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Vote: FB

- Claimed scum with a partner.

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Note to self: Amrun is town.

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Note to self: Amrun is town.

What makes you so sure amrun is town. Can you please list a few reasons why.

1. She not afraid of anything.
2. She's pressuring people from what look like a pro-town perspective.

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Unvote

Vote: Jindori

The fake Post Restriction.

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Unvote

Vote: Jindori

The fake Post Restriction.

Jindori, did you impose this post restriction on yourself?

Yes i did otherwise i'd be introuble for for forgetting. It fits my role nicely. If you guys don't like it i can stop but that would make me one very sad turtle.

I declared this near the beggning of the game please read more carefully next time.

IO still don't liker it.

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Also empking i would like to point out you been lurking and your reasons have all been copied from someone else.

Who did I cop my first vote from?

Fixed tag. ~Nik

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@jindori: Biased summary is biased. And only helps lazy players be lazy. Summaries give the illusion of productivity without actually being productive, and allow the summarizer to tell their own version of the story.

This is good posting.

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Vote; tc

- That last post looks like he's worried one of his buddies will be run up so he wishes to revitalize the FB wagon.

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3. SharkFinn-----Has not posted significantly
6. Nobody Special-----Has not posted since post #6
9. RICO ACT-----Has not posted since post #8
10. Acronach-----Has not posted
11. Zyrconium-----Two posts, last near the end of RVS
14. Raivann-----Only one, very questionable post
15. Wild-----Has not posted
19. vezokpiraka-----Only one post, and a bad one at that

Look what I've found.

Scum. I never saw townies make lurker lists right at the start of day 1. This guy wants to appear town and is also dismissing attention on his other buddies.

vote Pine

Also: if I was at a party Saturday and had loads of stuff to do Sunday and today is my birthday what do you expect? How was the post bad Pine?

possable OMGUS here...

So who wants goodies tonight?

First one to name an animal that looks cute and gets pwned by penguins gets the goodie.

what do you mean by goodies? are you softclaiming GS?

"GS"?

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Charlie: Have we played a game together before?

Unvote

Vote: Acron

- A horrific pain my gut.

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. Cause my ability spread the disease may set off a chain reaction killing a couple of players.

This is what i said my ability is not that I was PGO you guys assumed that. Basicly i am the only one who can test out if cworl is lying or not.
So this is the gist of my role. My charater carries a disease. People with out ablities are immune to this disease. I can vist people during the night. At the night phase i will vist cworl. If he dies he is lying, if he lives his telling the truth. Also anyone visting me or cworl at this time may contract the disease at the mod discretion.

Am I going to be the only to point out that this fits the description of a serial killer?

No it doesn't.

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Stop stalling on the acronach wagon.

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Damn it.

Just received confirmation that the mandate lasts until the end of the game day. Whoever you are, damn you. I like being able to move my vote around at will to stir shit up, and you've robbed me of that.

I'm sure that whoever targetted you is crying themselves to sleep.

(In all honestly this "damn you" business looks fake.)

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Guys, this is a bastard game. It's probably real.

Anyway, I propose that we force Pine to hammer Charlie. Kill two birds with one stone.

How do you suggest we do that? It's not like we can say "Vote for Charlie or you die!!!"

We can if he's town.

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Grey Ice, that's why I'm asking. If his experience was simillar to Epic Mafia

that makes his motivations fine in his posts, and a by product of the PR style games Epic Mafia runs

. He claimed he had experience off site. Game theories that we use don't apply there very well.

How does that explain the
"Lynch."
"Lynch"
"Wait you're suspicious of me? No Lynch!"

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Oh, and I'm still waiting for ANYONE to give ONE good reason as to why Acronach is town. Thank you very much.

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ML: It was just him being obv-scum on my end.

Vote: Jindori

- Also gut.

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But you have said that you targetted Cojin last night and that you just got your role this morning from Cojin. I see a contradiction there and I'm asking you to clear it up.

I disagree with this.

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If no one understands what you are saying, perhaps the fault does not lie in those listening.

