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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:34 pm

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In post 573, Flavor Leaf wrote: there is scum taking the defense side of DV 100%. probably scum pushing them too, so that's fair.

but yeah, i'd say 1 scum on each side at least.
i really don't understand the scum incentive to defend me here, beyond keeping me around as a distraction, but if I can't be eliminated Day 2, then that sort of removes the benefit of having me around as a distraction.

Also I was dramatic with my post about you, but it was more in the interest of being light-hearted than claiming my intentions to work against the town or anything like that. Everyone is always so serious in these games!

I also was concerned that announcing myself as the host and triggering the elimination effect would be seen as a selfish move removing the option of town eliminating me Day 2 and possibly increasing chances of town wanting to eliminate me today.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:39 pm

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In post 573, Flavor Leaf wrote: there is scum taking the defense side of DV 100%. probably scum pushing them too, so that's fair.

but yeah, i'd say 1 scum on each side at least.
I actually agree with this for different reasons. Scum (most likely) prefer me but there's a clear upside to removing the 3p to scum as well.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:03 pm

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In post 617, Titus wrote:
In post 616, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 614, Titus wrote:
In post 592, Theta Alpine wrote: on the one hand i am not sure why cult would cc the 3p

but that was not actually a proper cc from titus now was it
This is scum. Hands down. My role is 100% a cc.
You're going to have to explain how "2/3 names are Town" conflicts with guessing names/conversions. Because it really doesn't seem to.
Because it tells me 2 out of 3 players haven't been converted...which is the same as what DV promises
No it isn't?

Knowing how many conversions have happened doesn't provide any information about specific players, only the current number of scum we're looking for, and even that isn't guaranteed since if DV guesses wrong it's not like we get a correction.

Knowing 2/3 players are Town doesn't provide any information on cult's numbers, except that there are at least two Town alive, which... if that ever weren't the case, cult would win anyway, so we don't need your role for that.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:27 pm

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In post 619, Titus wrote:
In post 618, Theta Alpine wrote: you are not really that much of a cop if you can only get psuedo-innos in a cult game
A parity cop is still a cop.

You are not town. Name 1 thing you've done beside try and save DV and push me.
what you claimed is not a parity cop, unless it actually says "these 2 are town and this third might not be"
I've heard of a role like what you've claimed, and the pool of 3 is entirely undifferentiated in that variant
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:56 pm

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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:57 pm

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In post 581, Radical Rat wrote: I fully expect DV to be hiding some aspect.

I don't think whatever he's hiding outweighs the benefits of leaving him be temporarily.
If I think he is hiding aspects of his role, I dont understand why you are trusting him so much to work with us?
In post 583, Flavor Leaf wrote: thing is, im not really as afraid of a cult hitting their action as a lot of you seem to be?

i feel like that's one of the key things in being able to read cult is finding out who they recruited.
I agree with this.
I've played and spectated enough games of "the traitors" to say that the good faction in those games seem to be more likely to win because in most cases it is easier to tell when someone does change their attitudes, even if it's slight, than it is to catch them if they manage to pocket enough town early.

Scum flips, even converted from town scumflips do genuinely help figure out partner equity I feel like.


In post 588, Flavor Leaf wrote: well, this was a fun day at the office.

glad i could cause a bit of a stir.

go nuts. imma play some bg3.
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In post 592, Theta Alpine wrote: on the one hand i am not sure why cult would cc the 3p

but that was not actually a proper cc from titus now was it
Yeah tbh it doesn't really feel like Titus' role directly CCs DV. They feel like they do very different things.
In post 628, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 619, Titus wrote:
In post 618, Theta Alpine wrote: you are not really that much of a cop if you can only get psuedo-innos in a cult game
A parity cop is still a cop.

You are not town. Name 1 thing you've done beside try and save DV and push me.
what you claimed is not a parity cop, unless it actually says "these 2 are town and this third might not be"
I've heard of a role like what you've claimed, and the pool of 3 is entirely undifferentiated in that variant
Titus' role feels like a weaker version of Seer (or Psychic I dont remember), that gives 3 names, 2 are town 1 isn't. This version feels weaker since we don't know every bodies real names, and due to conversions the results are only good for the day we receive them.
thomith could be a court jester

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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:15 pm

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That's not even the role Titus claimed, she claimed it gives her the names of 2 town and 1 question mark. Which is just giving a pool of three and saying there's at least two town in it. Could be three town. It's really only useful if one of the pool immediately gets flipped as non-town which would confirm the other two were town, at that point.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:21 pm

