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[kondi2424]

/confirm

[kondi2424]

1- what alignment do you prefer playing as, town or scum?
I have never been scum before, so, I have nothing to compare it too. >.>

Can you rephrase this for me?

I'll answer the questions later.

[kondi2424]

Mala is town.

[kondi2424]

That statement wouldn't have been made if this was her first time being scum.

[kondi2424]

That's easy to solve.

@Mod: Are scum getting to talk right now, considering the short confirmation time?

[kondi2424]

Forgot about those

1: Scum. More satisfaction in deceiving people than stopping them.

2: A lot. Somewhere around 40 on-site.

3: CDT, depends on how interesting the conversation is

Also, the question couldn't really give scum away. It's just asking when scum can talk.

PEdit: In that case, Ven's #21 suspicion of the non-posters is borderline townslip.

[kondi2424]

Still doesn't give the town any unfair advantage.

[kondi2424]

Venmar why are you throwing around stupid suspicion on players who havent posted yet, it is not scummy at all, and don't see why you brought it up.

DING DING DING we have a winner. VOTE: Thomith

So, I'm kinda happy with my vote at the minute. Not that it means anything on the second page, of course. =P

Two in one quarter? That's not fair.

[kondi2424]

Actually, rethinking that. Thomith and MrBump probably aren't scum together.

VOTE: MrBump Gimme a scum meta and a town meta.

[kondi2424]

Because you somehow failed to read where I said Venmar townslipped. But then I realized you are Thomith so it's okay.

You should vote MrBump.

[kondi2424]

You're being super-cautious with Thomith. You did it again with that post.

Actually, Thomith-MrBump could exist, but mostly on MrBump's part.

PEdit: I could see you missing where I pointed out Venmar's townslip.

[kondi2424]

/confirm

/confirm

/confirm

The fact that these are all within five minutes of thread start makes me feel even better about the town reads on both of them, as the Mod said the scum had time to strategize.

[kondi2424]

He suspected the people that hadn't posted yet of talking in their QT, and after that, the Mod told us that the scum planned in their QT before the game started.

[kondi2424]

*facepalm*

He thought the scum had access to their QTs, and the Mod confirmed that they didn't.

[kondi2424]

Smaller games are much easier to PoE in, which is why I get into them more easily. I'm on my iPhone, so you might have to look through my meta yourself.

[kondi2424]

MrBump should be lynched for being extremely cautious, especially around Thomith. I've already shown two examples of this.

This is also a decent reason to lynch him:

I don't like how mala has only commented on stuff directly related to her as of yet and essentially completely ignored Page 2.

Without addressing my two reasons that mala is town at all. This is a more minor point, but still valid.

[kondi2424]

@mala:

I'm not sure if Kondi is making friends with me due to the fact it's scum wanting to become close with town or if it's a town with a role that wants to become close with another townie. >.>

Was this sarcasm?

[kondi2424]

Then that's yet another reason mala is town; she would know there was no such role in this setup if she had planned in a QT.

Completely convinced that mala and Venmar are town, feel good about one of MrBump and Thomith being scum and leaning on MrBump. Snake or Trollie would be the second scum via PoE.

[kondi2424]

Note again that I regularly find town early-game. It's WIFOM and should be taken for what it is.

Mala, what do you think of MrBump?

[kondi2424]

Wait a second... MrBump, are you that guy that used to have the awesome blue egg avatar?

[kondi2424]

Why did you unvote, Venmar?

[kondi2424]

And why did you unvote?

[kondi2424]

Fair enough.

[kondi2424]

He's a wildcard right now, along with Trollie. He hasn't posted much content, but that's not necessarily scummy yet. I don't think he's partners with Mr. Bump though, so I'll say null until a flip.

[kondi2424]

Alright. I've went through possible teams, eliminated people who are town, and determined that the scum is in one of these:

MrBump-Trollie
MrBump-Thomith
Snake-Trollie
Snake-Thomith
Trollie-Thomith

Notice that all possible teams have either Trollie or Thomith in them.

[kondi2424]

They don't have a

higher

chance of being scum. Those are just the possible teams; I'm personally betting on MrBump-Trollie.

Trollie isn't scummy, but he's impossible to read right now.

[kondi2424]

Venmar, what are your reads on everyone?

[kondi2424]

Two things -

First, what is your opinion on my reasoning for voting MrBump?

Second, yes, this is Thomith's usual play.

[kondi2424]

MrBump should be lynched for being extremely cautious, especially around Thomith. I've already shown two examples of this.

This is also a decent reason to lynch him:

I don't like how mala has only commented on stuff directly related to her as of yet and essentially completely ignored Page 2.

Without addressing my two reasons that mala is town at all. This is a more minor point, but still valid.