I understood him.

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Pine, you are so going to suffer for recruiting me to join this ass backwards game. Oh, good news. I just completed a game with Pine where he's scum. So, I now have meta I can use. I'm going to reread this thread and that thread to see if I see any similarities.

Completed game with me as Town. For contrast, to help you out in your quest. I think you'll find that my style is not significantly dependent on my alignment.

Ooh, somebody's a bit conceited.

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ring a ding ding well well. Feeling unlucky are we well take a look at this.

day 1

Okay
Raivann is town
Pine is mod-confirmed town, Raivann couldn't vote for a scumbag to save his life.

day2

Fuck it then.

My role has the ability to target two people, and swap who they target.

I chose you and Vezok.

So, your power hit who VEZOK targeted.

And VEZOK's power hit who YOU targeted.

Got it?

Oh.
My role is Fated backup. At some point I will gain some ability (it's very clear ).
I gained an ability this morning, from Cojin.

So your saying that you knew pine was mod confirmed town even through your ability was too take the abilitys of other dead players suspicious.
Looks like someone lied

so tell us how is pine confirmed town.

I like my vote.

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Still your vote at the time was on a gut feeling, which you admitted to. That wasn't even in the orignal reason why you voted, actually you gave no reasons. You duck under the rader.

Also you never give reasoning unless asked or pressured. To add to this fact you even antagonise. You stay third party and keep debuts alive you keep people arguing so you can stay hidden.
examples of you adding fuel to the fire

Guys, this is a bastard game. It's probably real.

Anyway, I propose that we force Pine to hammer Charlie. Kill two birds with one stone.

How do you suggest we do that? It's not like we can say "Vote for Charlie or you die!!!"

We can if he's town.

Stop stalling on the acronach wagon.

Grey Ice, that's why I'm asking. If his experience was simillar to Epic Mafia

that makes his motivations fine in his posts, and a by product of the PR style games Epic Mafia runs

. He claimed he had experience off site. Game theories that we use don't apply there very well.

How does that explain the
"Lynch."
"Lynch"
"Wait you're suspicious of me? No Lynch!"

Also you seem to be sticking very close to grey ice.

But you have said that you targetted Cojin last night and that you just got your role this morning from Cojin. I see a contradiction there and I'm asking you to clear it up.

I disagree with this.

If no one understands what you are saying, perhaps the fault does not lie in those listening.

I understood him.

Were have i seen the gut feeling posts oh here

Charlie: Have we played a game together before?

Unvote

Vote: Acron

- A horrific pain my gut.

and here

ML: It was just him being obv-scum on my end.

Vote: Jindori

- Also gut.

Most of your actions are questionable.

This is all OMGUS isn't it? Let's be honest.

Let's look art your points.

1. Using gut
My Response:
2. Supporting Grey on the two options for whether the back up targeted the back-upee.
My response:
3. Supporting the lynch on Mafia
My response:
4. Adding my two cents to a discussion
My response:

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5. your lack of content add something useful for once don't sheep if you are town. sheep here sheep there bah bah. Do some actual scum hunting.

Day One Final Vote Count
Acronach (13) -

Empking

, Lady Lambdadelta, Amrun, C-Worl, vezokpiraka, Zyrconium, Pine, GreyICE, implosion, Raivann, tclawren, Occult, Charlie

Jindori is scum. That's clear to everyone right?

(So's Raivann BTW, look at the VC before the Acronach wagon got big.)

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What reasoning am i scum. But you did enlighten one thing to me. I went back to check acrosnatch's votes before and it occured to me flavor challenged cop sounds like a town role. Plus now we know everyone turn up red. We have to face the fact that acrosnatch may not be scum. But just a vi. So Empking what do you think of this new evidence.

Throwing everything but the kitchen sink out now. Acro must be scum because

his

win condition was revealed.

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5. your lack of content add something useful for once don't sheep if you are town. sheep here sheep there bah bah. Do some actual scum hunting.

