Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]
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Bingle Survivor
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VOTE: no elim
No discussion."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
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SirCakez he/himIs A Liehe/him
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VOTE: no elimBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Firebringer Trail Blazer
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Bingle was killed last night.He was a member of Shadow Garden.
Spoiler: Role PMShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Firebringer Trail Blazer
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Bingle left a last will:
I guess I have to play the game now that I am dead and I only have one more post.
Night Kill Analysis:
If Sir Cakez is mafia he shoots tired person because tired person wants to kill him.
If Penguin is mafia he shoots me so tired person votes Cakez or tired person to get me to vote for Cakez.
If tired person is mafia he shoots me because nobody will vote for me and nobody suspects him.
>> This was not actually useful for much other than ruling out Sir Cakez.
Rereading the game:
I wanted to do more rereading but I got lazy and didn't really do it. I did skim some of the conversations between Cephrir and Pooky and day one and it feels closer to scum theater than a genuine interaction. I don't think Cephrir really tried to kill Pooky at any point during day one. He didn't try to be persuasive and Pooky made no real effort to persuade him or shut him down like he did with Klick or Dunnstral.
Some of Penguin's interactions with Pooky feel almost too bold to be scum and scum? Pooky does like to live in boldness so maybe they are willing to openwolf together. I don't know.
Pooky pushing Cakez did not feel like scum on scum, from what I know of Pooky he likes to have his pushes on teammates be accompanied by theater such as how he talked with Gamma while pushing him. I agree with Sakura & Klick that the interactions between Pooky and Cakez largely clear Cakez of being a potential Pooky partner.
According to Klick's last will: never eliminate Sir Cakez or Katsuki(me) > do kill T3 and Penguin.
According to Sakura's last will: clear Sir Cakez and TP > Last scum is within jjh/PP/Wheme
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I also think Sir Cakez should be clear but I don't think it is clear Penguin should be the elimination. Rereading the game I think we may have given Cephrir/Tired Person too much of an easy pass into the endgame, I did not like how they changed their mind from cakez to jjh on the other day and I did not like their last post about treating them as confirmed town and claiming they would likely be killed if we no-elimmed while adding me in as maybe confirmed.
If I had to bet I would bet on tired person over penguin being mafia but it is close. I kind of want to vote out Penguin in the end because it would be bad if Klick had the right solve all along and we just forgot about it.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Last edited by Firebringer on Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:51 am, edited 2 times in total.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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tired person AnyGoonAny
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it would be nice if you guys vote each other because i don't like having to explain why i am town, and also i am obviously town for a bunch of reasons.
i still think it's probably sircakes but the fact that klick was correct on t3 and katsuki makes me think he could be right on sircakes and penguin as well. and also i expected sircakes to kill me, so being alive makes me think i might be wrong.I'm tired.-
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PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
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SirCakez he/himIs A Liehe/him
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I hate LiLo so muchBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I'm gonna have to do some rereading
I have reasons to think both of you are townie and scummy
I really thought it was Bingle after the hammer so I have to throw everything out...againBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Or you are alive because you weren't going to kill yourselfIn post 2959, tired person wrote: it would be nice if you guys vote each other because i don't like having to explain why i am town, and also i am obviously town for a bunch of reasons.
i still think it's probably sircakes but the fact that klick was correct on t3 and katsuki makes me think he could be right on sircakes and penguin as well. and also i expected sircakes to kill me, so being alive makes me think i might be wrong.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I know Pooky is watching with glee in the dead thread rn
He's ruined LiLo for me foreverBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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tired person AnyGoonAny
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i don't think you have even a single valid reason to think i am scum. if you are scumreading my low-content playstyle, not only is that hypocritical of you but i also have completed town games where i play that way so that's invalid. i also don't have any partnered interactions with scum.