[kondi2424]

In theory, it would make sense to lynch Thomith and Trollie both for a guaranteed scum. However, I don't want the momentum on MrBump to die because he is actually scummy based on evidence as opposed to teams. I may switch to Trollie or Thomith if they become candidates for lynch.

[kondi2424]

He[Snake]'s a wildcard right now, along with Trollie. He hasn't posted much content, but that's not necessarily scummy yet. I don't think he's partners with Mr. Bump though, so I'll say null until a flip.

That's considered in-between. Thomith could also be put there. In fact, the only person I've continually wanted to lynch is you.

Nothing else you said resembles scummy play. So yeah I call BS

I played an epic game with Venmar recently, but that's our only one.

[kondi2424]

Oh yeah, your brother modded that.

[kondi2424]

Claim time.

[kondi2424]

...

I can't tell whether that was AtE or actual rage.

[kondi2424]

Hmm.

Who do you think are scum, Mala?

[kondi2424]

If not Bump, I agree with Snake. What do you think of Trollie?

[kondi2424]

OH MY GOD I JUST GOT IT

THE BLUE GUY WAS NAMED MR. BUMP!

[kondi2424]

@Trollie:

OVER THE BUMP OVER THE BUMP

Right now it's bussing time

OVER THE BUMP OVER THE BUMP

The only way out is to

DIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE

(cookie for reference)

[kondi2424]

I was completely fine with a hammer until Trollie announced replacement.

[kondi2424]

Feedback and an actual read on the slot based on his posts.

[kondi2424]

@Trollie:

OVER THE BUMP OVER THE BUMP

Right now it's bussing time

OVER THE BUMP OVER THE BUMP

The only way out is to

DIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE

(cookie for reference)

AS I SCREAM AIM AND FIRE
THE LYNCH VOTES GROW HIIIGHEEER...?

You sir are great. (::)

If you're scum, this is appealing to me, since I think it's either you or Snake. However, you're also accusing me, which kinda negates the former. This could be a buddy-attempt on Mala, but Mala was already obvious town, so it wouldn't be too necessary.

Meh, you have no scum motivation. VOTE: Snake

[kondi2424]

Does anyone want to contribute anything?

[kondi2424]

V/LA until Saturday

[kondi2424]

Here temporarily, nothing has really changed, but I'll look over stuff more clearly when I'm home.

[kondi2424]

I can't read that either. -_-

Matt if you quickhammer Snake I will treat you as confirmed town.

[kondi2424]

[kondi2424]

PEdit: Sure, but I don't think it's necessary. UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

Matt, you're like a master scum player. I'm pretty sure Venmar couldn't fake a townslip like that. (No offense to Venmar of course)

And I actually do have a good record of finding townslips. You're the only one I've ever gotten wrong.

[kondi2424]

-_-

Alright then.

Let's say you're right about your townreads and I'm right about mine. That leaves you, Snake, and Thomith.

So let's lynch Snake.

[kondi2424]

I've kinda ignored Mala, as she townslipped. I guess I'll look, though.

[kondi2424]

First thing you have to remember is that Mala is pretty new, so I'm reading her with that in mind.

Her earlier posts kinda feel like Venmar in FP1, which is bad, but her reaction to the MrBump wagon makes me feel like he could be her only partner. I'm not seeing what you're pointing to as fakeness, either.

[kondi2424]

I refuse to think either of my confirmed town are scum right now, much less both.

[kondi2424]

It's Venmar. -_-

I don't trust you right now, Matt. I've already determined that I can't read you, and you're telling me what I've gone against the whole game.

Ignoring Mala and Venmar, what do you feel the possibility of a Snake/Thomith team is?

[kondi2424]

what just happened

No, seriously, I'm having trouble figuring out how to comprehend this.

Venmar, come back. Both of you, go sit in the corner for 5 posts and think about what you've done. I'll have your punishment ready by then.

[kondi2424]

Actually, that's really good.

I'm going to double-check Mala's slip.

[kondi2424]

Thanks a lot, Matt. Now I have to actually read her.

I think there's potential for Mala-scum, but I'm still doubting it.

[kondi2424]

[kondi2424]

Yay VOTE: Snake

[kondi2424]

Everyone say whether they counter the Cop or not.

I am not a Cop.

[kondi2424]

*facepalm*

He's claiming Cop.

[kondi2424]

It was really obvious.

We should wait to see if anyone counters him.

[kondi2424]

So... all that's left is Bump?

[kondi2424]

wut

Going to see the probability of a Thomith-Matt team. If it looks unlikely, I'm voting Bump.

[kondi2424]

Crap.

A Thomith-Matt team looks AMAZING right now.

Looking over Bump's possible partners.

[kondi2424]

Anyway, time to claim, because apparently 5/6 players want me dead for reasons I still don't understand. Vanilla Townie. AND NOT ONE THING WAS ACHIEVED THAT DAY.

