Balto the Invitational - Game Over

[BBmolla]

Still here just about

Don't know why Dan is so quick to accept Beethoven's claim. a) good thing one-shot roles are never scum-aligned b) why is it a stretch that scum might see Nuwen's claim and decide to also claim something one-shot, especially given Dan's backing up of her which intelligent scum (more intelligent than me, though, I'll admit) might have picked up on as potentially signifying him also being one-shot

Holy shit CDB you really are scum

[BBmolla]

isn't the correct way to crumb because

HITOSHRUG

But seriously, why would anyone ever crumb that way.

This is SUPER RELEVANT because Beethoven's wagon is the most unexpected thing to happen today. Based on the game's reads, did anyone think Beethoven would be a potential lynch candidate 3-4 days ago? No?

Then neither did he, therefore he didn't have time to prepare a claim with advance breadcrumbs.

As town, why would Beethoven lay suboptimal breadcrumbs if he didn't expect to be lynched, really?

^Scum as well

[Beethoven]

It read likea crossword puzzle clue in my head.

But whatever.

Just promise me you will backpedal away from this excellent case for me tomorrow.

[xRECKONERx]

Reckoner stop being so fucking bad wrt your conftown Grimm read. Nothing Grimm did was 100%loltown. Zdenek is going to coast to a win because you are too fucking proud to admit you are possibly wrong about something small as fuck.

Shut the fuck up.

I have literally never been wrong about Grimm in a mafia game on this forum.

Granted, most of those were because I was scum and he was town. But I've accurately read him when I've been town I want to say every time I've been town. The way he tries, the limits he's willing to push, all of that is indicative of his alignment in a way I can't really describe nor do I want to. He's town, so by that, Zdenek is town. He's a little off the trail, sure, but he's town.

You can grovel or something when this game's over and you're like "damn Reck was right". Or when you're dead shortly and head to the dead QT. If you're town, soz, but at least we confirm a townie with your lynch.

[Nuwen]

why would a town mind feel the need to crumb his result in an obscure way at that point in the game?

BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY TO DO IT THAT WASNT OBVIOUS AND IT FINALLY OCURRED TO ME ON THE SPOT.

I DONT KNOW

You also didn't breadcrumb targeting Gamma D1, which is the super-responsible play in the event your read is incorrect and you die. I know you're beeeetter than scrub mistakes like not accounting for being wrong.

[xRECKONERx]

Still here just about

Don't know why Dan is so quick to accept Beethoven's claim. a) good thing one-shot roles are never scum-aligned b) why is it a stretch that scum might see Nuwen's claim and decide to also claim something one-shot, especially given Dan's backing up of her which intelligent scum (more intelligent than me, though, I'll admit) might have picked up on as potentially signifying him also being one-shot

Holy shit CDB you really are scum

yeah he is

CES is too but fuck it if we're going to get a wagon going on either of them right now because CES has declared he's the only person who can read CDB and thus CDB cannot be lynched

[BBmolla]

Beethoven did you crumb that you were gonna target Gamma d1 or did you forget?

[ActionDan]

You also didn't breadcrumb targeting Gamma D1, which is the super-responsible play in the event your read is incorrect and you die. I know you're beeeetter than scrub mistakes like not accounting for being wrong.

actually I need to check this.

[Triforce]

ok dood. You're 1-shot. You want all the roleblocks. and the kills too

lol, this. If he used it, he's vanilla and can afford to draw NKs or be less discrete about breadcrumbing since he doesn't need to be around longer to use more actions.

[xRECKONERx]

how about actually check it instead of going HEY GUYS I NEED TO DO THIS THING it's just a waste of space

[BBmolla]

Even if Beethoven is scum, CDB is scum imo

btw casting what is probably my last vote of the day in 30

[Beethoven]

You also didn't breadcrumb targeting Gamma D1, which is the super-responsible play in the event your read is incorrect and you die

No, we didn't. Honestly the only thing I got on that is hydra dissonance. We hadn't really discussed who to target and Maestro was flaking and I kept thinking hed come back to talk about it but he didnt. But I wasnt saving my shot and I was reasonably certain Gamma was town and a likely NK choice after some reading but wanted to be sure.

[Beethoven]

FWIW, I even have meta about lying about Hider targets outright the Day before if you care.

[Gammagooey]

day 1 was basically a quicklynch on axxle

i was a hider in one of dram's ridiculous games and missed crumbing at least one night in there for probably worse reasons, and then died because i hid behind scum without crumbing it but they died the same night so I shrugged about it.

Gamma storiessss

[Nuwen]

I uh

Don't care about self-meta from people I'm calling scum.

But keeeeep going we might get material that appeals more to the general audience?

[BBmolla]

This is the gamestate when Beethoven's crumbs occurred. No one is voting for Beethoven. In his very next post, he supposedly creates his read list with a result crumb in a sub-optimal place - why would a town mind feel the need to crumb his result in an obscure way at that point in the game?

In case he got nk'd

[Beethoven]

Seriously.

[Beethoven]

Nuwen is scum or new levels of dumb. Fate is the opposite alignment.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Triforce

Feel free to whine for me to change while I go make waffles, this is hardly set in stone.

[ActionDan]

well your execution of that was poor. How would anyone know which of the 5 names you'd have targeted even if people got the intention. or does the question mark sell it.

Whatever. If there is nothing better at close to deadline I'll just vote you since I can't find a good explanation for these flubs.

[ActionDan]

also Triforce. either.

[Fate]

hey reck beethoven is trying to antagonize you because hes scum and he was setting up WIFOM for his flip.

Like

we lynch him and flip scum, his post where he says "LOL UR ALL GOING TO LOSE CUZ U THINK GRIMM IS TOWN" is just the sort of thing that SCREAMS "once they read this after I flip scum theyll be fucked"

Like

he couldnt anymore obvious

Molla you woke up to us winning the game, please participate

[Fate]

The fact that he didnt think of a N1 choice and breadcrumb it D1 in case he died (cause weak) is also super valid way to go Nuwen

[Beethoven]

I overcompensated on the inconspicuous bit. I thought my general tone towards him would make it obvious with obvious PoE and that.

I'd like everyone to realize how Fate is justifying my lynch with anything and everything because hes scum and doesnt give a shit.

[Beethoven]

Also the game, with prolly most/all PRs outed is nowhere near 'solved' so I dont think Fate believes that feelgood bullshit either.