can u even name a reason to vote me?I'm tired.-
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tired person AnyGoonAny
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i think this post (and other posts t3 made toward the end of the day) also clears me from being t3's partner. it's pretty obvious he was trying to undermine the townread on me in order to have me as a possible miselimination, probably because he saw that jjh (who was town) was thinking about eliminating me and he wanted to save himself by eliminating me instead.In post 2850, T3 wrote: TP also said that she's voting me exclusively because she wants to sheep 2 conftown (you and Klick)
I have explained that Klick townread me yesterday and I've explained that Sakura's scumread is rooted in vibes but TP is still voting me with no real explanation
and why would t3 even make all these posts if he was my partner:In post 2832, T3 wrote: That is well within Gamma's scumrange and probably within Ceph's tooIn post 2833, T3 wrote: Ceph's emotion felt genuine but on balance it's only a little +townIn post 2836, T3 wrote:
Usually scum exclusively or almost exclusively voting all their partners is more indicative of TMI than anything elseIn post 2835, Sakura Hana wrote:
I meant jjh, woopsIn post 2834, T3 wrote:
I don't think Ceph ever voted me - didn't he also vote BCG at one point??In post 2810, Sakura Hana wrote: Across Ceph's posting, he only ever voted, Pooky, Gamma and T3.In post 2838, T3 wrote:
TP has recently been ellitelling too - she asked jjh to towncase me, jjh said something to the effect of "I'll point the specific posts out to you at some point," at which point TP visited the site and posted elsewhere but didn't do anything here despite jjh's response.In post 2805, jjh927 wrote: Very much feels like they're trying to appear to be doing more than they are doing
but yeah if I'm going to respond to that request to towncase T3 then I will do it in real time, because I think I've set out quite succinctly what makes T3 town and it's there if you actually look for itI'm tired.-
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SirCakez he/himIs A Liehe/him
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Ok we all have interactions with dead scum that look town, Penguin hammered T3 when that elimination wasn't even guaranteed and multiple dead town have said that my interactions with Pooky couldn't be scum. I don't like that you're trying to assert yourself as clear here based on IMO less strong objective evidence then what I see from a neutral PoV on Penguin and myself.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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And I think it's weird that you're more concerned with clearing yourself first off the bat rather then thinking about who is the scum hereBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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tired person AnyGoonAny
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first, i disagree that there's more objective evidence for both of you.
second, i will have more time to read in depth and make up my mind on the weekend, i just want to make sure i am not hammered before then.I'm tired.-
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tired person AnyGoonAny
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saying that penguin has clearing interactions with anyone, or that his hammer is clearing, is a huuuuuuge stretch. if you actually take a look at the vc, the possibile eliminations on day 5 at the time penguin hammered were either him or t3. while i do think it's probably bad play that they crossvoted, it's not even close to clearing. the other option a scum penguin had was to let jjh or you hammer at deadline and be guaranteed to lose the next day.I'm tired.-
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tired person AnyGoonAny
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and again, you don't have reasons for me to be scum other than that you don't like the fact i'm playing to my win condition as town by attempting to increase the ev from 1/3 to 1/2 by clearing myself. which happened specifically after sakura cleared me and then pointed out how t3 tried to unclear me. it's not that i just randomly came up with the idea.
if i were scum you could actually find valid reasons to see me as scum instead of these silly "oh no you are trying to clear yourself" and "everyone else is cleared more than you are" (which isn't even true, objectively).I'm tired.-
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I'm not voting anyone for quite a while, I'm gonna be thinking about this a lotBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I haven't even done ISOs and rereading yetIn post 2971, tired person wrote: and again, you don't have reasons for me to be scum other than that you don't like the fact i'm playing to my win condition as town by attempting to increase the ev from 1/3 to 1/2 by clearing myself. which happened specifically after sakura cleared me and then pointed out how t3 tried to unclear me. it's not that i just randomly came up with the idea.
if i were scum you could actually find valid reasons to see me as scum instead of these silly "oh no you are trying to clear yourself" and "everyone else is cleared more than you are" (which isn't even true, objectively).
My posts so far today have been solely based on what's getting posted, I'm not making a serious argument one way or the other yet til I can actually do some analysisBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
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i wasn't scumreading your playstyle but thanks for assuming.In post 2965, tired person wrote:i don't think you have even a single valid reason to think i am scum. if you are scumreading my low-content playstyle, not only is that hypocritical of you but i also have completed town games where i play that way so that's invalid. i also don't have any partnered interactions with scum.
can u even name a reason to vote me?
ceph's play around pooky and gamma d1, whilst everyone else says is clearing, I think is the opposite given how he had a weak tunnel on pooky then was like "yeah, maybe i'm wrong." then is like, "yeah gamma scum i'll hop on" but then once gamma starts to take off vs. dunn hops off and says he feels "uneasy" and uselessly votes pooky until he peaces out.
what does give me pause is your play around t3's wagon because you easily could have gotten me pushed out that day since sakura was equally willing to vote either me or t3 and only voted t3 because he was the larger wagon.
you obnoxiously saying you're clear isn't ai, just obnoxious.
but then jinglebingle thinks you're scum over sircakez and i want to be lazy and just agree.
so i guess i'm gonna not be lazy and read cakez iso<(") | (")>
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