out.

I'd like to know what exactly the role that allegedly got replaced with VT for you was. I assume Lich gave you your slot's picks?

I asked for that literally a week ago and despite being completely impossible that knowing what role was not included in the game would benefit scum, Eiralox refuses to answer.

[Bingle]

anyone got anything to ask me i'll try to be around other than that it's pretty simple from here on out.

You mean other than the question I literally quoted two posts ago?

[Cook]

Hm. Dk’s defense was genuine?

Interesting.

I straight up don’t believe that eiralox has a role that was vetoed because of the sheer gamebreaking nature of my own role.

I don’t think massclaim is good because it is only actually a good option if scum doesn’t have some way to fuck with our abilities and it’s pretty much a given that any scum player submitted crazy strong scum roles.

Eir, what’s your itinerants case?

hold on a minute did you say your role is gamebreaking?

Why do you ask?

because i received an invention night 1 that was genuinely gamebreaking

and furthermore deliberately stated to be from the mafia

[Cook]

Hm. Dk’s defense was genuine?

Interesting.

I straight up don’t believe that eiralox has a role that was vetoed because of the sheer gamebreaking nature of my own role.

I don’t think massclaim is good because it is only actually a good option if scum doesn’t have some way to fuck with our abilities and it’s pretty much a given that any scum player submitted crazy strong scum roles.

Eir, what’s your itinerants case?

hold on a minute did you say your role is gamebreaking?

T Lich legitimately told me that I wasn’t allowed to use my role in a specific way because it would break the game. Eiralox’s slot claimed that they have a role that was vetoed as gamebreaking, thus making them a vt. I’m not going to go more in depth unless I have to, because being able to plan around my role is powerful for the scum team(s) but I’m pretty sure eir is and has been fakeclaiming. If tlich didn’t veto my role, I can’t imagine what did get vetoed.

it was because it would post the unredacted role pm's of every player who wasn't mafia if i used it, right?

because it would blow the setup wide open and break the game if i pulled that trolley lever, right?

[Cook]

and it'd kill me to use if i accepted and would be a free daykill for scum if i didn't, right?

[Cook]

you've been suspicious all game, bingle. you have been far from contributive to this game, and seeing the enchant flip, this really doesn't get any better for you

VOTE: Bingle

get this mafia scum out of my grandest idea upick right now

[pisskop]

hmmmmm.

I mean, the way I see it is that one of them flips red.

[Cook]

i didn't tell anyone about the invention at first because i thought it wasn't legitimate. "in a game with vetoed roles, there's no way that an inventor with 'reveal the setup' inventions would pass TLich. this is a trap to get me killed."

seems like it wasn't. the fact that i even had an option to refuse the invention was suspicious

[pisskop]

Id have to read to see if bingle was hinting at you to use whatever