Mini Normal 2334: trees (Day 6)

[Thomith]

I won’t be voting Elements D1 unless something spectacularly scummy comes from her which I don’t anticipate.

just gimmi some time xx

I’d actually be really funny if you did something that pinged me so hard that I did a 180 like “get her outttt!!! I’ll drive the bus!!!!” lol

while you're here can i ask about your thought's on thomith?

Since you're insinuating your play in previous games should make it clear you're town here, can you explain how my play differs to how it usually does as town to make you suspect me?

[KayJayQueue]

I feel like being able to analyse how wagons are formed or deformed during the day is more beneficial in the long run for us than speed no limming, where mafia get a kill, and town may also not use their PRs correctly, as they don't have anything to base their choices off of.

When we start getting flips, seeing how wagons formed and deformed does provide us information we can use to help solve the game.

This is what I was trying to articulate earlier. I agree with this take, if anyone is wondering where I stand on this issue.

[Elements]

You have helped Scum narrow down PRs massively by what you just did (unless you are Scum obviously). I am struggling to not violate the insult rule at this point. I'm not replying to you anymore.

Getting into an argument you can't win and backing out before it makes you look bad, got it

[Elements]

Since you're insinuating your play in previous games should make it clear you're town here, can you explain how my play differs to how it usually does as town to make you suspect me?

So my read on you comes from the following things:

51 feel forced and like you've overly analysed what I consider to be a jokey start of game post that lots of players make. As if you felt like you had to back yourself up.

The way you came to Madman's defence kinda feels like defending a buddy (obvioulsy I'm biased on that one) especially given your reasoning in 86 which I can see as discrediting any future votes that might end up there.

The previous game stuff isn't meant to make it clear I'm town, it's to do with you calling my vote oppertunistic and the fact I'm always the most trigger happy throwing my vote around day 1 in any game I play.

[Elements]

Since you're insinuating your play in previous games should make it clear you're town here, can you explain how my play differs to how it usually does as town to make you suspect me?

I will say I liked 110
one of your more towny posts

[RationalMadman]

Outing role DP1 for no reason is antitown as fuck. Anyone who is not disgusted at that is just as bad unless they scumread it instead of assuming Town outed.

Oberbaalysing wagons is nonsense. Town unvote scum during DP1 wagons all the time and vice versa for joining wagons on Town. This is why later votes mean far more especially in clear this person vs that person dynamics. There, voting analysis begins to matter more.

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

[RationalMadman]

Overanalysing*

[Thomith]

Outing role DP1 for no reason is antitown as fuck. Anyone who is not disgusted at that is just as bad unless they scumread it instead of assuming Town outed.

Oberbaalysing wagons is nonsense. Town unvote scum during DP1 wagons all the time and vice versa for joining wagons on Town. This is why later votes mean far more especially in clear this person vs that person dynamics. There, voting analysis begins to matter more.

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

Let's say we have 2 main wagons day 1.

Player A flips scum Day 3 in this example, and was a major wagon on Day 1.
Player A is almost executed, but near the end of the day, the wagon shifts onto Town Player B.

After Player A does end up flipping scum later, we now have that piece of information that we can analyse to see a) why this wagon flip happened and b) We have information of the main people that drove the wagon away from Scum Player A, and try and figure out why, potentially finding another scumbuddy in the process.

[KayJayQueue]

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

If that is true, I honestly didn’t know the implication of that wording. I was just trying to make a joke. You could look through my other games and search that phrase, I’m fairly certain I’ve never encountered it. I’m still technically “new” so there are a few things I’m not completely familiar with when it comes to acronyms and keywords. If you’re going to scumread me for being uninformed on the lingo, okay, but it wasn’t a slip or whatever you’re insinuating.

[RationalMadman]

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

If that is true, I honestly didn’t know the implication of that wording. I was just trying to make a joke. You could look through my other games and search that phrase, I’m fairly certain I’ve never encountered it. I’m still technically “new” so there are a few things I’m not completely familiar with when it comes to acronyms and keywords. If you’re going to scumread me for being uninformed on the lingo, okay, but it wasn’t a slip or whatever you’re insinuating.

https://epicmafia.fandom.com/wiki/Bus
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bussing

[RationalMadman]

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

If that is true, I honestly didn’t know the implication of that wording. I was just trying to make a joke. You could look through my other games and search that phrase, I’m fairly certain I’ve never encountered it. I’m still technically “new” so there are a few things I’m not completely familiar with when it comes to acronyms and keywords. If you’re going to scumread me for being uninformed on the lingo, okay, but it wasn’t a slip or whatever you’re insinuating.

