Mini 1401 - Game over!

[absta101]

Conman asking for the VC constantly is slightly scummy imo. I sometimes do that when i'm scum as a habit. It's possible that scum do it to check which players are likely misslynches and to make sure they don't vote the same person as their partner(s).
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@d3x - I don't want to ask people things that have already been asked and all that.

[TheConman17]

@absta there is nothing wrong with asking for a vote count and just because you do it when your scum doesn't mean I would do it when I am scum

[absta101]

@absta there is nothing wrong with asking for a vote count and just because you do it when your scum doesn't mean I would do it when I am scum

I know that.
Is there a reason you don't just let the mod post a VC when he thinks it's appropriate?

[havingfitz]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Slandaar]

Why have you been riding that Conman vote for so long?

Well, assuming you think he's Scum, it's pushing the Wagon.

Scum found.

I asked him what the point of leaving my vote on Conman was he says; to push wagon

He then later is asking me why I was voting Conman so long.

Hes scum; it is clear cognitive dissonance, I am scummy for voting Conman so long AND I should be voting Conman to push the wagon.

Can't be both ergo d3x is scum.

I voted him for the obvious reasons of meph getting caught then flaking instantly, not randomly, although it is how I made it appear to see how d3x would react and obviously not well at all.

[d3x]

Derr-kay. Nice blatant misrep, Slandaar. That's so sloppy you should be ashamed of yourself.

Let's all look at the context of those two quotes.

I have been voting conman for ages, what was my vote accomplishing?

Well, assuming you think he's Scum, it's pushing the Wagon. I find this questionable b/c you seem to be jumping off the Wagon for a seemingly late RVS vote w/o adding any substance.

This clearly shows that I don't believe you.

Why have you been riding that Conman vote for so long? Your vote post said... "yeah". Please note, I don't want you to say 'I agreed with fitz et al, I want you to state your reasons for thinking he's Scum.

This clearly states that because I don't believe you, I want you to explain your vote. As I said, you've been riding that Wagon virtually the whole game, yet you've not really added to the case.

Oh man, do I like my vote. Let's Lynch us a SlandaarScum, boyos {and ladies}.

[d3x]

I voted him for the obvious reasons of meph getting caught then flaking instantly, not randomly, although it is how I made it appear to see how d3x would react and obviously not well at all.

And this? It's ridiculous. If you 'caught' meph in something, why didn't you vote him? Why would you wait 6 days without even mentioning it? meph didn't ask for replacement in thread, so how did you know he was going to replace out? You 'planned it'... lmao. Conjecturing on why someone replaced out 6 days after the fact once you start getting in hot water is super weaksauce. Some might even call it scummy. In fact, I think I am.

[Slandaar]

Nope;

D3X: Town should use their vote to push a wagon
Then D3X asks:
Why were you voting him for so long?

See how the first point answers the question; Its clear scum cognitive dissonance

Amazingly; Reasons can be found dotted through my ISO.

[Slandaar]

Amazing.

Why isn't any of this inventing arguments scummy again meph? do tell.

DERP.

I never connected Kthxbye's question with Conman's post. I derped that up. Now I see the point that you all were making; that being said, my opinion of Conman has not changed.

I'll have a more substantial post later today.

Meph last post

Oh Dex what is this? did he get caught and then never post his promised content?

No! it can't be!

I wanted to see his explanation but obviously he never posted it.

[Nobody Special]

Slandaar, give it up.

I've seen your play, it's not normally this .... retarded, for lack of a better word.

Are you scum?

[Kthxbye]

Ok, this day has gone on long enough. Below is why you should vote conman: (bold is mine)

Vote: Slandar
His voting pattern is suspicious an he seems to be one of the scum.

There were no patterns and when asked, no comment.

Well kthxbye you seem rather quick to try and take votes of yourself and try to blame other people but I guess I haven't been reading much because I have been at a lacrosse tournament and am really just spamming but you do seem to have a past history with this forum and with the points mentioned above...
UNVOTE
VOTE: kthxbye

Here he does pretty much exactly what he accuses me of and tries to keep the wagon on me going while still ignoring any questions directed at him. Also note admission of "really just spamming"

.... these players seem experienced and for my

my first game on this forum

do you honestly think he would put me as scum because I could not know anything and just go on and say something stupid wheres if I was a Towney that would be more logical as more skilled players should be on the mafia and if I messed up then it wouldn't matter as the mafia would already know that I was a Towney.
SO since my last votes were stupid

UNVOTE

Do I even need to break this one down?

But I do have to say kthxbye's scum strategy seems to be that when someone finds something suspicious about him he try's to get people to vote for other people by fos or vote (even though some people aren't being scummy (meph)) and when that doesn't work jump on a bandwagon

After we get some schooling on how another site is different and debate on whether Conman should have started with a Newbie game, we get this nice little post that if he flips scum, will convince me that d3x's slot is scum as well.

