In post 983, ² wrote: In post 921, Nachomamma8 wrote:First of all, your read was oriented completely around TD-me-mollie-orc, things like that. You ignored the Varsoon situation completely, and you found nothing to comment on from anyone else. What do you think of everyone else?
In post 844, ² wrote:I was mostly concerned with how mollie didn't have any clear read on our slot. First she simultanously read me as town and f as scum. Then she simultanously read me as town and scum. Usually she has a clear read, even when she's wrong.
Why did this concern you? Was there a game you played with mollie-scum where she didn't have a clear read on you?
In post 848, ² wrote:If you didn't already, please clarify.
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I asked you what you thought of her, saw nothing. What do you think of her and her specifically?
In post 850, ² wrote:Which I did. She told me that the two of you had a run in, that Nacho decided we're scum and that orc wants us to vote varsoom, who went on a wall-posting spree overnight with utterly bizarre stuff. I then told her I'd be reading and she told me she'd not be posting for a while.
And you not commenting on Varsoon at all but commenting on us, commenting on me. That was suspicious. It shows you're more concerned about fixing your rep than looking for the scum you're supposed to be finding.
In post 859, ² wrote:I'll almost guarantee that he will scum read me even if the two of you are town - that's sort of what he does.
This seemed strange, considering your immediate townread on Majiffy after. I felt like you were preemptively defending against the Majiffy scumread, especially since I don't remember him ever calling you scum except when he was scum and being an idiot.
In post 880, ² wrote:What can I do to help you stop being an idiot?
You usually know when I'm empty shit-talking.
You know that I'm not sure of a scumread on you two or I wouldn't be afraid to tunnel the shit out of you.
In post 899, ² wrote:Nacho, how the fuck can you be town reading this?
This question is very, very late. You never followed up when you mixed him and Cabd up before.
Read his most recent post that's not "town rage".
In post 903, ² wrote:You don't really mind votes on him? How is that compatible with town reading him? Why don't you just explicitly admit that you're wrong with your read on him?
My townread on him until recently had to make a lot of inferences. Since he's not as bleedingly town as others, I would rather people like orc put on TD votes instead of Varsoon votes, for example.
In post 907, ² wrote:I thought I already explained why I mixed up the two at the time. What is it that you think the problem is exactly?
Lack of followup. You were like "whoops, wrong one". And the fact that you didn't notice you mixed them up until I pointed out you did showed me that you sure as hell didn't read my reasoning for him being town. But mostly, it was the lack of followup.
In post 911, ² wrote:What the fuck? No I fucking wasn't. I identified you on my own, which I'm positive she can confirm.
Also fuck you for trying to discredit me in this manner.
Sorry, I fucked up. But did you really think that I was trying to discredit your town game?
1) I read it rather selectively. I don't have much time due to an exam so I skipped a lot of the longer posts. For instance, I didn't read the content of the long posts Varsoon and Majiffy made. I just noticed what kind of reads they had and made my read based on that. Varsoon voted someone who was unlikely to get lynched (I don't even remember who) after an asburdly long entrance post, so I asserted that he is probably town based on that. Majiffy is active and seems to care, so he's town. I still think TD is scum. I also don't like Cabd. I havn't found a reason to think orc or you are scum, so I'm just going to trust f's town read on the two of you. I'm not certain that Sven is town, but lynching him today is dumb. I have no idea how to read Rach - I've reached the conclusion that her posts just always seem anti-town to me regardless of her alignment. I want to have a look at the Sven wagon as I've already mentioned, but havn't had time yet. I havn't really read the rest of the players posts careful enough to make any read.
2) You're essentially pointing it out yourself. Usually she does have a clear read on me (it being town or scum), even if that read is wrong. I felt like she didn't have any clear read on first our slot and then me this game, which is what I would expect from scum-mollie. As it turns out, I was probably wrong, because I don't see Majiffy making all these posts as scum.
3) See above.
4) I can see why you're thinking this, but turn the table for a moment. What would your reaction be if I ignored all of your questions and instead continued with finding scum? I'm pretty sure you'd assert that I would be trying to direct attention away from me. I trust that f and I will be able to find something if you'll just calm yourself and at least entertain the possibility that you're wrong with your current read.
5) He has called me scum both as scum and town and more so than any other player I can think of - and I don't think it's a close call. I'm rather surprised that he's not doing it this game, but that's unrelated to me read on him. He's town because he's not faking reads, he's dedicating time, he seems to care and his reads are very much in accordance with mine.
6) Obviously. If I thought you were locked into a scum read I wouldn't be spending time responding to your posts and attempt to meet your wishes.
7) I'm not sure what exactly you mean by that being very very late? Anyway, I didn't want to figure out exactly what I misunderstood, but I think I swapped TD and Cabd and one point, which caused the confusion. If you absolutely insist, I'll try to find it for you, but I do think it's a waste of time.
8) His most recent post that wasn't "town rage" happened subsequent to the post in which you claimed that he possessed "independent thought".
9) Alright, but I thought you had him as "obv town". Again, I may be thinking that you said something about TP which was really about Cabd, and vice versa.
10) Alright, I can see that this is really bothering you. Here is how I remember it, but I might mix up details because I really didn't consider it that important. I was talking to f about reads on gchat. I read both of TP and Cabd as scum. I read a post in which you said one or both of them was obv town and I asked you about one of them. When I asked you about your reasoning for thinking that person was town, I thought we were talking about the other person, so when I went to ISO the person I was actually ISO'ing the other person. This should all be confirmable if you reread. It's better that you do it yourself because a) I don't want to and b) if I'm doing it, you're just going to think I selectively quote certain posts or something similar.
11) It's np. No, I don't think you'd do that even if you were scum. I was just annoyed with you and I have a big ego.
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