Day One Final Vote Count
Acronach (13) -

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, Lady Lambdadelta, Amrun, C-Worl, vezokpiraka, Zyrconium, Pine, GreyICE, implosion, Raivann, tclawren, Occult, Charlie

Jindori is scum. That's clear to everyone right?

(So's Raivann BTW, look at the VC before the Acronach wagon got big.)

This post was before your vote btw...

Before my wagon takes flight I'll tell you this; Something strange also happens to me upon death. Another reason why I believed claim.

New Plan:

We speed lynch Acronach

unvote, Vote: Acronach

I know. I referenced it as the reason you were scum. I still can't be called a sheep by a member of the town.

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5. your lack of content add something useful for once don't sheep if you are town. sheep here sheep there bah bah. Do some actual scum hunting.

Day One Final Vote Count
Acronach (13) -

Empking

, Lady Lambdadelta, Amrun, C-Worl, vezokpiraka, Zyrconium, Pine, GreyICE, implosion, Raivann, tclawren, Occult, Charlie

Jindori is scum. That's clear to everyone right?

(So's Raivann BTW, look at the VC before the Acronach wagon got big.)

This post was before your vote btw...

Before my wagon takes flight I'll tell you this; Something strange also happens to me upon death. Another reason why I believed claim.

New Plan:

We speed lynch Acronach

unvote, Vote: Acronach

I know. I referenced it as the reason you were scum. I still can't be called a sheep by a member of the town.

Why can't you be called a sheep, You didn't give any reason to your vote. A sheep is someone who goes onto another wagon with out reason of there own. Also raivann just proved the vote wasn't in order. What number was your vote emp.

Hand on heart I laughed out loud at this. Reaching like I've never seen before.

What number was your vote emp.

Dun dun dun.

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C-Worl is completely correct.

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@emp king do some original posting and don't ass kiss.

Still reaching with that are you? Is that the buttersafe.com mafia's plan or just yours?

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Here's a fun fact.

Turtles are amphibious. They can swim in the ocean, AND live on land.

So can I.

(Could it be 3rd scum caught?)

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If you really think I'm coming to the defense of my two scum buddies, you've lost your mind.

Why not/ If you've only got two scumbuddies then you wouldn't fancy your chances if both were lynched.

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Your arguing on the flavour of the post that's pretty sad
Pine and cworl = hatred for me any excuse to lynch me cworl was invited here by pine to actually just lynch me.
Empking= a man of few words kind of glad since most of his words are useless.
Charlie= i am not going to say anything about this.


Also tell me what possible scum motive is there behind sharky and i have telling you all that we now have a connection. Absolutely non scum don't want to be noticed they want to blend in. Why draw so much attention to myself.

Because you suck at mafia

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No he has a point.

Normally newer and less experienced players either lurk or go super active shitposting everywhere when they're scum, then retreat when they're called on it.

Damn it Emp, you're town, fucking stop and think about it. It's a B-mod, lynch over ACTIONS, not MECHANICS no matter HOW retarded the mechanic is. I mean you realize cop guilties don't even come close to meaning anything until we determine both cop sanity and whether the global alignment janitor effects them, right?

I'm voting Jindori because he's scum. I was voting him before this mechanic argument ever came into being.

Jin: Your OMGUSing, you lied and you spout whatever reaching nonsense you can think of. And let's not forget the ridiculousness of "What number was your vote." (Paraphrasing).

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No he has a point.

Normally newer and less experienced players either lurk or go super active shitposting everywhere when they're scum, then retreat when they're called on it.

Damn it Emp, you're town, fucking stop and think about it. It's a B-mod, lynch over ACTIONS, not MECHANICS no matter HOW retarded the mechanic is. I mean you realize cop guilties don't even come close to meaning anything until we determine both cop sanity and whether the global alignment janitor effects them, right?

I'm voting Jindori because he's scum. I was voting him before this mechanic argument ever came into being.

Jin: Your OMGUSing, you lied and you spout whatever reaching nonsense you can think of. And let's not forget the ridiculousness of "What number was your vote." (Paraphrasing).

