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In post 1774, noraaa wrote:In post 1756, Psyche wrote:UN, do you think the Blue Mafia has more than a couple of players? Or is my idea of color-coding working as an indicator of multiple teams invalid?
I literally just asked you the same thing and you dodged the half of it relating to how MANY members of the team(s) there might be in your estimation. Why do you deserve answers when you don't give them?
Wait...
In post 1740, Psyche wrote:I mean, if the teams are color coded...
Yes. I gave one.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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In post 1775, Psyche wrote:But it wasn't that I just said so. I explained WHY. And you brushed it aside and said, "I'm getting annoyed."
not right away, but after it was clogging up the game and I was saying my piece in twenty different ways and you still didn't agree, then yeah. Cause of course you're never going to agree that you're scummy. I figured it wasn't worth fighting about it cause we weren't going to see eye to eye.
Also um, are you not noticing the part where I said "two person teams" and then the part where I said "how MANY" people are on these team(s)? Cause you're totally acting like you don't get that part.
Maybe I was unclear initially but I was asking
a)do you believe there are teams plural
b)do you believe these teams are two person teamsEngineers accepted the word “planetary” in its epicyclic sense, but I was always conscious that it also meant “wandering,” “erratic.”
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In post 1734, inte wrote:Pine, why vote UberNinja, and not Psyche?
As I repeatedly said on Day 5, my vote was on the Psyche wagon as it had more momentum and more chance of success. Given the vote reset, I'd rather explore the other one for now.
Yeah, seriously, after all the defending of Psyche and chainsawing you did for him? This is not acceptable.
Not entirely sure why I was so convinced of 2-2-12. That looks heavily imbalanced against scum. Thinking noraaa might be the third blue, but we can circle back to that."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 1778, noraaa wrote:In post 1775, Psyche wrote:But it wasn't that I just said so. I explained WHY. And you brushed it aside and said, "I'm getting annoyed."
not right away, but after it was clogging up the game and I was saying my piece in twenty different ways and you still didn't agree, then yeah. Cause of course you're never going to agree that you're scummy. I figured it wasn't worth fighting about it cause we weren't going to see eye to eye.
Also um, are you not noticing the part where I said "two person teams" and then the part where I said "how MANY" people are on these team(s)? Cause you're totally acting like you don't get that part.
Maybe I was unclear initially but I was asking
a)do you believe there are teams plural
b)do you believe these teams are two person teams
I thought it was 2-2-12. I'm betting that the second color is red. Could be green. If it's purple, Ythan gets +respect.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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In post 1781, Pine wrote:The only decent argument for BK scum was that he was on all of the RedFF counterwagons. Your phony statistics still suck.
Not phony by any measure. That's number seven, I think.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Looking at the vote counts in posts 205 - 330, I think we can safely eliminate CF Riot as non-mafia, or if there are multiple mafias, non-blue mafia.My Wiki| Friends | The Cult of UberNinja | My Games | Modded Games | Statistics | Achievements | Avatars-
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Dammit Ythan!
People are supposed to be like "whooaoaaaaaa look at all the work UN did, UN simplymustbe town!"
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Except you didn't do any real work there, you just quoted Ythan a lot and color-coded. I see no actual insight, or attempts at making inference.
Also, that's at least the third time Psyche's said that I've misrepped him for "the seventh time." It's getting annoying. Stating my opinion on your posts is not misrepresentation, and it isn't lying. Lrn 2 mafia."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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psyche why does what color another team would be make any difference? it's just an arbitrary thing. If you disagree, explain why? And is purple your favorite color or something? Or is that a crumb for after your scum team gets caught?
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Considering that I thought mogri was, at the time "the scummier of the two" between him and red (during my iso), and so voted him D1, and that I was on BK most of day 5 until I switched over to UN for a bit, I'm not sure why you'd think that. But those are the only connections I see between us except for the fact that BK kept thinking I was scum for being conversational and "apologetic" and "forced" in my conversation D1. It's up to you, but I'm not scum, dude. How have your reads changed over this last day? Are you still heavy on inte, or has he taken a less prominent place in your mind? Will UN's alignment reveal Psyche's alignment to you regardless of how UN flips?
My current thoughts:
Of our lurkers we've killed two. One was town, one was scum. There remains Hiraki, Matias, crypto, petapan, and defender with 3s that come and go whenever they feel like it. Of those, petapan does the most actual content. Defender replaced someone that I thought was bad and others think was bad/scummy and then another person who ran a super fast train on town and then bounced. I think that is enough to make him worthy of speculation. Hiraki and Matias both come in, make a comment or two, then bounce. crypto goes in the middle, he's goldilocks' baby bear.
UN- can you explain what you were trying to get across with those vote counts? I really don't know how to read that kind of stuff. All I got was that you were coloring in town as green and scum as blue. I don't know what I'm looking for so I gave up trying to read them. You can insult me for being dumb or you can just answer it so I can take another look. Thanks.Engineers accepted the word “planetary” in its epicyclic sense, but I was always conscious that it also meant “wandering,” “erratic.”
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In post 1791, Pine wrote:Except you didn't do any real work there, you just quoted Ythan a lot and color-coded. I see no actual insight, or attempts at making inference.
