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also i think its completely ridiculous to immediately point to "bussers" without a good reason, like only focusing on late voters or poorly explained votes that were at an awkward stage. I'd rather people be pushing me over people on wagon because its frankly annoying to see it happen consistently and be the wrong play over and over.
can there be scum on wagon purely? yeah
can there be scum off wagon purely? yeah
but thats never 100% and should be evaluated carefully, not with shortcutted assumptions.
like lets assume there are bussers - i think the assumption that thomith and black for example are bussers is completely ridiculous in context of their votes being swing votes to make awesoming a real wagon.
like if we analyze how wagons went down, I think it really does point straight at hu tao being red and it makes no sense to go anywhere else this day phase. it was hu tao vs dann at first then the hu tao wagon became the awesomeming wagon and was awesome vs dann -> and we know the alignments now of the 2 wagoners. I personally would not want to resolve wagons like this as info if i were scum, unless I was sure that keeping that person alive was more detrimental to my wincon than the info it might give town. this case is where hu tao fits in - only a hu tao team 100% of the time kills dann - granted there may be other micro reasons to kill dann there like a PR read, seeing as he did flip one, or that he is mostly clear due to being a counterwagon and RM having otherwise poor reads, but thats a fringe case that I don't think outweighs the evidence pointing towards hu at this point.-
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I think Dann was a fine kill knowing I'm town. Especially since he was a counter wagon to awesomeIn post 1372, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
this literally doesnt happen, i thought you were supposed to be one of the better scum players on the site?In post 1313, Black wrote: I think I agree that scum are trying to frame Hu. I don't really see Hu making that hit-
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ftfyIn post 1376, Hu Tao wrote:
I think Dann was a fine kill knowing I'm scum. Especially since he was a counter wagon to awesomeIn post 1372, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
this literally doesnt happen, i thought you were supposed to be one of the better scum players on the site?In post 1313, Black wrote: I think I agree that scum are trying to frame Hu. I don't really see Hu making that hit-
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I've played in a few games with neighborizer where the hood was open since game start, so if anyone here was hooded by dann, please, before the day ends, claim that you were hooded and if he had written in it if it was indeed open since game start.
otherwise I will assume scum got hooded here.-
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(also if it mismatches dann's stated reads on day 1, we can get an insight into the player who is in the hood to some extent)-
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to be clear, i claim I wasn't hooded here.-
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First of all rude. I'm decent but there's countless people better than meIn post 1372, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
this literally doesnt happen, i thought you were supposed to be one of the better scum players on the site?In post 1313, Black wrote: I think I agree that scum are trying to frame Hu. I don't really see Hu making that hit
I'm kinda shocked you think scum don't consider the ramifications of the kill when deciding who gets the bullet-
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Has everyone checked in? Because I do think it would be weird that someone wouldn't claim to be hooded......thought not sure what the nar is for that when being NK'edIn post 1378, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote: I've played in a few games with neighborizer where the hood was open since game start, so if anyone here was hooded by dann, please, before the day ends, claim that you were hooded and if he had written in it if it was indeed open since game start.
otherwise I will assume scum got hooded here.HI EVERYBODY!-
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I hard claim Hectic-altIn post 1380, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote: to be clear, i claim I wasn't hooded here.HI EVERYBODY!-
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Grovyle I'll give you a cookie if you tell me your main-
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I will agree with Black hereIn post 1381, Black wrote:
First of all rude. I'm decent but there's countless people better than meIn post 1372, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
this literally doesnt happen, i thought you were supposed to be one of the better scum players on the site?In post 1313, Black wrote: I think I agree that scum are trying to frame Hu. I don't really see Hu making that hit
I'm kinda shocked you think scum don't consider the ramifications of the kill when deciding who gets the bullet
Fedora, it does seem a bit that you are assuming how you would play things is exactly how others would play it.....never good to make these assumptionsHI EVERYBODY!-
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Last edited by tris on Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.here's what it says-
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Grovyle in a Fedora anyGoonany
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I speak from a lot of experience watching play and not just my own.In post 1385, DrNickRiviera wrote:
I will agree with Black hereIn post 1381, Black wrote:
First of all rude. I'm decent but there's countless people better than meIn post 1372, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
this literally doesnt happen, i thought you were supposed to be one of the better scum players on the site?In post 1313, Black wrote: I think I agree that scum are trying to frame Hu. I don't really see Hu making that hit
I'm kinda shocked you think scum don't consider the ramifications of the kill when deciding who gets the bullet
Fedora, it does seem a bit that you are assuming how you would play things is exactly how others would play it.....never good to make these assumptions
I have considered the ramifications - and the ramifications are that dann would be more likely to be alive in a town hu tao world.-
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Grovyle in a Fedora anyGoonany
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ergo at best you should say the kill has no bearing on what hu tao's alignment is, and I personally already believed hu tao was scum at eod1 and think their entrance to d2 was scummy-
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I guess you're right. It's just a gut feeling reallyIn post 1388, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote: ergo at best you should say the kill has no bearing on what hu tao's alignment is, and I personally already believed hu tao was scum at eod1 and think their entrance to d2 was scummy-
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if frame kills DO happen, its most often in desperate situations (like 1 scum left type deal or the entire team is PoEd by multiple people) OR in an endgame lylo scenario - both of which are not contextually relevant here.