Screw this I am going back to playing on ikariam

Vote: TheConman17

And finally, anger at getting caught so easily on day one and a big part of the reason I don't want to deal with him past today.

After all this, we basically get fluff and not answering direct question (seriously, was like pulling teeth re: p189-p208) and flipping reads more often than an angry pidgeon.

Vote Conman for Scumsident!! (Think I'll make buttons)

[TheConman17]

@kthxbye you do not say anyone is suspicious but me you do not even acknowledge other players (exept for the vote for conman thing) and also I would like to see your scum list similar to mine

[Kthxbye]

Conman: 100% scum

There ya go!

[TheConman17]

No like everyone on this game

[Kthxbye]

Also, I talk about d3x in my post as well. Well, not him specifically, but his slot.

P.edit: no thanks

[Huntress]

I find it at odds b/c you happen to agree with the stance meph was taking. Assuming you're not Scum, I find it contrary to say 'I agree' with one side of your mouth and 'If we're both wrong, you're Scum' with the other.

I agreed with Meph's comments in posts 76 and 84 but they don't preclude the fact that he may have been defending a scum buddy's poor posting. Nowhere have I said that Conman flipping scum would mean that Meph was scum; just that it was possible as there are links that point that way.

Conman asking for the VC constantly is slightly scummy imo. I sometimes do that when i'm scum as a habit. It's possible that scum do it to check which players are likely misslynches and to make sure they don't vote the same person as their partner(s).

Why doesn't this also apply to Kthx who has also asked for vote counts? If asking for the counts is a tell at all I would have thought it was because scum want to appear active rather than for the reason you give here.

@ havingfitz:

What was the point of post 378?


I can't get my head around the argument between D3x and Slandaar tonight. I'll look at it closer in the morning but from what I've seen so far I'm beginning to rethink my early read on Slandaar.

In the meantime let's have some more votes on

Kthxbye

. Once again he's using Conman as a smokescreen to hide the fact that he's doing next to nothing.

[Kthxbye]

Really huntress? Nothing in my last post was logically based and just a smoke screen? This isn't the first time you've come to conmans defence btw. Any specific reason for that? Mind posting the reasons I'd need a smoke screen for anyway? Might get more votes that way...

[TheConman17]

@kthxbye cool, now just show the list so I know you don't have a focusing disorder

[Kthxbye]

Huntress defense of you, d3x (his slot) due to earlier interaction with meph, and you are my scum list. The first 2 if you flip scum mainly though huntress will still be on their if you flip town. Everyone else is leaning town atm. No strong town reads atm.

[Malakittens]

Interesting. How can Huntress be scum regardless of the flip? That's just so ....

What about Nacho defense of Con? Why is Navho left out?

Why apply one, but not another?

[TheConman17]

@Mala true
@Kthxbye explain

[d3x]

I agreed with Meph's comments in posts 76 and 84 but they don't preclude the fact that he may have been defending a scum buddy's poor posting. Nowhere have I said that Conman flipping scum would mean that Meph was scum; just that it was possible as there are links that point that way.

I'm good with that.

I'm beginning to rethink my early read on Slandaar.

[best Aussie accent]Clever girl.[/best Ausie accent]

What about Nacho defense of Con? Why is Navho left out?
Why apply one, but not another?

This.

[TheConman17]

d3x 2012-12-16 22:09:54 0 days 0 hours 14
TheConman17 2012-12-16 22:09:11 0 days 0 hours 58
Malakittens 2012-12-16 22:04:09 0 days 0 hours 24
Kthxbye 2012-12-16 21:55:10 0 days 0 hours 69
Huntress 2012-12-16 18:37:02 0 days 3 hours 20
Nobody Special 2012-12-16 17:19:15 0 days 4 hours 22
Slandaar 2012-12-16 12:10:16 0 days 10 hours 27
havingfitz 2012-12-16 11:04:42 0 days 11 hours 16
absta101 2012-12-16 10:12:11 0 days 12 hours 22
Singer is Nachomamma 2012-12-16 01:58:28 0 days 20 hours 25
AngryPidgeon 2012-12-15 19:45:56 1 day 2 hours 21
qwints 2012-12-15 09:18:03 1 day 12 hours 33
Gorgon 2012-12-14 02:56:05 2 days 19 hours 24
SaintKerrigan 2012-12-10 21:32:11 6 days 0 hours 4
theaceofspades 2012-12-10 11:37:33 6 days 10 hours 10
Mephistopheles 2012-12-07 09:42:08 9 days 12 hours 8
This shows when there last post was and how many posts (number on the end) does this say anything to you guys?

[Malakittens]

The point of ^ that was what?

[AngryPidgeon]

Saint Kerrigan is V/LA
Gorgon will get a prod if he hasnt posted by the time I wake up Tomorrow.

You know you play mafia too much when you capitalize Today, Tomorrow, and Yesterday subconsciously.