Yes he went on a gut feeling. If i get lynched today and you find out it was the mods fault for the typo. (i will spam pines mailbox with i told you so.) Your whole reasoning for you being town was you voted that guy first. But then someone pointed out you didn't that why i asked what number was your vote. Please don't develop selective memory.

Really, mind posting where I said I was town (rather than not-sheeping) for being first on the big Acro wagon?

Grey: Its not a typo. The person who wrote Amphibians thought Turtles were Amphibians. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.

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You didn't give a reason for going on the wagon other than gut. Aka sheeping.

We all know he's definitely scum right?

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I think people should bear in mind that Jin didn't seem to see anything wrong with his PM calling himself an Amphibian. (They should also remind themselves that Shark took it upon himself to defend his scumbuddy before Jin had a chance to hang himself but that's a whole other subject.)

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As a claimed inventor, he'd probably be targeting town reads, as a *null* I'd, well, unless I'm a doctor I'd probably be targeting scumreads. Sooooo...

Ok, so now you may or may not have an active ability on top of your ‘Passive’ ability to take over the full role of some other player. Good to know ….

From LLD's perspective I think.

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Okay so I again declare Jindori town.

I do not expect somebody who is so afraid of sumhunting that they have to scream "He's using gut." "Icky gut" to be town. Why do you hasve a town read on Jin.

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You haven't pressured me in the least.

Grey: Why do you think that such a liar is town?

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Trust me; I wasn't pressured.

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1.Using gut in the rvs isn't bad but using gut to vote at end of day or start of day 2 without a reason is a no no.

March 07, 2011

2. Why would you need to support grey when he was about mechanics with his role which someone didn't understand. If you understood you could of explained and actually wanted to help. It but you went i understand and and nope it doesn't contradict. Whats the point in saying these the if your not going to explain them the anwser to gain townie points.

I was telling Grey that he was being reasonably clear.

3. I never asked that i asked why you didn't add reason to your votes (even the ones on scum)

Because my gut is really awesome in this game. (First Acro and then you.)

4. There's a difference between adding your two cent and egging someone on.

I agree so are you admitting to spouting nonsense on that point.

5.When ever i ask you why you lurk you never answered and since i drawn you out to the open. All your focus has been on me.

Grey

: Do you actually think this is coming from town? Jin does a little OMGUS-esque thing and the tries to rewrite history?

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I'm not calling for Grey's help. Its merely that I'd feel more comfortable if Grey agreed you were scummy.

Read all emps answer carefully, they are all strawmans.

I'll be kind and won't deman an explaination on all five points. How was my answer to your first question a strawman?

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So by

Read all emps answer carefully, they are all strawmans.

You mean:
Out of the five points, he gave two answers that weren't the sort of thing I was looking for.

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LOLYEP.

LOL@ZYR'S VOTE BEING ON THE WAGON

He the closest we've got to confirmed town though, so it gives me a fuzzy feeling. I just can't imagine scum that's unlynchable.

Why not?

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I'm following Grey? I'm on a minor wagon that Grey isn't on and yet somehow I'm following Gey?

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Grey

: Do you actually think this is coming from town? Jin does a little OMGUS-esque thing and the tries to rewrite history?

Here is you seek grey attention.

I think some people are just following grey blindly.

So again: When did I follow Grey?

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Grey

: Do you actually think this is coming from town? Jin does a little OMGUS-esque thing and the tries to rewrite history?

Here is you seek grey attention.

I think some people are just following grey blindly.

So again: When did I follow Grey?

Just added the bold.

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Well following blindly might of been a bad way of putting it. But you got to admit you been seeking his approval.

I don't think I have.

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Mod: Do Day-2 Jesters count as Jesters?

Yes, of course they do. ~Nik

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DTM: Pim hel isn't dead yet.

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[quote]D) I think Red is a bad guy in Pokemon[/quote

No.

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I also have reason to think I am RBed. If anyone else RBed me, they should speak up. If not, Ssurye is lying scum caught in her second lie.