I townread you in general anyway and I am also certain that if you knew what the word meant you'd not have used the word bus there regardless.

[KayJayQueue]

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

If that is true, I honestly didn’t know the implication of that wording. I was just trying to make a joke. You could look through my other games and search that phrase, I’m fairly certain I’ve never encountered it. I’m still technically “new” so there are a few things I’m not completely familiar with when it comes to acronyms and keywords. If you’re going to scumread me for being uninformed on the lingo, okay, but it wasn’t a slip or whatever you’re insinuating.

https://epicmafia.fandom.com/wiki/Bus
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bussing

So I thought bus and wagon (I think I’ve also used the word train) were interchangeable words to describe people getting in a vote. I honestly had no idea. Thank you for the links I feel pretty dumb at the moment and I don’t really understand why no one else has corrected me on this faux pas.

[Thomith]

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

If that is true, I honestly didn’t know the implication of that wording. I was just trying to make a joke. You could look through my other games and search that phrase, I’m fairly certain I’ve never encountered it. I’m still technically “new” so there are a few things I’m not completely familiar with when it comes to acronyms and keywords. If you’re going to scumread me for being uninformed on the lingo, okay, but it wasn’t a slip or whatever you’re insinuating.

https://epicmafia.fandom.com/wiki/Bus
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bussing

So I thought bus and wagon (I think I’ve also used the word train) were interchangeable words to describe people getting in a vote. I honestly had no idea. Thank you for the links I feel pretty dumb at the moment and I don’t really understand why no one else has corrected me on this faux pas.

I'll be honest I outright didn't notice it.
I'm not sure how outdated these are but these may be useful too:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y:Glossary
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... reviations

[KayJayQueue]

Thank you for those, I need to bookmark them.

[Hu Tao]

I think elements may be town

[Hu Tao]

Outing role DP1 for no reason is antitown as fuck. Anyone who is not disgusted at that is just as bad unless they scumread it instead of assuming Town outed.

Oberbaalysing wagons is nonsense. Town unvote scum during DP1 wagons all the time and vice versa for joining wagons on Town. This is why later votes mean far more especially in clear this person vs that person dynamics. There, voting analysis begins to matter more.

Side note, very weird choice of words for Kayjayqueue to say driving a bus since that is solely used for one scum betraying a partner. Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

This seems like an overreaction. But so much of an overreaction that it may not come from scum

[Hu Tao]

No one I'd really standing out as a scumread so far I think this is the closest to one VOTE: salty

[DrNickRiviera]

I think elements may be town

I would tend to agree

No one I'd really standing out as a scumread so far I think this is the closest to one VOTE: salty

As much as I hate this non-committal play.....coming from you I think it kinda makes you town heh

[awesomeming327]

You have helped Scum narrow down PRs massively by what you just did (unless you are Scum obviously). I am struggling to not violate the insult rule at this point. I'm not replying to you anymore.

Getting into an argument you can't win and backing out before it makes you look bad, got it

This post in particular seems to have been made with bad faith

[awesomeming327]

rational's writing style is so goofy
it seems super stream of consciousness

Not sure what to even think of it as it is such a brutal slip it cannot be a real one.

this seems pretty unnecessary

actually to think about it the entire byplay between rational and kay about the "slip" seems really weird
like it seems too small of a deal for that big of a conversation

kind of meme but {kay rational elements} solve ez

[DrippingGoofball]

Dannflor and Kayjay are scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Everyone should want to end the DP ASAP. Mafia have too many reads already on who is PR and who scumreads who, you're making their life much easier by blabbing.

If we vote anyone it should be someone key to extending the DP and who is voting without a good reason.

Do you mean to post this in this game???

[DrippingGoofball]

Elements, I disagree with your premise that buddies will defend each other on day one. They are 100% more likely to throw each other under the bus.

[DrNickRiviera]

Dannflor and Kayjay are scum.

I definitely am leaning Kay that way, but I think Dann is solidly town here(in a world where Rational is scum though, I could see Dann as a buddy).

But what is giving you scum pings from Dann here?

Elements, I disagree with your premise that buddies will defend each other on day one. They are 100% more likely to throw each other under the bus.

I think this is a just a play style argument, I personally would be more likely to throw a little shade at a buddy on D1, but plenty others would try to find ways to defend their buddy as well.

[camelCasedSnivy]

holy shit i didnt even realize saltiest cactus was in this game????

UNVOTE: Thomith

VOTE: SaltiestCactus