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@Thomith - Middle of Act 3.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:35 pm

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Liar. It's impossible to get out of act one. :igmeou:
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:13 pm

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Just wait until Act 6 Act 6 Act 6!
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:51 am

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In post 630, Thomith wrote: If I think he is hiding aspects of his role, I dont understand why you are trusting him so much to work with us?
I believe his wincon, but also think he might be hiding abilities to make himself appear weaker.
Wincon heavily incentivizes working with the Town, regardless of what he may or may not be able to do.
And even if he doesn't actively help us, he can still tank a conversion shot.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:54 am

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I will be here before deadline to vote for Titus if necessary
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:05 am

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I'm gonna need to adopt a new bestie since my mind control rays have encountered a technical hiccup in trying to reach Drew at the moment. :cry:

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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:16 am

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In post 637, Aureal wrote: I'm gonna need to adopt a new bestie since my mind control rays have encountered a technical hiccup in trying to reach Drew at the moment. :cry:

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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:31 am

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Why is voting Titus a bad idea?
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:41 am

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In post 639, Aureal wrote: Why is voting Titus a bad idea?
I meant the bad idea of trusting DV
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:13 am

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In post 632, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Thomith - Middle of Act 3.
Nice, still waiting for my D&D group to be around and for me to get internet in my new place to finish up Act 3.
I have way too many playthroughs up to the end of Act 2 though 😂.

I'm here (on and off) until deadline.
I'm still concerned that Titus is a compromise wagon that's just going to end up flipping town, but not sure what else to suggest this close to deadline.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:35 am

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In post 567, Radical Rat wrote: DeasVail needs to live.

Even if you don't believe his wincon, or his intentions, he's an extra chance for scum to miss.

The ONLY scenario in which we don't want DV alive at night is if he's actually cult fakeclaiming 3P.

And if DV is trueclaiming? Scum want him out because he's unrecruitable and incentivized to work with us. Arguing that scum wouldn't push him makes no sense because of that.

Titus' role doesn't CC at all, and I have no idea why she thinks it does.

This whole always eliminate 3P dogma is bullshit, even if Deas claimed SK I'd want him alive to generate flips and soak up recruits tbh.

If we are given any reason to suspect he's lied about any part of his role, we can eliminate him. Until then, I'd like to keep the odds of scum successfully recruiting as low as possible.

VOTE: NK15

I don't think everyone parroting the always kill 3P thing is scum, but I do think you're by far the scummiest one doing it.
Radical rats posting on the last few pages is pretty town and I like their arguments so I'm gonna sheep

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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:35 am

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Idk why FL is imploding lmao
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:37 am

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hm
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:38 am

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In post 640, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 639, Aureal wrote: Why is voting Titus a bad idea?
I meant the bad idea of trusting DV
So you don't object to Titus specifically?
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:38 am

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or Im still fine eliminating Titus she has seemed defensive and unmotivated all game
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:40 am

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In post 615, Titus wrote: Theta wants to lim the cop and save the 3p, which is 100% what scum want.

Theta has omgused since the start.

Theta is scum.
Your claim is not a cop
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:40 am

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In post 642, SirCakez wrote:
In post 567, Radical Rat wrote: DeasVail needs to live.

Even if you don't believe his wincon, or his intentions, he's an extra chance for scum to miss.

The ONLY scenario in which we don't want DV alive at night is if he's actually cult fakeclaiming 3P.

And if DV is trueclaiming? Scum want him out because he's unrecruitable and incentivized to work with us. Arguing that scum wouldn't push him makes no sense because of that.

Titus' role doesn't CC at all, and I have no idea why she thinks it does.

This whole always eliminate 3P dogma is bullshit, even if Deas claimed SK I'd want him alive to generate flips and soak up recruits tbh.

If we are given any reason to suspect he's lied about any part of his role, we can eliminate him. Until then, I'd like to keep the odds of scum successfully recruiting as low as possible.

VOTE: NK15

I don't think everyone parroting the always kill 3P thing is scum, but I do think you're by far the scummiest one doing it.
Radical rats posting on the last few pages is pretty town and I like their arguments so I'm gonna sheep

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Why are you moving your vote off the lead wagon? For some insane reason it's like 3 hours to deadline with a slot that's never made a post still not replaced.

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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:41 am

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