Are you taking into account that JK come with free RBs?

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Pine's claim looks town but my two scumreads are both dead now which is annoying.

Vote: Stephoscope

- Because I have no recollection of him.

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jindori has NOT been shown to be Town, Surye. He wasn't, and I'd like to give whoever killed him a damn medal.

jindori *was* town. He wasn't playing well. He wasn't playing particularly effectively. But he was still town.

Says you.

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jindori has NOT been shown to be Town, Surye. He wasn't, and I'd like to give whoever killed him a damn medal.

jindori *was* town. He wasn't playing well. He wasn't playing particularly effectively. But he was still town.

Says you.

So I can count you in one of the following pools Empking?

1. Willfully stupid players who somehow believe all Mafia players have been killed at Night and no Mafia kills have happened and there are no powers at play messing with NK flips.
2. Scum looking to say as many NK and dead players as possible are scum hoping to obscure MYLO/LYLO

No. You can put me as town who thinks that the liar who somehow managed to not get lynched was mafia. If jindori just didn't flip as any alignment would you be going on about how he can't be mafia?

(Grey was pretty clearly the mafia kill over Jindori at any rate.)

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Unvote

Just checked as Ste was a recent replacement (plus I remember the avatar).

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Vote: Pine

Fuzzy - Does this mean you're a SK?

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FoS: Surye

- Setting up lynches.

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FoS: Surye

- Setting up lynches.

Everyone keeps saying I am suspicious for setting up lynches. How is that scummy? I've put out the issues I see with today in light of Vez's idiocy, and tried to find a way to come out in town favor. It's a numbers game, and I had an idea how to improve the odds. I may be wrong, but I still don't understand the current bandwagon forming on me (though Vez being on it is interesting, might make it worth it).

Am I right in thinking that you're mixing up games?

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Vote: Raivann

- I agree with C-Worl.

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Where is everybody

FOS: ML

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Just want to say that I agree with C-Worl and also that Raivann's "Acting just like scum would" is very weak.

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Magua – we need to get someone you find scummy other than Raivann to L-2 without you or Raivann on the wagon. You then “DoubleVote” said player. If they are not lynched at the next vote-count we hang Raivann. Sound like a logical plan?

I think I can improve it. How about: we hang Raivann.

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I not in love with MoI's test, as a could have been blocked or anything like that. But how's come you don't like it Empscum?

Proven ability isn't proven alignment.

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Anybody unvoting anyone who isn't Raivann to vote Metro is scum.

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Anybody unvoting anyone who isn't Raivann to vote Metro is scum.

Is English your first language Emp? I ask because this is dense as hell.

Anyone who specifically unvotes players other than Raivann to vote Metro is scum.

By corrallary unvoting Raivann to vote Metro would be a Pro-Town move. Therefore Raivann isn't scum ...

Yet you are voting Raivann …

How? Unvoting Raivann means that you think that he's scum for lying about the Double Vote. That's a null tell.
Unvoting anyone but Raivann means that you think Raivann is telling the truth and you're looking for an easy lynch. That's a scumtell.

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If you think Raivann is lying scum there is no reason to unvote him to test his claim. You should just want him hanged. If you are not sure if he is lying or not wanting to test the claim is the logical course of action. And in that case you probably would not be voting him in the first place.

If you're not voting him then that means you think he's telling the truth meaning you think the target (who were voting before) will die.

Additional use of ‘easy lynch” noted.

Why?

What do you think of Stephoscope Emp?

Meh. He's null to my mind.

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If you're not voting him then that means you think he's telling the truth meaning you think the target (who were voting before) will die.

No, not voting for him means I haven’t concluded with certainty that he’s lying and are open to testing as discussed.

When you want to come out of the “Everything is Black and White” world and join us feel free Emp.

He's either lying or telling the truth. There is no third option.

Why?

I point you towards THIS THREAD.

Don't just look at sound bites. Saying "I'll join this lynch and wash my hands of it since its an experiment" isn't at all what Fonz is talking about in that thread.