if you think hu tao is town, find a good reason he died outside of that. because its 100% not for framing that slot. I will personally go with the nice easy answer thats been clear since EoD1 and keep the wagon warm for whenever people wake up to the right answer-
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remind me when we're both dead or the game is over for me to do this, i like cookiesIn post 1384, Black wrote: Grovyle I'll give you a cookie if you tell me your main-
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I definitely do agree with your D2 read on HuIn post 1388, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote: ergo at best you should say the kill has no bearing on what hu tao's alignment is, and I personally already believed hu tao was scum at eod1 and think their entrance to d2 was scummyHI EVERYBODY!-
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Woah, share the cookies with all alts pleaseIn post 1391, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
remind me when we're both dead or the game is over for me to do this, i like cookiesIn post 1384, Black wrote: Grovyle I'll give you a cookie if you tell me your mainHI EVERYBODY!-
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sorry you're a doctor and cookies are bad for you-
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I once recommended this:In post 1394, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote: sorry you're a doctor and cookies are bad for you
'You need to focus on the neglected food groups, such as the Whipped group, the congealed group and the Chocotastic!'
So ya, give me the damn cookiesHI EVERYBODY!-
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How was my day 2 start scummy?-
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iIn post 1272, Hu Tao wrote: 2 things:
1. I was gonna quick hammer awesome at e-1 but wasn't here. (No one will believe this but it needs to be said)
2. Dann, now that you're in dead thread and see that I'm town, can you agree see why I said I'm scared of trying to read you. Cause i really did think you were scum this game cause what I pointed out.
noIn post 1273, Hu Tao wrote:
haveIn post 1270, DrippingGoofball wrote: We lost a neighborizer, well that sucks.
Prediction: awesoming was bus'ed by both their buddies. That slot was more useful as a source of town cred than alive.
Tbh neighborizer isn't that strong. Could be worse
ideaIn post 1274, Hu Tao wrote: Good news is, Dann I will try my hardest to win this for you as my apology for tunneling you like that.
hmmIn post 1275, Hu Tao wrote: I have thoughts but I want others to speak
who knowsIn post 1299, Hu Tao wrote: Camel I think is still a good voteIn post 1334, Hu Tao wrote:
I had the same thoughtIn post 1308, Black wrote:In post 1270, DrippingGoofball wrote: We lost a neighborizer, well that sucks.
Prediction: awesoming was bus'ed by both their buddies. That slot was more useful as a source of town cred than alive.In post 1271, DrippingGoofball wrote: Thomith 1156, Black 1159, Gibdo 1223, Elements 1261
Probably in there.
I think this is a pretty scummy narrative and it feels like posturing to just push everyone on ming's wagon until they hit scumIn post 1276, DrippingGoofball wrote: Hu Tao (4): Dannflor 606, Grovyle in a Fedora 736,Black 792, Thomith 869
awesomeming327 (2):RationalMadman 266, DrippingGoofball 594
We can just lim black and thomith and win.-
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Grovyle in a Fedora anyGoonany
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nice i accidentally embedded the word have into a quote-
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Ehhh maybe it is just Hu
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