Also, that's at least the third time Psyche's said that I've misrepped him for "the seventh time." It's getting annoying. Stating my opinion on your posts is not misrepresentation, and it isn't lying. Lrn 2 mafia.
Opinions and facts are two different things. >.>
psyche why does what color another team would be make any difference? it's just an arbitrary thing. If you disagree, explain why? And is purple your favorite color or something? Or is that a crumb for after your scum team gets caught?
Purple is the same color as your avatar, my darling noraaa. <3
I'm kidding. (Sorry, just finished reading some sweet, beautiful yaoi.)
Yes, purple is a pretty beast color. I was totally expressing my weirdness in my talk about faction colors. Arbitrary certainly is the word.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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In post 1781, Pine wrote:The only decent argument for BK scum was that he was on all of the RedFF counterwagons. Your phony statistics still suck.
That was the only argument I needed for him, and it's all I need for Psyche too.
In case you missed it, I gave BK201 a pretty fucking strong ultimatum, and after that, he stopped posting except for 2 last posts, the first of which didn't come until nearly 3 pages after my ultimatum. He knew he was scum, and he knew it was over.
So you can shut right the fuck up, whenever you're ready.
And here's the case on Psyche since you're wondering. According to my vote count analysis, Psyche stayed on BBmolla for the whole fucking entirety of Day 1, and then hopped over to redFF when it seemed like a foregone conclusion that he'd be lynched.
redFF flipped scum. Rinse and repeat.
Psyche stayed off all wagons for the entirety of Day 2, never once having a vote anywhere other than the Not Voting category. At the very end of the day, he sees that the Techno lynch is a foregone conclusion yet again, and hops on with a well-timed hammer. Fantastic.
Techno flipped town. Rinse and repeat.
On day 3, Psyche was off all wagons until Mogri had 5 votes. On the wagon Psyche goes. Sixth vote and counting on Mogri. Followed swiftly by BK201 (what a surprise), and then a hammer.
Mogri also flips town. Rinse and repeat.
But this time it becomes clear that Psyche's getting a little bolder; a little more comfortable with himself. He's only the (gasp!) *fourth* vote on Nobody Special, and he's followed by CF Riot, noraaa, and Pine is the hammer there.
Congratulations, another townie.
The next day, things aren't so easy. Psyche has a couple of votes on himself, and is even the leading wagon at one point, with 3 votes on him. BK's wagon grows and surpasses his though, 5-4. It's neck and neck coming around the final turn, both galloping and foaming as their jockeys do their damnedest, but Lucky Sevens manages to eke out a nose on The Back Nine in the final stretch, and BK201 finishes just milliseconds ahead of Psyche in a stunning upset. What a photo finish ladies and gentlemen!
Surprise. BK flips scum.
But the interesting part, which I had already predicted beforehand, was that Psyche and BK are scum together. The reasons Psyche quoted for voting BK were shit, and the reasons BK quoted for voting Psyche were pretty much nonexistent. It was pretty easy to piece the two together, given their interactions with each other throughout the game and the pattern of their voting.
For the record, Nightless games rule.
I will make it a point to join every single one I can from now on. They fucking rule for one reason. There's no danger of being night killed, and so you can say whatever the fuck you want and as long as people think you're town, you get to live forever because the only way scum can kill you is to mislynch you. So I can act however the fuck I want and not have to worry about attracting a night kill. Fuck yeah.
And the flip side of that is, scum don't have night times to sit there and discuss their play in private and get coaching sessions from more experienced scum buddies. So the dumb ones will obviously fall right away (redFF), the slightly less obvious ones will fall after a few misfires (Techno, I'm sorry, it had to be done. Nobody Special, you deserved it. Mogri, I knew you were town and tried to stop your lynch, but it was scum driven; and there's no doubt there because the proof is in the vote counts I posted), and then the final scum can be wrapped up into a nice neat little handbasket of FUCK YOU SCUM, DIE IN A FIRE, thanks to accumulated associative tells and vote/wagon analysis.
If you're not voting Psyche right now you're just being silly. And by silly, I mean you're being a fucking moron.
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In post 1711, D3f3nd3r wrote:Yeah. Psyche hasn't made me scream "TOWNIE" in my head, I still suspect him, but I'm feeling that he's less scummy.
UNVOTE: Psyche
Less scummy than BK201.
Now, we VOTE: Psyche-
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In post 1792, noraaa wrote:Pine-
Considering that I thought mogri was, at the time "the scummier of the two" between him and red (during my iso), and so voted him D1, and that I was on BK most of day 5 until I switched over to UN for a bit, I'm not sure why you'd think that. But those are the only connections I see between us except for the fact that BK kept thinking I was scum for being conversational and "apologetic" and "forced" in my conversation D1. It's up to you, but I'm not scum, dude. How have your reads changed over this last day? Are you still heavy on inte, or has he taken a less prominent place in your mind? Will UN's alignment reveal Psyche's alignment to you regardless of how UN flips?
My bluescum read on you is mostly gut, and your pointed protestations only solidify that feeling. My reads, except on BK, have not changed at all with the flip. I didn't think Psyche/UN were BK's buddies, given how viciously UN was going after him. Pretty obv that she was going after the opposition. Inte's never been much more than null in my mind. He's done some odd things, but there's far more notable people in this game. UN and Psyche are scummy independently of one another, but a scumflip out of one will make the other an urgent necessity."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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