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tclawren: Learnt anything?

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He's either lying or telling the truth. There is no third option.

No kidding Sherlock.

The Black and White comment has to do with the fact that it is entirely possible to not know for certain whether he is lying or not. Your assuredness that must be the case flies in the face of how an Uniformed Majority member should be playing.

There are two possibilities for changing your vote to test the claim:
You think Raivann is telling the truth and thus you want Metro to be lynched.
You think Raivann is lying and thus you should want Raivann lynched.

If you moved your vote from anyone but Raivann to vote Metro then you were being insincere about your original vote.

Don't just look at sound bites. Saying "I'll join this lynch and wash my hands of it since its an experiment" isn't at all what Fonz is talking about in that thread.

You don’t really read well do you? I’m saying that both yourself and Steph have invoked the “It’s an easy lynch” defense which is invalid as hell.

No I didn't, you're just looking at the sound bits. The “It’s an easy lynch” defense is about something entirely different.

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@MOD – I’ll be V/LA from 4pm EST today until Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties.

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There are two possibilities for changing your vote to test the claim:
You think Raivann is telling the truth and thus you want Metro to be lynched.
You think Raivann is lying and thus you should want Raivann lynched.

There are more than two possibilities. Nice use of a False Dichotomy there.

Possibility 3 – You want to test Raivann’s claim even if you don’t have scum read on him (and thus are not voting him). A successful test gives a

dead Metro

, while a failed test means he is likely lying scum who should be hung.

FTFY

If you were part of testing the claim then you were saying "I want Metro or Raivann lynched" If you were originally voting somebody other than those players you were saying "I do not want Metro or Raivann lynched [I'd rather X be lynched.]". You're lying somewhere.

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FTFY

If you were part of testing the claim then you were saying "I want Metro or Raivann lynched" If you were originally voting somebody other than those players you were saying "I do not want Metro or Raivann lynched [I'd rather X be lynched.]". You're lying somewhere.

No, you are just stupid. I want the ability tested. Since Magua was the one testing I went with his candidate. My preference would clearly by Stepho as I think she's scum.

Do you think if Raivann is telling the truth then he's very highly town? If you think he's telling the truth (if you think otherwise then you should be on Raivan's wagon right now) then what do you gain (other than the easy lynch) by testing his ability?

But hey ... why exactly are you so sure Metro is not scum again? If the answer is 'because he's lurked and flaked' don't bother because that's not a Town tell, especially in a Power laden Bastard Mod game.

I never said Metro wasn't scum. I doubt he's Mafia because mafia went on his wagon to get an easy lynch. He might be a SK all other harmful third party.

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Wow that Raivann fellow is scummy.

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Occult has it spot on.

I really can't see any reason not to be voting Raivann at this time, and stalling out this game is going to become anti-town in a hurry now that we know there is a role that wins should the game go a particular length.

Will he be able to win now he's dead? (Lynchers can't and they're the same sort of thing.)

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Strangled is probably Serial Killer.

Vote: Charlie

- Active lurking.

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Why do you think Strangled is SK?

Its constant from an anti-town force.

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Steph claim your info. (I'll guess 2 Mafia, 2 Third Party, 7 Townies.)

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I got a neighbourize. The neighbourize came with finding investigative results of my target. I've yet to use it.

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@Empking:

Can you use this ability, or do you need to give it to someone else?

I can use it.

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Yeah I don't buy Steph's claim.

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With PR's claim I believe that if PR is town then so is Steph. I still don't think Steph is town so

Unvote

Vote: PR

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I didn't realize that I was hammering PR. I do realize that I'm hasmmering Steph but I am also completely certain that he's scum.

Vote: Steph

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I didn't realize that I was hammering PR. I do realize that I'm hasmmering Steph but I am also completely certain that he's scum.

Vote: Steph

It was stated clear as day in many posts, is your half-assed play and uselessness prevalent in all of your games or just the two I happen to be in with you?

Mod: Rule 8?

Occult: Please don't reference ongoing games at all. ~Nik