LOLOLOLOLOL

VOTE: bUMP

[kondi2424]

...I hate you, Matt. -_-

Bump, why the hell did you claim VT?

PEdit: ?

[kondi2424]

They couldn't play a gambit because someone else would have claimed Cop.

[kondi2424]

I'm confused right now.

[kondi2424]

It's not that hard to fake.

Pretty sure it's Matt. I already had a town read on Venmar.

[kondi2424]

Actually, Matt, are you trolling?

[kondi2424]

Nope. I've had a town read on Venmar all game.

I mentioned that it wasn't hard to fake because I was wondering why you thought it was genuine. That's not why Venmar is town.

[kondi2424]

@MOD: If the night actions are all sent in within 24 hours can we have an abbreviated night phase?

[kondi2424]

So we're pretty much screwed. Matt does nothing scummy that isn't just to his meta. -_-

[kondi2424]

Hey Matt, you should try to set up the idea that me-scum is going to bring you and Thomith to LyLo. It will totally work, especially if Thomith is kept alive.

Thomith, just in case Matt decides to do this, investigate me.

[kondi2424]

Hi!

I don't mean to be pushing or anything, but could you unvote until Venmar makes a post? Just to humor me?

[kondi2424]

No seriously. Just for your old buddy kondi's sake, you should unvote. ^_^

[kondi2424]

Trust me babe I got this

[kondi2424]

Is there anything that you would like to say before anything happens?

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Matt

[kondi2424]

UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

Nice of you to notice.

Give me five.

[kondi2424]

Alright, pretty sure I know who it is right now.

But first, Matt, I have one question: Will you take me to prom?

[kondi2424]

Also, Kondi, if you think I'm not obvtown after this I'm not taking you to prom.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Venmar. Bump's perfect partner. His reads post has the exact same style to Bump's read as in Trollie's read in FP1. Pump has basically no interaction. And to top it off, Matt and Bump deserve the game as partners.

Matt, your townread on Venmar is solely based on his reaction to your hammer, correct?

[kondi2424]

By the way that whole thing was a stall to look at Bump's ISO. Besides the vote thing, I wanted to see if Venmar was still watching the thread.

[kondi2424]

Hello sir how are you

OH WAIT YOU'RE A TURTLE

[kondi2424]

And Matt's gone. Which means he's town.

[kondi2424]

Bump seriously mentions Venmar ONCE besides his innocent on him:

Matt vs Venmar is Town vs Town and completely retarded.

And Venmar only mentions Bump here:

Sceptical right now if MrBump is scum, i am really null here.

Anyone has intent to hammer?

Null:
5)

MrBump

- He hasn't necessarily given me really bad vibes but at the same time he hasn't really given me much town vibes. Some of his posts are edgy though and some reactions as well. I will need to reread the thread for Bump, but for now i feel null about him.

(this is what I meant by the similar buddy reads to FP1)

and many instances of him asking why I'd rather lynch Bump than Trollie, Thomith, or Snake. I also see a lot of him buddying me.


Meanwhile, there are many reactions between Bump and Matt which make it obvious that they aren't partners.

[kondi2424]

tee hee hee

[kondi2424]

I saw the perfect opportunity to WIFOM the shit out of Matt. He tried to make it obvious that it was either me or him, so I went for the impossible target.

[kondi2424]

I also felt like you could outscream me and persuade Venmar better.

[kondi2424]

Bump seriously mentions Venmar ONCE besides his innocent on him:

Matt vs Venmar is Town vs Town and completely retarded.

And Venmar only mentions Bump here:

Sceptical right now if MrBump is scum, i am really null here.

Anyone has intent to hammer?

Null:
5)

MrBump

- He hasn't necessarily given me really bad vibes but at the same time he hasn't really given me much town vibes. Some of his posts are edgy though and some reactions as well. I will need to reread the thread for Bump, but for now i feel null about him.

(this is what I meant by the similar buddy reads to FP1)

and many instances of him asking why I'd rather lynch Bump than Trollie, Thomith, or Snake. I also see a lot of him buddying me.


Meanwhile, there are many reactions between Bump and Matt which make it obvious that they aren't partners.

Matt, would this have convinced you at all if you hadn't hammered yet?

[kondi2424]

We each got a scum win on our belts.

Bump and I also found your early reads hilarious.

[kondi2424]

Kondi we need to settle this with a dual

[kondi2424]

[kondi2424]

I kinda got selfish there and was afraid I couldn't pull off a Cop claim against Thomith.

[kondi2424]

Thanks guys

I figured you'd go to Matt's side, Venmar. I thought at the end that you were calling me town to get me-scum to not worry about you all game.

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/WiTDDMJEmhmK - QT before Hoopla came

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/7Xsc5CP6apj - Our new QT